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Jordan Montgomery's Market Has COLLAPSED! 

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Jordan Montgomery hit the market at, what should have been, the perfect time. BUT as the calendar flips to February he still doesn't have a team & the 2 teams that seem to bee a perfect fit might be out! If not Boston or Texas...then who?
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@twistedbowrs
@twistedbowrs 3 месяца назад
Not a great offseason for Boras clients huh. Chapman, Bellinger, Monty, and Snell all unsigned.
@Streez-00
@Streez-00 3 месяца назад
Going into February and these guys are unsigned these owners are uniting against Boras hah
@twistedbowrs
@twistedbowrs 3 месяца назад
@@Streez-00 some collusion I can get behind LOL
@steelcitysportsfan1436
@steelcitysportsfan1436 3 месяца назад
Chapman got signed by the pirates though
@BrianRMeo
@BrianRMeo 3 месяца назад
Lets be real, trying to brand Monty as an ace is a mistake, hes not an ace, he is a reliable 3 starter. The market obviously agrees
@alphaal1589
@alphaal1589 3 месяца назад
He can be a #1 in the postseason but during a regular season a top #2 scott borras hes trying to sell him like he is Cliff Lee or Cole Hamels
@BryanSmith-hs5nr
@BryanSmith-hs5nr 3 месяца назад
He isn't a true ace, but doesn't have to be as he's a solid #2 that can be "that guy" when it really counts in the post season. There aren't 60 starting pitchers better than him, and in fact he had the eighth lowest ERA among qualified starters in 2023. He doesn't throw as hard as some, but manages to get a lot of groundball outs, which are just as good and more economical than strikeouts. He can still miss bats, but that isn't the focus, and his durability is key. Those that throw harder often come with high risk of injury. The Cardinals were foolish to throw 40M at extending Mikolas when they had a top level starter already on their roster in Monty, who wanted to sign with them and might have actually given them a discount back then, but were too cheap to be interested in extending his services and didn't even bother approaching Boras about an extension. Boras has both Monty and Snell as clients, and is smart to try and milk teams for the most he can get, as the pitching market for high quality starting pitching is very thin. The most I would give him based on his age (31) is five years guaranteed.
@BrianRMeo
@BrianRMeo 3 месяца назад
@@BryanSmith-hs5nr Very well thought out, I feel like Monty has been consistent basically his whole career so far starting with the Yankees. He will give you a 3.3-4.0 ERA and durable innings, I just think they've been headlining him as a premier Ace which I disagree with. It makes me wonder what Boras believes he is worth, 5 years 120? What's a fair price?
@BrianRMeo
@BrianRMeo 3 месяца назад
@@alphaal1589 Do you think he has proven that? other than last year he only had 2 postseason appearances, but still he was really good for the Rangers so credit due there. I agree with you what Boras is doing, his value is at his highest its ever been right now but I just don't put him on the level of a Cole Hamels but that is a great comparison.
@1FMAlchemist
@1FMAlchemist 3 месяца назад
@@BrianRMeo Monty isn't worth more than peak Bumgarner who was paid less than 25 million a year. Anything more than 15 million a year is foolish in my eyes and no team should sign him for 5 years unless their farm is completely empty of starting pitching.
@BobE316
@BobE316 3 месяца назад
No way he's worth 170 million
@thescottishlion
@thescottishlion 3 месяца назад
Scott Boras is costing his clients money and preventing them from getting ready with their team to play.
@brandondeweil942
@brandondeweil942 3 месяца назад
Lol lol spoken like a dude never had one thought about being a player!!
@brandondeweil942
@brandondeweil942 3 месяца назад
Lol lol spoken like a dude never had one thought about being a player!!
@thescottishlion
@thescottishlion 3 месяца назад
@@brandondeweil942 I'm not the one sitting on my butt twittling my thumbs with no team and no paycheck while my agent is trying to get rich off of my success.
@thescottishlion
@thescottishlion 3 месяца назад
@@brandondeweil942 plus, none of Boras' clients are worth anywhere near what he is asking for.
@michaelrotter1134
@michaelrotter1134 4 месяца назад
We may see some Boras firings
@knowledgeuntamed9177
@knowledgeuntamed9177 3 месяца назад
1 can only hope 💯
@jayv7604
@jayv7604 3 месяца назад
I was wondering how Soto feels. He bought a home in beautiful Coronado last offseason. Wanted to be in SD by all indications, but now resides in NY. Boras and Soto would not sign an extension. I am sure the money will make him forget about that home.😊
@ronpartainxrp
@ronpartainxrp 3 месяца назад
That would be an amazing occurrence
@brandondeweil942
@brandondeweil942 3 месяца назад
I'd own a home in Coronado, no matter where I played!!
@jessepatterson8823
@jessepatterson8823 3 месяца назад
Boras is keeping these players from being with a team. Its sad. Cody, Jordan, Blake all dont have a team because he wants top dollar for his players aka himself. And spring training starts in 2 weeks.
@stevewright2241
@stevewright2241 3 месяца назад
Boras got burned last year with Bellinger.
@pebmets
@pebmets 3 месяца назад
The top players who do not have contracts are Scott Boras clients, including Montgomery. Boras has alienated so many owners, and the clubs who have money are not willing to overpay for his clients.
@robertaBooey69
@robertaBooey69 3 месяца назад
That is said every year by people of boras yet he finds a way to get deals done
@realisticthought1781
@realisticthought1781 3 месяца назад
You see Atlanta doesn’t like him
@David..
@David.. 3 месяца назад
I think it’s just that this FA market is extremely weak. I don’t think Boras would be this aggressive with these clients if there were any FAs without warts on the market. Might seem deleterious but if a team gets an injury or wants to push themselves over the edge with other signings I could easily see someone panicking and overpaying for the pitchers. As far as alienating teams? Nah that’s mostly piffle for people on call in shows , he’s not playing the games and he’s got great clients, you’re not going to not sign a guy like Soto because you don’t like his agent doing his job.
@markgoff3367
@markgoff3367 3 месяца назад
Time for owners to quit overpaying! You can only inflate a baloon so much before it burst. Owners also have to work within a budget to make a profit.
@Standdividedfalltogether
@Standdividedfalltogether 3 месяца назад
These pitchers saw Yamo market and are acting like they got hit right in the head with the bag he got! 😂
@snake7956
@snake7956 3 месяца назад
The Cardinals still need Monty. He would slot in very nicely right behind Gray. Move Matz to long relief, which he’s done well with in the past. Their rotation would look so much better. 165/7.
@x3mo2
@x3mo2 3 месяца назад
Dodgers will offer a 2 year 70 million deal.
@kotch35
@kotch35 3 месяца назад
The RSN issues have crippled the market this year for top FA's. Montgomery (as well as Snell and Bellinger) should just go for high dollar 1 year deals at this point and hit the market again next year when the RSN picture should be clear and more teams are willing to spend.
@LinkRocks
@LinkRocks 3 месяца назад
Money isn't the issue, every owner has plenty of money to afford whomever they want. No one wants to give Monty $25 mil a year.
@jsl964
@jsl964 3 месяца назад
ITS THE BALLYS SPORTS DEAL
@petergarcia6645
@petergarcia6645 3 месяца назад
The Red Sox should offer him 3 yrs at 25 mill that won't ruin the plan to wait for the prospects
@robertaBooey69
@robertaBooey69 3 месяца назад
The pitchers out there are not Yamamoto age 25. They are over 30 and want 7 year desks which is never going to work. Snell is delusional wanting 210 over 7. Monty wants 7/180. You might get 3-4 years out of them .
@samuellloyd6005
@samuellloyd6005 3 месяца назад
Cardinals might get in if his price dips
@pancakejonzze
@pancakejonzze 3 месяца назад
learning that working hard doesn't pay off like i thought it would, SF analysis spot on
@rakenbake3482
@rakenbake3482 3 месяца назад
With the sale of Baltimore, Montgomery seems like a safe/smart move for new owners
@dennishaas4745
@dennishaas4745 3 месяца назад
I agree, I say Boras knew this sale was coming and has held off.
@jonathanfrimerman8855
@jonathanfrimerman8855 3 месяца назад
Orioles about to get both blake snell and jordan montgomery
@foghatrocks
@foghatrocks 3 месяца назад
I wish the Yankees would never have let him go.
@backspace120
@backspace120 3 месяца назад
He wasn't that good. When he was there. He lucked up with the Rangers. And now asking for way to much money. Him and Snell.
@Jay_nicola
@Jay_nicola 3 месяца назад
@@backspace120he was solid with Yankees
@backspace120
@backspace120 3 месяца назад
@@Jay_nicola If he was any good he would still be there. Because they didn't need Bader. Plus what they got in return was just ok. Traded twice in one season. Says a lot. Same with the Cards. He's not worth the asking price.
@thexnewyorker7284
@thexnewyorker7284 3 месяца назад
Never got any run support with the yanks . He was a good #3 .
@guard099
@guard099 3 месяца назад
He sucked in NY..still isnt worth the money he wants
@knowledgeuntamed9177
@knowledgeuntamed9177 3 месяца назад
When the Ask comes back down to 175mil teams will jump back in. Yankees offered 150mil per reports. He was the 4th guy in Rangers rotation so idk that they can afford his ask. He will get 150-175mil so i don't think his market is bad at all
@SuperJay12jay
@SuperJay12jay 3 месяца назад
Monty doesn't deserve more than Senga's 15m per. 11M per is fair for back of the rotation dude.
@teslabulls1238
@teslabulls1238 3 месяца назад
I just remember the disappointing pitcher when he was a Yankee. For me 1 great year does not erase all of those other years.
@meddyven
@meddyven 3 месяца назад
Some team may come in and scoop him up on a 3/4 year deal, the closer it gets to reporting date for pitchers and catchers. Pitchers don't like their routines messed up. Having Boras as an agent, is a major mistake. And with him having both Montgonery and Snell both unsigned, is going to drive their price down.
@DerekDominoes
@DerekDominoes 3 месяца назад
But hey, the A's would give him an empty can of soup to pitch for them!
@jaybarr8098
@jaybarr8098 3 месяца назад
While I think Montgomery pitched very well the last few years I don’t see where he earned the kind of money he’s expecting. Two years isn’t enough of a timeline for a mega contract. 100 for five years sounds right.
@Jay_nicola
@Jay_nicola 3 месяца назад
Yamamoto got 325 and never has thrown a pitch
@seanwhipple7839
@seanwhipple7839 3 месяца назад
With the breaking news of Angelos selling the orioles do you think they might make a push for Montgomery
@1FMAlchemist
@1FMAlchemist 3 месяца назад
I'd rather see the Orioles sign Snell, someone with a better track record and higher upside.
@orangehoof
@orangehoof 3 месяца назад
Good content, Jim. I'm trying to figure out how the Astros can take advantage of the situation. You must consider: Verlander is almost surely done in 1-2 years, Valdez seems to never quite earn Houston's commitment. McCullers is a waste of $17 million. But for 2024, imagine a rotation of Verlander, Valdez, Javier and Montgomery plus #5 (Brown? Urquidy? France?). If they can keep below the second level of the luxury cap with a Montgomery contract, they've both hurt the Rangers and helped themselves.
@edgargalicia4851
@edgargalicia4851 3 месяца назад
The problem with free agency this year is that everyone thought the Mets we’re going to be active ( desperate ) on every front but that hasn’t been the case even if the player doesn’t want to be in the organization, they can still use the Mets money as leverage.
@johncrabtree8857
@johncrabtree8857 3 месяца назад
I hope he's just waiting for the rangers to get their financial situation fixed unless he's just asking for too much
@GodSaves777
@GodSaves777 4 месяца назад
That cease trade from the mariners not happening now.
@stormchaserjoe2842
@stormchaserjoe2842 3 месяца назад
it was never happening
@johncrabtree8857
@johncrabtree8857 3 месяца назад
It's to the mariners not from the mariners
@johnjacobs7283
@johnjacobs7283 3 месяца назад
Wouldn’t he look great in the Cubs rotation with Cade Horton getting the bump by mid season?
@Standdividedfalltogether
@Standdividedfalltogether 3 месяца назад
5/125 tops
@gorbombs16
@gorbombs16 4 месяца назад
Come back to the cardinals
@DodgrRon
@DodgrRon 3 месяца назад
Maybe because Texas already knows they are getting Kershaw possibly??
@ramongonzalez6653
@ramongonzalez6653 3 месяца назад
Yeah Yankees wanted to work out a contract and Jordan scoffed the Yankees!
@williamquemuel7824
@williamquemuel7824 3 месяца назад
Two teams mentioned are having RSN troubles (Angels and Twins).
@Jennifer-ix4io
@Jennifer-ix4io 3 месяца назад
Bring him back to THE BIRDS ON THE BAT
@Legnerps
@Legnerps 3 месяца назад
I bet Monty would take the 150 mill the Yanks offered Snell.
@pdraggy
@pdraggy 3 месяца назад
Whoever gets him is gonna get one pissed off pitcher... and that's usually a good thing.
@tommcconville677
@tommcconville677 3 месяца назад
He should come back to the Yankees and he'll be one of the best no. 3 starters in the league.
@corsovene
@corsovene 3 месяца назад
Yankees , adding Juan Soto to bolster offense, could see Jordan Montgomery as a good option to get much needed Healthy talent on their pitching staff (plenty of talent there now, but not so healthy). These additions, a healthy Aaron Judge, could get Yankees back on top team in the AL East and help make them contenders for the World Series crown.
@thedimarcoguy
@thedimarcoguy 3 месяца назад
I think the giants will bid for him.
@pdraggy
@pdraggy 3 месяца назад
The Rangers have Tyler Mahle to hold them over till degrom and scherzer are ready to go btw
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 3 месяца назад
players getting paid doesnt make players important or great and never has. biggest contract ever. doesnt really make anyone important or special. if that player is mediocre during his contract fat contracts were rather stupid
@robwasilewski9273
@robwasilewski9273 3 месяца назад
Texas still has 2 beast pitchers with mad max missing a little time. The Red Sox need to grow up and join the major league and spend some
@user-ue4bw8fl7w
@user-ue4bw8fl7w 3 месяца назад
Cardinals!
@cujocujo4942
@cujocujo4942 3 месяца назад
JM is not an ace. That is a stretch. If he were on the Brewers, he'd be the third starter. Which would be a great landing spot for him on a 2-3 year deal.
@JohnWeichel
@JohnWeichel 3 месяца назад
Toronto bule Jays
@CooJoe05
@CooJoe05 3 месяца назад
The ASTROS should now steal Jordan Montgomery
@teachersama
@teachersama 3 месяца назад
Boras trying to sell him as a Cy Young winner... he's a good 3rd starter with proven playoffs value IF your team makes it that far... that's it... the market have let him know and I believe te very same Montgomery must be feeling terrible.
@stephenconnell2689
@stephenconnell2689 3 месяца назад
I figured he would be signed by the Rangers immediately. The Red Sox need him and my team the Cardinals would be a real playoff team with Montgomery and Gray. Neither team will go all in. With Goldschmidt and Arenado, we have a window that can't wait for Tink Hence.
@Whydidyoun0tturnback
@Whydidyoun0tturnback 3 месяца назад
The fact you didn't even mention the Yankees into the conversation is a crime. While I know the beef between the yanks and monty, this doesn't dismiss a mention. Lets be honest the Angels are a joke, The Twins are probably done with having a successful offseason and have enough to work at trade deadlines. Giants... you got me there.
@kevinkucera5338
@kevinkucera5338 3 месяца назад
The Cubs need to sign Motgomery for the same deal Nola got. He is a better investment than Bellinger. Next, the Cubs need Chapman for 3/75 perhaps an option for a 4th year. He won't block Shaw. Shaw can be a very good 2b. Horner would be a great trade chip after the 24 season. Cubs have great OF and 1b prospects. Bye bye Belli.......
@jacksorensen506
@jacksorensen506 3 месяца назад
I don’t know why but I see him as a Met
@kingyellowman5762
@kingyellowman5762 3 месяца назад
You're saying he's a loser?
@deliriousarmy3940
@deliriousarmy3940 3 месяца назад
His agent has priced him out of the market. Same with Snell 9yrs 30m per. Fire Boras now.
@dougjohnson3737
@dougjohnson3737 3 месяца назад
Phillies need to sign Montgomery asap and push the chips all in! Go win a ws
@snuffyballparks6501
@snuffyballparks6501 3 месяца назад
I like Silseth. Proven... no way... but needs the chance.
@greg5775
@greg5775 3 месяца назад
I feel that wherever Montgomery signs, that team is going to get burned. 5/125 is what he should get, and be grateful for that. Hopefully, that small amount would get him through the rest of his life. I just love how these players forget where they came from.
@brandondeweil942
@brandondeweil942 3 месяца назад
All teams, can afford $250 payroll, your pushing the corporate cart, they profit, off the community!! And screw players, fans.... Only a handful of teams are worth committing to as a fan, nearly all have something about them that's insufferable. SF will be done by the time Ray returns. Hicks no starter!
@williamabaker12
@williamabaker12 3 месяца назад
He's only an ace on a team with a bunch of #3's. Good, serviceable pitcher, but an ace? Nah
@samuellloyd6005
@samuellloyd6005 3 месяца назад
How about 5 for 125
@morcatna4767
@morcatna4767 3 месяца назад
Sweet now Giants can get him 😂
@1FMAlchemist
@1FMAlchemist 3 месяца назад
Giants won't bid until he cuts his asking price in half or is willing to take a high AAV for a short term deal.
@paulfong1362
@paulfong1362 3 месяца назад
5/125 would be good if we can get it
@1FMAlchemist
@1FMAlchemist 3 месяца назад
@@paulfong1362 for a guy who was a no.4 starter a year ago? Pass. I’d rather save money for Burnes and Buhler.
@cdawg3
@cdawg3 3 месяца назад
He will be a redsox pitcher by next week IMO. I just don’t think he is an ace!
@montanadennis9021
@montanadennis9021 3 месяца назад
If his market crashes I hope the Cardinals swoop in and bring him back 😭
@steelcitysportsfan1436
@steelcitysportsfan1436 3 месяца назад
The pirates are an option
@meddyven
@meddyven 3 месяца назад
If the Pirates signed him, it would have to be alot of deferred money.
@5papa
@5papa 3 месяца назад
Montgomery is a decent pitcher but he’s not worth a huge contract. He’s not in the top echelon.
@riggins5028
@riggins5028 3 месяца назад
I hope the Orioles sign him
@rowan6582
@rowan6582 3 месяца назад
Kevin gausman most underpaid pitcher
@kr6955
@kr6955 3 месяца назад
Boras again over bet his hands
@deakosteal
@deakosteal 3 месяца назад
This is weird
@hiramnoone
@hiramnoone 3 месяца назад
Monty is good, but simply not *that* good.
@figmillenium
@figmillenium 3 месяца назад
Excellent analysis, #jimriley! #gostros
@LinkRocks
@LinkRocks 3 месяца назад
He wants too much money.
@jeremyhopwood5822
@jeremyhopwood5822 3 месяца назад
Giants still don't have a Super star hitter when the Dodgers will have 6 Great hitters!!!!
@jjjilani9634
@jjjilani9634 3 месяца назад
Jim, Jordan Montgomery's market did not collapse, it simply wasn't there to begin with. You content creators hyped him. Montgomery is a bonafide long reliever, always has been.
@Jay_nicola
@Jay_nicola 3 месяца назад
He’s not an ace by any means , but to say he’s a long relief guy is just flat out stupid
@donjohnson504
@donjohnson504 3 месяца назад
Sure ! Astros & Dodgers scamming the game.
@1FMAlchemist
@1FMAlchemist 3 месяца назад
Would Montgomery help the Giants rotation? Sure. Would he be a long-term benefit? Possibly. Would he help the Giants compete for the division- absolutely not. Jim this discussion with my Giants is a joke. We have too many holes to compete with the Dodgers this year. I wish you and Robbie would honestly stop trying to promote that the likes of Snell, Bellinger, Chapman, and now Montgomery for the Giants. They would not make the Giants competitive. This is gaslighting.
@brandondeweil942
@brandondeweil942 3 месяца назад
Because monty, won't work free for your team? What a homer!!! Dude your like a child
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