Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin | Live in Sydney 

Dimensions of contribution or matrix of strenght and weaknesses of the west from Greece/Rome until today. The matrix of other great cultures and their contributions to the world looks very different. The matrix shows clearly the strenghts and what the west gave to the world but also where it's weaknesses are. I Material plane Economy 8/10 Technology 10/10 Health 7/10 Security 8/10 33/40 = 8,25/10 HIGH II Mental plane Ethics 6/10 Science 9/10 Philosophy 6/10 Social Order 7/10 25/40 = 6,25/10 High area of MEDIUM III Emotional plane Friendship 5/10 Love 4/10 Community 2/10 Spirituality 2/10 13/40 = 3,25/10 High area of LOW These Matrix shows why the west dominates the current material world, but also why severe transgressions against other world cultural spheres happened and most importantly the current trend of self destruction, the erosion of social life which destroys social cohersion but also leads to conflict with other nations in an attitude of greed and forcefully domination. If the issues in the last two sub planes of emotional aren't solved quickly the west is doomed from total collapse until transhumanist Dictatorship. Solutions already unfolding ppl search in cultures like south east Asia (7/10) and India subcontinent (9/10) for spirituality. But also medium plane like Philosophy where south east Asia has 8/10. Community as the second total weakness ppl look for indigenous or tribal structures also some look I the past of the west with better times like the Polis of Athens which at the same time would stabilize the social order of which gov and democracy is a part of. The subaspects of the three main planes are in strong feedback to each other so the catastrophic degeneration of spirituality effects community the most followed by love. Friendship is balanced due the strenght in the material plane which requires a high degree of cooperation. If the main planes are out of balance the most talented ppl leave, especially the weakness in emotional plane forces ppl which would otherwise never leave to go to get their emotional needs met in countries who might are weaker in the other planes but offer enormous improvement in the emotional plane. Best examples are the passport Bro movement leading to transfer of money and skill to non western countries with a high value of the emotional plane. The other way around millions of ppl want into the west and so succeeding into the millions that task to liberate themselves of a degree of poverty we can't imagine. The tremendous strenght of our material plane pulls millions toward the west at the same time social order of the west is overburdened and the heavy weakness of the emotional plane already led to the remigration of some of this ppl. In Summary the west produced great things for itself and the world especially from 1600 until 1950 but since the new Millenial the weaknesses in the emotional amplyfied to a degree that the stability of the whole system west is endangered by impairing also the other two main planes leaving the west prone to insurrection, civil war and revolution. Peterson is one of the great intellectuals of our time who sheds light at great partially glorious parts but also on the sickness the cancer which spreads in the west. But things aren't over with the right diagnostics like this matrix which is just the upper not so detailed part ppl can get conscious what strenghts we still have and how weaknesses can be improved and from which cultures or nations we can learn. I the best case a great markets of ideas of solutions in which every nation of the world attends whole humanity will improve. Addition: Depending on the subjective view ppl will disagree with some subaspects of the planes and as a open model not all components of the subaspects are statically defined.

His perception is insane

Probably also partly because he's waiting for the "got ya" jounos tends to spring on him. It's pretty shameful... He's a brilliant man!

You cannot get good public policy unless the debaters are honest men of good will (the Founding Fathers). If too many are corrupt you get the French Revolution or the Mueller investigation.

@Elena I want to say true, but in the grand scheme of things Germany isn't doing too badly.

@Elena Germany gets cultural cucked by Hollywood since ww2, which helps to transform our Homeland into a socialist ecologically Murica.

Ian Fitchett then the structure fails with the content

@@michaelmuller8072 its because you voted for an east german. Pure and simple. You opened your border to them, and then they stormed your Reichstag and took it without a fight. You thought you were letting them join you, but they know they won. West germans forgot why you had a wall in the first place.

Just a full online course would be a great start!

It's happpening already

Does anyone know what's the hold-up? Is it money? Like, why isn't this a publicly known start-up already? Doesn't have to be perfect, just needs to be a start!¨ Looks like with some basic "marketing" people would contribute time and money heavily in it's development, no need for Jordan & team to do it on their own on an extremely low budget ^^ Any thoughts?

@@elektrotehnik94 he does have a personality course available through his website

@@Seaby41 I know, but that’s a series of videos, not a framework for creating a depository of university-quality courses & supporting structures

Amen to that!

Unless you're studying at Harvard or University of Toronto.

You could get a library card.

In the same way that watching sport is not the same as playing sport, simply reading quality, informed material is not the same as practicing the usage of it in real time. The reason these men have such elucidated understandings is that not only have they read material which presents novel and intriguing arguments in a manner which most had not previously encountered it, they also furthered that literate tradition by communicating their understanding of it to others, and listening to the feedback they were offered in return. If you want to emulate this, I strongly encourage you to seek out people who have read many books in the field you are interested in, and, firstly, ask their opinions on certain specific points in the field, but, very importantly, to also offer your own opinions, and allow their response to inform your understanding further. You can't understand capitalism if you only speak to Communists or economists, you must also speak to historians and military men, business owners and community leaders, even mathematicians have insight to offer on topics totally unrelated on the surface. "The unexamined life is not worth living." -Socrates The reason truly intelligent people are humble is because they understand the road to enlightenment is to recognize their limitations when entering new intellectual territory. As well that humility conveys a respect to one's conversation partner that implores them to place very serious consideration on how they present their words.

​@@BenjiQ575 great insight! it's like an idea really only becomes yours when you've put into practice (via action or relevant conversation) and modulated it in the process. i think real-time face-to-face discussion is best for this, as it forces you to dance with the framework then and there, and receive immediate feedback on delivery, clarity, etc. unfortunately, regarding anything political (or religious/spiritual), it's difficult to find discussion that won't quickly devolve into amygdala-activated argument. which sucks, because those are among the most important topics one can discuss, imo.

Seriously. Dr Peterson’s words allow people to realize that their suffering has meanings so we can justify our existence.

Stop crying. Keep trying. You'll get there.

I THINK KNOWING WHY WE ARE ON THIS EARTH AND HAVING INDIVIDUAL MINDS, REALISING THERE ARE THINGS US HUMANS CANNOT CONTROL..IS REACHING A POTENTIAL MOST NEVER GET TO..DONT LET OTHERS MAKE YOU FEEL YOU FALL SHORT..NONE OF US ARE PERFECT..

It is one of humanity's greatest joys to actually have individual responsibility. As Aristotle once said "The greatest and noblest victory one can achieve is when one conquers himself". We might need encouragement and motivation but discipline requires raw will power. I believe we all have the capacity to reach our full potential, after all it is in our nature. So, Ethanidas, keep striving for your full potential, keep believing in yourself.

If only this type of teaching could be taught in schools today. I have learned so much from this and other interviews by Jordon Peterson. Glad to know and hear Mr Anderson. He is great!

Eat your heart out, Deepak.

@@tylerg.2924 no shit. It's taken pit of context. Watch the video idiot

I actually have to disagree with this comment. I think it is bravery because it meets the definition of the word. Bravery is defined as doing the right thing regardless of the consequences. When Jordan Peterson Spoke out against bill C16 in Canada he knew the hate and push back he would receive as a result and chose to do it anyway. The same thing with these lectures and his books. Despite the people in power trying to destroy his name and reputation he continues to do so because he thinks he is doing what is right. The definition of a Coward is the exact opposite definition. it is defined as to refuse to do the right thing for fear of the consequences. Just like the kid who lied in his example because he didn't want to get into trouble. He refused to do the right thing (tell the truth) out of fear for the Consequences (getting in trouble). That would make such action a cowardly act according to the definition. I think the same thing about Dave Rubin. He has laid out the consequences he faces for speaking out. How he is not invited to speak about left wing topics he may be in favor of and how he is completely dismissed in many of the circles he once felt like he belonged to. Yet he continues to speak what he sees as the truth despite all that. That is bravery pure and simple. Not according to my opinion, but according to the actual definition of the word.

He is slowly edging toward The Truth.

Same feeling!

Ashrune jelous regards from the social experiment called Sweden

Unless u are trying to comment on political corruption in comment boards

@Ernestine it’s a complex situation but in short terms: Sweden sets a very sad example of how liberal socialism, strong individualism and thru the school system pushed on intersectionalism decades of well being can go terribly wrong. It’s just a become a big mess of virtue signaling politicians hand in hand with government controlled media (so called public service) doing everything they can to keep their leftie narrative getting fully funded by taxes, leaves out the real problems in our society, focus on niceties. Thankfully people finally starts to wake up, questioning the rooted system. But sadly the vast majority still leans back (until it hits their own wallets) This country is very divided with a very weak left leadership, and sadly the opposition is almost as bad. In short

It's called passion

You totally said that perfectly. Thanks!

@@Blood0cean I was going to say passionate too. I have seen times where he has almost cried in an interview as he discusses something he feels deeply passionate about. This demonstrates to me he does not do this because he likes attention, he does it because he sees a true value in the effect it has on people.

Great post. I would just like to interject the word 'still' between the words 'and' and 'believes'. :-)

I'd also observe that the tinge of teenage angst also explains his resonance with a huge swath of his audience.

On ya.

@@dartanion0075 What?

RenzoM it’s Aussie slang for “good on you” i.e. keep up the good work

A couple atheists.

What is a soft filter in this context?

he's literally the most boring person in the world.

@@waynewalkerorg So boring that you're here on the youtube comment page for a 1 and a half hour video interview with the guy.

@@waynewalkerorg that's your opinion and I appreciate you sharing it with us. I think HE is boring, but the IDEAS he talks about are some of the most interesting in the world.

Not only is JBP the most boring person in the world. It's a damn good thing that he his.

@@waynewalkerorg No he's figuratively the most boring person in the world. The literal most boring people are in a coma. :)

Goran A. It’s a truly oppressed channel 😆

Whats up with him?

The sovereignty of a genepool

@@NwoDispatcher Whats up with you?

He made a video with his daughter I just watched. He has been to hell and back

@@rufanuf1 my mind has been liberated. If race mixing is okay, raace matching is okay.

Tadeu, He is not a spark he is a dark sanctimonious character.

@@medovaca The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it.

@@rovidius2006 , It can, the light can never escape from Jordan's black hole.

Yeah I really wish him a full recovery. He said he has had mostly positive comments about his situation and has a good support system but he really has been through hell. He's working on a 3rd book now too I heard so I really wish him the best.

@@medovaca I love Jordan what's your problem?

As I scrolled past your comment, my brain read "bacon of hope."

I did the same thing. Its funny how Wilson was criticizing Peterson for not having a chapter about respect while intentionally misconstruing Peterson's points and attempting "gotcha" methods. What a stark difference between the interviewers. True respect.

@@m1ste2tea I lost it when Mr. Wilson asked Dr. Peterson why he seemed "Angry?" Of course Dr. Peterson's retort was brilliant. "People come up to me multiple times a day telling me how they've turned themselves around and are taking responsibility for their lives because of my work, would that make You angry?"

I think Wilson was just jealous of a highly intelligent man. (and honest).

@@Marzy5821 very much so, you have honesty and humility on one end, and just projection of insecurities on the other. I honestly dont know much about Wilson, dont care to watch more of him after that intwrview. I however subscribed to this one.

TJ Manou the next step is to become more like him yourself. 👍

@@miriistina what makes you think I'm not.

TJ Manou I never implied you weren’t. It’s the next step for all of us. Good on you for doing so

Hit that SHARE button Brendan.

Jordan is a snake protect Australia

@@bosspanda123 Even if he was you have missed the key point he made about how trust works which pretty much proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.

@@DanielSMatthews lol Jordan Peterson has proven himself to be untrustworthy. Listening to a snake talk about trust is like a wolf hiding in sheep's clothing ! Protect Australia don't buy the snake oil.

@@bosspanda123 Next time actually address the points I have made and then you will not come across as looking like a monomaniacal moron. Care to try again? This time don't try and deflect from the fact that you actually know very little about the guy and even less about what he said, in fact you haven't even watched the video have you?

Ha ha ha :)

This is one of the best. Of Jordan Peterson i have seen

@Tiktaalik what is your point? You think it was a plus then? and why is it that me enjoying the message of Jordan makes me a zombie following a leader? He makes sense, even if he sometimes is a bit long winded, and talks a bit of bollocks every once in a while. It's fucked up if you agree with someone on everything he says, it is impossible without being a weak-willed shell of a human being.

@Tiktaalik you really start with berating him on a slip of the tongue? weak sauce, dude. The main reason Jordan Peterson is so popular, is that he encourages people to take responsibility over their own life, in stead of blaming everyone else and being a victim. THAT is his whole point, and if you disagree with the value of something like that, I deeply pity you, and we will never see eye to eye, since our basic worldview is irreconcilable. Also, why spell someone's name wrong? it's not a 'clever' play with words, which just makes you look like a dick...

​@Tiktaalik You talk absolute bull. you have no intention of understanding him, so explaining to you is absolutely useless. You have NO idea what you are talking about, parroting your leftist bubble journalists. You go ahead and live in your asinine bubble and I keep listening to this incredibly useful man.

Lepermessiyah probably because he was allowed to talk without leftists interrupting trying for a gotcha moment!!

I didnt know who John anderson was until i saw this. Hes definitely gonna grow more because of peterson

100% agree this is one of the best interviews yet. I have been looking for something to show people about Jordan Peterson, and this might make the cut.

As a fan of JBP I've just come across this channel. It's going to become more popular in the future.

Fully Agree!!! Because the host isn't a leftist journalist... Jordon got too unleash his brilliance....

Jonathon Frazier I’ll never understand why Dave Rubin is held at such high regard as people like Dr Jordan Peterson. What’s he doing there again?🤔

Cartoon Master eh, if he wants to come along for the ride, let him. Peterson doesn't seem aggravated with his presense so I guess he not hurting anything.

@@luyolomify The internet is like a road as much as it is a web of interconnections. If you don't have the bridges over the obstacles you encounter, you'll never get where you are going. Dave Rubin will bring people that have never heard of Peterson or Anderson to this channel. He is the bridge to span the road to reach this destination for those that don't know any other way.

​@@luyolomify He's the opener for his shows, and shares Peterson's views.

@@luyolomify He's just a generally likeable and fair-minded person who lightens the mood some, in my opinion.

good lord that man was awful to listen to. if that interviewer was their best... well i don't know how they're going to deal with it

Same. It was cringe worthy.

link?

@@earlnoli ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wPSdj7QqkKU.html

It's good to get different perspectives. Even when they are painful

The bad interviewers make him take up all his time defending himself, a subtle form of deplatforming. They don't WANT him to shine.

@@pn5721 The more he shines, the duller they look.

Jordan's fingernail clippings are more intelligent than all the lefties and haters......

my grandparents worked 18 hr. a day both of them i was there . past 65 but did drive a new car . i worked 8 to 11 hr. a day a drive a new car. A new 1993 car is no 2018 car These are the good old days now. sure you can mope around long face but it's not a good thing the car example is not good but i could not think of example

Depression is in on an all time high in the west. I'd rather work hard and not have many options instead of depression. Maybe thats just me though.

Baby boomers...The Greatest Generation

mccarthew : Diet. Processed food.

You don't need these people you have to be the one, you all have to see things from a deeper perspective rather than the symptom a logical one that these people come from you have to look at deeper root causes for social ills oh, you must understand that misery is derived from two components that are exacerbated by the elites and the bureaucrats, hence the misery index, unemployment rate and rate of inflation. There's so much you need to understand instead of listening to these Talking Heads learn about deeper deeper deeper social ills and their remedy oh, that is economically freedom and they returned just sound money oh, this will ensure that the people will not remain debt slaves having to bail out the big corporations time and time again because just like in the past with big corporations like VW Audi Volkswagen BMW and Leslie were able to coerce government to use people as slaves this is going to return oh, this is going to repeat itself oh, they were the beneficiaries of all the taxpayer bailouts in 08 while all those people lost their homes, no the way this world operates or you're simply just follower Enchanted by your new modern Jesus whoever else you got there, wake up on a whole complete different level

Tony Silva What? You might have something interesting there, but could you rewrite that with punctuation and actual flow of thoughts?

StorminATube These ruminations are like Septimus Signus’ work.

@@tonysilva2060 tldr plz

in one movie, actor Tom Berenger once said : "Freedom isn't Free.." (just saying...)

JP did a Q&A in Austrialia either just before or after this show and each person was given only 1 minite to speak on the topic asked of them. that might be more up your alley but imo these questions deserve long form answers

Only one hour? That's never going to be enough!

russianbot#78564 Still better than the media's fascination of sound bites.

And we still sit there and listen... 1 2 3 hours later :)

what the hell

Rubin is a pinhead.

@@ally11488 Thank you for your very intellectual comment

@@kdemetter I'm happy to qualify the pejorative.

@Mishka Leigh Why is Rubin a pinhead? He holds inconsistent views because his main motivation is money. He's all for the 'market place of ideas', but appears on promotional clips supporting a proto-fascist like Bolsonaro - someone who would happily kill gays and transgender people. He feels the left doesn't want to debate, but is running scared of Sam Seder. He feels free speech is important, but is on record as saying Seder called him an idiot, so he won't debate him. David Packman was accused by him of having a 'mental illness', but it didn't hurt his feelings and stop Packman annihilating him in their debate. Yes, Rubin is a pinhead, and charlatan to boot.

@Mishka Leigh - You do know how the 'world wide' web works?

piggyback your comment. needs to be mentioned the fascist social media. who hid this from me. This is american2019. I gfot it now, after wathing another video. Fight facism, fith sillygay valley of goebblesville.

Thx bub

@resigned liberal I completely agree. It's not what you say, it how you say it. Articulation is first and foremost, an art. Almost like music. He does this extremely well. What are grandparents lived by, their outlook on life, extreme ownership and the ubiquitous shift away from responsibility that the present generation exercises daily has been a repeatable theme

What a deep,intelligent and moral man! So glad I can listen to him.I have became a better person l

Agreed.The sort of guy you can look at and just know you like him

Me too i am Muslim he made become a better muslims i started praying

Why don't you start by cleaning your room, bucko?

@@lisasamz8282 Dedication to prayer is one of the few things I respect / admire about Islam. It's all the other stuff- Murdering gays, women as property, murdering apostates, treating infidels as "dhimmis", and respecting a warlord & child-rapist that makes me not respect Islam.

My room gets cleaned everyday.

I learned that true wisdom can't be achieved without patience and humbleness.

Well spotted my friend. Great moment

As a naturally "unempathic and cold" engineering student, i enjoy it how subjective most human beings are. You like both of these men, as human beings and as speakers, and probably in other ways as well. Thus, your mind twists your observations into the most positive manifestation form of the phenomenon you're watching, in this case a laugh. You do realize he could just be putting on an act because there's several dozen of pairs of eyes on him at any given moment, and it looks good.

@@genericusername8337 I could not care less for your response.

@@D4n1t0o Heh. Yet you responded. And i still think you're drawing more conclusions than the given situation allows you to. Jordan and Dave are but men, not some prophets. Just keep that in mind the next time you're fantasizing about them in any context.

@@genericusername8337 You get the attention I spare whilst on the toilet. Grow up, toddler.

Yeah, cos no one in developing and poorer countries have access to cheap phones. Duh! One of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.

@@estebancomulet I had completely forgotten about this comment. I agree with you. It's a dumb argument. I was being sarcastic and wanted to see if I would get any likes or comments.

@@pohobek7788 Lol, nice one. I fell for it. But it's staggering how many people fall for his schtick. A bona fide intellectual dwarf.

@Alan J If people have smartphones it says nothing about the society they live in. People in China and Saudi Arabia have smartphones. And even if for example the US should turn into some left or right wing authoritarianism in the near future, American citizens would most likely get to keep their phones

@@estebancomulet Agree