Jordan Peterson ~ What Interests You Is Involuntary 

I think exciting the body excites the mind (not to be read sexually).

Frantazo I once saw a book on amazon entitled “how to speak Italian,” or something like that. The theme of the reviews was that most of Italian language is in fact hand gestures.

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It's like writing something down helps you remember. More general, using multiple stimuli makes the memory being stored on a larger scale. The hand gestures seems to help retrieving the relevant memory.

That bit got my attention as well. ”The things you don’t know give birth to the things you know”. Will definitely be reciting that in opportune moments.

Yang gang

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Agreed!

Yes! I'd say it's worth watching his lecture all the way through. Bother personality and maps of meaning. Did a lot of good for me!

Hey, great job. I'm hoping you do better for yourself and others. And you're so kind too. 😊

Really nice

@@jenaprithviraj0433 thank you, I've been following my own advice for once and I feel happier going back to school and organizing my time. Now I'm just waiting on the first battery of exam grades to see if they helped!

@@zk9494 hey, it's so much pleasure hearing that from you. It is really praise worthy that you are trying to make it better. I had followed these advices myself too and they have proven so very positive. Trust me, the results matter much less to me now. The positivity and confidence it brings to us is all that matters. I pray you remain hopeful and help the ones around you. And who did ever need a grade to live a happy life. (well it's important but our soul is the most precious). Cheers, dear. 😊

@@jenaprithviraj0433 in regards to the grades very true, they only exist so I can continue in the program. rather than worry about passing I have been transitioning to go full force and show that I can fulfill promises to myself and do better bc I willed myself to. The grades are just trackable evidence. Hearing lectures like these when I struggle to start my days before 7 am really help. Every week feels like a month but I have a feeling it's a sign that I'm on the right track. Thanks for the response 👍

does he mean that there are certain thought that we cant put into words? there are thoughts that i have sometimes that are not manifested in words

@@GetFunnied if you have these thoughts. Do you have them in the form of pictures or images? Has nothing to do with the question you asked but im just curious

@@luckyluke5614 no man, this thought dont manifest into nothing, its not pictures or words, i dont even know what that is, maybe is just a feeling of understanding

@@GetFunnied The last part is very true. It's more like a feeling of clarity or understanding it. Quite difficult to put it in words as the thought goes so fast.

Yep, totally agree. What's best is, it wasn't until I seen your comment that I went back and re-listened to it, then understood it. Im not sure what you'd call that substructure that our conscious rests on. Is it like "instinct"? Maybe similar to the way the hypothalamus works...beneath our control. Anyway thank you for the comment, or I would have missed the point.

Jordan Peterson is a good teacher. I have been a teacher for 40 years: I know what it takes. I was considered to be a weird but good guy. I have saved some lives. Some of my pupils had have enough of secondary school: I told them they were intelligent and school wasn't. They trusted me. I loved them. Also headmasters, inspectors etc. could fuck off: I thought my pupils's future was more important than mine.

@@walterceuppens6988 you sir, are not a good guy, you are one of the bests

Walter Ceuppens ; you seem to be the kind of man quality women dream of. I salute you, sir !

Can you give an example of Peterson being insightful?

@@walterceuppens6988 its great to know people like you are out there. It took me up to the age of 50 to find that meaning trumps happiness. I have found meaning. I am not great at anything, though talented at a few things but now I have meaning finally I am beginning to "clean my room". I have a tight fire in my belly going to work. Though a minimum wage job in a call centre I want to be the best and deliver the best service for the person the other end of the line. If I had teachers like you , who knows where I would be now.

^ how so??? You didn't click???

Test results came in and says you're a pseudo intellectual

@@Menaceblue3 Looks like we've got more results - they also say you might be really insecure and hide behind a mask of 'intellectualism' to cover for it...

It's "hidden meaning" is that you're a tool. Glad I could clear that up for you. Now you may KS, FB. Good luck!

Mohammed C hahahahaha

Hound19745 - lol

Alan Watts and Terence McKenna always talked about being half angel, half creature/machine, and that our conscious mind has to mediate between natures. It's comforting to know that the psychological literature of modernity manifests this image of the individual as the mediator of myriad motivational sub-personalities, archetypes.

@@marcus8710 subdued by their appetites rather than upheld by their beliefs ; ) the whole of "human history" so yes thank god for those people

Those of us who grew up in Liverpool are half man half biscuit.

We create beauty and show nature a mirror of herself in art and music. We can understand and express love. There's voluntary evil as well. There's 'fallen angels', blamed on pride interestingly enough. The point is, we have potential - there's more light in you than you can possibly manifest. The shying away is what creates room for an equally powerful darkness.

I think that's what the goal of self-actualization is...to your point, if it were easy everyone would have already done it.

@@mhill88ify I just thought the way he said it was funny. 🙂 It is true that avoidance behaviors come very easily to us humans.

It is possible to shape the subconscious, or the great within as Christian D. Larson calls it. If you make the great within your chief cause of concern, and in shaping its development, you can through conditioning develop new interests or deepen existing interests, of which greatly enhances a person's ability to concentrate... Which is the ultimate goal, developing the power of concentration through cultivating and developing interests. One mode of thinking is that you need to develop a deep understanding of the law of cause and effect and really strive to understand that how you feel today is the result of what you did yesterday. The present moment is built under the conditions that created it... What you ate, the thoughts you were thinking, how you breathe, your posture, and many more factors contributed to your present condition. And to slowly build the mental connections to directly relate what you did before to how you feel now. This is how you start to build a future oriented mindset. Thomas Troward once said, the law of cause and effect is one we can never really get away from and he is correct. Also, there is an old maxim, that order is heaven's first law, which holds profound significance. Set your house in perfect order, before you criticize the world. As a grand strategic metaphor for self improvement of any mode or kind, law 6 in Peterson's book functions as something far bigger than it immediately appears. Lastly, there were many self improvement books around 1890-1920 that are way ahead of their time in terms of deep understanding.

@@ninjacats1647 I will admit to being currently ignorant of Dr. P's 12 laws other than their existence. I would agree with the idea of Order playing a large role in finite outcomes, whether those results are individually internal or externally seen. :) Edit: ('Theirs' trip me up) I have since read Dr. P's rules and I'm glad I did. :)

Hey guys great sub thread here... I want to add three things 1- affirmations 2- self hypnosis 3- inspirational art forms These are the way to get the subconscious to work with and for you as your new friend. The price of entrance is (roughly speaking): A- doing exercises with the same relative consistency of any other task that requires repetition for effectiveness... please 🤔 💭 a pleasant thought such as: gardening, a sport / hobby, art work, a valued skill you got... I my self have Kung fu n gardening. Here’s the gig... if I water my cherished plants not enough the may die OR they will being living n dying on and off so much due to neglectful water they never produce fruit, flowers or grow bushy n full of gorgeousness... they need water n foods n sunlight but at different times... n amounts. ITS A CUTE LITTLE CYCLE OF ACTIVITY 🔥 ... So A is activity here. B- is learning about your tools of affirmations, self hypnosis and finding figures to dwell on like JBP says the cross or Archetypal hero or other art works. C- there will be worthy suffering that is paid and great fruit pulled from this effort. Each affirmation session can be uncomfortable n trigger you to cleanse old ideas, emotions or trigger old thoughts / memories. Feeling amazing n elated during a session can trigger the opposite feeling almost immediately sometimes especially if your a abuse survivor n or have repressed old wound events... If you affirm you are wealthy n have xyz house or lifestyle... what happened is often self doubt n fear upon many things... this is what is in the “inner” way blocking your “outer” success lifestyle. You must do a Bifocal Journey. Build your subconscious n then build your physical action world. That’s the dance, form, kata... blue print n building... the teaching n the action. A session when you wake up n a session when you go to slumber... Some more special session on the weekend mid day for a deepening. Benefits are: 1- stopping self sabotage 2- stopping Procrastination 3- stopping self-hate 4- Stop in self trickery/game playing 5- stop in the wasting of time 6- stopping you’re complaining 7- Stopping powerlessness 8- gamgainingat you want or need 9- Knowing and trusting yourself n life like never before The last two benefits require the first seven in order to best bloom n fullest and this process is all inclusive. Again your three firms are affirmations, self hypnosis, dwelling on art /stories/ beings that inspire you to be more like them... If I add a last piece it is to say to ask a Devine presence to help, heal or make real these requests n that you wish it to be so and will be extremely grateful for all angelic or other wise spiritual luck n support. If your atheists it does not matter. Call it coming into alignment with the spirit of the hill you are hiking. Be friends with what you don’t know. At minimum we release hubris when we open to our spiritual side by admitting that even with the wieldable tools we don’t know it all n surrender to greater guidance n vision in mysterious ways. If your a science fiend go study more on research papers about this being open idea n prayer /energy sending studies ect, recovery of rats from surgery ect, and be exhaustive in your research... do your due diligence... it’s your responsibility as the one who “””needs””” things proven... go seek n stop fussing here 😉💜. My last note 📝 before I write books upon this subject is that it is a training to do this. You will sweat 😓. But you need to be optimistic when you do so. It’s feelings n inner structures you are transforming. Your a road crew destroying and building a new road to a new land... as you travel by road workers... in the sun or rain... on freeway or side street... exercising upon and with your subconscious is no different you are training you are working you are sweating and you will be rewarded call it a paycheck call it a bonus it’s guaranteed you’re gonna be paid when you put in the correct work. Take it on as a hobby but do it meaningfully! Great luck and diligence to you!!!

Truth.

Lmaooooo

He’s very lucid

@@jimmclimn6940 as long as he's not very fluid

Aaron Klein ya i stoped engaging in conversations some time ago, if im not first asked my thoughts or opinion athentically by another person i dont speak

Your saying nobody ever listens to you? Ever?

Also it's a two way street. People probably aren't listening because your not listening

@Madeline Ingram there's actually lots of authentic amazing people in the world. You just need to rise the social competence hiarky to meet them. Good luck! Also get good at talking to new people. I walk past amazing people that I want to talk to, but don't have the time all the time!

@Madeline Ingram ah.. I'm tracking now. I completely agree.

pikiwiki ya we will see what he has to say in the end of days... when it becomes apparent the bible is not just simple stories

@Jay P Ikr. I could literally listen to him reciting his grocery list or even sing the alphabet song & I'm pretty sure that he would still be able to somehow find a way to educate, inform, & enlighten me in a meaningful, useful, profound way simply by using either one of those two very obtuse, mundane things as his only tool/foundation in the process. His gift is boundless & a true force to be reckoned with.

... Greg... J.P. is, basically, the man of the moment; a modern day prophet, who is gathering a wide and ready audience, all in need, and starving for guidance. His education, training, and view, shows him a world in crisis and peril, with a planet full of lost, future shocked, and traumatized people. And, just for being honestly forthright and affective, he is coming under fire and being attached, mostly, because of his affectivness...

@@pereraddison932 That’s exactly what I think, Perer. The man needs all the help we, his followers, can give him so that he can help us. All the best.

w. tibbs clemens I agree. I like his older stuff. Pre beard

Curiosity is absolutely worthless without honesty though. Never forget that.

@@khatack Honesty has nothing to do with curiosity. I am not talking about butting in people's business.

@@zabelicious Honesty has everything to do with curiosity and how you conduct yourself. If you're not honest, your curiosity will become a curse to you and everyone around you.

@@khatack Well in my world, it is implied. I only deal with truth and facts. Not twisting things with malevolent intent.

You can solve ALL of those perceived problems at once! Volunteer! You could start out slowly by walking for a cause or donating blood (that would be HUGE)! You can help at a soup kitchen or beach clean up and meet people who will like you just for doing that! I hope in the past year, you’ve escaped the rut that we all find ourselves in. Prayers my friend.

@@ChatGPT1111 I've never thought about volunteering, I don't know many places. Still I don't see how that could solve my problems. I can't donate blood because of weed. But anyways, I've been like this all of my life, I don't have hopes of escaping the rut my life is. Don't waste your prayers with me.

Don’t talk like that. You sound a lot like my brother. He would go through these bouts of despair and depression but was a kind hearted soul who was misunderstood. He was killed in a motorcycle accident 3 days ago at the age of 53. The whole family has come together to mourn him and remember him. He was a difficult person to get along with sometimes with a bad temper but could also be sweet and gentle. Now going through his things, I feel closer than ever to that gentle, sweet side of him that I often overlooked. I wish I would have taken more time with him and helped him in his “lostness” in this world. My mom is devastated. Remember there are people who love you. I love you. Try to get out or do something artistic maybe. Don’t give up. Make a list of all the things you like and see if you can find a way to pursue that thing. See where it takes you. Sending you hugs. 🌸

Dont listen anyone... even so called god.... only listen to youself because nature's wisdom is rooted in every soul... we can get authentic answers by asking to ourselves..we have to just have patient wiyh ourselve... any other is just illusion... no one can help us in respect of wisdom...only we are the solution... you can listen no of personalities as you want but going nowhere... but if you listen ask yourself you will go very far... if you believe in yourself you will learn how to live... dont think that you are not expert of thinking just dive in yourself by writing or just sitting and giving attention to yourself your body your mind...you will find many treasures... if you do this in morning without eating anything it helps too much... just go into yourself...only you have solutions other is just illusion...

Bad taste?

I looked through his videos and was not able to find it. I would like to know as well. JP's lectures are terrific. Some of them I have listened to dozens of times.

2015 Personality Lecture 3.

@@guitaristdotcom Thank you!

@@guitaristdotcom Thanks man

Your boredom= your lack of imagination. A quick trip to the library, just to wonder around til something grabs u....that what'll spark u back up! I have to do this periodically. Also, volunteering...you'd be surprised what that can open up for u!

Stacey Kersting I am in no way bored.

@@skiphoffenflaven8004 Wow. I can't imagine having 'seen enough' of life. It's the most exciting, wonderful, love opportunity. Every new day's a new adventure and a new opportunity to connect with others, to delight others and to see them laugh or smile....to see 'god' in the face of others.

It is in the description

Yes my friend how do you say the suvlaki is a key dish of the greek cuisine. Mm.

basically, you have an instinct that guides you towards what you like/ find interesting.

@@hardlyboiled it makes sense. Every decision we make that results in a positive outcome reinforces the likelihood we will make similar (not the same) decisions again.

He is saying that the things that you are interested in are the result of the framework of your subconscious. Most of what you really are is behind your ego. The real power of the mind is the subconscious.

well put everyone :)

If you watch the full video (and maybe the whole course), I'm sure you will get it. These are complicated issues, and you can't understand them just by watching these excerpts.

Check out JBP channel (it's in the description of this vid), this is an excerpt of a full university class(2015 Personality and its Transformations 3rd lecture i read below), he has uploaded various courses (actually there are two courses: Personality and it's Transformations and Maps of Meaning, which are uploaded in different years). Go to his reproduction lists and there you will be amused with tons of high quality information content.

Fearghus Keitz are you Elon Musk undercover? Or are you deciding to strive for a mediocre existence? Did you decide to be interested in dumb RU-vid videos when you could be interested in hardcore academic shit? I wish I wasn’t interested in replying to your comment-alas

@@BooseJuice :)))

Youre lost.

Can you send me a DM? I had a traumatic brain injury at 14. The doctors said I had 1% chance of living and yet here I am. I struggle with withdrawing and connection. I have a relationship. I’ve struggled with addiction. And anxiety and depression. I always wondered if I was always this way or my brain injury (subdural hematoma) changed me when my brain was exposed to air or how it healed after the trauma. I had 3 plates and 6 screws holding my skull together after. I’ve always wondered if I am not close to what I would have been had if not had happened or wonder if it saved me and I was set to be a terrible person. It’s a hard thought. I don’t remember enough before 14 emotion and processing wise to know if I am different or just the same. Please DM if you’d like to talkz

any return of thoughts or emotions?

Full talk: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t966lVrHEzo.html

I'm picking my nose right now. Who's making me do that?

@@nightfighter7452 The voices in your head?

This is an old video of him when he was younger @crldnlc

When you wrote this comment did you think it would actually help anybody who read it?

Yea no free will right. So i have no choice but to be depressed and die a lonesome death and there is nothing i can do about it bc "fact". Great advice there doc

@@solidmeme7512 Q; How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb ?

@@anvilbrunner.2013 twenty

@@solidmeme7512 No not twenty, it just take's one. But the lightbulb has got to want to change.

You meant the greatest pseudo-scientist who is definitely not Discount-Freud, who is another pseudo-scientist.

@@6drk6mrc6 lol i guess youre one of those people who cant see beyond numbers and charts and research papers.

@@varolussalsanclar1163 I can't see anything beyond experiential reality, because most probably there is nothing beyond it. But, I am okay with musings about it.

@@6drk6mrc6 i think you are a bit confused. Experiential reality is seeing the world according to your own thoughts, feelings, and experiences (as opposed to agreement reality, which forms the basis of both science and religion) and requires the capacity for deep thinking and reasoning, beyond just whats on the surface like numbers, data and observations. Freud and Jung can almost be considered pioneers of this. I think we are really on the same page here, if that is what you mean by experiential reality.

If you consider Jung and Freud to be pseudoscientists, or regard Jung as a discount Freud, you clearly understand neither. Nor do you begin to understand Hermes Trismegistus, for they both could be said to be modern prophets of aspects of his/the perennial philosophy.

God Himself It’s what I want to do but it doesn’t feel right for some reason so how can I do something that doesn’t feel right?

God Himself Someone made it impossible for me to believe in God, who would like to stand up and take the credit for their amazing work?

God Himself Well, the doctors told me and a room full of my family members that our son would be born dead and that we should consider getting an abortion but then this other thing happened and I guess a lot of people haven’t met the all screaming voice of the universe yet Amen the Truth

Everything since then has just been a challenge to my faith including all of the people down at the church with their prayer board.

And if you don’t like it then don’t create a place where someone is willing to bear the burden for God, mean it truly in their heart at the darkest moment of their life, meet the all screaming voice of the universe and get a miracle baby that the doctors told us would be born dead and that we should abort. When Alex Jones is telling me how great the place is, and are there people in the meet here? Because Jordan Peterson says you can only be as happy as the burden you’re willing to bear but what if that burden might totally destroy your life?

Yes

No, we'd need people like him to make sense out of all the chaos.

www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000300070001-7 No, because we are.

BrandOdyssey well he’s speaking on the psychoanalytical school of thought but using both Freudian and Jungian influences in his thinking. Also I would argue that religion is something deeply unconscious, we’ve managed to articulate it pretty well but I believe it remains a product of our unconscious drives. Ricky Gervais once talked about how if you got rid of every bible, we wouldn’t be able to recreate it. While I think it’s true that we may not recreate the stories with the exact same details, I do think that we’d still come up with the same moral principles behind them. That’s just my two cents though, arrive at your own conclusion =]

I think the unconcious is just a way to describe something "under our conscious awareness". It is mentally impossible to maintain hundreds of ideas at a time consciously. He is talking about associations we accumulate over time that create an integrated perception of someone/something. Although, not always the true image we hold these...seemingly caricature like conceptions of certain personalities. So, yes, the unconscious is not really a physical thing. It's just describing a web of integrated thoughts that are pushed down and under our awareness. Hope that makes sense.

Also-adding to that, I think even the "unconscious" being received as "woo woo" pseudoscience is a building of a schema of the concept of unconscious. Like "we are all driven by this mysterious thing". It is not so mysterious when you realize you've consumed the collective ideas near and far of every concept out there. That is how you've built your view of worldly things (people, places, things etc). And even things we may not be able to describe verbally because we learned them at a pre-verbal stage of our life or had no way of integrating the concepts into our limited knowledge.

Everyone has a God, if they call it a God is another question.

Religion is not just taught as a custom - spiritual beliefs, especially in invisible beings, is so pervasive in human cultures that they should be viewed as an inherent behavior in our species. Of course, it’s a range - some people have the behavior very weakly, some very strongly.