Jordan Peterson ~ Different Types Of Depressed People 

The combative interviews he's had were strange, but other than that, I have not seen much hatred for him. I guess some far-right, fascist, religious, and racist groups don't like him because he's not fascist, racist, or extremely religious, and they see him as competition? Some intellectual/scientific experts don't like that he draws upon their fields in a kind of unnuanced, pop-sci kind of way to construct his narrative/beliefs. Also, he went on a crusade about being forced to use peoples' pronouns of choice, which transgender people and their allies didn't like. He has a strange obsession with communism. I've only seen him speak of the "left" with disdain - This is probably where he gets most of the "hate" from, but I think that's too strong of a word. Personally, I'm pretty far left (I think most countries should add more socialism to their mixed economies), but I like Jordan Peterson. I just don't agree with pretty much any of his political beliefs.

Ludik if you speak enough truth regardless of what people are going to think, you will find out.

Well they knew once, but now it's just automated.

Because most philosophers or psychologists are frowned upon. It shows threw out history.

Insecure people

:((

FW the point is that he is just pedding pop psychology and no shit Sherlock obvious stuff, but taking hours to say it and dressing up with big words to make everybody feel smart before realizing the fucking obvious LOL Then he makes people feel bad for not being perfect according to his standards, and tells them that he can provide it with his 10 easy rules. He just can't give a straight answer, because then everybody would realize he is just a fraud.

@@SovereignStatesman Lol

@@SovereignStatesman He puts into proper words many things that are being disconstructed by society nowadays and making people feel confused and lost, since they're actually far from what a human being naturally wants (friends, family, work, meaning in life). He helps normal non pretentious people understand things they couldn't understand before without simplifying them. He helps people understand themselves. What makes you think psychology is much deeper than this? Hopefully a healthy person won't go much deeper than this. It isn't pleasant to think too much to the point of considering yourself a philosopher. I think his work is legit, because he explains things that are probably going to be useful for someone who feels lost in life, and many people do. Me as a young person, it made me feel better that somethings he (a proper adult) explains make sense, since I'm so used to the world being crazy at this point, and seeing adults behaving like kids.

sounds like a perfect life, except i wanna be really passionate about my job too, my creative brain turned into bipolar brain after trauma happened and i didnt even knew i had been through trauma

Same

Yea so now you know you aren't depressed but your life simply sucks. good to know, right?

Same

SaltyDVa. I was wishing to meet him too.

@@danielross51086 I don't live in Canada and I'm from Europe

Psychologists are not sane at all, he just has amazing analysing properties.

@@SpookyWatcher care to elaborate on the insanity of psychologists?

Voidhowl they have to deal with a lot of mental cases, also analyse what is going inside their heads. That being said it’s a noble sacrifice.

How exactly does that make the practitioner insane?

@@SpookyWatcher I think it's more that hes educated and has 30+ years experience in his field - psychology and sociology and the like

lol you're in the right path fam

Humans are very predictable to the higher intellects.

Was just about to write that, are we related? :)

predictable maybe yes, but still can't get along as much as one should tbh.

No, we humans just do not differ much. Especially the less educated ones act more on emotions and there you have predictabke patterns. You will not be able to predict a future but you will be able to constraint possible futures with some level of accuracy.

The sweetest mouth has the sharpest teeth

Amen! The “nicest” men ended up being the most abusive.

Covert narcissists are highly dangerous.My theory is they are probably the number one cause of a spectrum of illnesses that end in madness.

@@welderella Its also possible to be legitimately nice and still hurt you without them being abusive, for example if they feed into your bad habits.

@@welderella getting in here to also say the "nicest" women can also be the most ungrateful and/or abusive with a dash of toxicity

It's highly effective

@Shutbyotch its okay he's part lobster

Shutbyotch but I’ve got lobster friends

Lobsters lives matter

Perhaps the fonts of serotonin issuing forth from the Raphe, which lies deepest within ourselves, are not always at a steady stream. And maybe that's how it's supposed to be. I've heard we can help heal this area if we choose, but I am not sure how. I just accept my depression as me being humbled to the lowest.

criticizing is absolutely necessary but it has to be on the actions of kids, not themselves. It also must be productive and not coming from a place of hate to one's self or any other form of influence, you will see yourself in your kids.

Yeah same, the type of family that thinks treating you harshly in person and singing your praises while you're not there is a healthy way to educate somebody. I know that all too well.

stay hungry for success and on the right way! big up ! ;)

Be proud of yourself and don’t take personally others weakness. He probably is envious and doesn’t have the strength or wisdom to manage it properly. Best, friend.

@@user-mw4kg8cx8t All the best in life.

Woah, it's very sad that you should feel that.

@@dinok7630 How could that possibly be described as a real friendship?

@@dinok7630 There is good criticism and bad criticism. If they criticize you for bad habits and bad decisions and they are trying to help thats positive. But if its all to put you down thats negative.

@Ronaldo Hyde Same, man

Yep. Mother loved me "more than anything" but I wasn't good enough even when I was getting straight A's. She also spent my college fund on a new car shortly before I graduated high school. Motherly love. There's nothing quite like it.

If only every teacher could be like this. I’ve never had a teacher like this.

@Mayo's Mayo ?

Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.

Dis-eased :(

I re read this like 10 times before I got it

@@danieltaylor3625 Truth is always like that somehow. Took me from 2013 to condense the following quote representing my book. ''For There Are None Closer, to the author of pain, & sacrifice Himself... Than Those Who Choose, to perform it for the sake of others.'' -gilpin 122119 -Former U.S. Paratrooper Sgt. William Gilpin 82nd Abn. Bon Appetit Daniel Taylor... www.brainyquote.com/authors/marcus-aurelius-quotes

@Integrated Crazy ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GvnhNeHAafg.html

Forget being an employee. Be your own boss. Even if you get a job as an employee, the mentality of an entrepreneur keeps you fresh. Gets you out of bed and staves off stagnation. Being employed might pay the bills, provide structure etc. and that is all necessary, but the mentality needs to be 24/7 that it feeds into your purpose. Either skills, experience or plain work ethic. And a good starting place is voluntary work because you help others and regain routine and impetus.

I’m 20 years old and I’m all of what you said, however I do work :/

Keep at it. You can do it. Godspeed.

Don't blame it on the weed. Take some accountability. I, along with thousands of others smoke weed every day and handle our business. Saying stuff like this is what gives marijuana users a bad name.

@@angryhoneybadger4189 when did I blame the weed?

yes. they made their choice.

thats exactly what my ex did, she just one time flirting with someone, later she dont want to talk about it and call me jealous," dont be jealous", "the problem is because u are jealous", but she kept doing that, and chatting with others and just making lame excuses. thats fucked up brain damaged people who are doing this kind of bs and not just trying but already convinced themselves that its normal. wow thats crazy when u think about it.

This is interesting, a person I loved cheated on me and I knew it but I was in such denial, I lied to myself and emotionally I became unstable (this lasted 10 years!). I am finally now able to think through it and stop victimizing myself, sucks though because I developed and alochol addiction and ny career is no where near where I'd like it to be...but my point is I knew and I chose to lie to myself (and it realllyyyy fucked me over, smh).

I think it’s because they’ve aware they have the problems. They know the difference between right and wrong but don’t want to expend the energy of going against their natural tendencies. That’s everybody. But if you have major issues, it’s even worse. I think people with mental illnesses/ disorders, depending on the severity of them don’t have a choice but must work harder on themselves than people who don’t own these type of problems. For an example, say you’re an alcoholic. You quit drinking. But you’re at a wedding and everyone’s loose from alcohol. It’s a trigger for you. You don’t want to have to fight the urge and be miserable. Nobody else has to worry about that. They’re all having fun but your disposition requires you to refrain. That does suck but that’s just the way it is. If I have an anger problem and I wanna punch a hole in the wall, I have to refrain and maybe do something less destructive.

@@maisetas bro you're insecurity is a problem. let her talk to who she wants, what are you worried about?

Remember folks, you can be a lot of terrible things, but at least you’ll never be khelbenrage

Lizette Ramirez i feel you man, he is a great role model for those that don’t have a father to look up to

God is not real

@@RealHealthyGuidance ok and?

Jordan Peterson is a inspiration that speaks in truth

must suck to be you

Yep! Curious. You’re not alone.

Yes

alex bez yep lol

yup turns out I don't have depression, I have a PROBLEM (with my family)

Emphasis on the "or illness" at that bit ;)

physical death is not the only death... you know when people say they died inside? yeah, thats what he meant. hollow, empty people who have no pleasure in life. dead inside.

I've had a near death experience. It's hard to motivate yourself when you know just how peaceful the end was.

@@davidb3155 I think that's actually very motivating. If I knew that death is peaceful I could then go all out on my desires and dreams and fear nothing. As long as I don't end up getting tortured or something it's like knowing there's a happy ending.

Ego death

This hit the nail on the head for me, too. When I was 14 I found a letter, not carefully concealed mind you, from my mother to my father explaining that she was going to abort me. She was not married to my dad & wanted to get rid of me, as they had broken up & she was in college. This literally tore my 'world' apart & I had NOONE to tell. I had been told that my parents were happily married & had me after. I found out in my adult years that my dad was actually engaged to someone else & had to drop that woman & my mom dropped out of college. All of a sudden all the bitterness in their marriage made sense and I felt responsible. (I think if they had managed to work things out to a happy situation, it probably would not have affected me like that) I am 42 now, & my parents have continued the lies. My husband came from a similar situation - mom claimed that she didn't know she was pregnant with him until she was 7 months along. Really I think she was afraid to tell her evil husband that she was accidentally pregnant again & that he would make her get rid of him. Everything in his family is lie. Everything. The way that families try to fabricate the truth amazes me & they have no idea the devastation it does on your psyche. After that info, I have never trusted my parents' perceptions on anything and I am not too dedicated to being truthful with them. I really have a hard time trusting people in general. My husband is the same way, in some regards although it manifests itself in a different way.

I second that! I always dislike videos that don't.

you're last sentence is wrong!!!!! I struggled with chronic depression as a player. I'm in an amazing relationship of 5 years, I still struggle with it. that's why i'm on this video. also the only reason you're saying it's VERY difficult to focus on self improvment is beacause you're making conclusions based on the past projected to future. i have fucking terrible focus issues, took me 6 years to finish my undergrad degree, so I feel you. BUT can I tell you something that's been working for me lately? when you are aware and have the energy to say "ugh I'm fucking up again, I got shit to do but I'm wasting time" just focus on self improvement for 5 minutes. that's it. clean for 5 minutes. or study for 5 minutes. or wash your face and comb your hair for 5 minutes. forget what you been doing all day, forget the last month of procrastinating, forget that deadline in the future, "I was supposed to do this 3 weeks ago but fuck it I'll just do 5 minutes. When the 5 minutes timer goes off, that's it, you don't need to focus for 5 hours, you're done. One step at a time.

Sounds like you are co dependent.

I've had some pretty good relationships and depression has been a constant in my life since being a teenager. People have cared about me even though I've been dreadful at times. So don't let it stop you. depression is something I've learnt to treat like a bad knee or something.

@@gcg8187 i like your strategy a lot.

@Stella Aster No. Just NO. Stop the b's saying that you can just "choose" not to be depressed. That is betarded and in many cases deadly. There's plenty of us people with wonky brain chemistry that already feel bad enough without a-holes like you and your "pretty sure you should just get over it". Really... Stop it. Those words cause deaths and further depression.

My mother always treated me that way, and now that her dementia has lowered her inhibitions, she openly admits how little daughters were valued in her family. She only had one child, me, a female. She wanted a son. Stay strong. She is her problem, NOT YOU.

Integrated Crazy no such thing as lazy

I decided to honestly tell all my family about how I feel, and it seems I was wrong about how she treats me. She do get angry with my other siblings, I just didn't see it. I was too trapped and too observant in my perspective and I got so negative about the situation but its not, when she gets angry it just mean she is in a bad mood, its not a planned action. I suggest if others is in this situation, talking to the other person is the best way to solve and understand the problem.

@Integrated Crazy I used "perfect" in my previous comment, if you want a kid that do all your housework, might as well hire a maid, everyone need their own time, you can't priorities your housework over your studies or work so of course you won't be able to do the housework perfectly. I might have used my words wrongly on saying I'm lazy, but you don't even know the whole story and situation, calling me lazy for just knowing the one sentence I said is so useless in accusing me or making me think I'm lazy.

My mother treated me like the maid, was harder on me than my brothers. I resented it when I was younger. I've squared in my head now that she was from a generation that didn't value women but now my house is spotless and I run a tight ship and I can cook from scratch and make a meal out of nothing really and my bills are on time and I can make a penny strechI appreciate it now as most of peers live like pigs. Plus I don't have to worry after a hard day's graft that I don't go home to a shit pit. As this man said "clean your room" so I'm glad now my mum taught me how to take care of myself, my living space and now my family

Go see a psychologist none of us are able to answer that kinds of questions alone (at least not after many donwfalls and time lost)

Lobster

Clean up your room

you work hard at avoiding negative people....places...circumstances and have faith beyond this world....believe in your intuition.....believe in your self.

Integrated Crazy only if you come with me, friend

Same here

Ditto

Hes as manipulative as any, he does have his agenda.

@@haidengeary8277 Having an agenda doesn't make you manipulative. Having an agenda against others does.

He’s manipulative, but as long as people don’t idolise him (leading to stronger subliminal influence) then I don’t think it matters. Time to turn the tables on that type. Take their info, look into it and leave them in the dust. Watch them fall as we rise. Teal Swan is a similar intelligent type that comes to mind. Having said that I don’t think Peterson is anywhere near as manipulative or sociopathic as her, he just has his complex biases and motivations.

Thank you

Your mistake was forgiving your nana

Bless you. Thank you for sharing.

@@PoleHaus Maybe read it again?

Your story reminds me very much of my relationship with my mother. She does not allow me to communicate with her as an adult. She never has. My entire adulthood, and as a child, she forced me to parent her. Yes she worked up until she retired. Yes she loves me. But we do not have a steady relationship because she will not allow me to speak my mind to her, she won't let me be the mid-20-something adult I am. Every so often she gets upset about not "being my mom" because I have a good relationship with my aunt, her sister. She resents us both for it. But I did not choose for her to be emotionally unavailable and emotionally neglectful. She is emotionally manipulative. I try to help her. Tell her how to help herself. But she and my dad both are miserable people determined to destroy their health and manipulate loved ones through sympathy. I know they made that choice once, and noe they don't even know they're doing it. It'll be a sad day when they need in-home care because they chose not to help themselves, because I will not help them turn my adulthood into the hell my dad's parents turned his into. Thank you for sharing your story, because it helped me see the similarities in my own.

People like you always talk about making things better, but that's all it is; just talk

@@PoleHaus just stay miserable then bro.

Just go see a psychiatrist

@@varolussalsanclar1163 not all psychiatrist like JP, most of them might prescribed unnecessary anti depressant pills

The Voice of Reason Why not a psychologist? As long as it’s a therapist it doesn’t really matter.

Jp is not a psychiatrist either.

@@ElizabethSiregar I'll try and help...what's going on?

Found their room and cleaned a lobster.

Lobstered their founders and roomed their cleanings

lovely joke around 12 rules ♥

@Shutbyotch ayo for real I’m depressed and i have shellfish allergies

@@icydawn5570 shellfish or being selfish? 🤣

Woaaah shit! I had the same experience. It ended with me calling one of them a bully. And then I had to press the ejector seat button because the whole group was coming after me. 100% preeetty good friends before that happened. Until they then weren't.

Proves that people can change. Perhaps easier for the worse than for the good. And deep inside they are unchanged and it's just the new pain-body they dug up.

Frank From what I recall his stance on situations like this is antidepressants, preferably in conjunction with therapy. There’s a certain point where if the pillars of a stable life (intimate relationships, financial stability etc.) aren’t in place it can be incredibly difficult to escape the cycle on willpower alone.

Then a daily dose of jordan peterson is recommended.

Fix your life and quit worrying about the depression.

@@flaco5581 you don't get to worry about depression. it takes over your psyche

That's the beauty of it

I wonder if you're right...... People who seem to be the most "happy" that I've met and continue to meet tend to be people who are carefree and live their lives in an almost unconscious way.

I do believe consciousness and intelligence are related to depression. You make an interesting point.

@@daltonbrennan8242 yeah and honestly it can go multiple ways. if you are focused and present in life you can use that as a tool to live in each moment and enjoy it or constantly question why it is you endure each day just because everyone else is.

@@XPCREEPER and to be a successful and intelligent person you have to overcome that depression and find motivation in it. Too many people succumb to that feeling of being lost and not knowing where to go or what to do

This theory is interesting. As someone who has autism(this may seem unrelated at first bare with me) when I put my focus onto things it can literally give me a headache. Anything from a social situation like an argument or a siren going off the more I focus on it the more painful it becomes. Awareness is intrinsically stressful to the human brain, it causes it to work more than usual and could be an underlying issue to some cases of depression. Existential awareness is a bitch and when I used to question the unicmverse all the time with thought like the meaning of life it would get me in a bad mood. When I developed the pilosophy that life is meaningless and therefore I don't have to abide to any expectations I was way better mentally. As silly of a reason to have a depressive phase as that was it really did help to take my mind off of things. This theory is very interresting indeed and there is evidence to back it up although depression can also be a physical thing in the brain and things like love and what yoy eat can also effect it. Something interesting to consider is that your diet could even effect how much your body produces certain emotional chemicals. Emotional matters could be dictated by physical things although I think in terms of diets most people get the essentials to make those all of the chemicals. Also intelligence isn't necessarily associated with depression but awareness is (someone smarter than einstein could realize just how horrible the world can be and still not be depressed)

@timwins31 umm..you understand that adults were once children, correct? It is nearly universally accepted that childhood abuse, neglect, and trauma are overwhelmingly linked to behavioral, personality, and psychological issues in adulthood, not to mention drug abuse. Let me say I am a huge fan of JP. I would clarify that I wouldn't reccomend any adult simply succumb to their childhood issues, they should get professional help. This is a lot different than "stop choosing to suck at life."

Ha that's gold

Even when they're he's still bloody brilliant and amazing human being.

Antidepressants made me suicidal because I knew I never needed them. I was having a PROBLEM.

@@SuspiriaX hope you get better my dude

@@akheelnazimpc sorry I must've mistaken the two types now. I have the family knockdown thing and not the mental illness. Maybe I responded to the wrong comment.

@@SuspiriaX no problem dude. We're all strangers here. Tc

He’s saying try everything first , get a job go have fun with friends and if that doesn’t work then use the anti depressants. Those drugs are very dangerous!

Astute comment. I enjoyed it.🤔😁👍

Go clean your room 😂🤣😂😂😂

Clean your room 🦀

@@frenne_dilley would you like me, as a total n00b, to do complicated brain surgery on you? Don't worry, I'll learn from my mistakes...

@@frenne_dilley I know it's been a few months but I believe he went to the extreme because you also went to the extreme with your emphasis on the word 'NEVER'. He has a valid point, with certain skilled jobs, lack of training and qualification should disqualify you from that role, especially taking into consideration points such as personal safety and that of others. This applies to many fields and not even just for safety, roles that require driving for example, it isn't practical or cost effective to hire someone who isn't licensed to drive and train then when there is someone already licensed who is available. In the service and hospitality industry, restaurants for example, you generally wouldn't hire a chef with no training or experience because you would run the risk of losing customers through bad food and facing a downturn in business or even health threats such as food poisoning from either poor preparation or incorrect storage of ingredients. For a lot of menial, blue collar jobs, sure training shouldn't disqualify you but the same doesn't hold true to every job, requirements of a role are there for a reason. I could go on and list the various fields of science, engineering, teaching etc. You simply couldn't perform these jobs without adequate prior training and qualification. I appreciate your point and where you're coming from but it's unfortunately not realistic

So clearly at school you were never taught about "semi permeable membranes"?

@@ArchTrout I think I slept through it, but it didn't matter in this case because my school was russian

@@skylimitua As a fellow Europian, your comment made me laught and educated me, nice.

You have never heard that word before?

Same. Literally saved my life.

thanks for the pointless comment

@@breh4141 just as pointless as answering to the comment if to do so has no point

@@loginadress898 very intelligent thanks for another pointless comment

Sharing once opinion/experience is not even half as pointless as taking effort on recommenting something you find pointless Also, if you are searching for meaningful things, maybe reading youtube comments isn't the cleverest place to look.

@@loginadress898 pointless of you to say that

There's always tomorrow. Hard times are character building. Trust me, I know. Chin up, mate.

it does matter for you since you made an effort to write this comment.

Hey, you're not alone. I'm almost certain that I'm going to end up becoming some crazy, homeless guy one day due to my personality defects. I hope you get better and find that thing that gives you purpose.

Thanks so much for the positive replies guys. I think I got the situation taken care of. I’m definitely not 100% but knowing there’s hope definitely helps. Sometimes I feel like I’ll never be able to overcome the way my brain was trained by my circumstances growing up. But I’m still gonna try. Ik I’m not done w this life quite yet

Life is suffering.So it’s okay if you suffering with depression now.There is nothing wrong with you.So lift up some part from the suffering and keep it, order to make life at least a meaningful and worthy.And yes, when you do that, we will walk with you. :)

seems like you have BPD(Borderline Personality Disorder). Research it.

Bernhard Waldbrunner i like them it’s a reminder that we are still animals just with more complex thinking

​@@thighlover408 That's true!

Read his book. 1st chapter, he explains the seemingly odd connection. (Ps: a lot of evolutionary neuro-biology)

It is his shorthand for saying that there are a lot of human behaviors that predate the human species. We are the product of an evolutionary history that goes all the way back to some of the earliest creatures on the planet. This is a rebuttal of the schools of thought that state that human behavior is a social construct and that if we just change the society, human behavior will change. This is wrong because it is hard-wired in us from a time before we were even human so to say that we have any real control over it is factually incorrect.

susim Singh they book is amazing