Jordan Peterson: Why Satan? 

Wise comment. 🙏

Ambiguous,vagery, with out point, cryptosism.

Good luck trying, because that's Judging, and as humans, our Judgement is always lacking.

@@BlaxeFrost-X fry is tub 4

More like the hands to shake in the valley of snakes

A extremely powerful observation. Thank you.

I can forgive people without torturing my beloved. Easy, you just forgive. It's a disgusting idea that innocent have to suffer before you forgive their oppressors.

He known since always. He is omniscient.

Ohh yeah and you know that based on your assumptions and wild imagination... another lunatic

@@whoever1 Have you been drinking? Your post is so confused. It makes no sense. Try to explain your questions more clearly.

paused at 49 seconds to comment something similar, goddamn jordan...

Seriously, I couldn’t have a conversation like this with a loved one.

He’s like a stepdad that actually cares

Really? Sounds like babble to me

Okay then...

This dude been reading Hebrews or something.

AMEN!

If the God had to go through it to understand it doesn't that highlight no omnipotence?

@@colinriches1519 He didnt do it for Himself, but to lead by example. It does not matter how good or powerful He is, nobody would follow him if he never went through the same (and worse) suffering that we do.

1 John 3: 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

The way he perfectly articulates ideas and thoughts can reach even a simpleton such as I

@@outsidechambaz yep that's all the ALLPOWERFULL GOD ALLMIGHTY HALLUYAH KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORDS EVERLASTING KING GOD JAHOVA ALLMIGHTY would create just a bunch of simpleton not a ALLPOWERFULL society of super geniuses no no just a bunch of dirty sinners ha

Word salad and a lot of non sense. Many times he sounds like a quack Deepak Chopra. Sam Harris tried to catch JP words and make him explain himself. He did terribly. Hitchens was much better at language and much smarter when it comes to religious nonsense this boomer preaches. Pathetic. I don't get how you can be impressed :o

Comes with education.

...Just type in "A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson" and be amazed.

I am a Christian, and I, too, have suffered in my life, though not nearly as much as some. I see that my suffering has made me wise, and I've tried to become a better person, but I do say to God sometimes, "Am I wise enough yet? Can I rest for a while?" It's a question I'm not sure I want the answer to. But all I can do is pray that God gives me strength when my own fails.

@@darthimperious1594 Life is precious and it's not about being wiser . No point being wise in one's own eyes . Try and make the best of each day . I've learnt that after the huge traumas I've been through I've met others who I consider have overcome more . It was only in Christ did I understand the generational curses that come down our family blood line . The Bible says that the life is in the blood . Throughout the Bible there's stories for us to look at . You ask for wisdom but then read about king Solomon He was a young boy when crowned king . He asked for wisdom and that pleased God . What did his wisdom afford him . He was a king who in his life time saw that much peace he went on an adventure to find out the meaning of life . He disregarded any warnings and bought in forgien women . He was a man so spoilt that he didn't forsee his down fall . I believe we have wisdom that comes from experience and wisdom that is of God . In proverbs it gives great advice on how one should build their life . It applies to the here and now because it's an example just like the many people of the Bible lives are there . We are a blessed generation because now more than any time knowledge is spreading . What knowledge we take in matters because life is a one off exam and time is ticking away . Focus not on the suffering because in Christ we know if it happened to God's only son it will surely happen to us . I live with a grateful heart because I know where I've been hurt bruised and battered Jesus healed those areas and His power works through us all to help others the same . I've seen more miracles and supernatural power at work in past 22 years . I can see from birth to now how hard the devil's tried to take my life I was disowned by my Muslim family and God called me by name . I was 20 when I had no where to go it's only by God's grace I'm alive . Trust me I tired ending it few times . It's not mine to take . God shoock me up I heard Him say that even if I was on life support because of my selfish acts He will fulfill His purpose on my life . I learnt the hard way so I can help any that come my way . I'm soo sorry you've suffered and I hope and pray you feel the peace of Christ deeply in your heart . May He guide you and make you sensitive to His presence . Those who are called are His . He who promises is true He cannot lie He isn't like us men that He change His mind . He doesn't make mistakes and stand firm and proud knowing that it is a huge privilege to have suffered in this world . I'd live over and over again for the short 70 to 90 years of suffering for the forever Eternity . Keep your eyes fixed on the perfector of our faith . Till we meet in eternity God bless you .

Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore, MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.

@@darthimperious1594 Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore, MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.

Yes wisdom is from God and He gives it to us when we ask Him for it. Compassionate empathy comes from the suffering and pruning we endure as we turn to God's comfort in our sufferings then we too can begin to have the compassionate comfort to comfort others well in their sufferings.

Correct me if you disagree, but as far as I can comprehend, you can't be omnipotent/omniscient/omnipresent AND innocent/ignorant to the concept of malevolence. Assuming that the linear, dualistic conception of the "source" or "god" that has manifested throughout various religions and practices across the world throughout human history is accurate, then the source of all creation created both good and evil. Where else could it come from? As above so below, right? But like I said, please correct me if you have some deeper insight than I do.

​@@nellkellino-miller7673there is a interesting way to answer that, Saint Augustin was a catholic bishop that pondered a lot about the nature of evil, and the answer he came up with is that in reality evil is like cold or darkness, were it isn't something, but rather the lack of something, just like how cold doesn't exist its just the absence of heat, or darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good, which would mean that God couldn't be evil, because If he was then it would mean he is lacking in something rather than being perfect, i am not super knowledgeable on Augustin and his teachings so you could search him up If you want to find a more deep and fulll explanation his ideas on the nature of evil

Maybe your donor heart was used to compassion…. Had you considered hearts have neurons? I heard a story about a little girl who was given a heart from a boy who had loved football; during her recovery she developed a love of football… I’m happy that your incredible life saving operation is a success, and that you are discovering such a beautiful facet of human nature, which is truly a gift from God. ❤️🙏

@@MsDormy - Thanks for your support! I often get asked if I have experienced anything unusual as a result of getting a new heart, to which I almost sadly reply "not that I'm aware of." (Although I do seem to be a bit more obsessive than the perfectionist I was before...) The HeartMath Institute makes the case that the heart is like a second brain (speaking of neurons), and I eventually did become aware of missing some of my emotional memories as a result of no longer having my old heart. It seems the expression "a broken heart" is not just figurative, it's literal. As the seat of our emotions, it suffers emotions directly.

What makes you think Peterson is a "Christian"?

Peterson is mastering his snake brilliantly. 🍷😎

What do you mean by gatekeeper? If anything he wants people to think more like him

@@germaniatv1870 he's not spiritually a Christian, but arguably what is called a "culture Christian". Peterson's lectures on the Bible (available on RU-vid) are exquisite.

@@vibovitold Transhumanismus : Pfarrer Hans Milch 1979, Germany. If you understand German, this s want you would want to listen to. Real German Christian Philosophy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_4fenrEydEA.html

Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore, MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.

Question: Do you believe a piece of cloth over your mouth protects you from airborne virus transmission?

@Jay Gee lol your comment got deleted. Censorship at it's finest. But I still got the notification. Good answer! But your question is bad. "Why do you believe" is presumptuous. You should have asked me "Do you believe," like how I did with you.

@Jay Gee Really? I thought my question implies the absurdness of such a notion.

@Jay Gee Anyways it's good to see another human that hasn't been brainwashed these past couple a years. SPREAD THE TRUTH! Lets wake these fuckers up.

@Jay Gee Ahhh touche. All I know is virus particles ain't blocked by fabric lol.

I would suggest reading Jung to better understand Christ.

I would humbly and respectfully suggest one consider the state of the NATURAL world, to better understand the contradictions inherent in the belief of A God/Jesus hypotheses..Peace friend .

No, stay away from Jung if you're interested in studying Christ lol

@@Bill..N Where does consciousness and the Self fit into your natural world? All ancient religions originate from the flame of consciounsess.

@@chrisparker2118 Good question friend.. from the perspective of philosophical naturalism, there is nothing mysterious about consciousness at all.. Chalmers popularized the notion of the "hard problem" , perhaps mainly because it seemed hard to him.. Consciousness can simply be viewed as awareness of the environment..Using this more precise definition instead of CONSCIOUSNESS, and aspects of mysticism and superstitions tend to dissolve on their own.. Furthermore a naturalist would eliminate the number of assumptions that CANNOT be observed.. What you are left with, is a smooth upward line on a graph illustrating a direct relationship between an animals level of environmental awareness, and it's so called consciousness.. I make no claim to higher intellectual ground here but that is how a naturalist views it.. Additionally there are very good theories explaining the BEGINNINGS of such awareness..I'm always open to friendly debate friend, without involving any disrespect.. Peace

What about the other man?

@@mkultra2456 Definately not him, he's wearing Jesus creepers.

@@MrKnightlore lol ikr?

The Meek….There is none righteous, no not one. By the way it’s not necessarily an endorsement. He’s telling us that unless we fight for our faith, we will not see heaven but we will be confined to live on the new earth.

Kiss the son, don't make him angry. For easily he gets angry and you vanish from the way. Psalm 2.12 😘

@@HippieChick60 What do you mean by fight for your faith?

@@colinriches1519 standing up for your faith when challenged. It’ll be different for everyone

@@HippieChick60 Oh. I read that comment and thought of all the wars humans have fought over religion and was a bit concerned.

do you mean “would not be condemned…”?

Jesus Christ died so that mankind may be saved. Whoever believed onto Jesus, faith in Jesus, shall have eternal life. Jesus Christ took upon sin, all sin, past, present, future. Sin was imputed onto Him. He who knew no sin, became sin. And God, in his justice, crushed and killed His Only begotten Son under the full force of His wrath. Isaiah 53:10 Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush Him and to cause Him to suffer; and when His soul is made a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand. God carried out justice. And because He is a good God, He punished the one who bore our sins. He took our place. The sacrificial lamb. Jesus Christ has every right to say in John 14:6 “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Whenever you hear people ask about “why is Jesus is the only way? “ or “You’re so close minded to think Jesus is the only way.” In no other religion or faith, talks about God taking form of a man and died for his people. For all the sins of man and to die for them all. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. So it makes sense for people that do not believe in Jesus Christ to be condemned to hell or as you say ethereal suffering or death. John 3:18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

No you are wrong read John 3:16-17 Jesus didn't come into the world to condemn the world but in order that it would be saved through him.

It's just a story. You guys are acting like it's real.

@@damiandmerri2536 the thing is it is real and the scary thing is there is a silent invisible spiritual war being waged against mankind by Satan but hope is in Jesus🌍🌏🌎✝️🔥👑🙂

I wish Christian's would take note...

Is it certain that he’s not a Christian?

@@SenorRosenberg well at least that is what he says.

Mate, he’s a convert, from hard core factual philosophy to tragically wishy washy belief!

@@svenerikmoeller8809 wishy-washy belief? What’s that about?

Now go drink Jesus's blood and eat his flesh. Metaphorically speaking of course! Yesss.... of course... heheh. 👀

I like that

Id amend that to "Some" humans.

Words bond, i like how you articulated that, you reflect wisdom my friend.

What's PRE crisis Peterson

I would advise a little caution there. Those old stories are intended to be archetypal as they're designed to teach lessons to children, so they have to present a generalised view on life so it can be widely applied.

@@JerGol my bad, but do you refer to the old story with the evil talking snake, or the one with the evil talking wolf?

I would say human nature in general is goofy. Why would one spend 15 dollars to sit in a cramped movie theater and watch other people dress up and pretend to be imagined characters? Why would someone put on headphones and listen to complex melodic patterns of sound vibrations? Music, art, archetypical stores, The Bible, and even children stories all point towards something that seems to be necessary for the human experience. Why? Probably because our minds can only understand the world through abstractions like movies and stories.

@@jeremiahnoar7504 All of these things are also distractions from the otherwise inescapable, maddening truth of our cosmic insignificance : ) the second our brains became capable of asking "why?", we were doomed lol it's not that these things help us gain ultimate understanding of any kind, it's that they give us excuses to live. This being said, some of the things you listed are less offensive to reality than others lol.

@@KangMinseok You're looking at it from an un-useful perspective. Anyone one can look at a time/space frame of reference where there actions are meaningless. Jordan Peterson called that a cheap trick of the faculty of reason. Chalking things up to cosmic insignificants isn't really all that useful either. You could call your impact on the universe useless, but you still have to go to work tomorrow, or study for school, or interact with people and things that will effect your lived experience today, next week in for the next 50 years.

Lol

Amen.

Demonic jealousy in fight with angelous jeaulousy. The better always wins. 🍷🐳

@@alexluthiger731 what's the difference between demonic n angelic jealousy?

Tragedy*

"Mankind could not know a liar" the first liar they met was God. He told them they would die if they ate from the tree. The snake told them they would not die. The snake told the truth and God lied.

@@benjohnis The first humans had child like minds. They have never experienced any evil ever.How easy is it to lie to a child? God never lied, the man who wrote those words lied. Those who claim authority in the name of a god, are liars. It was the death of innocents, and yes humans have been dying for thousands of years. You do not know a liar. "Snake" is a metaphor, silly, they had very simple minds back then, so they had to use pictures to explain their ideals. I see your child like mind believes liars.

@@benjohnis Your kind always blame God for what man has done or wrote. When will you take responcibility for your own inactions? When?

Lucifer is just a complex being, but he is not the source of all evil. He had good in him too.

@@Azelkiel56 No one ever made the claim he is the source of all evil. Saying he is our enemy doesn't imply that.

Woah buddy!

same I beat the fucker every night

Christ already conquered it on the cross, it is defeated. He takes it from you, you are free💕 one day at a time put your trust in Him!

The word of God is sharper than any two edged sword.

Yeah, the allegory is there, but there’s a lot more to it.

It's all fabricated man made mythology stolen from the Emerald Tablets of Thoth.

@@misterknightowlandco As with anything. :) It is I believe in any want to be Christians mindset, that one should go to the word a bit more often. At the end of the day, even as a christian one might be better of going to the talmud or one of those old rabbi Jewish bibles at least for the old testament.

@@horsepowerenthusiast6933 a total lie and delusion

We all deserve to suffer. God is fair, He's also immensely Merciful

I'm not sure where you got that idea, but from how I understood it, that's what Peterson mentions: that suffering is more tragic the less the person deserves it. And because suffering is inevitable, whether or not it is deserved, is what makes life tragic, and how we must better ourselves to deal with that. After all, this talk was about the tragedy of the Passion in relation to the spiritual (ethical) transformation that comes through it, either our own transformation or the transformation of our community.

@@erasetoys1489 Are you saying that the Bible cannot be interpreted in many vastly different ways by people of different backgrounds? Because I've read enough of the Bible to know that Peterson is only emphasizing that God is merciful and empathetic, that God understands our suffering and seeks to help us out of it. If seeking to understand God better is nothing more than "humans trying to seem intelligent," then please, you shouldn't have engaged in this to begin with.

Thanks to Jesus we can repent shit 7 times 70. Best friends are there for each other. 🍷😎

How “recent” do you think sex, money and drugs are? This was my earlier point on a different thread. Jordan Peterson sounds good to people who don’t read. When you expand your knowledge you realize that Peterson is saying nothing original. He’s obviously intelligent and eloquent. These ideas have been around since the beginning of human history. He just presents them nicely on RU-vid. Sex, drugs and money have been a philosophical issue since Socrates, Plato and Aristotle 2000 years ago.

@@krisweaver7524 You forgot to mention the philosophical Line it actually follows from first, which is Epicurus line. What I implied is that the culture is very biologized/animalized (YOLO culture), which J.P. actually himself partially helped become too, through never ending affirmations of "evolutionary biology" that humans are animals and how our lower nature is there the way it is and how many times we can't help it but adhere to it rather than to higher values. Also another reason is that west philosophically almost completely rejects christian/monotheist metaphysics, so all you are left with is scientism type metaphysics where everything there is, is exact material objects, laws of physics and biological evolution.

Jesus is useless

He's literally a biblical play on words. Jordan River is where baptism was invented. Peter-son, son of Petros. Or the church. He's the John the Baptist of our time, but soon will come ... the next stage.

God is omnipotent, so he can feel fear if he wants. Better would question why doing all of this when he's literally omnipotent

You fundamentally do not understand what is required for salvation.

Satan is the god of abused children.

The tragedy of Jesus is his divine wisdom and logic. And this among Neanderthals with basic knowledge in the divine Laws of the holy One of Israel, the spiritual father of Christ, hallowed be his Name. 🍷🐫

The Lords suffering.......And Our Ladies?

Yes it is, by putting your faith in Christ you can come to terms with understanding WHY everything in your life happened as it did, and how to avoid it and be at peace as you stumble forward into the future.

At this moment it doesn't feel like. The worst but true advice is in time it will heal. Right now, recovering can be feeling these emotions. You feel lost, and used because they did betrayed you. You can see your errors, maybe you saw the red flag but choose to ignore it, or you were too lost in the thrill of it. Note them, but don't use it blame yourself for what has happen. It's a flaw that you now recognized to learn and work on. But! You did not deserve the hurt and betrayal by this person, always remember that. It's good if you can find something greater than yourself, something you can connect with. If it's not through religion it can be through nature or community. Often time serving other people, animals or plants can help you learn to love again, something that beyond romantic love.

@@abandonrz the extent to which I’m responsible for refusing to see the obvious is genuinely embarrassing.

@@lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllj That's why he always talks in code.

You don’t get it. He’s saying even if there isn’t a god or satan, why wouldn’t you behave as if there is.

@@martymcfly1833 Follow the golden rule, do you and Jordan Peterson really have to be told this. Really?

@Jo El I love how people like you bend yourself backwards in order to make excuses for Peterson. It's always hilsrious. Please don't delete your comment because I want other people to see it. Please stay the same. Don't change.

"Progressives" is not a strong enough word for this situation: I recommend the word "Communists". After all, that's what they really are.

Remember he dislike the red hatters and think they’re equally ignorant. He hates Dogma and the leniency of the right toward nationalism. Not only that but the ideas of superiority and the lack of compasión and focus on being judge mental. He’s very Christian in that way but it’s not the type of Christianity the right has been preaching as of late.

I like whining professors with the feeling for the right essences in all their spiritual development. 🍷😎

Very true tragic happened but I have seen the most faithful act the worse a s I forgiving

We’re the flawed character

Christ took our place

My guess is that it depends on the precise usage of the word 'tragedy' here. The technical definition of it in the context of -- say -- Greek epics would be as you note "Ah, damn, our protagonist has some hamartia fatal flaw and so now all the things that might have gone well have gone to crap." I think Peterson is describing tragedy in the more colloquial sense of "misfortune" or "Existence entails horribly intense and oftentimes unfair sufferings".

Because the dogma of the church is absurd.

Peter betrayed Jesus 3 times but didn't succumb to ultimate despair, later being reaffirmed 3 times by the risen Christ . Judas betrayed Jesus but gave in to despair and hung himself. He could have found redemption too if he had believed in it and wanted it.

When he betrayed Christ, Judas was not thinking about Christ's destiny to save the world, he did it to get money for himself.

Not only Peter denied 3 times but Jesus once called Peter Satan. Satan entered Judas yet Peter was forgiven and Judas was not. It is because Peter repented unto our Lord and Judas repented unto himself. Judas has remorse. Peter has sorrow. To understand more read about the sacramental of confession.

I think it’s more about pointing out why they are important and how they represent life so well regardless of your actual religious beliefs

I wouldn't think a man as intelligent as him would believe the nonsense in the bible as "literal." Talking snakes? Noah's magic boat? A genocidal maniac of a god? Etc.

Amen

Anything that requires or prefers a lesser version of yourself to accept is better not accepted.

Lucifer/satan is proof the position of god is undesirable

There's a full interview in his(j.peterson) RU-vid channel

Darkness is a LACK OF light. Cold is a LACK OF heat. Evil is a LACK OF righteousness. It just is. Switch off the light and we are by default plunged into darkness. Turn off the heat and we are by default plunged into cold. Cut off righteousness and we are by default plunged into evil.

The garden, walking with God, the tree, the serpent are metaphors. Not literal things. We chose and continue to choose the fruit and we continue to be separated from God and the garden.

@@somethingelse4150 John18.37, 2Tim.3.16,17