Why is Lebron wearing 23? because MJ is the GOAT, on the court, off it, sneaker deals, movies, documentaries anything MJ did became the blueprint to copy.
We all love MJ for his shoes. We don’t care for his selfish plays. He’s equivalent to Wilt, except wilt only won 6 rings. Remember it’s a team game, it’s not about one player so don’t get it twisted.
"off the court" WTF MJ is still dominating off the court... there's a really good reason why Jordan brand eclipses all other NBA players brands... like yo, that's off the court.
@just… That really good reason was what Mike did on the court. His accomplishments on the court made everything off the court as successful & impactful or whatever as it has been all these years. It’s the same thing with Mike’s 6-0…he’s not the Goat because he has a 6-0 record in the Finals, that ninja went 6-0 in the Finals because he’s the best and most complete player ever, the Goat.
Shes right though.. if you never watched a game in your life and someone gives you lebron and michael jordon resume and ask you which one is the g.o.a.t , who do you think people are gonna pick
@@chasenickles260you can actually watch the game to make an argument for Bron. That’s why we watch the game based every component such as playmaking, ballhandling, defense, shooting, accolades and more. Even though MJ is the goat, doesn’t you can’t watch 🏀 and not make a point
@@davids.7845well he won MVP(which is what I think she was talking about) DPOY, as well as All defense and NBA first team as well as lead the league in scoring and steals in one season. I have never seen another person ever do that
Women…………. It’s a whole new ball game. You can’t sit here and tell me the game doesn’t evolve and it’s stayed the same. The reason why there is an argument is because it isn’t clear who is GOAT
She means scoring title. And yes jordan won the scoring title and DPOTY in the same season. He’s won multiple scoring titles, mvps, 1st team all defense in the same season. This debate isn’t really close.
@@StarryNight4024Lebron didn’t make scoring his number one priority like Jordan did…different styles of play…Lebron dished out 8AST a game to help his teammates
@Turkeycock28 Well, prior to MJ's Wizard seasons lowering some of his career avgs (assists being one of 'em), when he retired in '98 his apg avg stood at 7 a game. Which means that he was handing out 7apg to "help his teammates", while playing OFF the ball. LBJ on the other hand, avgs 7apg as the facilitator. Let that sink in for a min....
@@camgrizzly Nope. If the only way to pimp up Lebron is to discuss “off court” greatness, then the debate is dead. Both are extreme capitalists. Anyone who thinks that the I Promise school is coming totally out of Lebron’s pockets, I’ve got a house on the lake to sell to you. Lebron’s family man image hasn’t been dented yet because he hasn’t been busted.
shoes or shoe sales is not off the court. i mean you can't play basketball without a pair and it's part of the game and culture 😄. being a philantrophy doesn't involve anything with basketball so that's off the court.
She debunks Lebron for his involvement in the community but wants to bring up Jordan’s shoe deals and the relationship between shoes and other Athletes. FOH.
That's always been a hard one for me, as I've gotten older I realize some people just aren't built for community activism and that's all right... But MJ, he just don't give a foook bout nobody tho!!! LoL I love LeBron and hate Jordan, but MJ is still the GOAT.
Michael Jordan retired from the game for 2 years, then came back and won 3 straight. Jordan got drunk one day playing golf then scored 52 vs the Cavs that same night. LeQueen cries for respect and thinks he's a politician
Michael Jordan is a philanthropist he just doesn’t compete like Lebron in philanthropy to be a better human. Jordan has done a lot more than people credit him ALOT MORE
@@ImBarryScottCSSif lebron didnt have all his sneaker endorsements he wouldnt have gone to miami and taken a paycut... if michael jordan didnt do his 1 year 30 mil deal lebron wouldnt have thought to do the same in cleveland... jordan upped the value of an all time great player allowing them to dictate more of what happens on their team. Something lebron directly benefitted from
I ain’t never went to The gym and picked up players based on what they do off the court lmaoo. Be in the gym talking about is you a good dad ? Do you help out in the community. Ok bet I got u. 😂😂😂
@@QuavoGotFame 😂😂😂 4 outta 10 in the finals with superteams in 20 seasons while flopping 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 goats don’t flop, and all of the greats have winning records in the finals coz that’s what you play for in case you didn’t know…and by the way tell Lechoke the Joker said easy money 🤑🤑🤑 and then tell the Joker Lechoke wants his broom 🧹 back 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 by the way Leflop is wearing number 23 this season 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Two three peats with a retirement in between vs super team hopper. 3 all stars buddy up in Miami, left cavs for dead then return when love and kyrie are there. Rich Paul force trades AD to Lakers for a summer camp mickey mouse ring.
Every single student in LeBrons iPromise Academy’s 8th grade class failed the Ohio State math test last year so why do people keep showing the school like it’s something to be proud about? 💯
Bill Russell had 11 rings… Wilt Chamberlain had 100pts and a bunch of all time records. Kareem Abdul Jabbar have all time career records that’s been recently broken by Lebron… I believe in every era has their GOATs . The game is basketball changed from the defensive style/play, 3pts, rules, etc. Every GOAT played to their advantage.
U know Jordan is the GOAT when people have to bring up Bron building schools and marrying his highschool sweetheart to make a case for him being the GOAT.
Crazy y'all say that but Bron was doing nada until he started forming super teams .. y'all talk Scottie but show me a player Bron has made great like Scottie
Love the young lady’s comments. She spoke straight facts. When it comes to basketball MJ is on a different level. When you think of others who chanted the game AI (small guard) whose was fearless and his swag is seen in the league today. Shaq - just huge, in the modern game he was unguardable, then there Steph - his shooting accuracy and distance has forever changed how the game is played. Bron is great but he has not changed the game bc Magic was doing what he does before him. I am a Kobe fan, but Kobe was MJ 2.0. Kobe’s insane work ethic and pursuit to perfection on his skills will never be matched but it didn’t change the game.
And her daddy got her brain washed if you never seen him play then how can you claim he’s the goat!!! Sounds like she’s been listening to her dad and uncles!!!
This debate will go on after I’m dead and I’m 22 it will never end sports are debatable! Can’t just say one person is good at one sport it’s all about perspective and personal opinions.
She said they wasnt talking about philanthropy or humanitarianism… but mentioned what Jordan did for sneaker endorsements. This is how you know Lebron is the GOAT. When they disqualify the points they use against Lebron because they are going to give Jordan credit for it. The fact that is a tactic that is constantly used for Jordan invalidates your argument.
@@goodguyscomelast2029 that’s the type of comeback one would expect from an uneducated Lebron nut licker. The average Jordan fan is much more knowledgeable than anyone so incapable of understanding the game of basketball to think it’s even comparable between the 2. Lebron is the most overrated player in NBA history One look at your profile tells us all we need to know, little kiddy with his cartoons 😂
Jordan is the Goat hands down. I watched Jordan and Lebron play. When I watched Jordan I never even considered that he might lose and thru the 90s he didn’t. When I watch Lebron I’m always like how is he gonna let the team down this time…and he does.
so did you have to be alive in the 1700s to say George Washington is the greatest president? Your logic is idiotic, people can study history and make a determination we do it everyday
@@WideHarryCock Jordan would trash the Mavericks. The Warriors would be interesting considering it’s the greatest perimeter shooters of all time vs the greatest perimeter defense of all time. Against Spurs would be a win in 6.
@@chrisnaylor013 nope. Bc he carried that bum team to the finals at 21-22 years old. Jordon couldn’t bring his teams deep into the playoffs outside of those 6 years.
@@dfwherbie8814 You get no credit for carrying your team deep in the playoffs in the GOAT convo. You're using losing stats to claim a GOAT. How does that work?
The Bulls were loaded, Pippen, Kukoc Rodman, Harper. The rest of the 90s teams were not great teams, the Knicks were Ewing and a bunch of role players Charlie Ward a football player was the PG.
a casual female saying she didn't watch jordan play is all you need to know people forget jordan played in an expansion era and has the best team every team without him the bulls were a 55 win team with lebron the cavs was a 18 win do a lot of haters and logical fans not put context into competition and eras to say the 90s era is more skilled is like saying you don't or never watched basketball back then compared to lebron era the athletes are way better and way way more skilled not to mention guards in jordan era was 6-1 let that sink in context matters people
You can't add what ifs to his legacy. If Kyrie aand Kevin Love ain't get hurt and KD ain't join the warriors Bron would've had a 4 peat. If Kobe and Shaq stayed together they would probably have 7 or 8 too
That’s debatable, because who on the Bulls would’ve even slowed down the Dream? Will Purdue? Bill Winington? Bill Cartwright? And I’m a life long Bulls fan, But Hakeem the Dream was a nightmare surrounded by shooters… I’m just saying. 🤷🏽♂️
@@baruchwarrior2389People often forget how well Pip did by himself those years. Hakeem definitely would’ve been a huge problem, but the Bulls would’ve still prevailed.
Mj end the debate he say jerry west and wilt did not get to play against mj he say it to debate that he not play against LeBron James it seemed a bit unfair
Name another player in the modern era that after just two championships.. they were calling him the greatest player … you don’t win back to back and people are calling you the goat unless your body of work in the previous years displayed that .. AKA his body of work in the 80s … plus yes he woke back to back.. but then to capitalize on that sht… he won the 3rd chip …
Why would they make a movie about a player after 3 championships as if he’s the greatest player to ever live … the hype was unreal.. this is all before the second 3 peat bro
Wrong. She didn't say that. She said, "I didn't NEED to watch Jordan play to know that he's the GOAT". Like I didn't need to be in Auschwitz to know the Nazis were bad people.
She is talking straight facts . My eyes don't lie as soon as the ball is up in the air for the jumps. mj is trying to rip your heart from your chest, hands down, mj I love players like mj who cared about wins and losses, not longevity stats
The issue is, who was the goat before lebon, before mj. So if cant even see wilt, kareem as the goat then you dont even know when the next person took over hat position so u cant even speak. Kareem all day.
Keep it about Basketball when it comes to GOAT convos...If the player does not have more than 6 Finals MVPs , there is no comparison. Bill Russell has 11 chips, he was not the best player on those NBA Finals runs, and there were less than 20 teams in the league.
I don't agree with her statement of how she hates when people say I am a product of my time. Jordan is a product of his time. In the 80's he was not the same product as he was in the 90's. Truth be told, my vote is for Bill Russell. Great conversation.
