Hi there, not sure if you remember but the first comment I left on your channel was about the first Jumpstart server after I had been playing for like a month just goofing around. To cut a long story short I did make the switch since my prior roster had basically nothing but a few MSQ story lines done (I finished up to Rohendel I think). The first couple of weeks were great: People were out sailing, mokokos were all over islands, older Abyssal dungeons had way more activity outside card runs, there was even some reverse gatekeep lobbies in PF I saw that were like “No Veterans” or smth. I even had a few people join me in main story dungeons which was absurdly cool to see. I thought it was great (in the beginning, unfortunately a lot of people joined but a lot of people quit so only the old heads making another gold earning roster were left) obviously could’ve been better. Personally I’m of the opinion that we should have gotten our own roadmap. We should have only gotten content up to Argos initially for like two months imo, which sounds insane but they had a six month initial time slot for it to begin with so why the rush? They could have rolled out a new Legion Raid every month or smth after that w/ reworked rewards to sort of recreate having the content be new, since for many of us it WAS new. It was still a tall order to get your horizontals done for runes and skill points when everyone was hit by fomo since we got a SV Power Pass + an event that already lets you skip 2 legion raids if you were so inclined. I’m not in the business of writing these book report like YT comments often but proper new player perspective tends to get ignored a bit imo so I wanted to give my thoughts.
frfr though. You kinda summed up what I would like to see as well. I've talked about this at different points on what/where I feel that they could improve the experience for jump start and new players in general, and I couldn't have said it better. W Video
I have been playing the game for two months now, and when the jump start server comes i'll probably have to sack my current roster and start again. I don't think I am emotionally ready for it
Yeah, I don't believe new players should be punished for not waiting months to start. Though at least in your two months that means you did get Soul Eater path(?), so you did get a pretty good event. While right now people are just getting the scraps if they start.
I would love if they implemented roster transfer in general. I chose quite an inactive server for my first roster, so I can never complete any of the co-op world content
Yeah, the server merges should at least help that aspect a bit. And eventually JS servers will also merge into them at a later part as well. So I think the server merging is one of the better outcomes for such an issue.
Funny, I just commented elsewhere about the card system earlier today. I was saying that the system COULD have been good and interesting, but the sheer amount of time, rng, card exp and whatever else I might be missing is so insane, that you could cut the costs in half and it'd still take way too long. There's more than just two elemental sets, but well... it's so expensive we just do the ones we need the most like LoS and KLC and their support variants. And like you said, the investment to close the gaps between breakpoints is far too high. The more I hear people talk about wanting incremental breakpoints every 2 awakenings or so, the more I like the idea. In regards to the solo/helping Mokokos: I think about the system in Vindictus that gives people an extra core drop for having someone not familiar with a raid. Probably not the same since daily Vindictus raids are more like guardian raids than legion/abyss but still. I always looked for lobbies with the new players in Vindi when I played for the extra drops. New players are the lifeblood of the game, so they really need to do right by them, and incentives indeed make helping feel better when time management can be an issue in this game. Horizontal express needs to just be the normal game. Period. And yeah, not being able to make much of a roster in a game that's very much about roster is rough for new players. Perhaps story express as well, since it's still longer than buying a power pass but it doesn't hurt as much as making a brand spanking new character without a pass. Anyway...sorry if it's a bit of a long comment, but you know--I too like the game and want it to do better. I almost feel like I just echoed things, with slight personal input lol...
I would say I'll die on this hill that cards is an awful system, but literally everyone is on this hill at this point. Yeah, my use of Vindictus is more so to say that we just need some sort of welcome back system.
@@Jukwol Thinking on it a bit further, there is already a story pass like system in Vindictus as well, since you get armor/weapons for progressing the story that are for the levels that you no longer have to make. Either way, a lot like the redeployment, it just helps people get to that 1415 point in a timely manner and I don't think it devalues power passes as the story isn't that short. Also I wonder how much they've improved the redeployment stuff since I last played. It was kinda falling behind 2+ years ago. Suppose that'd be easy to find out though considering.
I played on the jumpstart servers with high hopes and in the beginning it was great but the problems started as soon as raids began. I will admit I am not a great player I don't have great reflexes in game, I play like a boomer and some boomers play even better than me. Together with PUG parties it was a recipe for disaster. I don't play lost ark anymore, not because I don't like the game but because I genuinely couldn't keep up. I also don't have 5 hours every day to put into a game so that lead to me quitting.
The reason you think roster level doesn't mean anything is because you don't use meter. Never has any roster lv150 done any meaningful competitive damage in a raid. Sure they might not get you wiped, they will execute mechs, but playtime wise they're about thousand hours of raiding behind some of us that are 250 or whatever. Does that mean all high rosters are good and won't be dragged through a raid? F no. I've seen some ultra garbage high roster people but those are not that common as a low roster doing absolutely no damage whatsoever. If you see any low roster like 120-150 do average damage in a group, not the highest, know that they're a vet from some other region and are only lagging behind cause they might not have cards completed or something like that. But newer players with low rosters are basically dragged through raids damage wise.
I am interested in the next jump start server and give it another chance. I tried the first jump start as a returning player after quitting before Brel raid. But trying to balance play on both jump server and old roster was a huge mistake. Jump start felt a waste for my previous horizontal progress (13 ignea , most mokokos, most rapport) and old roster felt so far behind, with almost no learning parties for old raids and ended up quitting again. If horizontal progress was region wide , it would make a huge difference for returning players. Also what if jump start raid groups could be visible to legacy servers (veterans/learners can join and help them) but legacy server groups would not be visible to jump start ?
Yeah, region wide Horizontal is something I thought about a bit in the past. But changing that post launch would cause backlash from players who have more than 6 characters. Since all the extra slots they bought could had been free on another server plus they could be making gold off it. In a similar tune on slots, then they would sell a lot less tickets so they wouldn't be keen on that. Also different servers means more free things from events, like the outfits from this current one which means less need for them and some people might just do different characters on different rosters to abuse these systems which means event shops would probably be changed to avoid abuse. And then I'm sure people would be also upset that people are running even more rosters etc. tldr its a big can of worms
@@Jukwol I think only the 1%ers think the way you do about all of that. There’s a ton of people that only have a handful of characters and there’s even a lot that have only one main. The bigger problem is they made you into this mindset that you need all of these alts and rosters and things to be successful. When it comes down to being a game and the reason why the other 80% of player base quit because of it not being a chore.
I am los30 and only missing 4 thaimine for klc30. Just make the card system easier. I have 5% demon damage and 1.4% beast damage and what’s keeping me from beast rn is card xp. I also am a whale and wouldn’t care if they made it cheaper or free. This is rediculous to make cards such a barrier as once everyone is los30 (which most ppl doing the newest content) isn’t even enough to keep your party from not having enough damage from failing the raid. There’s too much rng in this game to attract new ppl…
I assume from context of this you are Jump Start with that progress? That's pretty nuts if so. You're ahead of me from KLC 30 lol. I need that rng. But yeah, nothing really feels good to obtain knowing its all rng. Something I wanna discuss in the future.
Played from start and quited for 6months returned and i am still missing 3 cards for los30. That sht is pog i mean like wtf you know that is main gatekeep on most content. Yust add them all to merchants or increase drop rate in abys and raida. I feal like drop rate from card runs decreased by alot with new raids out.
@@shgalagalaa you can pug but with that but expect that rest of group geard similar and that it wont be easy to clear new content and might exhsust you if you play it on multiple alts
Yeah that's pretty good. It just sucks that like now you're competing with people with LOS30 in party finder on a huge RNG timegate system unless you wanna drop the big bucks.
Dunno why they are investing in jumpstarts, people who play Jump Start servers are just current player making second rosters and bots, number wise it might look like a success but they don't bring any new players. I feel like they eed to start investing ad improving the game for the people who are committed to the game and playing currently cause LA reputation is doggshit in the west and the game isn't attracting new players at all like other mmos like WoW or FFXIV where people can just jump and play and don't have to deal with 36 million systems filled of RNG and that serves as tools for players to gatekeep each others. Lets be honest who is willing to help Mokokos these days ? everyone have 6 characters or more and they need to grind on all of them before each reset. I'm not even blaming the player base, its major issue in the game is the game itself when you make a game that reward people who play a lot of alts combined with systems that are full of RNG with power tied to them, then you're def setting the game up for failure and the numbers shows it, game peaks at 50k half of those are bots so you end up with 30 to 40k players at peak hours even vanilla wow a game that was made back in 2004 have more players than that.
I don’t see why they are forcing people to reroll all new stuff without giving the island souls, masterpieces all the collection stuff at a faster pace. I just restarted this month after leaving a month after argos back then I decided to play with friends again. Now idk if I’ll continue because I can wait and blast through stuff faster in the future with much less stress of collecting all this junk again. Also why not give every account a jump start character? I don’t see the appeal of a “fresh Econ” when games 2 years old & everything is constantly replaceable. There will always be new systems new stats new ways for them to charge people money & time. If they really wanted a bigger player base & not just a bigger pay check they would implement Mentor ques in game or new weekly quests like that to help old raids you’d be a raid leader and teach for extra maybe cosmetic rewards or titles or even gold who cares. This game is one big rabbit hole what are they going to pull out next lol
Like, I think horizontal and such was really good content at the start of the game when players actually had down time. Excessive downtime in KR's content cadence especially. It made sense to have people have so much to do. But at this point when there is always something else to do that can help you vertically, it's easy to forget the horizontal stuff I would assume, as players are just vertically focused.
@@Jukwol it’s good to have goals but specifically to bring new players into a massive grind fest it fails to do what it’s suppose to do. It was great to have a plethora of content at server launch. Nowadays to restart all that or have no way to speed it up is daunting. The skill points locked behind these and certain runes are the big things. They need to be unlocked elsewhere. The titles, base, costumes, etc can all stay gated but essential stuff for endgame you’re missing out on a ton by not having these runes & skill points. Also stat points are small but they add up very fast since new servers or new players do not have all the roster stats so these potions even need to be moved elsewhere. You truly don’t understand how shitty the game feels from level 1 roster 1. I have just went through that process & it’s not great. My old account I can fire up a new level 1 and it’s 1-2 skill rotations one shot anything in story but on a fresh account you lack a lot of the additional stuff that smoothes out the gameplay & leveling experience.
ah yes lets give bonus to mokoko parties so bussers can make even more profit. lets have permanent events so bots are always boosted. They want new players in waves so that they can make groups with each other.
Man, idk how I forgot about bussing when I wrote this. But if I'm being honest that's a rough point. It sucks when you have to implement systems to stop abuse of things while it also hurts the experience of players. Pheons, trade limits, gold trading limits, things like that are all similar in that kind of concept.
@@Jukwol Agreed. Every problem the game has comes down to monetization. Busing allows them to sell clears indirectly so they will never move against it.
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