Kansas moms case: Former attorney of arrested grandma was 'shocked' | Cuomo

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Stephen Jones, the former attorney for Tifany Adams, joins NewsNation's Chris Cuomo to discuss the recent arrest of Adams and four others in connection to the killings of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley. Authorities have said the deaths of Butler and Kelley is believed to be linked to a violent escalation in the custody dispute between Butler and Adams.
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@yvonnesmith2115 28 дней назад

That 16 year old needs to be protected. I am scared for her.

@mightymouse1005 28 дней назад

They're certainly not above unaliving her for sure. I hope she gets witness protection and relocated with a new name, her brother too

@powerlunch7794 28 дней назад

Thank gaud I don't live anywhere near THAT tied up community

@Spartacus12Pendragon 28 дней назад

Drama Queen

@volkischfraulein2957 28 дней назад

Wrangler is not trying to turn his life around. He was made to attend rehab and was incarcerated due to DV with his recent ex-wife who also has a child... She fled the state to get away from Wrangler and his mother.

@user-gz2it1te5r 28 дней назад

I agree. I wonder if the bio dad is in the picture and is he a loving, supportive man. If so, they should run for the hills.

@joshuaonevnine 28 дней назад

THIS TRIAL NEEDS TO BE TRIED OUT OF THE AREA SO THE CULT WONT BE ON THE JURY!

@gayemarianesfox2405 28 дней назад

Absolutely! Move it to a large city.

@hikingwiththedog6078 28 дней назад

These monsters don't stand a chance in the state of Oklahoma. They might not even be able to avoid the DP. Notice how they're being held without bail. It's good they're in that area, they'll hold them accountable.

@debraromine7758 28 дней назад

Absolutely !

@debraromine7758 28 дней назад

Well…. Grandma is a murder

@taisyalover14 28 дней назад

What is it out there with these cults

@lindsayshea 28 дней назад

These people aren’t conservative. They are something else….

@birdienellis1677 28 дней назад

They are evil.

@kafka0622 28 дней назад

Is that bagpipes I hear? Yes, definitely bagpipes.

@kathydixon1666 28 дней назад

Demons come to my mind

@kandicebrown4436 28 дней назад

NUTS is what they are who gave psyco granny custody.

@user-xq3mn2tx6t 28 дней назад

Cult

@deborahdeldebbioable 28 дней назад

Eyes rolling the minute he started talking, "to be fair"...

@kbusby4824 28 дней назад

Indeed.

@stacytw79 28 дней назад

YUP.

@casfraser5598 28 дней назад

I think murdering her grandchildren’s mother definitely destroys anything she may have done in the community. Her evil plans to try and kill the children’s mother the month before, then the second attempt. Where they succeeded, is evil. Those poor children have lost their mother.

@rosemaryprice5494 28 дней назад

Her lawyer is trying to spin the case!! And taint jurors! Adams thinks she above the law!!

@donlum9128 28 дней назад

Granny paid off lawyer. Both don't care about community just bank account

@user-di4gp6zy1m 28 дней назад

I'm not making fun cause I'm broke but renting land and a shack on it makes you rich in this county

@birdienellis1677 28 дней назад

I would be afraid granny's misfits would unalive the children at this point.get the children in protective custody.

@gointothedogs4634 28 дней назад

And two beautiful young mothers lost their lives.

@theresagosnell7645 29 дней назад

This lawyer is apologizing for her. Trying to explain her deeds away .

@deborahdeldebbioable 28 дней назад

I couldn't believe it.

@glitterprincess5672 28 дней назад

🤮

@robertpesa4157 28 дней назад

As soon as he said "to be fair".....

@user-di4gp6zy1m 28 дней назад

He's as nuts as his client.

@mariondewit 28 дней назад

He is a member of this nuts club

@maurad5378 28 дней назад

Individualistic? Try domestic terrorists.

@heatherstephens9295 28 дней назад

Exactly!

@marymichael8556 28 дней назад

Sounds that way!

@garodriguez46 28 дней назад

YES! AND HE KNOWS WHO IS A PART OF IT!

@stacytw79 28 дней назад

He was involved in the Timothy McVeigh case…

@user-xq3mn2tx6t 28 дней назад

True

@SLR858 28 дней назад

Everyone was so afraid of her! No one would speak until women were killed. Many peoples hands are dirty for not speaking out.

@deborahdeldebbioable 28 дней назад

He's making excuses for her murdering these women?

@tja3495 28 дней назад

Sickening!

@donnaclark3246 28 дней назад

THERES NO EXCUSE FOR HER MURDERING TWO MOTHERS!

@MG-ot2yr 28 дней назад

Just imagine if grandma had taken a different path, and was supportive of Veronica, helping her get back on track, and back with her kids...she still would have been a major part of her grandchildren's lives. Now she'll never see them again and potentially faces the death penalty. The stupidity of some people is just mind blowing.

@LizzieWhiz 28 дней назад

Money and power corrupts...absolutely!

@arizonadreaming4183 28 дней назад

Fked up mind...narcissist

@lindasue263 16 дней назад

Yes, it is. I am saddened every day by what evil people do every minute of every day! 😢😢😢

@kristendavis7870 28 дней назад

Omg! This lawyer is pathetic!!

@donlum9128 28 дней назад

Most are weasel thugs

@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 28 дней назад

@christykloss he's not the current lawyer

@hikingwiththedog6078 28 дней назад

Why? Because he mentioned he read a report? That's all he said, is that he read the report and also that he never saw this coming. I guess you've never been fooled by anybody and never had anyone surprise you.

@bornfree0507 28 дней назад

That’s probably why he’s her former lawyer.

@momof1576 28 дней назад

No he’s not. He’s giving information about the area and the case without sharing privileged information. Educate yourself.

@macelnavarro3999 28 дней назад

Sir what do you mean “ to be fair” ? Are you trying to downplay what this old woman did.? Just asking?🤔😔

@mthoustontx4311 28 дней назад

Old woman?? Are you trying to set up an elderly defense for her?? She's only 54 years old!

@donnaclark3246 28 дней назад

Stop justifying this murder’s actions!

@taisyalover14 28 дней назад

Right she's such a upstanding citizen 😂

@gaylavogel4335 29 дней назад

Rancher no more! WHAT AN EVIL GRANNY!

@bookbag6432 28 дней назад

What does the parents never being married have to do with anything?

@tja3495 28 дней назад

Nothing.

@naturistfred 28 дней назад

I guess he's shaming them for having kids out of wedlock. Not sure what that has to do with custody.

@heatherstephens9295 28 дней назад

Absolutely nothing 🙄🙄

@mightymouse1005 28 дней назад

The gramma isn't married to her bf. I guess if your rich, it's OK. If not, it's a scandal

@heatherstephens9295 28 дней назад

@@mightymouse1005 exactly 👍

@janellwoodward1548 28 дней назад

IF what you say is true….I get the impression this lawyer approves of grandma’s actions.

@rosemaryprice5494 28 дней назад

He is her lawyer! He was also the defense attorney for OKC bombers! It was written across the screen go back and read it!

@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 28 дней назад

@rosemaryprice5494 former lawyer

@glitterprincess5672 28 дней назад

This lawyer needs to be watched!! Sounds like he agrees with what she did

@user-pq6xi8ls1o 28 дней назад

He's got to act like he's defending her while he takes her house, farm , car, and savings while representing / defending her.

@BecksBSL 28 дней назад

@@user-pq6xi8ls1ohe’s not representing though he’s ‘former’

@fremontpathfinder8463 29 дней назад

I bet they now wish they could turn back time. This lawyer is saying "To be fair." Fair about what??? Wow this lawyer is trying to rehabiliate her reputation. She is a sovereign citizen who planned a murder. It sounds like other members of the community feared her. Was Veronica's brother arrested? Was their medical evidence of sexual abuse? No one has said that.

@PresleysMom 28 дней назад

That's how they do in a tight small town.

@tja3495 28 дней назад

Exactly. This lawyer sounds just like the judge who was interviewed in the car by the reporter from NewsNation, that judge was praising Tad Cullum (who is married to Tifany Adams) who was involved in the murders. IMO, there is a lot of lying from people, like the judge and this attorney, who are covering for these 4 murderers.

@magentared5822 28 дней назад

@fremontpathfinder8463 no the brother was not arrested, and no there was no medical evidence of sexual abuse.

@janetd569 28 дней назад

There are zero excuses for her to murder those babies mom!! She is pure evil!!

@carrieannkouri2151 28 дней назад

I’m hearing a lot of minimizing and victim blaming from the attorney!

@madworld5511 28 дней назад

The grandmother used her connections to take custody of her grandchildren and get away with threatening the life of the mother

@maryfisher7132 28 дней назад

To be FAIR? Sir, your client is a murderer.

@danielleragin1306 28 дней назад

Right!!

@777FHL 28 дней назад

Veronica had her own place, a police officer fiance of 5 yrs, her own business, Sunflower Nutrition, a juice and smoothie bar, she has been an upstanding citizen pretty much all along, so the former attorney should not speak as if Wrangler was working on himself and Veronica was incompetent. Wrangler was in court ordered rehab when Tifany and her minions k*lled Veronica and Jillian, while Veronica was actively doing everything in her power to provide a good life for her children and get them back.

@Love_n_Light77 28 дней назад

I can only imagine all the people that's affected by this corrupted town.

@trisha7976 28 дней назад

I'm baffled by ppl who are willing to put their own kids/grandkids through the horrific pain of losing their moms. You couldn't truly love a child and do that to them.

@marysluss811 28 дней назад

That lawyer is delusional he's trying to make excuses really

@wandaalvarez117 28 дней назад

I agree

@loadedhot1034 28 дней назад

Was the brother ever charged with sexual assault? I could see the grandmother being responsible for making these allegations after commiting a double murder.

@kellyjoyner490 28 дней назад

From what I could find, it was alleged by one of his victims. It is under investigation. So this witch didn't come up with it on her own.

@reformcongress 28 дней назад

I did a search for offenders in the area. The brother is not on the list, assuming that they both have the same father.

@hikingwiththedog6078 28 дней назад

@@reformcongress He's Veronica's half-brother, so who knows what his name is. Apparently, the state of Kansas did conclude him to be a predator. Wish the report would be made public. It does NOT excuse this crime!!!!! But it would still be good to see what's up, for the well being of the kids.

@bbe3034 28 дней назад

At 5:59 there’s a picture the guy who was charged with SA.

@reformcongress 28 дней назад

@@bbe3034 Nope. That's the father of the children. Wrangler Rickman is Tiffani Adam's son.

@bethedifference7624 28 дней назад

God bless and protect this 16 year old young lady. How brave!

@heatherstephens9295 28 дней назад

Liars like this “lawyer” make me sick 😡🤬

@momof1576 28 дней назад

What is he lying about? He’s explaining the history of the case.

@wandaalvarez117 28 дней назад

I agree ..

@gabegood8989 28 дней назад

In 1995, Stephen Jones became the lead defense attorney for Timothy McVeigh!! HIS WORD IS MUD!!!

@TMann-eg1gi 28 дней назад

He was appointed by the Court.

@DeeLite220 28 дней назад

@@TMann-eg1gi the majority of these commentators don’t seem to understand how the law works.

@sharoncruzen1942 28 дней назад

@@TMann-eg1giNo, he knew her from the community plus he was her personal attorney.

@stacytw79 28 дней назад

BINGO. Okie here.

@TMann-eg1gi 28 дней назад

@@sharoncruzen1942 - He was appointed by the court to represent Timothy McVeigh.

@bethedifference7624 28 дней назад

To be fair, there is nothing you could say good about this woman that will excuse her action of murdering 2 women! How dare you!!!!!!

@lilithstribe 29 дней назад

Holy Yokels batman! People in that part of the country need to get out more!

@deborahdeldebbioable 28 дней назад

I know! He kept saying..".they were never married", as though that somehow tainted Veronica and justified this heinous crime? And calling her "marginal in the economy? " Wow. I never want to live anywhere near there..

@selecttravelvacations7472 28 дней назад

@@deborahdeldebbioablewhen he said Marginal in the Economy I nearly lost it! WTF?!!

@lilithstribe 28 дней назад

@selecttravelvacations7472 I know! These people take themselves seriously too. I absolutely understand how these four killers thought they would get away with it.

@lilithstribe 28 дней назад

@@deborahdeldebbioable LoL, same! Crazytown!

@leighann5308 28 дней назад

So then if the brother was a sexual predator why wasn’t the hit on him instead if that was what Grandma was worried about why the mom and supervisor?

@LoriBlaser 28 дней назад

Excellent point !!!!

@bornfree0507 28 дней назад

So he thinks she’s above the law and can’t be guilty of a crime, because of her standing in the community?! He’s low.

@WendyWms 28 дней назад

I dont care at ALL what a good person she was regarded as in her community nor how established she was....she took the law in her hands and disregarded anybody else's opinion and took the lives of two women! She has destroyed so many lives because she wanted what she wanted because she knows best!!! I have no sympathy for these suspects....\

@777FHL 28 дней назад

Tifany is GOP Chairman for Cimarron County, she has people in her back pocket and has for a long time. This all runs much deeper than people realize. Also for CW to ask Cora if they put the women in a well, she's obviously been through this before. All land ever affiliated with this people need searched good, starting with Tifanys 1000 acres.

@justicedenyd 28 дней назад

AGREED!! These heinous murderers undoubtedly have made other enemies, real or perceived. It's very possible there are more bodies hidden!

@marthaabrams9062 28 дней назад

What is he trying to say , 6 children left without a mother ,

@kays6665 28 дней назад

No matter how bad the custody was going, nothing justifies Murder. Most custody battles these days end in Shared custody.

@gypsyscometotown 28 дней назад

The son has tried to turn himself around ??? He was just arrested as a felon with a weapon threatening his new wife with that weapon, that’s not turning his life around 🤦🏼‍♀️ That’s why he’s in a secured facility & the court let him off the hook for the weapon & domestic threats because his mother has the legal community in her pocket.

@ivet6585 28 дней назад

The granny is definitely not a fine citizen of this community

@motleymama6587 28 дней назад

Who thinks her lawyer is in the cult?!

@wldncrzy1971 28 дней назад

5:34 yet YOUR CLIENT is a murderer…sooo you’re trying to defend the character of a worthless human. She’s despicable. Stop trying to make her something she’s NOT!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

@fitforever22 28 дней назад

She is a fine member of the community?? These people are all her puppets. I am glad media got involved and maybe this evil person's actions cannot be swept under the rug anymore.

@franceslynch8815 28 дней назад

Cannot believe this man is explaining benignly her reasons for killing two loving mothers. He is using the fact her brother is a sex offender to justify the murder of his sister and her friend. This is depraved thinking.

@naturistfred 28 дней назад

He's talking like a defense attorney. That's the angle that they will most likely use in court.

@heatherstephens9295 28 дней назад

He is not a sex offender. Grandma Clampet made that up with no proof or evidence so she could get full custody 😡

@franceslynch8815 28 дней назад

@@heatherstephens9295 Oh I did not know that. I read the courts stopped her custody because he was and he had access to the kids. Thanks for that👍

@kc-dl2yu 28 дней назад

Now we know at least one thing for sure, GRANNY laid a huge pile of $$$$$ on this Attorney's Desk! Just sickening. He's a damn crook as well, imo.😡

@jennhowe834 28 дней назад

Former attorney my azz. The way he talks, he's already setting up her defense...... Horrible man!

@justrobin6459 28 дней назад

The lawyer is fumbling his words & attempting to 'explain' her actions. Pffffffffffffffffffffftttt

@lindaohlemacher1774 28 дней назад

Its always those well known people who think they can get away with anything and everything

@annettealexander3673 28 дней назад

Making excuses for this person going on what a good person she is .she is responsible for this sir.

@ROBINstrawBERRYwine 28 дней назад

Why would someone expose this 16 yr old and put her life at risk!!!!🤯😡

@musicjenjen 28 дней назад

So this sick lawyer is ok with killing a mother & another woman. Got it.

@gailfisher4767 28 дней назад

"To be fair", " she's well know", OMG!

@shondrawhite9317 29 дней назад

Grand monster....she's no grandmother 🕯️🕯️

@gloriagramazio8096 28 дней назад

Very good reporting Cuomo today

@user-di4gp6zy1m 28 дней назад

No wonder son is on drugs

@anonanon8507 29 дней назад

Prayers for 16 year old witness. I hope they have her in a safe place. Thank you sweetheart for coming forward. 🙏🫶🏻🙏

@comawhite821 28 дней назад

How can you tell when a lawyer is lying??...When his lips are moving. His pants are probably on🔥

@StoptheLie 28 дней назад

Why are they trying to protect them with vest? What a joke!

@clintondarnell5318 28 дней назад

She lied with false accusations to get custody. Thats why they killed them. To make them disappear. The Mother was gonna get full custody. And the judge and judicial system believed it. Shoulda never happened. Absolutely sickening,the judge and the state will face no accountability.

@hikingwiththedog6078 28 дней назад

Okay, but how do you know the accusations are false? Did anything horrible happen to you when you were a little kid? Because I promise you, it's no fun to be a little kid at the mercy of a predator. Wouldn't it be awful if the state of Kansas really DID find this guy is a predator, and if he now got access to the kids? The evil granny should never get out of prison, and hopefully get the DP. And the kids should STILL be protected from a predator if there was one.

@trailerparkcryptoking5213 28 дней назад

They can’t use the molesting defense, they murdered the supervisor also!

@user-ox9pg7nt9w 28 дней назад

Special treatment regarding custody for Tiffany. Because of her standing in community. B-s-

@vickiclark1998 28 дней назад

Unbelievable! To actually think this is a real life solution. No one cares if she is a farmer or a member of the community. She plotted to murder her grandkids mother and her friend. Small, tiny minds with zero morals and ethics. No reason for any of this. So sad. They have destroyed those children and multiple families, and for what?

@jerzeydolphins 28 дней назад

the devil is real and these people prove it

@lindaouellette6656 28 дней назад

Oh sure SIR!!! blame the victims and families of the victims, but this good ole boy granny WAS investigated by the the DEPARTMENT of children and family services…. We all know they can do their jobs so *WELL* that they save every child they service 😮😢 he needs to retire FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!!!😢

@electricmessiah1310 28 дней назад

This attorney is probably lying through his teeth to save himself.

@anthonytalbert399 28 дней назад

The son tried to turn himself around? I guess thats ignoring the two dv charges in feb against his pregnant wife.

@maimay8862 28 дней назад

Ohhh boy now she's lost her grandchildren for good, they are never going to forgive her for taking their mother and her friend on the 6 year olds birthday 😢😢 just incomprehensible, a grandma, would do this horrific crime, to the very grandchildren she said she loves, these people just want power and the upper hand, and now she will spend the precious time she should be enjoying with her grandchildren in jail, there's no winners, everyone has lost 😢😢

@ewillson4953 28 дней назад

She will get the FEFFRY DARMER JUSTICE IN PRISON.. EVEN BAD PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HER KIND. JUST GIVE IT TIME SHE MANY NOT MAKE HER TRAIL DATE...SOMETIME THE WILL FIX THINGS THERE WAY..GUARD S JUST LOOK AWAY ...LET IT FIX IT'S SELF❤❤

@user-mu3xk7ie2t 28 дней назад

Death Penalty ⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️

@annagarza7299 28 дней назад

This lawyer is making excuses for that woman NO ONE CARES THAT SHE IS MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND WELL KNOWN that’s fine and dandy but she killed 2 women 💔😭so now the kids have no mother the father is in and out of prison and now grandma is going to prison it must run in the family …….

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

The lawyer is talking like a lawyer. If he represented her there's stuff he can't say.

@LizzieWhiz 28 дней назад

I find it incredible that the person who should have accompanied Veronica backed out after she was told by the grandmother not to attend! Why the hell did she not report this to CPS or the police? Two women may still be alive today if she had reported the threat.

@Coffeelover4evr 28 дней назад

I thought the same thing. Unbelievable.

@mindymorgan8479 28 дней назад

He is getting the facts wrong anyway... This guy knows nothing. Wow. He should be embarrassed.

@deedeewinfrey3181 28 дней назад

Omg, those poor children.

@karenwalters1211 28 дней назад

I know. These kids have no dad basically, no grandmom, and no mother. So sad. I hope they lock these people up and throw away the key

@maryannedaugherty8722 28 дней назад

Cimarron County won't be isolated anymore! What else is going on there? 😳🧐🤔😬🤪

@reformcongress 28 дней назад

I've known people from that county and never has there ever been a mention of a group like this one until this case. Being individualistic isn't a sign of anything nefarious. Being in that cult is not being individualistic.

@markinvt 28 дней назад

The murder of the supervisor, Jillian, was totally unnecessary since Tifany could have told Butler to come alone as she (Tifany) would have her (Tifany's) own supervisor attend---unless Tifany thought Butler would become fearful of going alone and back out of meeting up with Tifany by herself.

@susangortva7939 28 дней назад

how did tifany get her hair done so fancy braided in jail. her arresting picture looked like she rolled out of bed. honestly want to know

@nikkipage9132 28 дней назад

Your coverage has been the best. I really like the style of reporting.

@tomnohmy1273 28 дней назад

Prison the rest of her life. Won't see the kids. She must have said. If I can't have the kids. She sure won't.

@CeeDee01 28 дней назад

Their attorney is as evil and sick as his clients.

@darlenedowie2926 28 дней назад

Small isolated community and county is straight-up racist.. The lawyer is straight-up justifying this murderer and his actions. There isn't no but his client murdered an innocent person and her grandchildren 's children. I hope the witness is safe. He knew his client was capable of murder.

@momof1576 28 дней назад

No he’s not

@philliphall5198 28 дней назад

She thought after all the years of getting her way because of her money, I’m thinking she has done other things or murders also Seems it is not at all effecting her like she going to get by with it again 😢😢😢

@TurkeyCreekGal 29 дней назад

If her lawyer didn't think/know Granny was going to do whatever she had to do to get custody of the kids! Even if she had to murder Veronica, Wrangler and the judge! She just didn't get the judge and Wrangler!

@momof1576 28 дней назад

No lawyer expects a person who has the upper hand in a case to resort to murdering the opposing party.

@TurkeyCreekGal 28 дней назад

@@momof1576 oh I think you're wrong. I think a lawyer knows their clients good enough to know what they're capable of doing! Especially this lawyer knowing Granny

@mama13bugs 28 дней назад

The lawyer sounds like he is saying the grandma had reason to do this

@user-di4gp6zy1m 28 дней назад

Where did he get his law degree

@rondakelly1431 28 дней назад

My cousins and aunt both live in this county. There ARE NOT a bunch of radical groups running around. My family has lived thru out this area all my 57 years I have never heard any rumors of it. This guy is trying to paint A Lot of people with a negative brush. Good hard working people out there, not a bunch of crazy zealots.

@dora59 28 дней назад

This interviewer cut off the attorney when he got to an interesting point describing what the residents of this county are like.

@rondakelly1431 28 дней назад

My family and I grew up in this area and we arent a bunch of nutcases like this guy is trying to make it sound.

@DeeLite220 28 дней назад

@@rondakelly1431. He said half, not all

@rondakelly1431 28 дней назад

@@DeeLite220 wow, so you think half the people.are in radical groups we just never noticed???

@debraromine7758 28 дней назад

The grandma can’t just take ….. her grand children from their mother !

@anneritchie426 28 дней назад

They always make up some story , Hopefully nobody will arrange to meet in a remote area.Anne from Scotland

@stacytw79 28 дней назад

Oklahoman here- The atty Stephen Jones was involved in the Timothy McVeigh case.

@geoffreyholliday1971 28 дней назад

Grandma will get the needle that's fact

@user-pg7cx9wo1m 28 дней назад

Remember Folks that these 4 are the towns bullies, everyone was afraid of them including the Sherriff Department!!

@sissykim3975 28 дней назад

So Adams felt Butler was being irresponsible by not admitting that her brother may have molested the children. Yet, no one was charged and we dont know if the children had physicals to determine if they had been molested in that manner. So in order to protect the children from further harm she killed the mother. The other murder was collateral damage. She was in the way. And how many people knew this was going to happen? I bet the teen confessed as they could be charged with accessory after the fact for cleaning up the potential crime scene.

@pcsnow1 28 дней назад

What a cluster.

@nicme 28 дней назад

Thus case is so infuriating. In particular the grandmother infuriates me. Because she's too stupid to understand that those children needed all of their family. Instead she left those children with nobody. What a pos. And this guy being interviewed keeps stating the parents weren't married. What the hell is his point saying that? Mom is still mom well not now because she got offed.

@JonHullock 28 дней назад

The grandma has already admitted to killing the woman. The paper work shows.

@smudgesaysno524 28 дней назад

Whether the allegations against Butlers brother is true, that does not justify murdering her and the innocent supervisor. Butler was turning her life around and doing everything in her power to regain custody. Granny knew she was gonna get them back and decided to kill her. She wasn't thinking of those kids, she was thinking of her selfish need to control and get her own way. Now 6 kids lost their mom's. Nothing justifys murder.

@EUZ890 28 дней назад

The judges in custody hearings need to change too many families are torn apartment by custody arrangements

@lindalee4408 29 дней назад

Grandma, this isn’t love of your grandchildren. This is power.

@stattlich7488 28 дней назад

This lawyer represented Timothy McVeigh.

@mightymouse1005 28 дней назад

Well, we know how that turned out....I hope this turns out the same way.....sje should have got OJs lawyer

@NannaKim5770 28 дней назад

Hes lying!!!

@stephanieallangarman5598 28 дней назад

I’m a Conservative and the twisted beliefs are not and ideology I agree with. I’m also Indigenous Native American so I definitely look at the GOVERNMENT differently than most but I still don’t get WHY she thought murdering two women …the one the mother of the grandchild and the other a Pastor’s wife. I pray the babies are not allowed around the brother of the deceased. This is sad 😢💔🙏🏽.