KARANAK ARRIVES! New Gameplay Mode, MASSIVE UI Improvements, and Much More! Patch 5.1 Analysis 

This patch also updated the lord selection screen, either by upgrading the graphic or making a whole new animation for the lord. Some lords were updated on last patch (Malekith, Morathi, Tyrion) but since I forgot who else got it the last time, I'll just list down all the changes: Repanse de Lyonesse Crone Hellebron, Lokhir Fellheart, Malus Darkblade, Rakarth Thorek Ironbrow Markus Wulfhart Tyrion, Teclis, Alarielle the Radiant, Alith Anar, Eltharion the Grim, Imrik Lord Mazdamundi, Krog-Gar, Tehenhauin, Tiktaq'to, Gor-Rok, Nakai the Wanderer Wulfrik the Wanderer, Throgg Queek Headtaker, Tretch Craventail (my favourite, running away even in the character selection lol), Ikit Claw, Deathmaster Snikch, Throt the Unclean Settra the Imperishable, High Queen Khalida, Arkhan the Black Luthor Harkon, Count Noctilus, Aranessa Saltspite, Cylostra Direfin Sisters of Twilight No updates for greenskin, beastmen, vampire count, and the warhammer 3 base races. As someone who plays all factions and enjoy starting new campaigns, I appreciate this. (Lokhir Fellheart still can't stop stabbing his own foot 😓)

I'm going to try out the new bolt throwers. Give em the rune that gives them homing they will probably wreck even fast cav. I think with 8 models now giving them the explosive ammo rune, they are going to shred infantry, too.

Only 2 hours!? So disappointed

21:01 speaking on Behalf of "people who Dont have friends" hahahahha i am happy they have finally Done this. Hahahah

Thorek Ironbrow campaign is going to be significantly different with the Bolt Thrower changes

Thanks for the recap!

I love these long videos, thank you for your care and detail❤

I grew up on the mean streets of Tuleta, TX and we had a saying about those who complained about the heat in Texas.........unfortunately, I'm old and cant remember what it was.

your post made me aware of the patch and it feels really good to hear about the changes. Thanks!

This patch seems oddly tailored to my preferences as a custom battle enjoyer. Domination is HUGE, i liked the survival battles as well but they got repetetive a bit too fast, so this will be a nice mixup between/alongside land battles. Additionally the ability to bring multiple lords is also gonna be verry interesting for thematic armies (teclis and tyrion, drycha and durthu etc). Besides all that MAYBE the thunderbarge is now at a powerlevel where i dont feel bad about using it.

Most important question, "can you pet the demon doggo?"

I would sell a toe in order to play the original campaign maps in game 3 to play the old world with the new warhammer 3 changes would be so much fun. I do also hope they re-add the scout ruins but maybe just have random events happen almost like a dnd thing.

"Oh I'll just watch this quick Patch Note video", 2 hours later...

Who left this on as they downloaded the patch? :)

I still think CA is shooting for 08/08 for the khorne dlc launch

I respect this patch, even if I'm not into MP. It seems to be a chunky drop of content for that scene, which is nice, but to otherwise be focused on UI, UX, and readability fixes, which I love. Reminds me of the Potion of Speed patch back in WH2, where they released less FLC than expected, but focused their efforts on big QoL improvements that were super worth it.

Now to see them code conditions into campaign map battles. Domination should be the default for river crossing and bridge battles. And they could totally sell DLC mini-campaigns. Imagine one set on the empire but focusing on Vlad's attempt to conquer the empire, or a campaign where grimgor frees all the greenskin slaves from the chaos dwarves.

Greasus should be twice his current size xD in lore he just gulped a tyrant and his current tummy clearly can't hold a full tyrant.

RIP my hochland scope engineers. we had a good run, but fun never lasts forever.

I've been asking for the dropdown menu all the missing minor factions added for custom battles forever, so I'm definitely happy!! The minor factions I mostly hope they added are Karak Izor for Dwarfs, Dervingard Garrison & Kislev Expedition for Kislev, Necksnappers & Gloomy Woodz for Greenskins and lastly Great Eagle Tribe for Tzeentch.

Multiple lord's can be attached to the army now ?

So happy the multiplayer community if finally getting a some love in game 3

So overall, the bolter thrower got a ~50% increase in damage against small targets, and a ~150% increase against large tagets. 😳

Bad Dog Good. Take a bite outa order tide?

ca should also change the size of the high elves dragons to mach the lore better

This looks like a really good sign for game health. Thrones returned a lot of hope to the community but after all that's happened that hope was still tenuous. This and the next DLC announcement though both seem to be strong signals of follow through. All of these improvements people have been asking for for so long. A ton of nice tweaks and rebalances. The fact that they are allowing the cmunity to dictate what they want by leaning on popular mods who have done a lot of the heavy lifting for them, and then properly crediting those modders. All of this really feels like a genuine and good faith effort to mend the bridges burned. Good on CA.

How about Transformation of Kadon overcast giving you an Elemental of Beasts?

did they ever fix the Norscan vassal issue for Champions of Chaos yet?

Well I got Karnak but he won't do anything. He won't join an army or attack an enemy army, character or location. Anyone else having this problem?

Ah yeah! Early birthday present! Too bad I’m playing Elden Ring and have mandatory overtime at work. Dx

Thanks for the video

You are the only one who loved the puzzles of the old ones in WH2^^

Best update we've seen in a long time. Can't wait for when they start implementing domination and free for all in the campaign as well. These are the kind of updates I want to see, quality of life updates not just unnecessary content spams.

Would be a lot of work on their end, but I wonder if they could implement a draggable bar for items, banners and defeat traits. I hear a lot of talk about how weak and pointless these can be, but then when CA come out with something powerful, it tends to have what feels like the opposite reaction that they probably expect. Granted yes Tamurkhans defeat trait when viewed along side most of the others looks a tad OP, so maybe it is time they try to give a bar that allows the player to really crank up items, banners and defeat traits if they like, or keep them normal where they have far less impact in your game.

I hear that as someone also from Texas the heat is murder

Which of the chaos heroes can Archaon not get?

Based on these wood elf changes it's time for the Wild Hunt!

Yet the Age of Reckoning gauge is still not fixed.

Still waiting for them to fix sync kills

A nice patch. I am not quite sure about Vlad, but most things here do make sense to me.

Well, dwarfs had something nice for a while at least. Doesn't surprise me those elgi lovers.....

If ruins are occupied but the faction occupying hasn't built the first tier of settlement building they should be able to hide within them, maybe using ambush stance. Scouting ruins would become important to check for hidden armies before marching closer and yes bring back empty scout ruin events. High corruption in area could give a chance ruins to become infested with a small rebel faction hidden within. It would buff the skaven in MP campaigns making it way harder to predict what they occupy. Also I would love some different faction encounters when searching islands, Vampire pirates over and over gets so boring.

happy for the 3 people who play multiplayer haha... no seriously good changes

Overall a very welcome patch but man oh man did they do Vlad and Malus dirty. And talk about overnerf on the Tamurkhan trait. Went from best in the game to "actively avoid", djeez. Middle groud would have been nice!

Finally, someone outside of CA that hates realistic battles. I finally have some reasons that all of their tournaments are those garbage Zone capturing things! I absolutely disagree with them, but now I know what they are. 😅 I personally find the three zone mini game boring. I think the point of battle simulators is to realistically simulate battle, where a general can and should take any advantage. I have never been able to sit through a Total Warhammer 3 tournament, Every battle turns out identical. I swear the only advantage is keeping the battles short, so they can do them live. But CA already gave up on trying to host the battles live because there were always technical difficulties, so participants play them out on their own time and send in the save. CA has given us an amazing grand strategy campaign and battle simulator, but has yet to host a tournament for either of them.

I remember it wasn't that long ago people were talking about Warhammer III being dead. Honestly on the internet people are just constantly hyperbolic, I'm at the point now where I think it's not worth believing anything you hear on the internet, it's the hub of misinformation.

maybe too many nerfs...this patch doesn't really make me excited for much. I like that they're finally giving us something though.

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Wooooo FJB

> Nerf Tamurkhan (defeat trait and himself) > Nerf Vlad > Nerf Hochland Scopes for the Empire WOW THAT SO MUCH MORE FUN NOW GUYS!

Karanak should have been a lord! Summon the elector fishmen to get revenge!

Sorry but the thunderbarge nerf and dwarf warrior recruitment changes are terrible.

Insanely huge patch but.... Some nerfs and some buffs really are unnecessary/random af and will just ruin the overall experience. Saytang for example got literally deleted to the ground. Imagine CA destroying (he literally will be trash af after nerfs) a DLC LH just because in a mp mode THAT WILL BE REMOVED from the game he was actually shining (because too many units were easy to abuse due to box camp.) It's sad. The official/real competitive mode is dominion anyway, where Saytang/cathay struggle and barely have 50% wr. Almost nobody pick him because too hard to get his 2600gold value back. You can't destroy and delete a unit from the game just because it was shining in a mode that will not even be a mode anymore. It's pointless and completely unlogical. At this point just separate SP and MP, and actually nerf/buff things based on actual competitive avg wr% of every faction (*COUGH COUGH Kislev still dominating with 70%+ wr since fkng ages) and not target units just because they're good in a single mode (that will be removed anyway so completely pointless). Idk, this is just wrong.

if you care for competitive mp, the new mode is as bad and cheesable as normal land battles. it also changes the meta completly to Dom meta because you are forced to rush to dance on poles. worst change since not including land battles on release.....and we all know where that was going. making the same mistake again is so dumb. why not just keeping the old modes and add a 3rd one? that wouldn't be a spit in the face for loyal lb lovers. there are enough players out there who like playing Land Battles as a core concept from TT. if you wanna play with objectives - we already have Domination.

I hate that their response is just make it weaker…