Predictions for the Skull Throne! Talking Khorne DLC Legendary/Generic Characters, Units, and More! 

My prediction is there will be blood for the blood god and skulls for the skull throne

The Legendary Lord will be Ka'Bandha and he will have a trait called "Enrages Loremasters" 😁

This makes me think Khorne has a stable of Fleshhounds where he cares for them and plays with them after a day in the skull throne

Priests of blood: "There`s no magic here, go aside!"=)

Considering that Khorne was originally a somewhat technology based faction they could also do some form of engineer type characters. Alternativey - beastmen characters are perfectly fine.

Speaking about Valkyries, I think having them for Norsca would be awesome, with a Spear and shield infantry, a pegasus riding unit, and a melee hero.

i hope this DLC shows a heap of love to all the factions and helps modernise them as well, its nice to have a bit of renewed faith in CA and the work they're doing for the DLCs and game in general.

47:38 I agree with your reasoning, but in that case the Preyton would make more sense in a Slaanesh DLC, specially since Slaanesh lacks a flying unit.

I mean Bloodfathers and Bloodspeakers existed in WFRP. So im sure they can be in the game.

11:30 Sooooo and am I the only one that can only see Scyla in ankle warmers in these pictures and can't take him seriously now

The juggernaut chariot could be called the blood spiller and has something like the great unclean one slime trail but its boiling blood

With the Chaos factions I do hope they get 3 LL each. Which would mean they have to back to tzeentch and egrimm van horstmaan. No need for extra units, just the lord

As long as khorne lives loves and laughs

Our lore master in khorne armor is hilarious 😂. Nice thumbnail

I very much hope we get a cultist/priest type lord/hero, khorne would really appreciate a pure support type character who isnt the best melee fighter but has amazing buffs and debuffs to help them chew through tougher targets.

A fun lord option I’ve seen suggested before was a Chaos Beastmaster. It could be an interesting way of getting around adding a support lord for Khorne, without stepping too far into AoS territory. It’d also give the player a way to build unique Khornate armies around units like the Chaos War Hounds, Flesh Hounds, and some of the other beast themed units being added to the roster. It’d be really fun to run a Flesh Hound heavy army, and it’d be very thematic for an Arbaal dlc!

I really hope that CA give the Monos the ability to confederate the marked Warriors of Chaos LL or in some way recruit them, it would add so much to the Monos to be able to access these characters!

@Loremaster of Sotek think Khornegors with throwing axes could be a possibility? Ok in melee but add some ranged flaming missiles like the norscan hunters ?

I wouldnt mind if they did someghing similar to the modded version of Arbaal from IEE. He gets spawned if he breaks in battle but comes back for the next, and gets a bunch of campaign negatives

On the note of the Shield Maiden concept, I could potentially see that as another generic hero option, like a Khornate equivalent of the Handmaidens of the Everqueen, if they don't go down the Priest route.

Hot take. If Arbaal gets slain, then an entire Khornate Chaos Spawn regiment appears in where he was slain. In case of Khornate Priests, they can use Bloodfathers. They are the seers of Khorne who have immense tactical and strategic acumen combined with absurdly high melee skills. They could use that one along with creating a hero version (like a Gore Vitki and such) and give the two the same abilities the Cultist of Khorne was supposed to have originally or give them a mix of prayer and rune-based abilities making them very versatile on top of being really great fighters. But then the Khorne Lords and Exalted Heroes would need some tuning along with the Khornate Daemon Prince to make them still viable sot that people wouldn't choose the Bloodfathers and their hero versions exclusively. Edit: But in all honesty, Khorne Priests DO exist in Warhammer Fantasy.

I think that Skinwolves of Khorne could be neat. I'm not sure how much lore justification they have, but thematically a Wolf-man surrendering to it's inner bestial ferocity seems pretty Khornish.

Oh yeah, Slaughterbrute also had 8 swords embedded on his back

"Blood seems to be the naming convention" is an understatement for Khorne

I really hope GW lets CA use the Wrathmongers and Slullreapers

I'd be totally behind the Character/Lord packs idea near the end of the video. A lot of factions have most of their rosters but more lords and characters are never a bad thing.

Preyton is an interesting suggestion, and would be a nice little bonus for the Beastmen too. I could also see that (and/or the Flayerkin) coming up in Slaanesh's DLC if not here.

As a fan of the Brunner the Bounty Hunter books, I'd like to propose a dark horse candidate for basically any part of this DLC, but particularly for the Lord and/or Hero slot: The Mardagg. The books sort of imply there is only one Mardagg, but it is vague enough that it could be adapted that there are multiple Mardaggs and I think would be a cool design for a general or hero. A 10 foot tall, crimson, spectral grim reaper gliding around the battlefield killing with a scythe made out of its own blood and causing enemy troops to frenzy or disintigrate would not go amiss as far as I am concerned. Even Archaon didn't want to tangle with The Mardagg. ETA: Now that I think of it, the bit about Archaon observing the fortress of the Mardagg in the Southern Wastes would provide a good start point for a Khorne FLC lord if they went that route

I like the idea of Preytons being slaanesh monsters especially with the wood elf connection and the pleasure from pain, not to mention the twisted beauty of there current forms

just casually dropping a line like, "i want milk with those khorne flakes," is what elevates LMofS above the rest

As much as I do want the Preyton I feel it fits Slaanesh a bit more due to being a creature of Beauty, a Great Stag, Twisted into a Horrible Monstrosity. Though I can see how it’s Savagery would also make it a decent fit for Khorne. I’d save it for the Slaanesh LP and add the Shield Maidens or Chimera instead.

I hope that GW let CA use the Slaughterpriest for upcoming DLC

No Mention of Michael from Vsauce as the legendary hero? 🎶Khorne dog Willy was a friend of mine🎶 Cat named Khorne He even has the hair and beard for it!

it would be funny if Arbold had a mechanic where if he died on the battle field he would turn into a giant Chaos Spawn with decaying health, and he would just come back as normal from being wounded afterwards.

All ideas sound really good

Excited for khorne, the slaughterbrute is something I've been wanting for years

I would like to see a gorebeast herd for the roster. It's something I'm surprised wasn't been made before and I think lots of fun animations could be added

Bloodthunder Chariot (ripped from the Skullmaster's Bloodthunder Stampede ability in AoS)

@8:00 there's a mod for Arbaal the Undefeated where he can turn into chaos spawn and regen his health to max, but gains substantial negatives on campaign map if that happens or if he loses

I think you're on the right track with the heroes and lords, I think the warrior priest and arch lector would be perfect to add to Khorne's roster. The other option is to tool a secondary anti-large hero/lord.

52:42 passive ability that removes contempt / expandable trait & -10 leadership for 15 sec with 30 sec cooldown, recharge when in combat

Khorne does need something to give a supporting role. Just as a gameplay balance perspective. Valkia gets to use Fire Magic in her faction, even just getting that would be fine. Priests would be great, or some sort of banner/icon type characters.

My thought for how Arbaal could work is pretty simple if a little uninspired maybe: Campaign - His armies gain benefits from continuous victories, on top of the Khorne Race specific bonuses, his armies becomes more and more buffed (capped probably) with each victory, with maybe Arbaal's personal army having a much bigger buff. Losing/Retreating from battles gives you Chaos Spawn, (perhaps Flayerkin if they're added), (Maybe Greater Chaos Spawn if they're added too) and Forsaken that can be recruited at a cheaper cost in place of damaged units(perhaps keeping their exp as well). Lord - Arbaal himself would be an unbreakable duelist but, if he is defeated, then somewhat like Malus he is turned into a crazed chaos spawn (hoping for unique model) that fights until his dead again. If he wins the battle at the end, then he'd be back to his human form but debilitated (with following victories that he participates recovering his strength). If he loses even as a Chaos Spawn he remains in a "wounded state" as normal however you gain a legendary hero as him as a Chaos Spawn until the wound state ends, then it goes back to the state he's in in case of a victory as a spawn.

Khorngors, Slaughterbrute, Wrathmongers (Function as Aspiring Champions, but for Khorne) and 3 variants of Skullreapers are my guesses for the 5 units for Khorne, and I think/hope they are going for the Slaughterpriest type character for Lord and Hero choices.

I dont want to be too greedy, but like you mentioned, I do hope we will get Valnir the Reaper not too far in the future, since Khorne too will now definitly have 2 legendary heroes. Or at least add a legendary hero for Slaanesh first.

I think the 1 Greater Daemon, 1 Lesser Daemon and 1 Mortal LL for each mono god faction is a very good goal and so I hope that Egrimm will be added as an FLC LL for Tzeentch (I would have preferred Aeckold but he's already a LH). Also I think either dual axe Khornigors with Anti-infantry or AP throwing axes could both be good options.

So a bit of context regarding some of the khorngor and Scylla art. There is a setting called bloodbowl where warhammer races play violent sports instead of war and those two are playable in that game. Regarding ET stuff I do think they are a grey area as we already have stuff that was ET exclusive particularly in the HE part of Warden and the Paunch. Regarding the Khornate priests while Bloodfathers and Bloodseers have been mentioned and I do think that if CA goes the full priest route interms of abilities they would be great but I don't know if they have priest abilities mentioned in their lore or stats.

my first model and favourite model was arbaal...love him soo much

Thinking a little out side the box for lords/heroes, Maurader Chiefs that ride flesh hounds leaning much more into the (Kharnath) hunter style, can even give them ranged weapons and being added over to the norscan roster. As well as it would lean in to Arbaal. As for possible units and where Arbaals time frame comes from im gona thrown in things that were part of the lore during his time, The great cannons of Khorne, and The Brass Scorpion (even bigger Soul grinder in essence) With the Priest styled lord/hero, Warhammer chaos bane has some interesting blood "magic" effects when fighting khornate champions

Alternate LH or FLC choice: Skarr Bloodwrath and his dudes

Arbaal is a character I have wanted from the time of pre-ordering the first game in 2015. I really hope he is it. Khorne needs a mortal LL AND a mounted one. Most of Khornes guys are on foot. I only know of one other mounted one (Vorgoroth) and he was never playable in the Old World setting on TT (though he WAS mentioned in books) and he was I think a half-Ogre on a massive red khornate dragon.... Speaking of which, I hope CA takes this opportunity to fill out the mount selections on generic Chaos Lords and Heroes. These are factions that don't get either magic or ranged or both (hardly anyways) They NEED their Chaos dragons and manticores for marked characters (who get them in the book). Not only does not having them limit strategies even moreso, but its lore breaking and shatters immersion for a chaos character to get marked and suddenly lose access to a monster that supposedly he broke to his will in a life or death struggle and bonded with it in an unholy alliance. Fix it, CA! I also suspect that the chimera might be with Khorne, and the giant spined beast will come when they do Slaanesh. But maybe I am biased (I had a Khorne Lord on a Chimera when I played TT LOL).

I think a really cool idea for the spined chaos beast would be regen and a mortis engine which damages itself

Making Khorngors similar to slayers(Horse hewers) from Attilia. High Anti large but no charge resistance as you mentioned. Fast moving anti large would fit both Beastmen and Khorne. In a perfect world though, I would want two variants of Khorngor, one anti large, one anti infantry dual wield infantry.

I want Aspring champions of khorne 1000% with that valkia idea. 3 monsters would be too much ill take two and the valkia unit you spoke about.

Skulltaker would be cool to have a mechanic similar to Oxy(the skink) or clan Eshin. Until he can pop up wipe fight an army with a specific lord or hero and poof out afterwards.

I just started playing TW3 a week ago. Loving Valkia's campaign and character. But her roster feels very samey. Marauders dual axe spam... Do you think this update will come with some units for Valkia too that aren't available only through gifts? Speaking of gifts, I havent been able to find this answer anywhere. When I played Valkia I could hire at most 8 gift units. Is there a way to increase the 8 unit cap?

To go crazy it may be cool to get some kind of engineer hero or something with some khorne gunpowder

An alternative to the Prayton/ Spined Beast could be the Giant Chaos Spawn? It'd fit the mindless brutality theme and I do love that model.

The free lord slot here is partially the reason why I didn’t want Khorne & the Ogres in the same pack, and that’s because they both need a free lord. Khorne needs its mortal and lesser daemon & the Ogres deserves two more lords in addition to their LH.

do you think dwarfs should get one "big monster"? shard dragon or rune golem? im very mixed about them, i think i'd be okay if they had a faction limit of like 1 per dwarf faction

Thank ye Loremasta.

Regarding the slaughter brute. Stuff can be tied to your lord dying in battle. There is the lord died army wide penalty. And there is the skaven chieftain's ability Power Grab. So I think Slaughter brute could have high stats and then if your lord dies, it rampages and has lower stats. Also maybe the Peyton could get a movement debuff when near enemy routing units.

Great list! Tbh I think the preyton would fit better for slaanesh. I think chaos ogres of khorne would be a perfect 5th unit tbh. Bloodcursed would also be a nice addition

"Shamans of Khorne" could also be a gentic option for lord legendary for khorne , along side "Doombulls of Khorne" for generic hero option. But hopefully we could get blood preist as well. As far as Units are concern "Reavers of khorne" ( as a cheaper inf option for khorne) " or "shield Maidens of khrone", “Slaughterbrute”, “Bloodbeast of Khorne“, skullcrusher Chariots of khrone " ( pull by 2 skull Crusher's), and “Khorngors” ( with throwing axes. Glad im not the only one who thought of this) . Ror: “Red Reavers” ,“ The Bloodshields” , and "Hounds of Khoros" Could be something that ca chose instead. As for the non khorne specific units you prodicted. I rather have them for chaos faction. Than for khorne. Since were likely never to get a khorne dlc again. I just want 2 all the khorne related stuff for this one.

3:58 Originally from the 4E Chaos armybook actually.

Preyton !yes please. My favorite Warhammer creature.

Does Valnir have potential as a future Nurgle LL? Or do you think he could only fill the role of a LH?

Maybe a Wargore of Khorne as a hero that can have the chariot pulled by the Juggernauts as a mount.

From multiplayer perspective it doesn't look like the khorne additions are going to be that valuable tactically, at least in land battles. Khorne could use more missile pressure tools and light cavalry, but it seems like it'll be more single entities and melee infantry which they already got covered. Not to say that any of these won't be used if they get added, but they'd basically be filling the same niches the existing units already cover. Something like khorne variants of norscan hunters would do more than yet another anti-infantry melee unit in addition to the dual axe mortals and bloodletters.

I want to see shamen or priest of khorne, support units with built in support abilities. I think they are going to have two basic units that are going to variants on existing units, a chariot. Honestly I think khorne needs more ranged units. But slaughter brute is probably a lock.

I like the ideas of Doombulls and Gorbulls get a khornate treatment and potentially making Taurox more unique by giving only him access to them along with the minotaurs of khorne variants as well.

i mean tzeench has the vortex beast nurgle the toad dragons its makes sense for khorne to have the slaughterbrute

Khornegor's would be a great addition to the roster if they were anti-large. Khorne's only options for anti-large are all *very* expensive. Having a cheap halberd unit would help so much!

It would feel so weird to not have the khorne guys with the chain axes given they've just made animations for chain axes with the doomseekers

I think they will be a Beastmen DLC, Prayton and Giant Spined Chaos Beast seems a very Wood Elf/ Bretonnia/ Beastmen DLC. Then they could do an "Archaon's Lieutenants" DLC adding in the reskins for the Giant Spined Chaos Beast. Khorngors is going to be interesting and could give them as FLC. Also: Mardagg "Death Elemental", Summon anyone?

I’m so damn hype for this dlc!!!!!!

I was under the impression that Wrathmongers and Skullreapers were End Times units (As I bought some with the square bases before AoS). Are they not?

Cool video!🎉

The biggest issue I have with Arbbal is that I am very much defeated, I don't think I can maintain his undefeated title. lmfao

Perhaps the Bloodletter chariot could be a Bloodhunter based on the unit champion of Bloodcrushers

Bloodrender Chariot

Honestly, when you said Khornes generic characters could be tough, all i could think was Doombull and Gorebull of Khorne 😅

I definitely think the preyton would fit perfectly in a slaanesh DLC, but for Khorne I really wanna see the chaos siege giant. It’s missing from the ChD roster like a soar thumb.

“Not being insanely long” drops a video almost an hour long. I’d hate to see what insanely long comes in at 😂😂

Having shieldmaidens of khorne as the New lord and or hero choices would be awesome. All of the generic Chaos characters are male id love some female representation

I propose "Blood Scythes" for the charriots. Or I would, if there wasn't already a Space Marine chapter named that. Because of course there is.

What about the possibility they do Beastfiends as a generic lord or hero? I know they were once a thing in the earlier editions, could CA take ideas to create a beastfiend lord or hero?

I'd say Abrax The Bloody has a chance too. Though I'd see it as an absolute win with either. I also really feel, thematic or not, at least one if not 2 ranged units will be added. Thematic or not more infantry ontop of more infantry does nothing to make khorne as a faction more interesting or help them in performance unless they're also getting an update to give them a bunch of army abilities. They really are just a one trick pony and if they are going to stay that way they need to be undisputedly the best at it, which they aren't currently.

Name for the Chariots of Khorne? Sure. How about: "Not another damn chariot. Ugh."? That sounds appropriate to me! Preyton sounds better to me, though. Good idea. Also, the picture for the Khorngor seems to be the most likely addition: dual hand weapons.

Here are my thoughts about the DLC: I really hope for a priest type hero, who would essentially invoke the fury of Khorne to smite the enemy and bolster the allies. Than maybe some sort of "lead by example" kind of lord, who starts to buff units around him when in combat and possessing a demoralizing and/or debuffing ability. About the Khornegors I think just the dual welding variant, the spear variant and some ranged attacker is missing. Personally I prefer a hybrid unit, that fights with and throws spears. A fighty ranged unit seems Khornate to me. The Slaangors can for all I care use shortsword and dirk or what ever. Lastly the Preyton(?) if I understand correctly it's a corrupted stag. Therefore I advocate for a Vargheist/hippogryph type of unit, being able to fly and terrify enemies on mass.

Is it possible CA may forego the generic Lord and Hero for Khorne and instead give them to the GS since they are lacking a lot of generic options? Seems you have to really dig to get decent options for Khorne.

I'm thinking about Daemon Engine. Compare to other, Khorne seem to employ a lot of daemonic engine in his army. From Juggernaut to Blood Throne, to Skull Cannon. Compare to toher which mostly stop at the Soul Grinder. Since Khorne doesn't use magic, maybe he could replace them with bunc hof Daemon engine units instead? Of course no need to be on the level of 40K.

I feel like the preyton, likely will be excellent for slaanesh as it gets so much pleasure from its own pain. (Really on brand for the dark prince.)

I hope CA goes hard and gives us the most violent DLC yet! Arbaal for Khorne, Morglum Necksnapper for the orcs and Braugh Slavelord for the Ogres, we need rage, violence and cannibalism on an epic scale!

Its just sad that the great spiked beast is very Nurgle coated. It's green, covered in boils. Idk about this one for Khorne Edit: The relationship between pain and pleasure of the preyton makes it the perfect big monster for a possible slaanesh DLC

I hope that if they do Arbaal they go with the original John Blanche artwork where he has a dragon sized flesh hound, rather than the sculpt/Mark Gibbons artwork where it's about horse sized. A dude riding a flesh hound that big would be really unique.

I don’t think khorne will get the spined chaos beast, because it’s definitely closer to nurgle with the regen and I don’t think khorne needs a regen unit. I don’t know about the preyton either, because I feel like it’s just not specific enough for khorne. I think the flayerkin is a good idea, I think shieldmaidens are a good idea, blood chariots are cool, slaughterbrute is guaranteed, and I think Minotaur lord and hero are a pretty good bet. I’d love to see the siege giant, but I just don’t think it makes sense to have two large centerpiece monsters to a single factions dlc.

The axe should give hefty combat bonus while leadership is above a threshold, but as soon as it drops below that he gets debuff. How about that?

I really really hope, no matter how unlikely it cold be, that we actually get Vorgaroth the Scarred as the Legendary Lord. I know he released in AoS, but he was planned to be the Khornate borther of Tamurkhan. It would be incredibly epic if we did get him.

Agree with the priests. This is what they SHOULD do, as like you have said AOS made chaos armies more vibrant and woth flavour (like archers in slannesh), bur GW is so stupid they will not allow it. I am still worried about my duardin CoS army and that it will get swuated :( Imo they will have to make some khorne beastmen as lords and heroes, because we have all else