Karen Makes the Neighborhood Kids CRY 

The classic teacher logic of "if someone hits you, you shouldn't hit them back" is one of the reasons schools have such a major bullying problem. School faculty plays a big role in perpetuating the problem, both by punishing the victim the same as the aggressor, and by deliberately turning a blind eye to bullying. It's true that they can't see everything, but the teacher was able to recount the entire sequence of events from the stilts to the new toy to the pushing incident. So it was definitely witnessed, and they chose not to intervene. The idea that self-defense has to take place in the precise moment you are being attacked in order for it to be valid self-defense doesn't take into account the unique nature of school bullying and the captive environment it takes place in. In middle school, I got sucker punched in the hallway. A teacher witnessed it, and therefore I got suspended for "fighting" even though I didn't do anything.

There was a boy in high school that liked to bully girls. He would walk behind you and then kick your feet out from under you. One day he did it to me, the first time he did it I asked him to stop, he laughed and as I walked away he did it again. I fell, got up and hit him with my umbrella. He started screaming and calling me names. A couple of kids saw what happened and started laughing at him, especially the boys because he got put in his place by a girl. Did I get in trouble, nope the teacher in front of the class it happened told him I hope you learned your lesson. Getting up and protecting yourself is not retaliation, it is standing up for yourself so that the bully knows you are not going to stand for such behaviour. (I grew up in the 90’s, things were different back then)

Apple 1 - The little girl is 3 and the little boy is 4. While this could of course be an actually age difference of one month, it’s also likely that it is an (almost) one year age difference. That is a huge difference at the age in terms of expected maturity, ability to express themselves and manage emotions, impulse control, etc. Of course talking in general terms as children develop at different rates. If the 3 year old is expected to know not to push others, the same and more should be expected of the 4 years old.

For the first story I have nine words: don’t👏dish👏it👏out👏if👏you👏can’t👏take👏it👏

Regarding story 1: I would absolutely consider what she did to be self-defense. This boy had pushed her multiple times and nothing had been done. If she didn't stand up for herself, he would have done it again, and she may have been really hurt the next time. I say this as someone who was pushed off the monkey bars at recess when I was in kindergarten, broke my back, and have had to live every second of my life in constant, incurable pain ever since.

In the house with the servants story, it really sounds like OP was uncomfortable with having people serve them and then projected that onto the staff. It is perfectly within the rights of the employer to let the employee know how they would like things done. It doesn't sound like the family was ever rude to the people. Even the daughter didn't rush in and start yelling at the kitchen staff. She let her mom know that she felt like they were ignoring a guest and making them do it themselves. If the mom was a good employer she probably would ask the kitchen staff what happened and if they told her the guest insisted on doing it themself that would have probably been the end of it.

I feel #1 is good apple. OP's reaction actually makes sense, it's the logic of 'If someone hits you, you don't hit them back." which makes bullying... exist. Self Defense, may not be defending yourself in the moment, but also defending yourself to a state of which you and others are safe, so them 'attacking' back would still be considered self defense, as she is prohibiting the attack from reoccurring.

For story #1, as a person who has been a daycare teacher nearly a decade, I can say that I don’t blame the mom for getting mad and reacting the way she did, and while it had not been the right thing for the daughter to do, I wouldn’t completely rule it out as self defense in the mind of a three year old who had already used her words multiple times, and was physically attacked. I would certainly not want to be shouted at as a teacher, but the teacher was in the wrong for a few reasons. First, the mom should not have been brought in because “the daughter displayed violence towards another child in her class,” the conversation should have been, “there was an incident today,” explained the incident, then said, “we did talk to the other child, and that is being handled separately, we also let your daughter know that she should not have pushed him down in response. I understand that it felt like a reasonable response in that moment, especially given her age, it is not uncommon. She did a wonderful job using her words, which we let her know too, and we also reminded her that she needs to come to an adult for help before trying to physically handle something like that herself. I would love it if you also remind her that she should try to get help from a trustworthy adult before responding physically to situations, because we are here to help.” The adults should have been watching better, but I also know how quickly things like that can all occur, but given how it sounds like it was an extended incident, it should have been caught sooner than the point when the little boy hit his head. Ratios for kids of that age would not be 30 kids and one adult, it would be, at most 24 kids with two adults, which is still a lot of kids, but that is the highest ratio that I have seen. I understand that the kid was not technically acting in self defense, I would count it as reasonable enough as self defense given the whole situation and the age of the child. The mom was basically told that her child was being violent, when that is not what that situation was. The teacher did not handle that well, and so the mom being upset with the teacher and losing her temper because the situation was being handled incorrectly is not fully out of line. I think that crab apple might be okay because if she is questioning her behavior it probably means she was pretty harsh, and as a teacher I can imagine it, but also as a teacher I am unhappy with how that teacher treated the situation. So, I will accept the mom as a crab apple, but the teacher is a bad apple. Edit to add: I am not claiming that it is self defense, but that there are so many other things going on, that the distinction between that is blurry enough to not be the deciding factor here, and that the daughter did act in a way that was developmentally normal. Additionally, I am also a 28 year old who does not have kids, but for me it is a plan within the next couple of years. I recognize that people who don’t have experience with early childhood development and daycare settings, it could be viewed very differently. That is just my branch of the apple tree that I wanted to share.

Story 3: Supporting a spouse's dream reasonably is VERY different than your spouse out of the blue, deciding to switch careers, expecting you to switch careers, threatening you, and making you sell their stuff to friends. This partner is narcissistic and dangerous. Threatening to take control of all finances is abusive.

I think the second story is a crab apple- his heart was in the right place, and he clearly wasn't raised around that. He didn't know how anything worked and thought they were being treated poorly. He wasn't right, but his intentions were good-hearted. So yeah- crab apple.

Candle maker doesn't have the right to tell his spouse she needs to quit her job and give up her career so she can work for him, end of story. This is just as big a red flag as threatening to take all her money if she doesn't obey.

Story 3: good apple. While I agree that spousal support is really important, this is the husband’s dream not hers. Supporting him shouldn’t come at the cost of her having to give up what she wants

Story 3: start having separate accounts, if you don’t already have them, in case he follows through with his threat of taking all the money.

For first story, I feel like elementary schools always grill the golden rule but when it’s actually put into place, you get in trouble.

For story #2, I’d say crab apple because we’re not quite sure how the family might have been “correcting” the staff. We’re not sure if the family were politely correcting the staff or if they were screaming at them. I feel that we just don’t have enough information about how the family was treating the staff

Story #1: There was so much detail about the incident, down to exactly what OP's daughter was saying to the boy. Was that from a debrief between the girl and a teacher before the mom was called, or was that from the adults supervising during the time of the incident? Because if it is the latter, the fact that they watched all that go down and didn't intervene to tell the boy to wait his turn and/or redirect him somewhere else is way more of the problem. While I also believe that violence should never be the answer, I find that it ring so hollow when coming out of the mouths of school employees to or about the victims of bullying. Victims of bullying do not use violence as a first resort (generally), but if that girl is within view of teachers who are doing nothing to help her, what other choices does she have?

#1 - These are preschool-age children. There is a limit to the number of children that a teacher can have in their control. In my state, the limit for a mixed group of 3-5-year-olds, the limit is 12-14. When an incident report is filled out, they actually didn't have to include the girl putting him down. The INCIDENT (him hitting his head) had nothing to do with the girl. They could have said "Jimmy was getting up off the ground and he hit his head on ...." Mom was still a crabapple for yelling at the teachers, because she should have had the self-control to talk to them rationally.

Story 1: if the boy was walking away, then it was retaliation. If the boy was still standing there, then it was self defense because there was still risk the boy continuing the physical situation

I got three good apples and one bad apple. 1: Good apple. Good job mom for standing up for your kid. There is such a problem with bullying, and I think that little girl had a right to push the boy since the teachers didn’t step in. 2. Bad apple. He was uncomfortable and probably going through culture shock, and he projected that onto his girlfriend and her family. If he had just said he was uncomfortable I would go crab, but because he was trying to “call them out” for “being rude”, he’s the bad apple. 3. Good apple. Red flags all over the place my girl, threatening to take the money and file for divorce, expecting you to quit your job to help him, trying to make you force his candles down people’s throats, yikes. 4. Good apple. Those neighbors are so entitled! You didn’t make their kids cry, THEY made their kids cry.

Story #2 - I feel like this story is a just an example of coming from differing types of etiquette. I think the OP just didn't understand what kind of household he was entering or how to interact/not interact with the staff, which is understandable, but something he could have easily adjusted to. If I was the OP, I probably would have found the behavior to the staff a little strange, but not a matter to criticize the girlfriend over.

Oh my gosh, that last story! If you're not invited to a private event, DON'T invite yourself to said private event! The parents did just that and then got upset because THEY broke the rules!

Story 1: you could be right that it was not self defense, but I would argue that it was pre-emptive self defense. She might have been scared that he could continue to hurt her, so she defended herself by acting first. Martial arts classes typically do a great job in explaining to kids right from wrong, so personally I’d be proud if my daughter protected herself like she did.

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I just wanted to say about story 3, I do agree with spousal support in whatever they want to do, but not when your spouse is threatening divorce if you don't support them to your absolute fullest. I don't feel like that's fair, especially when your spouse wants you to quit a job you love (which is them not supporting your dreams and happiness) to help them instead.

Timestamps: 00:00 intro 01:20 apple #1 🍏🍎 10:35 apple #2 🍎🍏 17:40 apple #3 🍏🍎 26:40 apple #4🍎🍏 30:30 outro happy national orchid day and wear your pajamas to work day!! ur so beautiful and deserve some flowers today!! 💐🌹🌻🌷

Story 2: I understand Op. I don't have anyone to sever me but myself. I'm not saying Op is the good apple, he is very much crab. I get that seeing someone else doing the work for you makes you feel guilty in not helping. He should've talked to his girlfriend about his feelings towards basically being thrown into a new world. I am the type of person that is "if I can help, I will" and I think OP is the same way. Again he's crab not bad.

Sorry, but when I was a kid at school and in high school that been in situations with CMS kids with A.D.D and A.D.H.D often got gaslighted and blamed for the problem they were the victims in even with proof still got punished, and our bullies walked off happy and freely. they chose us because we are an easy target I hope this child isn't a person of color to then it gets worse for them. it might not be self-defense but what her daughter did is a reaction of being mistreated. which should be looked into and not just brushed off. I am not saying that's what happen, but it sounds pretty dang close.

For story 2- I'd go crab apple just because it was trying to defend someone who didn't need defending. It wasn't really shown that he went to say to his girlfriend that this lifestyle was different from what he's used to and he doesn't know how to navigate. It wasn't like asking politely to the staff for help and let them know this uncustomary to you so they can tell you what would make it easiest for them. It also is like, I didn't see anything entitled, the workers were doing what they were hired to do. I didn't hear or get the feel that they were berating or doing anything harsh to them. Like being nit picky or something, but no, they kept to themselves. I think you need to give them some grace and be open minded.

The 3rd apples husband sounds more like he is in a mlm. Selling to friends and fam rather then the public. Like go to festivals and shit.

Story #4 - If it was just the first half of this story, I would have just said crab apple. So a few neighborhood kids showed up uninvited; I personally would have let them have a few cupcakes and not thrown them out. That's the way kids are in the suburbs, and sometimes it leads to how they end up making friends for the first time. But the second half of the story, when the parents showed up acting entitled despite not being invited, that's where the OP gained my sympathy. Good apple all the way.

Story 1- good apple. Story 2- crab apple story 3- good apple story 4- good apple

I got alot of mixed optinions on story one. So I found the OG post. Seems like OP's daughter is being mistreated by teachers. The teachers nit pick when she's a few minutes late. And got put in a corner when another child was touching her hair repeatedly and wouldn't stop until she shouted. I really wanna say good apple. No it's not necessarily self defense. But there is blatant sexisim going on in this situation and that little girl had every right to retaliate. OP also went on to say as far as she knows, nothing was said to the boys parents. She asked but they couldnt tell her. This is in the UK not America, as well. When I was about six or seven, I was getting bullied by much older, much larger boys. I was never taught retaliating to violence with violence was ok. I hid under my seat crying while they kicked, punched and yanked my WIAST LONG HAIR. I told my parents, they went to the school, the school didn't care. Wrote it off as playful bullying. Even when I had a handprint on my cheek. I got pulled out of school. I also learned how to fight. Don't start something. But you can finish it. OP said she quoted the arisocats for her daughter "Ladies do not start fights. But they can finish them!" The boy was going to take every toy from the girl, then physically bullied her. She showed him what happens when you get violent. So now I'm gonna say good apple.

Story one she asked if she was the bad apple for yelling at the teacher not if her stating self defense. Also, she said her child was about 4 right? So pre-K most likely meaning there would be two teachers with no more than 7-10 max for that age group not 30 kids for 1 teacher. At least at the schools I've taught in. Good apple because this should have been handled immediately if the teacher was able to report every detail that happened (meaning they watched exactly what the kids were doing the whole time.)

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Story 2: I used to be friends with someone who was wealthy and was snobby about it. As someone who's seen it first hand, it's not the work itself that's making the family be rude, it's the way they go about it. Like not what they say but how they say it. OP isn't in the wrong because it appears the family was looking down at these housekeepers. Saying "oh it's their job" is the equivalent of when someone comes into a store and makes a mess but doesn't clean up and says "it's the workers job to clean it up". Like it's just morals they shouldn't be rude or look down on ANYONE. I got more so the vibe they thought they were above the housekeepers and looked down at them because of their job.

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Story 1: He antagonized and pushed her first. She pushed him back. It is self defense. If she pushed him first then no, 100% wrong. But he pushed her first. We should be teaching kids to never hurt first but if someone does, you defend yourself.

#1 is a good apple, no question. And the self defense thing would be dependent on state.

Story one: I'd love to be able to say you're right, but honestly, the kid was clearly targeting her, and that's bullying. As someone who tried FOR YEARS to do things the right way about my bullies with literally zero result, I have to say what that girl did WAS self-defense. Not right that second self defense, but long term self defense. She tried words, words didn’t work and teachers didn’t intervene, so she showed him that he can't do that to her. He wasn't gonna learn any other way.

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1. Good apple 2. Crab apple close to bad apple 3. Good apple 4. Obviously good apple wth is wrong with those neighbors 💀

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18:49 This is giving Phil and Claire vibes (I mean, besides threatening for divorce and the fact that Phil is so nice and not threatening). I have to stop comparing people to modern family characters, but it feels so appropriate.

#1 - I totally agree. Teach your kids the difference between self-defence, standing up for yourself, and retaliation. #2 - I have mixed feelings. The GF would know that OP doesn't have the same background that she does, and she could have coached him. It's as simple as saying, "We have maids, etc., and you have to let them do their job. Please don't be afraid to ask for what you want." It's okay that OP doesn't want to be waited on, but it's not fair for the staff to get chewed out when OP didn't know what was expected. With the coffee, OP didn't mind making his own, and that should have been fine; that was the only clear example of the GF being rude to staff. At the fancy dinner, OP was uncomfortable being served, and I can understand that. He confused staff with host family members; I wouldn't want my cousin cleaning my room, but if there's a maid, okay, I can let her. But just like with hotel room service, if I want my room left alone, nobody should be in trouble. Unless OP can give more examples, I can't pin down the family mistreating staff. They were rude to OP with the "don't bother" comment. Are they snobbish? Maybe. Is OP uncomfortable with the upper-class lifestyle? Yes, clearly, but that's not bad. I don't think OP has the background knowledge to know how to 'behave' in this situation. I don't think he meant to be a nuisance or to be a white knight. I don't think OP is compatible with this GF; they have really different priorities and perspectives. OP didn't mean to be a jerk, and may have been truly ignorant of his faux-pas. I'm leaning towards crab-apple, though I do understand where you're getting bad apple from. #3 - OMG, he dropped the business idea on her like that?! Husband is off his rocker! Expecting die-hard support is *not* okay! And if you're going to start a business, it's not for the family to keep it afloat. Oh, and the constant social media promoting sounds like a bad MLM situation (I'm so glad you mentioned them). There's supporting each other, and then there's being slave to the other's demands and whims. Yes on the relationship therapy--and making sure OP isn't being controlled or manipulated in other ways. If he refuses and she still doesn't feel safe, respected, etc., the sure, split up. #4 - O...M....G... wow. Crazy neighbors!

Apple 1: I'm involved in martial arts, and while I wouldn't deem pushing someone when the violence was over, self defence on its own, it was standing up for herself. Of course what we don't know is that the violence was actually over. Would he have pushed her again, or hit her if she still refused to give him what he wanted? There is a good chance and by pushing him, it would have been self defence. The first rule when teaching little kids martial arts is that we always say to go to a grown-up first. At the same time we teach them to stand up for themselves. And she is 3, so the fact that she didn't remember the first part is completely understandable. I do wonder if the parent was still the crab apple because she was told that the teacher did recognise that the other kid started it, but for legal reasons she needed to be called in. It doesn't sound like the teacher was angry with the little girl, just informing the parent about the details. That said, I would have been as defensive in the moment if it had been one of my kids in that situation.

Apple number one good apple because the little boy should wait his turn or play with another toy

Story 3 definitely gave off "candle mlm", which definitely exist, by the end of the story! Too many red flags that its an mlm: the "sudden" interest, not consulting with OP, sounding like he's been sold the delusion of how *easy* becoming a BIG candle "business", no mention of him actually *making candles*, using the same anti-employment/pro-entrepreneur propaganda as MLMs on OP (putting down her job, "just a robot", wanting her to quit to sell candles with him), the resentment from his family for OP's not buying candles (or possibly someone in the SO's family being the source of MLM influence), pestering/selling family/friends not to normal customers outside social circle, & using extreme threats/manipulation/ultimatums when OP doesn't want to quit/join his "business", claiming its because he wants ("needs", maybe if he is in debt from buying MLM stock?) OP to make more money "suddenly" (aka perhaps influenced, if not by MLM, then possibly manosphere?), despite no indication that the candle "business" is earning more than even OP does as a social worker! OP def good 🍏, but I *really* hope someone in the original reddit story comments also saw the MLM 🚩🚩🚩🚩, along with giving some education about their harm & being marriage imploder.

Story #1 - Crab apple. While I understand the OP's reaction, I think her Momma Bear instincts kicked in a little strongly. She is right to be protective of her daughter, but she could have showed a little more compassion to the little boy as well. And the daughter's actions were not quite self-defense.

Story two sounds like OP was uncomfortable with having "servants" look after them and how the family kinda snaps at the staff. I think bad apple is too far also comparing it to a restaurant?!? It's OP's in laws (essentially) house and if I was visiting my in laws and wanted to grab a cup of coffee from the kitchen, no I'm not gonna ask the staff to stop what they are doing in the middle of what they are doing JUST to get me a coffee. So out of touch!! Maybe crab apple for going in on his GF instead of talking it out but not bad apple. Story 3: Good apple. OP RUN and get a divorce. Your partner is gonna take all of your money and leave you with nothing. RUN RUN RUN. Story 4: Good apple. Ew that's so gross and rude omg. ETA: Also why not come back on one of your upload days and talk about different opinions you've read, updates to some of the stories or maybe your own thoughts that have changed after reading the stories. 🤷🏾‍♀Just a cool suggestion.

Rebecca I see your point. However, by the little girl pushing him back she just taught him that she won’t tolerate him pushing her around more effectively than the teacher stepping in.

Apple 2: my wife and I spent the first 2 nights of our honeymoon in a fancy hotel (a gift from my sister-in-law). It was a culture shock having people come in to do everything for us. But we made sure to thank them (and tip which would not have been appropriate in this apple situation) but realised that this is their job and they are required to do it. If at a private house, yes I probably would have gone to the kitchen to make my own coffee, it wouldn't occur to me not to. But if it was pointed out that I should not do this, I would apologise and take full responsibility.

4. She already specified it wasn't a community event. It was a private family party.

The second story to me sounds like the guy was uncomfortable because he grew up opposite to his girlfriend and it sounded like when they got there she changed and was acting spoiled and lazy and rude and looking down on people who have less When he made coffee she should of talked to him about it instead of going to her mom thinking they wouldn’t make him coffee and he might of asked if he could make some coffee really quick the kitchen was probably big enough where he could not be in the way Now I understand that when owning a mansion it takes more than one person to manage it So I think what he was trying to say but didn’t do it very well that during the visit he saw another side to his girlfriend that he didn’t like

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Crab apple for number 2, honestly. A bit of a savior complex, sure, but it sounded like really rude behavior to me, and would have made me uncomfortable. He was speaking his truth about that.

I just have to say that watching Mrs. Rodgers, really helps me to see both perspectives and think differently. Like the first story at first I was going to say Good apple but then I saw it wasn’t self defense and agreed with you. Love your videos girl! ❤ (Sorry for the bad grammar)

Second story i disagree. I’d say crabapple, but i cannot say bad apple. The housekeeper getting in trouble for not tidying the bedroom, when he himself said that he didn't want her to do that, is pretty cruel. It might have ”been her job”, but in this case the boy is the customer and the customer said ”no i do not want her to do that specific job” and the lady of the house, instead of respecting the wishes of her guest, still sought to scold the housekeeper for respecting a guest's wishes. It applies for the other examples, if the customer wants to make his own coffee, in a home and not in a restaurant, the customer can make his own damn coffee. The comparisons between a private house and hotel or restaurant are, imo, inapt. The homeowners, being the employers, could have recognized that their guest didn’t want to participate in that kinda service and then give grace to the employees for not imposing their service onto someone who did not want it and would not be receptive of it. Now perhaps the gf should have been a little more clear about the nature of the system there; that could have spared some misunderstandings. But i don’t think he’s was wrong for being uncomfortable with a system his was not primed for.

My jaw dropped at the verdict for story #2😨🤣

The second story I think the gf is a bad apple for knowing her partner and his need to take care of himself and not warning him by saying, hey we have house keeping you dont need to do anything just relax, would have been ideal.

Story 1: I understand a teacher has to have a different perspective, not mad at that. As a parent tho, I teach my kids that if someone puts their hands on you, you have permission to hit or push them back. Retaliation, if that is what you want to call it, is self defense from future acts of bullying sometimes. They know you’re NOT the one. jmo

#2 🦀 . I had servants when I lived in Mexico, but our household was ran different than others. It's just how you establish your household and what your servants expect. If it was his household and they treated servants that way then he had a right to complain.

Hi, Martial Arts teacher here! For the first story, and judging from the age of the little girl, I do agree that it would be more beneficial for her having the mother to talk to her; not scold her, but just checking up with her. On my personal experience, it’s always better to establish a line when someone is harassing you or physically attacking you, as with the little girl. That is one of the problems we have today in schools with bullying, people don’t stabling lines because they are thought to not hit back. Also, in thing specific situation the girl did not used unnecessary force and did not hurt the little boy, she just established her line as I previously said. But this is my personal view, I will love to hear other opinions /views!

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Hi Becca! I look forward to this each week.

The second story… specifically the stuff with coffee and meal service, comparing that to a resturaunt where you go knowing that you are going to be served, thats comparing apples and oranges, and if he got in their way I dont think the staff would have any problems telling him “Hey you are in our way, what can I get for you” also he’s getting coffee, that takes all of what maybe 30 seconds? I work in the kitchen of an assisted living home our kitchen is pretty small for the amount of staff we have and we do, pretty freaquantly have residents that come into the kitchen for various reasons, now they are now allowed to just come in and go where ever, there is a specific threashhold the have to stop at, and they know it, if they need anything beyond that they have to ask us for what it is they need, one thing we are forever reminded of is that we work in their home they do not live at our place of work and I know that this dude does not live there. And that is the reason I am going with crab apple

This time, you were 100% right about all four scenarious. Love ya, Rebecca!

story time: (story 1) When I was in pre-k, my mom recieved a call that I punched another girl in the face. My mom asked - like this mom did "Well, what happened". The lady calling told my mom that the girl I punched BIT ME ON THE ARM and I punched her in the face.... THAT'S self defense. Yes that OP's daughter stood up for herself, and handled the situation - albeit poorly - him hitting his head on his way up from getting put on the floor was not her fault though. That story my mom told me has stuck with me since she told it to me - my mom told me that when she found out what happened, she told the girl on the phone "well, the girl bit her, so what do you expect her to do" - makes me laugh every time I think of this. I have no memory of this happening, but I think it's cool to think that before I was old enough to form memories that I had the gull to punch someone who was a biter - to actually defend myself when needed. I could never do that now 20 years later 😂

story 1, the girl is 3 and no one was helping her at all, and going from the sound of it, it went on for a good bit, so I think the little girl did the only thing she could think of,

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Martial arts teacher here! I teach a class of young kids (aged 4-8) and in our class we teach the kids how to respond to a situation exactly like story 1. What the little girl did was 100% in self defense, she just went about it wrong. For the littles, we teach that the first move when someone pushes you is to step back with your hands up and yell “Stop!” Cause a scene to attract the attention of an adult. This is also effective as self defense if you’re already on the ground because you’ve been pushed over. It attracts attention and shows that you are not one to mess with. Your best bet if you’re already on the ground is just to yell stop and put your hands up in a non threatening way. If the attacker continues to advance, then step back into a guarding stance and “ki’ai” as loud as possible aka make a loud noise. Usually they should stop after this but if not, pushing them back is a completely valid form of self defense. So to recap, the little girl was fully acting out of self defense but her first move should have been to shout loudly to attract adult attention. The mom was also the good apple. Her daughter should not have been punished for that. Hope this provided a new perspective! ❤

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As for #1, if i have a daughter, I'm gonna teach her that if this happens to her, she's got every right to throw hands. If she gets in trouble for it, its time for ice-cream. I somewhat understand having to file a report, but this girl is in no way, shape or form responsible for him hitting his own head while getting up. If he hadn't been bullying in the first place, he wouldn't have been down there🤷‍♂️

I love how when she reads the story's, she doesn't read it like how she would, but how she thinks the writer would say it. it helps visualize the story's.

#2. My stepfather was a well to do businessman. When he told my mom to quit her job because it was harming his taxes (she made 20% of what he made), he wasn't doing this out of machismo, he did it as a sign of "You've made it. You don't have to work anymore." However, she then decided that she needed a staff. She hired a really nice girl to look after my grandmother, then she ran the girl off. She also hired a housekeeper (even though she didn't need one). The housekeeper left after about three weeks because my mother made her feel uncomfortable. She also hired a "maintenance man", even though my stepfather already had an arrangement with a landscaper. I was the one who had him fired because he stole a Bose sound system from me (it was a 20 acre estate with four buildings, counting the house). I was in the military, only home occasionally, and the sound system was in the storage building.

Me coming back to comment after the last story: yes good apple! Like what lol?! That story was like an "is this real life" moment 😂

Apple number 3 the husband asking his wife to quit her job to help him with the candle making business is definitely bad apple. It sounds like the wife is being supportive enough that I can't give her anything but a good apple.

At first i thought she said "..i dont know lore..." (instead of whut she actually said "...i dont know more...") and my first reaction was "i know who knows lore: Matpat. I need this collab" my coworker thinks i am insane now lol.

I remember yelling at some kids to get off my lawn and I felt SO old! Mind you, I was 28 when it happened lol. But, in my defense, they were in my lawn to get to my neighbors fence to poke and throw sticks at their chickens

Definitely agree for story one, crab apple. That Mom was out of line. Typical “my child can do no wrong” kind of parent.

Story 1. I am a teacher and parent. I tell all my students when something like this happens I have to tell all parents. Regardless who initiated it there was an incident where both students were involved. Stuff like this happens pretty often at elementary school level. Chances are the teacher did not see most of what happened, that’s normal. Watching 30 kids no matter how diligent you are you will still miss things. When I have situations like this I talk to all students involved separately and any witnesses. I then talk to the parents. I do not lay blame I only state what happened and say something like pushing the other student was not the best action. Was this situation self defense? No and if a parent argued that I would remind them self defense is not getting up and pushing back.

Hi rebecca! You’re awesome, keep doing you!!!❤🍎🍏🍎

Story 2: I’m a crazy independent person who can’t stand when someone is “serving” or waiting on me. I would also feel extremely uncomfortable in OPs situation. However, I wouldn’t consider it…rude? Like you said, I’ve heard many horror stories, I was expecting the parents to be abusive towards the staff. But it was all just kinda …. A job

We have neighbours with kids attached to me.. and they for what ever reason don't want to include my son with ANYTHING, even playmates. They even stop the kids talking. Yet go to same school and talk to another neighbour and have their kids over.. so when their birthday rolls around in the summer I made a mentle and take him to the beach to save upset.. I'd never dream of just turning up..

Story 2: I have to go against her opinions and say that the girlfriend and her mother was the bad apple. There's a difference between letting a housekeeper do their job and then being rude. There's also a difference between asking a housekeeper to do something, and then straight up demanding. I don't know about anyone else but if someone demanded something me, I'd consider that rude. There's a difference between "Can you go clean the guest room?"and "Go clean the guest room." Its just rude to straight up tell someone to do something, I don't care if its their job or not. There's always a nicer way to say what you mean/want. That's how I grew up. Bite me. She also expected the housekeeper to read her mind? By saying he shouldn't have had to make his own room as if she was too slow to comprehend that or as a "how dare he have to make his room?" YOU JUST DONT TALK TO PEOPLE THAT WAY! I DON'T CARE WHAT THEIR JOB IS, YOU JUST SIMPLY DON'T! And then the girlfriend complaining to her mother that the cooks were ignoring her boyfriend? If she was genuinely concerned that they were ignoring him she could've.. I don't know... ASK HER BOYFRIEND?! And he could explain? Why did she have to go complain to her mother and get the cooks in trouble for something that potentially wasn't their fault because you didn't bother to get the full story? In my book that's also rude and entitlement. I'm sorry, the girlfriend and girlfriend's mother were rude. Very rude. Bite me, sue me, I'm not changing my opinion.

Story #4: those parents are the royal family of the kingdom of entitlement

Story 1: I would also add that OP does not actually know how the school handled this with the other kid's parents. Many teachers would have separate, private conversations with each set of parents. The assumption that it's only her child being punished is probably not accurate.

For story 2, the girlfriend was completely right. He did save all of his frustrations to dump on her later. That was rude.

4. So we're teaching our kids it's okay to party crash now? That's what it feels like.

I kinda really disagree with the second story. Having family on both sides of this the spectrum of being the caterer and catered to, there's definitely some entitlement on the girlfriends family's part. Like how quickly they jumped to blame the staff for the partner just making coffee, which realistically could be as simple as putting grounds in a filter and turning a machine on. He's definitely a crab apple for the dinner portion though. Like that's just a part of how fancy dinner's go sometimes. Like look at restaurants. The only reason they're not just standing by the table is cause they usually have ten more to take care of, but at least they get tips and get like social interactions. There's a lot of things in rich people culture that imo is really demeaning on principle, but there's definitely something to be said about how quickly they assumed negligence on the kitchen staff giving the OP a slight leg to stand on. So def crab apple.

I love this

For #3, it sounds like he got sucked into an MLM

Self defense is taking precautions to not get harmed, or fighting back to protect yourself

I respectfully agree to disagree. I will always tell my children if someone puts their hands on them to defend themselves. I have both a girl(9) and boy(2)

That intro had me busting out laughing 😆

To me, I think the second story was a crabapple, and here’s my little thought process on it he acknowledge that the staff were doing their jobs, but he did ask them to let him, and him alone to their jobs for them and to me I think he’s just not used to that type of lifestyle or a lot of people wouldn’t be so making your bed and doing a cuppa coffee or making breakfast to him. Might’ve not seem like that much work but to the girlfriend and their family that the stuff job and everything is done for them so I don’t think at he met anything when he told the staff that he could do the stuff by himself. I think the parents wanted to make a good first impression, but he did tell them that he wanted to make the bed and do a thing of coffee so I think the girlfriend telling the parents that the cooks did not do anything And ignored him even though he asked, the cook that he’ll make his own coffee was kind of going over the top with the girlfriend but at the end he did kind of lose me when he said that him and the family were at a party for the Dad and the staff were staying there to me that was them doing their jobs because a lot of fancy events the staff does stay and wait for them to take the first bite and then leave but I can understand at first how he thought maybe the family were kind of going over the top and that it making him feel a bit uncomfortable because if somebody decided on going into the place where I was sleeping and did my bed, picked up my laundry, clean the whole room from top to bottom and did think for me I would feel a bit uncomfortable and tell them that I can do it myself. Especially if they’ve been doing this at their own house or wherever they lived by themselves so that’s why I’m going with crabapple because I think he just wanted to do things himself and him telling the staff and try not to get them in trouble with their bosses but I feel like him talking with his girlfriend after the trip was a smart move as well because he did not want to make a commotion in front of the whole staff but I do not agree with his comment telling his girlfriend that he was being rude. I think he wanted to also make a impression, but it might’ve came out as rude if she had heard that he wanted to make his own stuff.

I just got a new puppy, and she was so hyperactive but when I started the episode she sat and calmly watched the episode!

Story #2 🦀 apple 🍎 because I see your point of maybe the bf wasin the way but why did the gf go "tattle" to mom instead of telling her bf that this is their job just ask them for coffee it's ok. Staff is Staff not a slave. His approach may have been a little off but I feel he has a valid point that they treated their staff rude.

I think the argument can be easily made that the first girl is acting in self defense. The boy followed her, then escalated to pushing. It’s reasonable to believe that he will continue to follow and escalate.

16:48 HI (I think) MILO! YOU ARE A GOOD KITTY! 😻 (Edit. 26:35 I stand corrected, and that it was actually Vixie; I still stand by my statement about them being a good kitty)