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Kat West | OnlyFans Model Homicide or Accident? 

Dr. Todd Grande
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This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Kat West? Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: / drgrande
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Balsam, R. H. (2008). Women Showing Off: Notes on Female Exhibitionism. Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, 56(1), 99-121. doi:10.1177/0003065108315686
Silverstein, J. L. (1996). Exhibitionism as countershame. Sexual Addiction & Compulsivity, 3(1), 33-42. doi:10.1080/10720169608400098
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@ogs1mpson609
@ogs1mpson609 3 года назад
Can’t wait for Dr. Grande’s OnlyPlants
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 3 года назад
* OnlyFerns.
@Richard-Freeman
@Richard-Freeman 3 года назад
@@bjkarana Well done!
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 года назад
@@bjkarana Hahaha I love it.
@angiedixon8017
@angiedixon8017 3 года назад
@@bjkarana good one:)
@Nikki-jn3ud
@Nikki-jn3ud 3 года назад
😂 only ferms...
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 3 года назад
My goal in life is to avoid being a Dr. Grande video analysis subject _unless_ it was a video on "here's my analysis on the coolest guy who ever lived."
@gryein7223
@gryein7223 3 года назад
He did Mr. Rogers pretty recently
@amyrussell860
@amyrussell860 3 года назад
@@gryein7223 i was gonna say something on the order of 'wise choice', but your response was simply better.
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 3 года назад
@@gryein7223 and boy oh boy could we use a little more Fred Rogers right now.
@josievanotterlo5191
@josievanotterlo5191 3 года назад
Funnnnyy reply!!!
@shoopydoopy9388
@shoopydoopy9388 3 года назад
😂😂😂👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@tdeuce7
@tdeuce7 3 года назад
I love when Dr. Grande struggles to not be savage and ends up being ultimately savage. "Jeff's....level of attractiveness" 🔥🔥🔥
@richrebel4449
@richrebel4449 3 года назад
Apparently some people don't like that like Ana from Ana Psychology channel. She even unsubscribed from Dr. Grande's channel because of the subtle savage remarks. I guess you can't please every one in this world.
@sofiab.9129
@sofiab.9129 3 года назад
I hate that....
@samlsd9711
@samlsd9711 2 года назад
🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😂🤣 He kills me everytime.
@isabellaleifsdottir
@isabellaleifsdottir 2 года назад
@@richrebel4449 it’s impossible to please everyone. Most of us love it
@TheSurefireProject
@TheSurefireProject 2 года назад
It seemed like a weird comment to me. I don't get the relevance of "attractiveness differentials" in this at all.
@reedmiller4654
@reedmiller4654 3 года назад
"...and for a man to build a prision career." my favorite line of the day.
@mishmish9103
@mishmish9103 3 года назад
Nah guys can make a living this way but it's other men who'll buy their stuff
@fljpopguy
@fljpopguy 3 года назад
"Attractiveness differential" A new term to work into my daily conversations.
@myozbubble
@myozbubble 3 года назад
It does soften the blow, doesn't it?
@gigi9301
@gigi9301 3 года назад
Attractiveness Differential = Bankroll Differential; usually, but not so much in this case.
@j0nnyism
@j0nnyism 3 года назад
Yea couples tend to share similar attractiveness scores. I hope this is true!! Probably isn’t in my case unfortunately
@MamaPinks
@MamaPinks 3 года назад
@@gigi9301 Is that something like an "involuntary vow of poverty"?
@MamaPinks
@MamaPinks 3 года назад
I finally have a definition of my marriage! A very happy one too!🥰
@overit1343
@overit1343 2 года назад
I’ve been a bartender for about 15 years. When you described female exhibitionist that really caught me off guard. I see this behavior in women every single weekend. Almost everyone of those women are followed by an extremely jealous partner. About 90% of the time these women are just trying to have fun but it almost always leads to the boyfriends/husbands starting a huge fight and making the woman leave with them.
@ChristiansPrayingTogether
@ChristiansPrayingTogether 2 года назад
It's a game...mind games ....sad too. Both parties are playing ....
@TruthBeTold0914
@TruthBeTold0914 Год назад
@@ChristiansPrayingTogether 💯
@mariawhite7337
@mariawhite7337 Год назад
It makes sense to me that he killed her because she wasn't dressing up in skimpy clothes FOR HIM but for the onlyfans stuff. He had a jealous rage, thre the phone outside, maybe the liquor bottle as well, then, stormed after her as she walked off. He pushes her, she falls over and hits her head. Tries to get up but he shoves her again. Thus killing her.
@kuritheking
@kuritheking Год назад
@@ChristiansPrayingTogether maybe some men just don’t need to be with women that like to have a wilder time. Find someone tamer and then they won’t be jealous and pissed off 24/7. It’s not a mind game it’s just one partner living in denial of what they actually want lol
@vicvega3614
@vicvega3614 Год назад
@@kuritheking so women who are in a relationship but who also dress slutty, go to bars and screw other guys? Yep men should stay away from women like that
@Ms.Stephanie.C
@Ms.Stephanie.C Год назад
The fact that Jeff wasn’t surprised by her death & asked no questions speaks volumes in my opinion.
@rickbrenner6079
@rickbrenner6079 Год назад
Exactly. IMO, he is guilty AF.
@susanisrael9779
@susanisrael9779 2 года назад
“Just because something is legal, doesn’t make it a good idea.” This is 🔥
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 3 года назад
The other day my husband joked to me that he had signed us up to be on that show “Naked and Afraid “. Laughing, I said if anybody saw the two of us naked- they would be afraid 😂
@menosbbgirl
@menosbbgirl 3 года назад
Awww hahaha that’s pretty cute!!! And funny! 😹💞
@bekahnavarro
@bekahnavarro 3 года назад
That's funny and sweet.
@dragonmoose5489
@dragonmoose5489 2 года назад
Yes my husband called it Afraid We Are Naked
@vice2versa
@vice2versa 2 года назад
So corny
@nicoleb4077
@nicoleb4077 2 года назад
Best comment ever 👌 😄😄😄
@amberc.2137
@amberc.2137 3 года назад
I don't think as a campus police officer he had enough experience with homicide crime scenes. My uncle & friend were both alcoholics. My uncle fell on marble flooring in his home when going up a marble step he fell hit his head rolled around within several feet of the fall location then died from brain bleed. My friend was witnessed as Falling on the street curb hit his head cracked it open & died over a 30min time frame. This was witnessed by many people & friends. Both brought death both were accidents in a familiar fashion to Kat's. I'm not convinced this was murder.
@robertdean9254
@robertdean9254 Месяц назад
Same. A guy I went to college with got wasted at a party in a park and fell, hitting his head on a park bench. He got back up and seemed fine (except for being drunk). About ten minutes later he sat down and slumped over. He never regained consciousness and died soon after the EMTs arrived.
@mbb--
@mbb-- 3 года назад
"[Exhibitionism] can be a way for a woman to build an online career, and a way for a man to build a prison career." Lol!
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 3 года назад
I think she was an alcoholic looking for validation.
@justin01144
@justin01144 2 года назад
@@sarahalbers5555 she was.. but there's nothing wrong with that. We all have our issues.
@matthoward8546
@matthoward8546 2 года назад
You can pay to watch her chisel off her makeup.
@mythoughtsandme5413
@mythoughtsandme5413 Год назад
@@justin01144 guess youre an alcoholic too huh? but of course you dont see anything wrong with that
@5Artep
@5Artep 3 года назад
Unfortunately, many men offer their product for free in form of a pop up ad right in our DM
@cereneryilmaz6715
@cereneryilmaz6715 3 года назад
😀🙌🏻
@PCLHH
@PCLHH 3 года назад
Lol
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 2 года назад
Brilliant comment!
@pudding7876
@pudding7876 3 года назад
".. For a man, to build a prison career." You always get at least 1 snort out of me Dr. Grande 😂
@MamaPinks
@MamaPinks 3 года назад
Meeeee tooooo! 🤣 I call them **gigglesnorts** 🤪
@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 3 года назад
He should've accepted the plea deal even if he was innocent. Knowing how flawed the justice system is, even I would've taken the plea deal, even though I am and always have been thousands of miles away; I wouldn't bet on anything, even an alibi, to save me from the flawed justice system.
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 3 года назад
I completely agree. I simply do NOT trust the justice system to handle my life if I'm in such a situation.
@Andrea-nom
@Andrea-nom 3 года назад
Amen to that
@bannedmann4469
@bannedmann4469 3 года назад
Not one that long.
@stt5v2002
@stt5v2002 3 года назад
Many people do plead guilty to crimes they didn’t commit if the deal is good enough and the potential risk is high enough.
@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 3 года назад
@@bannedmann4469 yea but the first deal they gave him, something like pleading “al-something” as opposed to guilty was such a good deal; he wouldn’t have gone to jail
@ginkellum178
@ginkellum178 3 года назад
This situation is like the stories I've seen about open marriages & the murders that occur... jealousy is just under the surface and once it is at a tipping point it explodes. I see the "wandering yucca is back"...he needs his own youtube travel channel :)
@White-Michael935
@White-Michael935 3 года назад
And drinking doesn't help.
@mrsmacca126
@mrsmacca126 3 года назад
The floor plant is a yucca? Thank you
@stevenkelby2169
@stevenkelby2169 3 года назад
@@truthsocialmedia Thanks Proffesor Genius. I love your work there at the University of Science!
@Lucky_Chase
@Lucky_Chase 3 года назад
Truth. Remember when Sean Penn tied Madonna to a chair and tormented her for 9 hours? Jealousy.
@Lucky_Chase
@Lucky_Chase 3 года назад
@@spiritmatter1553 trying to have their cake and eat it too. It never really works because of jealousy. No 2 people can be loved equally by one.
@mrsmacca126
@mrsmacca126 3 года назад
The floor plant is BACK!! We were so concerned.
@jonathandewberry289
@jonathandewberry289 3 года назад
This 'only fans' thing seems to be the most evil of things next to 'tinder and grinder' and all I see is sickness, evil, warped things. Not good.
@XanBcoo
@XanBcoo 3 года назад
Go to therapy please, before you end up like this dude
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
I don't think only fans is evil, but I do think it's kind of creepy and gross.
@jonathandewberry289
@jonathandewberry289 3 года назад
@@XanBcoo No, you need to go to therapy because you're already like that.
@jonathandewberry289
@jonathandewberry289 3 года назад
@@emmaisalone Nope, it's objectively immoral. in your religion you say 'problematic'.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 3 года назад
I wonder if the fact that she had low self-steem, as described, prompted her to feel unworthy of a partner as attractive as she was. Another possibility could be that she liked his personality very much and felt that was more important than his appearance. It’s hard to say... What stands out to me is the fact that her husband was ok with her career choice. 🤔 I just can’t imagine having a long lasting relationship, with this type of arrangement, without jealousy getting in the way. In this case the end was just tragic. Interesting review Dr. Grande, thank you!❤️
@tomruth9487
@tomruth9487 3 года назад
Rejane Oliveira, It's hard to say what attracts people to each other. Maybe he provided some financial security that her job didn't always have. I've heard first hand of jealousy with online fans towards models resulting with them stalking the models if they find out where they live. Men online that spend a lot of money on models often fool themselves into thinking that the model really does care for them. They feel they "own" the model and can get extremely jealous. Some of these men don't have the social skills to find a relationship with a woman in real life. On the other hand, if the police did investigate her online conversations, I think they would have discovered someone that was very jealous of her, or someone she was having a problem with. It's easy to believe that an online fan could be jealous of her, but wanting to kill her sounds unlikely. If I was guilty and I was in his shoes, I would have taken the first plea deal. This is a tough one, hard to know what really happened.
@scottherod7732
@scottherod7732 3 года назад
I marvel at men who are married to porn stars! Particularly when those porn stars are doing X-rated scenes with other men. These husbands say they're okay with their open marriages. But I can't believe that there isn't some jealousy there that erodes whatever relationship they had with their exhibitionist wives.
@bunille
@bunille 3 года назад
How can someone have low self-esteem and take pride in their body? It seems like a fallacy.
@tomruth9487
@tomruth9487 3 года назад
@@bunille I think women like to have men appreciate their bodies as it builds up their self-esteem.
@bunille
@bunille 3 года назад
@@tomruth9487 Weird, if anyone complimented my nude body I'd be more creeped out than anything else. Plus, her partner is right in front of her... That's not her reason.
@yogadork_namaste
@yogadork_namaste 3 года назад
When you asked why he skipped past domestic violence and went straight to murder it reminded me of Chris watts. He never physically abused shanann yet ended up calculatingly murdering her and their toddlers. It's crazy when people who aren't violent go to that extreme with not many signs it's even a possibility. Usually there's a pattern of violence or some kind of abuse before it gets to that point. Sad case, though
@cheria9399
@cheria9399 3 года назад
Maybe the women said some really unforgivable things 🤔 that triggered those reactions.
@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs
@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs 3 года назад
​@@cheria9399 No matter how "triggered" you are, as an adult, you and you alone are responsible for your actions. "unforgivable things". ??? Do you mean to say that words alone make violence and/ or murder justifiable somehow??? I really hope you're not justifying the actions of the likes of CW. Dude is a piece of shit. If someone says something that you feel is "unforgivable", maybe just break up with them.
@bellyfulochelly4222
@bellyfulochelly4222 2 года назад
Yeah, that's a good point, these two seem to represent a subset of spouse killers. Although, iirc, neighbors had reported hearing loud fights from the Watts home. And I think Shannan had mentioned to her friend being scared of him near the end there. So I wonder how much Shannan was just hiding. Perhaps there were warnings after all.
@emanuelaemanuela
@emanuelaemanuela 3 года назад
Dear Dr. Grande, how do you organize yourself to be so productive and still so accurate? Amazing work!!
@GwynethWilkins
@GwynethWilkins 3 года назад
Yes! Please tell us how!!!! Give us your productivity secrets !!!!
@behaviorhandwritingrevealt3949
@behaviorhandwritingrevealt3949 3 года назад
@@GwynethWilkins Because he has been a psychologist for 20 years. He has the education and experience to do this type of thing in his sleep.
@tinawindham6958
@tinawindham6958 2 года назад
Well , that lets me off the hook. Now where are my keys???
@kathyglass2922
@kathyglass2922 Год назад
@@GwynethWilkins Yes. I need help! I'm staring at my homework. Not diagnosing, not speculating, just staring..
@CowSaysMooMoo
@CowSaysMooMoo Год назад
lots of editing cuts
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 3 года назад
Hey Dr Grande I highly suggest the case of Brian Wilson for your psychoanalysis videos. His life story is really amazing. He is a musical genius who led the Beach Boys for a few years, but then he unfortunately fell into drug and mental health problems that plagued him for decades. He was eventually "saved" by a highly abusive therapist named Dr. Eugene Landy.
@CBrown86
@CBrown86 3 года назад
Kinda sounds like the typical life of high profile band member that then gets old though. Lol
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 3 года назад
@@CBrown86 Well I was giving bare bones description for brevity. His case is actually very unique. There is a youtuber named Jeffrey Stillwell who did a few digestable videos on Brian Wilson that are really good if you want to understand more about Brian. I highly suggest them.
@nickcharles6530
@nickcharles6530 3 года назад
That would be a great video! I totally would love to see that!!!
@corvettedm1
@corvettedm1 3 года назад
Great idea!
@debmccafferty1007
@debmccafferty1007 3 года назад
Brian Wilson is a genius.
@mellel1797
@mellel1797 3 года назад
I used to be a window model/dancer for a lingerie shop. During this time, although I was always complimented on my appearance, I felt quite insecure inside. Modeling was a great way for me to get the attention I sought/needed. I'm a bit older now and am much more comfortable with my body. If anyone were to offer to me the same opportunity now, I would not hesitate to say no. My own self-worth is enough. Thank you for another intriguing video, Dr. Grande.
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
@jeremiah doodle I agree!!
@icturner23
@icturner23 3 года назад
I can't see why he would have rejected those very generous plea deals if he were actually guilty.
@jeniferjoseph9200
@jeniferjoseph9200 3 года назад
Some people don't want a criminal record
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
Maybe he just really wanted to appear innocent? Or, he was over-confident in his chances of receiving an acquittal? I'm just guessing. I bet he sure wishes he would have accepted one of those plea deals now!
@icturner23
@icturner23 3 года назад
@@jeniferjoseph9200 *Some* people? Do others?!
@brucesmith9144
@brucesmith9144 3 года назад
Maybe fear from loss of career. A conviction makes getting a job very difficult.
@danp1471
@danp1471 2 года назад
Yeah I can only imagine him thinking if they're offering something that generous then they are very scared they'll lose in court. But who knows? All that is certain is that he's surely kicking himself in the ass for passing that up everyday he's behind bars.
@alice_rabbit8345
@alice_rabbit8345 3 года назад
“Attractiveness level”!? You’re so kind Dr G!!
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 года назад
*Leave it to Dr Grande to say "That man was straight up ugly, but his wife was gorgeous!" in the most diplomatic, PC way possible.*
@menosbbgirl
@menosbbgirl 3 года назад
@@flightlessbird2281 that’s what I think too.
@randywhite3947
@randywhite3947 3 года назад
@@flightlessbird2281 nah she’s attractive
@alinan4320
@alinan4320 3 года назад
@@flightlessbird2281 are u kidding me ? He is ugly as F! She is like queen compared to him
@ellis7622
@ellis7622 2 года назад
dude, why the hell would you refuse a plea deal that results in you serving zero jail time? especially in a murder case. it’s mind boggling.
@amateursleuth1195
@amateursleuth1195 Год назад
Bc he thought that he could beat the case. He never thought the jury would convict him.
@vicvega3614
@vicvega3614 Год назад
@@amateursleuth1195 or maybe he really is innocent 🤔
@olduglyentwife5700
@olduglyentwife5700 3 года назад
I wonder why the police always report how far somebody’s alcohol level was above the legal level for driving, when the person wasn’t driving. Is there a no legal limit for laying on the ground outside?
@agathaleon9826
@agathaleon9826 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@beatngu3094
@beatngu3094 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@antiquesrestoration3874
@antiquesrestoration3874 3 года назад
"...no market for the product men had to offer..." ~the side eye after that statement made me LOL!
@cereneryilmaz6715
@cereneryilmaz6715 3 года назад
I laughed so hard 😀😀😀
@kentbetts
@kentbetts 3 года назад
If I were on the jury and knew he turned down a 3 year Alford plea, I would find him not guilty.
@deanhopkins4729
@deanhopkins4729 3 года назад
Dr. Grande , I think you should have mention the fact that Kay’s Mother and Father do not think Jeff killed her . Kats Mother testified in court for Jeff that she thought he was not responsible for Kats death .
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 3 года назад
Why would that be relevant? Unless they were there that evening.
@Ghostykins
@Ghostykins 3 года назад
@@evelynwaugh4053 Still says a lot to the character and personalities of both as well as their past relationship. If the mother was allowed to testify in court for his defense why would it not be relevant? The court thought it was.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 3 года назад
@jeremiah doodle It's also prohibited by evidence codes. The introduction of character isn't relevant. So my prior bad acts (or my good ones) aren't allowed as evidence regarding the specific crime before the court. Evidence of my previous 3 rape convictions (hypothetically) can't be introduced to show I am more likely to have committed rape/murder in the case currently at issue. Prior bad acts can be allowed as evidence to impeach me, if I lied when testifying on my own behalf (the impeachment exception is one reason defendants never testify, because it opens them up to cross examination), or when my `signature' in a past crime is unique enough that experts can establish that it identifies me as the perpetrator. However, my prior character (bad or good) can be used during sentancing, and could mean the difference between the lower or upper term being imposed. It's just not relevant as to whether or not I did the specific crime I'm on trial for. He may have always been a great guy and the in laws loved him, but great guys do on occasion kill people.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 3 года назад
@@Ghostykins Her opinion on guilt or innocence would never be offered as evidence of his innocence. Her testimony may have been relevant to another issue such as the issue of provocation, or another mitigating factor. If the mother in law had had to break up fights where her daughter physically attacked the guy, or saw her daughter taunting him about his manhood during her continual drunken rampages, that is relevant, (possibly) because it could show self defense or other mitigation, but her opinion on his character (his guilt) would not be allowed as relevant to the issue of whether he committed this crime.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 года назад
*I wonder **_WHY_** they don't think he's responsible? Because I sure do; but I'd be interested in knowing more about why they think he isnt.*
@zakattack7799
@zakattack7799 3 года назад
Hey Grande gang! 👋 Day 30 of asking the Doc to give us his take on the Daniel Holtzclaw case. Much love, see y'all tomorrow ❤
@Somegirl811
@Somegirl811 3 года назад
Maybe he doesn't want to? Jk. Good luck. :)
@WhiteChocolate74
@WhiteChocolate74 3 года назад
I want him to analyze Hitler
@zakattack7799
@zakattack7799 3 года назад
@@Somegirl811 my low openness to experience won't let me give up. 🙂
@Somegirl811
@Somegirl811 3 года назад
@@zakattack7799 😆😋
@emmajones8715
@emmajones8715 3 года назад
Didn’t know who he was, so I just googled him, he seems like a truly horrible person! I too would like to hear the doctors thoughts.
@gj4257
@gj4257 3 года назад
I watched this case on 48 hours last week and immediately afterwards I felt kind of unfulfilled. The show was suspenseful and good but I thought- I need Dr. Grande’s analysis on this so I know what to really think. And here the expert video is! Thank you, Dr G!
@SarahDunlap
@SarahDunlap 3 года назад
I almost choked when you said the attractiveness differential was so great. I guess all in the eye of the beholder.
@bannedmann4469
@bannedmann4469 3 года назад
Lol yeah, does he not notice her age? Plus he's just plain.
@truthsocialmedia
@truthsocialmedia 3 года назад
@@bannedmann4469 he has a very large round head and an undesirable career.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 года назад
*Or maybe his* 🍆 *game was on point, and he had a way with words. I've seen alot of very ugly guys with alot very good looking women, for these 2 reasons exactly!*
@truthsocialmedia
@truthsocialmedia 3 года назад
@@Griselda_Puppy I refuse to accept any advise or commentary from women analysing other women for two reasons: 1. women hate, backbite and sabotage each other. 2. women say things that are usually objectively false in order to conceal unflattering truths.
@truthsocialmedia
@truthsocialmedia 3 года назад
@@Griselda_Puppy also she was not that great looking. i guess when she was younger maybe. but i wouldn't pay money to watcher her touch herself. i don't understand why anybody does. what stupid idiot would? this generation is completely idiotic. generation z (especially the social media addicts) are completely ridiculous.
@lindadegraaf9297
@lindadegraaf9297 3 года назад
Hey Dr Grande...I have yet another challenging analysis request for you...can you consider covering the story of "Big" and "Little" Edie Bouvier Beales, of the "Grey Gardens" and Bouvier/Kennedy infamy? Their story really is one of the most fascinating yet heartbreaking true stories of our day and age. Thanks again, @Dr. Todd Grande!!
@paula889
@paula889 3 года назад
I'd like to see this one too!
@lindadegraaf9297
@lindadegraaf9297 3 года назад
@@paula889 :)!
@mrcrabmoney
@mrcrabmoney 3 года назад
Yes yes yesss. So much to unpack there.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 года назад
I'd like to see this one, too. It's a very interesting story.
@thanaedwards9660
@thanaedwards9660 2 года назад
Please do it. I’ve seen a movie and a documentary; and still don’t understand the mother and daughter.
@menosbbgirl
@menosbbgirl 3 года назад
“Attractiveness differential” 😹😹😹😹😹😹 love that!
@LOSTfan420Locke
@LOSTfan420Locke 2 года назад
I would’ve taken that Allred plea even if I was innocent. I never want a jury deciding my fate.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 года назад
Never heard of OnlyFans or case. Our society is so superficial & grandoise narcissists worry more about looks unfortunately. Great analysis as always...thanks Dr G😊💜🧡
@cheria9399
@cheria9399 3 года назад
Onlyfans is one of the biggest things on the internet these days. Women have become millionaires from it. It's easy income for some people who can't find a job, but it also comes with risks so great they wouldn't be able to walk care-freely in public anymore.
@channelthree9424
@channelthree9424 3 года назад
So many kids grow up without fathers or grow up being abused. The ingredients for emotional balance, self esteem and confidence are missing from so many homes that it's no surprise the kids grow up to be narcissistic alcoholic exhibitionists
@temposhop8739
@temposhop8739 3 года назад
@@channelthree9424 i agree. Kids aren't learning to value their lives or those of others. Even in my generation growing up in the 90s, many of my friends didn't have discipline and grew up expecting constant stimulation to feel like they existed. I thought having disciplinarian parents sucked, but I took that for granted.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 года назад
@@channelthree9424 True but always a personal choice. I had a very abusive childhood & am not an alcoholic sex worker, take drugs, do crime etc tho I have struggled w/self esteem.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 года назад
@@cheria9399 Sounds scary. Thanks.
@Juliegriffiths1
@Juliegriffiths1 3 года назад
After enjoying so many of your videos I decided to take the leap and become a Patron Looking forward to all the extra content. Fantastic analysis as usual. Keep up the great work
@yogadork_namaste
@yogadork_namaste 3 года назад
I finally buckled and subscribed to your patron the other day. Just couldn't resist anymore. Plus you're so hard working and consistent you deserve the support.
@GiotheGhreat
@GiotheGhreat 3 года назад
Four months later "They got married" there you go....recipe for disaster!
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 3 года назад
Good point.
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
Yes, great point.
@keithbrunson7190
@keithbrunson7190 3 года назад
You always have a way of making sense out of the difference between the sexes. Your example of women being endeared being exhibitionists and men to be prison bound if they are. what a brilliant observation.
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 3 года назад
Great video Dr Grande!! I find it interesting that Kat’s parents believe the husband is innocent. They believe it’s an accident.
@JennyT101
@JennyT101 3 года назад
Maybe they're in denial? Just a possibility. I imagine would be hard to lose your daughter and be told that your son in law was the killer, especially if you liked him.
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
Denial.
@adrianaandrade8809
@adrianaandrade8809 3 года назад
Thank for the great work, I admire your commitment to your channel. 👏👏👏
@Chris66Mas
@Chris66Mas 3 года назад
Did she suffer histrionic personality disorder, is it the same as female exhibitionism? It’s so sad, because a great person might hide underneath. - Your plants are part of the audience. 😀
@KAli-dk6on
@KAli-dk6on 3 года назад
Hi Dr. Grande, I'm so glad you covered this one. Honestly feel so bad for her, her whole life ahead of her. What if in a few years, she would have slowed down and realized how it affected her husband..now there daughter has lost both her parents. Another good one 😀
@lnc-to4ku
@lnc-to4ku 3 года назад
I really enjoy how you introduce us to these lesser known cases, Dr. Grande! And I always love when you give your analysis on the guilt vs innocent possibilities, and then your final opinion on what was most likely to have been the truth!
@bonzibuddy4483
@bonzibuddy4483 2 года назад
There is quite a lot of damage onlyfans models can do to their audience. Abuse is often a two way street
@psibs
@psibs 3 года назад
Don't any of these murdering husband's ever consider divorce..omg so sick! Can you do the case of the Belgian Politician Bernard Wesphael? Thanks for all your videos.
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 3 года назад
One question, what the hell was he thinking when he married her? Thanks for sharing!
@deborahmontgomery7881
@deborahmontgomery7881 3 года назад
I hate when people judge a couple on looks. My husband is attractive and I am pretty plain...and it doesn’t matter at all. We married for personality and because we loved one-another. Can you do a video on Gertrude Banizewski of the Silvia Likens case?
@AgentXaos
@AgentXaos 3 года назад
You are gorgeous, Deb...own it, girl!
@dogtrainer4645
@dogtrainer4645 3 года назад
Great job putting out the steady, quality content, Dr. Grande! 👏
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 года назад
Just a reminder, Dear Doctor, I'm still of the opinion Margeaux Hemingway's life story and tragic fate would make a fitting companion piece to the psychological autopsy you did on Margot Kidder mere days ago. Many almost eerie similarities exist.
@joycampi7233
@joycampi7233 3 года назад
I would love to see a Dr. Grande video on Margeaux Hemingway!!!
@sherunswithscissors
@sherunswithscissors 3 года назад
Also her grandfather!
@juancaminante8078
@juancaminante8078 3 года назад
Never name your daughter any version of the name “Margot”
@AdrienneMint
@AdrienneMint Год назад
@@juancaminante8078 I swear I was just thinking that
@ulaff
@ulaff 3 года назад
Never been here this early. Thank you for your uploads, always find your analysis of anyone to be intriguing!
@justinacase2623
@justinacase2623 3 года назад
My take, Hubby was a security guard at a local Christian College, they lived in a pretty nice home/neighborhood. She was making bank, not him. One or more of her "subscribers" were getting extra personal attention. Add alcohol, there you go. However she was known to drink to excess and exhibit unusual behavior, even her parents were concerned and made note of it. So second theory, she fell hit her head while heavily intoxicated. She ventured outside for help made it to the curb ,collapsed and died. Current climate made hubby a suspect and a rush to close a case he got pinned. The real victim in this is their young daughter.
@haggis525
@haggis525 Год назад
Making bank, huh. Dr. Grande said she had "a couple of hundred" subscribers. I saw on another video about this case that her subscribers paid $15.99/month. That's about $3,200/month gross. Now, I'm pretty sure that the OF folks take a cut then taxes.... you call that "making bank"? I reckon his salary was considerably more than that. Anyway... you know what they say: can't make a wife out of a garden tool. His conviction should not have happened.... there's a shite tonne of reasonable doubt.
@MrLarrySunshine
@MrLarrySunshine 3 года назад
Ok I gotta say it: Very few people (one of my children being among them) are able to pull off Any shade of orange. However you, sir absolutely Rock that shirt! You take risks and they really work for you! Somehow, it seems to brighten the plants and really (to borrow a phrase from the little-known indie darling The Big Lebowski) pulls the whole room together! 😆 Ok! When I'm finished watching I'll try to come back with something more substantive. I was just immediately struck and so had to comment. Now I can focus! 😂
@cheria9399
@cheria9399 3 года назад
He has a warm skin tone so I notice he looks better in warmer shades: olives, creams, pale oranges. His cool pinks and blues don't flatter his skin tone as much. When I noticed it, I was thinking an olive knitted vest along with a cream shirt and dark brown tie would look really good on him.
@MamaPinks
@MamaPinks 3 года назад
"They consumed alcohol there, as well." Was spoken in such a tone, that I felt like my dad was telling me the story when I was 13, and throwing in that "consuming the alcohol" was bad.😂
@mcd5478
@mcd5478 3 года назад
Interesting research about female exhibitions. Always look forward to your videos. 👍🏼💗💖💗
@APPEALtoFEAR
@APPEALtoFEAR 3 года назад
I'd like to see you do an analysis of (Virginia Tech massacre shooter) Seung Hui Cho. There is surprising lack of insight surrounding him and his crimes.
@vice2versa
@vice2versa 2 года назад
Elliot rodger said in an old post that the virginia tech shooter was mostly motivated by virginity and feeling like a loser.
@APPEALtoFEAR
@APPEALtoFEAR 2 года назад
@@vice2versa The difference being the amount of material Elliot Rodger left behind that can be scrutinized. There really isn't anything like that With Cho , mostly second hand.
@trixiedelight9874
@trixiedelight9874 3 года назад
Ooooooo. I was hoping you'd cover this....here we go. Thank you Dr G☺
@JennWatson
@JennWatson 3 года назад
Well done sir! Also, I love that peach shirt and the arrangement of the plants and mic orientation 🙃
@mmi9494
@mmi9494 3 года назад
I really enjoyed this video, this is the first time I've heard of this case.
@elainearchibald9020
@elainearchibald9020 3 года назад
Thanks Dr. Grande for your interesting analysis of Kat West! Kat must have been very messed up to go to the lengths she did for Only Fans, I don't think it was for the money only though. She may have enjoyed stirring up jealousy with her husband? Her husband put up with her behavior for such a long time, so perhaps he didn't kill her. The strangest thing to me is that he said he went to bed at 10 p.m. and his health app showed activity until 11 p.m. That is the only reason I would think he may have murdered her even if it was in a jealous rage. The neighbor must have been questioned about the figure that was seen pacing up and down the area. Perhaps the figure couldn't be identified or seen well enough. Living a life like she did could get creepy. Stalkers can track where you live, watch and make their move. Scary!! My heart goes out to the poor daughter, she has to live with the doubt of what happened. Is daddy capable of killing mommy? Now daddy isn't around as well! Sad! TFS! :)
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 года назад
Good morning Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis as always. Thank you Dr Grande.
@Mountlougallops
@Mountlougallops 3 года назад
Interesting topic and good analysis once again. Thoughtful and thought provoking. Thanks again Dr Grande.
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 года назад
Might we expect to ever be treated to a psychological autopsy of either Anne Sexton or Sylvia Plath, both successful contemporary poets. It is perhaps worth noting that Sylvia's only son, Nicholas Hughes, has now also died by his own hand. He was hung.
@villeneuve1388
@villeneuve1388 3 года назад
Syliva Plath would be a great one.
@annetreacy2437
@annetreacy2437 3 года назад
I'm very curious about the nature vs. nurture aspect in families with multiple suicides. I feel like it's got to be some of both, but growing up exposed to the idea does make it seem more ok than it apparently is to others. And "stinkin' thinkin' " is definitely contagious, or at least shared. Dunno, I'd be super curious about an educated exploration of the topic from Dr. Grande!
@jackieann5494
@jackieann5494 3 года назад
@@annetreacy2437 May I humbly suggest the possibility of a supernatural familial strain ? I've seen the suicide predilection jump from small family unit to small family unit within a larger family system .
@annetreacy2437
@annetreacy2437 3 года назад
@@jackieann5494 It's possible, my family has referred to it both as having demons, and "the Treacy curse", which kind of terrifies me. It's taken 3 siblings over 40 years.
@wendyleeconnelly2939
@wendyleeconnelly2939 3 года назад
Another interesting historical assessment would be Aimee Semple McPherson
@thereal4113
@thereal4113 3 года назад
Love at first sight doesn't always result in happily ever after in marriage. They got the "until death do us part" right!!!👰/🤵👹. Great analysis Dr. Grande 🪴🪴🪴🪴.
@victoriajohnson4420
@victoriajohnson4420 3 года назад
They did do the "until death do us part". They were together until she died.
@channelthree9424
@channelthree9424 3 года назад
It was lust at first sight.
@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs
@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs 3 года назад
@@channelthree9424 Yep. Many people cannot tell the difference between love and lust, sadly.
@shotarodeniet3301
@shotarodeniet3301 2 года назад
@@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs I lust your insight
@cratesthefoolish2442
@cratesthefoolish2442 3 года назад
I sincerely appreciate your videos Dr. Grande!
@Yolanda8419
@Yolanda8419 3 года назад
Hello, good doctor. Always a pleasure to hear your insights on all kinds of things.
@reneet5858
@reneet5858 3 года назад
After being married to an abuser for 15 years, I finally got out of there with my remaining kids who still were living at home. I was Single, has my own house, and NOT looking for ANYONE. A really nice guy delivered my refrigerator to my new house. I basically busy moving in, and basically ignored him. Not my best friend. She chatted him up like crazy ( she's very friendly to everyone) and long story short, I ended up marrying the guy a year later. We had 24 great years together. The issue? None with us. However, he WAS 11 years older, a big guy, but not bad looking at all by my friends standards. It was really amusing, though. His former Vietnam buddies would meet me, and immediately turn to him and say " How did you manage to win her over!?" How? Well, he was always a Gentleman, treated me with a super amount of respect, and truthfully? He helped me realize through things he said to me all the time, that I should never settle for anyone treating me as less than, or without dignity. He really loved ME. And I really loved him. For who he was. Which just made him all that more attractive to me. Women were actually making comments to me about how lucky I was that it was so obvious how much he loved me. He had faults, I had faults. But we loved each other more, and were comitted to our marriage, and to each other. I think Dr. Grands hit the nail on the head ( pun not intended) about this couple. After so much time of supporting her behavior, he may have tired of it. And, he probably didn't intentionally kill her ( if he did kill her). Or, because they were both drunk, things went sideways. I know a lot of supportive Husband's who are truly dedicated to their wives, and families. That exhibitionist behavior would maybe part of what drew him to her in the first place, but I know of NO MAN who would be able to cope with that on a permanent basis. JMO
@FleshWolf
@FleshWolf 3 года назад
I agree with the other commenters in the thought that the attractiveness difference isn’t really crazy on this one. Women are just generally attractive man, they look like a good pair, he just looks like a dude. They’re both older too.
@JD-cw4qg
@JD-cw4qg Год назад
Excellent analysis for this case study Dr Grande 👍🇬🇧
@julesmbc
@julesmbc 3 года назад
Well done, thank you Dr Grande :) You never cease to amaze!
@brittneybabeee4031
@brittneybabeee4031 3 года назад
We have a strip club here named Cat West & I was super confused for a min.... RIP to such a beautiful woman & I hope she & her family get justice.
@bannedmann4469
@bannedmann4469 3 года назад
You still dance there?
@jeremycurtisisgay
@jeremycurtisisgay 3 года назад
She does and she will do flips in VIP for a $20
@Andrewbert109
@Andrewbert109 2 года назад
I had to rewind this video like 3 times to see if I got it right, the guy turned down a plea deal that would involve 0 (additional) jail time. For MURDER. Like at that point it shouldn't matter if you did it or not, if they're saying "we have enough evidence to convict you but we're cool with you doing probation and time served" you fucking take it. Especially in this case, where he definitely at least contributed to it in some way. Like holy moly what was this dude thinking, I can't even imagine getting a literal "get out of jail free" card and just being like "nah I'll take my chances". It's like he's already being given the best case scenario for going to court and winning an acquittal, there's just no fucking reason to go to trial. It's like winning a sweepstakes and they come to your house and they're like, "you can either take this one million dollars now OR you can spin this wheel and win up to one million dollars or if you land on one of the red areas, you go to jail for 13 years"
@gremgreene2725
@gremgreene2725 2 года назад
Superb work Dr Todd.
@Positivevibes6238
@Positivevibes6238 3 года назад
Hello Dr.Grande,despite of all the depressing topics you discuss,i can still watch it bc you're so calm and cool.😊🌵💜God Bless...
@randompetsandnuns
@randompetsandnuns 3 года назад
I've never heard of this case!?! 🤔 Very interesting. Thank you, Dr. Grande. ✌🏻💜😇
@mindysommers
@mindysommers 3 года назад
Don't innocent people tend to turn down plea deals? :) Enjoy your videos.
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
Yes... but also people who want to appear innocent, or people with huge egos that overestimate their chances of acquittal.
@onyxwelborne
@onyxwelborne 3 года назад
@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī I think you misunderstood her question.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 года назад
*Innocent people and idiotic guilty people.*
@mindysommers
@mindysommers 3 года назад
@@onyxwelborne :)
@Marcelube
@Marcelube 3 года назад
Fantastic analysis! Thank you, Dr Grande.
@kagey03
@kagey03 3 года назад
Another interesting video we didn’t know we needed. Thank you Dr Grande!
@_AnniesDragon_
@_AnniesDragon_ 3 года назад
Dr Grande, can you please analyze Milo Yiannopoulos claiming he is ex gay? He has done a plethora of interviews recently stating this and plans for opening a conversion center. I think your insight would be most interesting as you hardly hear about gays going straight. Thank you!
@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188
@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188 3 года назад
"there's no market for the product men have to offer" i'm deceased😂
@autumnedwards4448
@autumnedwards4448 3 года назад
I love the diversity of your channel Dr Grande! One day an analysis on Freddy Mercury. The next day a true crime analysis. I just enjoy your channel so much. Keep the good work doc!💙💙
@bratgirlrules8094
@bratgirlrules8094 3 года назад
Thank you, I enjoy your take on the evidence and how it is presented.
@Frenchylikeshikes
@Frenchylikeshikes 3 года назад
Video is up to a good start already: marriage after 4 months of knowing each other, and in Vegas. Spells like success.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 года назад
WOOPEEEEEEEE!!!!.......Another great video, now to watch and enjoy. :)
@pamelaconley9744
@pamelaconley9744 3 года назад
You have some new slick equipment! 😊 looking good Doc!!
@ciaranw-man5619
@ciaranw-man5619 3 года назад
Dr Grande great video! Please consider doing an analysis of the Robert Fisher case from Arizona! I would love to hear your views on this bizarre case.
@virginiacharlotte7007
@virginiacharlotte7007 3 года назад
Only fans- the career choice every good parent dreams of for their little girls :/
@Estelle-Maureen
@Estelle-Maureen 3 года назад
Yes girl
@erika5777
@erika5777 3 года назад
Fkn people are so judgemental wow
@virginiacharlotte7007
@virginiacharlotte7007 3 года назад
@@erika5777 yep- not much different from how humans have always been ;p
@thesupreme950
@thesupreme950 3 года назад
welcome to capitalism, where your children most likely will never have the job of their dreams. so if they’re lucky enough to find an online job that’s able to support their lifestyle, good on them. a good parent will just hope for the best for them.
@Deathadder1994
@Deathadder1994 3 года назад
The justice system is ridiculous, I hate the “we have enough evidence” well then seek to go through with a trial so they get convicted of the crime they apparently done....
@gerry2345
@gerry2345 2 года назад
I like this vid. Good insight and interesting analysis.
@SOMA-WR
@SOMA-WR 3 года назад
Thank you for your videos, informative for sure
@sreddy250
@sreddy250 3 года назад
I remember this story from a UK women's magazine a few weeks ago. I won't give spoilers in case others aren't familiar with it but Jeez. Worth a watch I'm guessing. I love Dr.Grande's take on these stories.
@Romenet310
@Romenet310 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. This happened near my city. One thing I don’t understand is him throwing the cell phone out and planning on murdering her with a bottle. That does not sound likely as there is no guarantee it would have killed her.
@terryKessler42719
@terryKessler42719 2 года назад
Perhaps he didn’t want to kill her. Idk, if he just wanted to scare her he did a pretty good job of doing it.
@repa49
@repa49 2 года назад
Love your content!
@JoseCorrea
@JoseCorrea 3 года назад
Great video as usual, just started to follow your videos a couple of weeks ago, loving your forensics practice on the facts and character´s mind. I am specially interested in the understanding of the Onlyfans fenomenon ( i mean, consumers fenomenon) and you spread some light on it, am in full delight with your channel, preparing my self for a "Grande marathon tonight", my congrats from Argentina keep it on!
@DavidElstob73
@DavidElstob73 3 года назад
Why didn't he take the first plea?
@purplerain2314
@purplerain2314 3 года назад
I'm sure he's regretting that every day.
@emilywilson2084
@emilywilson2084 3 года назад
Disappeance of Susan Powell/Suicide of Josh Powell and murder of their sons
@emanuelaemanuela
@emanuelaemanuela 3 года назад
I second this. Poor woman.
@mamabear-9.18.18
@mamabear-9.18.18 3 года назад
I 3rd this! I can't believe how disgusting Josh's father was, the younger sister who still backs them to this day, the older sister (Jennifer) who tried getting Josh to confess, Susan's premonition video and the 2 innocent sons pulled into the house while that stupid CPS worker stood outside. And the 911 dispatcher who said that they go in order of urgency or whatever that idiot said as the house exploded. OMG! So sad. Plus, the other Powell brother committed suicide and allegedly he was involved in the coverup.
@cathrinetrulsson2109
@cathrinetrulsson2109 3 года назад
Good and interesting analysis 🙌🏻👍🏻😊
@juliashenandoah3965
@juliashenandoah3965 3 года назад
Your videos are very interesting and relaxing to watch, so calmly and friendly presented.
@robocounsel
@robocounsel 3 года назад
Thanks for the video and the very insightful commentary! I don't know about the rest of the subscribers, but for me the analysis in this one was a bit deeper than your more recent popular videos, and actually I would prefer more videos like this one in terms of depth. I totally understand that you have already covered a lot of ground in your older more academic videos, but I'm really missing their reincarnations in newer works a bit, so to say. Although overall you really have found a good balance I think! Thank you immensely for your work!
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