Kia EV6 1000 km challenge

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@pgsvids4884 2 года назад

“This car charges too fast - you don’t have time for double hotdog” !

@zappbrannigan8325 2 года назад

Talk about first world-problems 😃

@Jonse70 22 дня назад

Hahaha

@AA-dg4oo 2 года назад

“I had to go to rest room for type 2”🤣. Can’t look at my charge cable like before anymore.

@ObserverDingue 2 года назад

"I need a Type 2 discharge" cracked me up in another of his videos 😂

@ulf6drega 2 года назад

Having to drive 5-10 km to reach a fast charger is such a Norway-problem 😄

@alf699 7 месяцев назад

We have now taken our October build 2023/MY24 EV6 AWD GT-Line for a drive to the next larger coastal town. It was charged to 100% using a AC 7KW charger. The car gave us a range of 440km before leaving and the distance per leg was about 150km at 110km/hr on the Highway. Temperature outside was 25C-27C Celsius with internal temperature set to 23C and nothing above 50m sea level. The car started at about 25KW/100km usage but kept dropping usage calculation while driving (must be a default starting position). By the time we had done the entire trip it averaged about 19KW/100km. At about 70+% total trip distance, we still had 58% charge left in the battery but pulled in at a fast charger, just to learn how to use them. We had the DC charging set to 80% and it took less then 10 minutes to re-charge to 80%. Top charge rate was 233.46KW and it settled to around 130KW before finishing. So now we know that the car can do that full round trip including driving a bit around town more then comfortable and that we get a rock bottom range of 350+km range, no matter the condition. I did a fair bit of research before the purchase and the car has more then lived up to realistic expectations.

@teslabot6517 2 года назад

I love how you tie the disappointment of only being able to have one hot dog, to the charging speed. 😆 love the funky music too. ❤ your work.

@SasquatchMelee 2 года назад

Funny thing at 5:29, you get out of the car and the car makes the sound of "key not in car". We own a Kia that makes this sound so my chihuahua was thinking my wife was back from work and rushed to the door anxiously... Poor little fellow...

@AzizIzgin 2 года назад

😂😅

@alf699 7 месяцев назад

I really enjoy your testing. No promotion, just simple honest tests and opinions. After 20 months waiting, we finally got our EV6 GT-Line AWD. Just had it for week so far.

@tajo98 2 года назад

5~10 minute variation is what we call 'within test to test variation' for 600 minute testing. (1~2% variation is very good) It's practically the same. Great test, as always.

@MDaveUK 2 года назад

You should add to the table a column for butt hurt amount and ride quality for 1000km drives, would be a massive component in purchasing one of the cars in the list ;)

@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy 2 года назад

Butthurt level vs time...

@SAGITTARlUS 2 года назад

Seating is very subjective tho

@MDaveUK 2 года назад

@@SAGITTARlUS true, but after 10+ hours of driving I think you would get less initial bias from first impressions compared to how your butt actually feels after driving that long.

@SAGITTARlUS 2 года назад

@@MDaveUK thats a good point bro. I have heard him say that the seats in the ev6 are quite good. A bit firmer than a tesla, but still not so firm he got butt hurt from it. However you would still have to test it for yourself. I find seating to be very similair to driving the car itself; some people say its a perfect car, but when you get behind the wheel you cant find the right seating position and the steering feels unresponsive. He could give a decent description of how the seat feels to him, but since were all so different it might not apply to you. 10 hours of comfort for him could be 4 hours of comfort to you, followed by 6 hours of a butt that hurts, and an aching back. I think thats why he focuses so much on stats rather than the feel of the car.

@conchobar 2 года назад

@@MDaveUK While I immediately notice the support level and amount of bolstering a car seat has, I couldn't tell you of all the cars I've driven in my life which car has the most comfortable seats. Hell, I've never in my life complained about the comfort level of a seat. It didn't matter for cross country road trips or when I had a daily commute of 150 miles.

@johnchartrand5910 2 года назад

will be great to see this retested at 20C

@karlitono 2 года назад

You look fresh after less than 3h sleep :)

@lll4935 2 года назад

@@rogerstarkey5390 haha

@lgyanyi 2 года назад

Thank you Bjørn for this great test!

@jacobandersson3356 2 года назад

Signed up for an EV6 today, hope we will be satisfied🙏

@ismailweber1899 Год назад

And are you?

@jacobandersson3356 Год назад

@@ismailweber1899 wish i could answer you, haven't got it yet. Should arrived in March, still not produced. My patience is over, wish i orderd something else, but feels stupid not to wait it out now

@ismailweber1899 Год назад

@@jacobandersson3356 I see ok. But Times gonna fly mate! Im based in switzerland and getting mine in december. Feel free to contact me then if you wanna know anything

@hape4 2 года назад

Amazing how you drove so many km’s in those 3 days. Just awesome.

@chevalde31 2 года назад

Epic Bjørn : « This car is unstoppable » Now he needs Ultra-fast restaurant and wash rooms plus more bananas. « What the heck! »

@thomaseriksson3182 2 года назад

Tack för denna👍🌹

@kevinn1158 2 года назад

Great test. Obviously the outside temp and/or rain has a big impact efficiency. It would be interesting to see this test of the EV6 during 18-22C weather to see the difference.

@joshualucate6156 2 года назад

What a beast! Not to sound mean but so awesome that Bjorn doesn't even have time to eat properly because the charge is so fast!

@jonpar00 2 года назад

Hope you do the RWD version to show the comparison. Another great vid.

@martinj7083 2 года назад

Great video. Insights into charging behaviour are really useful for owners. Just passed 1000km in my EV6 AWD, very pleased with efficiency at 16.7kWh/100km. Terrific car overall, though HVAC needs improvement, with inconsistent cabin temperature.

@cngraham7932 2 года назад

Your overall efficiency seems pretty good. What sort of mix of roads has that first 1000km been on ? Are you on 19 or 20 wheels ?

@martinj7083 2 года назад

@@cngraham7932 about 40/40/20 motorway/2 lane highway/urban so far. On 19" wheels, which also give a better ride.

@cngraham7932 2 года назад

I am potentially interested in the GTL-S AWD which comes with 20 inch rims as standard. I'd much rather 19s were standard as they are plenty big enough, cheaper, better ride and efficiency etc. I think Bjorn's test car has 19s.

@Iceberg1313 2 года назад

You gotta feed yourself when you're feeding the car 😂, don't want you running out of energy before the car. As always Bjorn, enjoyable to watch. Now that you have so many hours night driving the EV6 how would you compare the headlights.

@WestCoastAce27 2 года назад

We need to tie in weather and construction info into the map systems. But yes ‘range anxiety’ will be an issue for many. At least until the EV charging network is sufficiently built out. Kia looks pretty good. PS - techno music only please. 😀

@Bud_Terence 2 года назад

Good job Börn. 👍

@SF49ersfanatic 2 года назад

07:15 you call that trafic ?! Come to the ring of Brussels and you’ll see what trafic is ! That was pretty smooth…😉

@bjornnyland 2 года назад

Hold my beer and come to Bangkok. I will show you what traffic is.

@mikev3078 2 года назад

@Bjørn Nyland your videos are excellent for seeing how an EV can be used for longer US road trips. Did you have "Winter Mode" enabled? Kia/Hyundai describe Winter Mode as "This mode is recommended to improve driving and DC charging performances during winter by raising the battery temperature to an adequate level. However, the driving distance may be reduced as the energy is required to increase battery temperature. Also, if the battery temperature is low during driving or when scheduled air conditioner/heater is activated, this mode is operated to improve driving performance. However, the mode is not operated to ensure driving distance when the battery level is low." It is enabled in the EV Settings menu.

@ObserverDingue 2 года назад

Brilliant video! You applied what you learned from previous test analysis of the charging curve, this is next level car reviewing. Great work Bjørn. And a great EV car, you showed how to bring out the best in it. You said once that you thought of becoming a teacher. You would have been just as good a teacher as you are a car reviewer: premium!

@johnchartrand5910 2 года назад

amazing time for for this low temperature of 6C

@JoakimVikberg 2 года назад

Very nice charging speed! I like this car a lot. Although I think the consumption is too high and/or battery size is a little too small. I live in northern Sweden and our charging network is still kinda of lagging behind so unfortunately this car doesn't have the range I (and many others) need for towing boxy trailers in winter. Ideal winter range while towing would be around 200-250 km. That should equal around 500 km real world range. These cars seems to be around 280 km real world range at 100 km/h assuming 5 % battery degradation. Probably a bit over 300 km at 90 km/h.

@hv7978 2 года назад

Too high? Are your serious?

@Zedus-rl9hp 2 года назад

Unfortunately, the high consumption brings some disillusionment. So the high charging power is more of a compensation than an advantage.

@sokoo1978 2 года назад

That was my first thought too.. Eventually when ICE cars are falling and fuel taxes have to be taken somehow, consumption may be an issue. Even not considering the cost effect, being so much more inefficient than Y makes me really think twice what car to chose.

@peterjorgensen3 2 года назад

What do you think about Aptera - getting twice the range on the same battery size? Ie: 600 miles on a 60kwh battery?

@fornobu 2 года назад

yeah hyundai (lg) dont have technology(motor effciency) so they made up with effcient fast charging

@ev-joerg6114 2 года назад

Bjørn, you made a good job! Can you tell me in a short way what you have done to get this good charging performance in winter?

@kentchr76 2 года назад

25:45 - It means that you are very good, Bjørn :) .

@mishka5152 2 года назад

If battery is getting warm in november, how will it be in 35 degrees on autobahn in Germany in the summer?

@hrrrrrrr2084 2 года назад

The new king. Were it in summer, it would likely hold the record. Until Merceez-Benz EQS comes.

@luckycasado1790 2 года назад

Hi Bjorn! I think there is a mistake in the table that you show at the end of the video. In the Model 3 SR+ MIC, the average tempetature says 17 °C when the range of tempetatures has been 4 - 10 °C IIRC. Nonetheless, Thank you for your hard work!! Great video!! :-)

@pawelzebrowski683 2 года назад

Great car , level of Tesla and Audi

@jonchalk9564 2 года назад

Can't wait to see what the RWD version does then Bjorn?

@fornobu 2 года назад

eco mode turns off front motor pratically same as rwd before you floor it.

@inflicts8217 2 года назад

@@fornobu Yes, however, the extra motor still adds weight, and the GT-line rides on 20"s.

@samusaran7317 Год назад

@@inflicts8217 These bigger wheels are ridiculous 🤨

@othmane767 2 года назад

I enjoyed watching all the videos thank you. so for you what’s the best all around electric car? not counting tesla

@samusaran7317 2 года назад

Ioniq 6

@DirkHav 2 года назад

You made me buy the Kia e-Niro a few years ago (78000 km now in 2,5 years) and now you made me decide to buy the Kia EV6 AWD. But I have to wait until my e-Niro is 5 years old. Should I buy the GT with 585 HP ? Not until you tested it.

@SilverfoxThe Год назад

I really like your videos Bjorn. One thing though: could you say which variant you're using at the start of the video, or put it in the description? That would be really helpful, thanks ;)

@wojciechmuras553 2 года назад

Woah! That's the fastest winter time of them all! I keep my bet - in a summer test, with no traffic, the EV6 will be the fastest car of them all. Much more range, no coldgating, there's definitely a half hour to shed here.

@Bud_Terence 2 года назад

9:24 on german Autobahn 3 Weeks ago.

@wojciechmuras553 2 года назад

@@bernhardleopold6702 Look at the difference in temperatures. EV6 was almost as fast, despite being 14 degrees colder. And it seems the heatpump is not great in the EV6 - just before the freeze, a Polish redaction did a highway range test. They got 360 km where Bjorn only achieved 275. The only difference being the temperatures (and an RWD car, but the front engine is electromagnetic, so shouldn't be any different). A lot of people got to test the car in September/October - none of them reported rapidgating, it was always consistent 240 kW from the start. There's definitely enough room for the EV6 to take the win (unless the EQS swoops in for the kill, but it's a bit of a different class). Model Y is superior in terms of efficiency, no doubt. But it might not be enough to survive the Korean attack.

@michalfr 2 года назад

@@wojciechmuras553 From what I've seen RWD and AWD have very different efficiency. I've read that the front drivetrain somehow is physically disconnecting when front motor is not needed (except the Sport mode), but I guess the rotating mass makes the efficiency way worse than RWD anyway.

@wojciechmuras553 2 года назад

@@michalfr It all depends on the car and the type of motor used on the front axle. Some implementations, such as early AWD Model S', were so good that it actually IMPROVED the efficiency. Don't expect that with the EV6, but on paper it seems to be pretty good.

@hrrrrrrr2084 2 года назад

@@wojciechmuras553 Mercedes Benz EQS did beat the EV6, I believe. And it's wasn't the most efficient EQS by far, being the sporty model with fat tires and currently the lowest-range EQS.

@AljosaMilenkovic 2 года назад

Very disappointed with the range of just over 250 km per charge on the highway. Expected to be at least 100 km more! Heading to any "long range" drive in the area with still underdeveloped charging infrastructure renders this car inadequate. 😩

@samusaran7317 2 года назад

Be patient for infrastructure to be built and save money in the future on a car.

@Luis-xr9ye 2 года назад

You are the men!💪🏽

@bjornnyland 2 года назад

Yes, correct. I'm 200 % because I'm half German, half Norwegian, half Thai and half Chinese :D

@davidsommen1324 2 года назад

@@bjornnyland perfect

@smartines 2 года назад

@@bjornnyland Hi Bjorn what obd app are u using???

@ObserverDingue 2 года назад

@@smartines It's CarScanner via an OBDlink LX adapter for an android phone (if you want to use an iphone then use the OBDlink MX+). He has a video on how to set it all up. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NzJo9MGBLRQ.html

@pedrojesusmartinezpascual9479 Год назад

Buenas noches, gracias por tus vídeos, ¿cuando harás la prueba de verano del ev6 GT Line?

@kofio7581 2 года назад

What phone app do you use to get all those power stats etc? And how does it interface with the car?

@marcsimmonds7814 2 года назад

Bit difficult to justify buying one of these in New Zealand because as yet we have very few fast chargers over 50kW. Except for the Superchargers, so Tesla is king for the time being.

@Highlander247 2 года назад

Same here in north of scotland

@peterjorgensen3 2 года назад

We're about evenly matched across most of the united states. Tesla is more reliable and non-tesla (CCS1) has a few holes in it, but they're both growing fast. How long do you think it will be until New Zealand is good for non-teslas?

@VirtuellJo 2 года назад

Way better battery build and all over build quality when you buy a Korean.

@electricben5607 2 года назад

Nice 👍 i would love to know how to preheat (battery) the Kia e-Niro the proper way. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks

@peterdonnellan 2 года назад

Hi. its my first time to your channel. I am looking at buying this car. What is the app you are using for the battery analysis? Also, are you saying that to get the best charging speed, you just don't use the climate control ? so, you should just use the seat heaters to keep warm when charging? thanks for the detailed video! 👍

@HelloMyFriend_ 2 года назад

Id3 82 version seems the prudent choice.

@rubenbraekman4515 2 года назад

I think in the future all charging stations should be made where cars can just pull in between them like a normal gas station, that way if you are towing a trailer you don't have to do some crazy stuff.

@Prospertxre 2 года назад

His music while he’s driving is very reminiscent of Cannonball by Supertramp. Great music to drive by.

@BartHoogen 2 года назад

I have an EV6; nice one but I have some issues with HVAC and preheat. Does preheating work for you? And do you also have a very fluctuating inside temperature? Possibly some tweaking with settings which you did?

@ObserverDingue 2 года назад

He has an analysis video on exactly this issue and at the end gives a tip to mitigate the problem. Between the two videos you can get a good understanding. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YoWETRlSCoc.html

@jaakkoiswatching6437 2 года назад

That 15°C temperature spread in the battery seems huge. BMW tends to keep cells within one degree.

@celeron55 2 года назад

You need to keep in mind sensor locations have a massive effect on the recorded temperature spread. Sensors may simply not be placed at locations that show the most extreme temperatures. In heavy use for a battery with a coolant loop you'll get the lowest temperature near the coolant channels and the highest temperature furthest from the coolant channels, and heat travels through the battery cells kind of slowly. Well anyway, what I'm saying is this information is completely insufficient to actually tell who cools their battery best.

@EV_OBD 2 года назад

Car Scanner shows 16 temperature sensors in EV6/Ioniq 5 battery and delta is only 2-3°C indeed, no big differences even at CCS. Battery Max temperature sensor probably shows some other point in the battery pack which is important for the cooling/heating strategy.

@ConstantijnKool 2 года назад

1000km challange in imiev would awsome!

@indigo42 2 года назад

”Type 2 break”, haha! 😁

@Bultish 2 года назад

Hello Björn! Would higher resolution in temperature/kwCharge make charging faster? Is the 5degree steps some kind of hysteresis to protect battery? Seems the perfect/optimal charge curve could at least be integer steps.... Theni dont know how cooling is set up to respond..

@soerenras111 2 года назад

IONITy chargers, is the only chargers i ever have handshake issues with. The cables er so damn heavy,. I lift them up everytime the car is doing thw handshake. Sometimes is stops charging when i remove my hands on the cable. My record is 7 bad handshakes in a row

@leooconnor1820 2 года назад

I look forward to seeing a 9h20m when you get a Lucid Air

@samusaran7317 2 года назад

All that extra money for very little.

@KevinT3141 2 года назад

Beware the night bananas!

@olivetom1410 2 года назад

I think there is a mistake in the table, regarding the SR+ MIC: Temperature 4-11° and T average 17°. Did I miss something?

@bilgyno1 2 года назад

Excellent. I've got the Ioniq 5 now, and chose it mostly for the interior space and more open design. But I do wish they'd made it more efficient (aerodynamics) and included a bigger battery like Kia. Still happy so far, and looking forward to my first long trip in December. Will ride Ionity all the way from Holland to Switzerland, and see how it does... I think the charging breaks will be too short for me an my son to both go to the loo...

@electricfelix 2 года назад

The dog we had in the IONIQ5 needed way longer walking breaks than the vehicle did :> Enjoy the winter trip.

@samusaran7317 2 года назад

You bought the wrong type of vehicle.... Should of waited for the Ioniq 6 which will contend with the Model 3. Space or very good efficiency, you cant really have both in my opinion.

@subbuilder3563 2 года назад

Geez! Never heard of that much distance.

@MrJanJunker 2 года назад

I would not deduct time for the charging handshake problems. It is a car/charger problem we is going to meet irl. with this particular car. This is one of the advantages for a Tesla. They is quick to start charging, but might be limited to maximum charging speed at the charger (150KW).

@bjornnyland 2 года назад

But I also deduct time when I test Tesla and I get handshake problems or I get lower power from a stall (and after I change stall I get max power). Should I also stop deducting time at Tesla tests?

@RechtsanwaltMichaelEisner 2 года назад

How about making out of these 1000 km tests with one or two other drivers and EV6 against Model Y oder Enyaq a race each one starting 5 mins after the other with same conditions? This would be much more interesting I think as to compare cars driven at different times of the year under different weather conditions and so on...

@rorozorolol9725 2 года назад

Everyone gangsta until they see a cop lol

@renatonovak9688 2 года назад

Can you do separate Infotainment reviews on your cars? I would want to see one for the EV6

@commanderroddi7742 Год назад

Looking at the differenc in range between the RWD and AWD EV6. Is there that much of a difference? Or does cutting front motor makes up for it? (Nice thing about AWD living in the rockis is the AWD, and the extra power (about 95-100 extra hp?) Wonder if the loss of the HP would be worth it.

@mikedelsolvti 2 года назад

Isn’t the range 520km on the EV6? Or do you have other battery spec in Norway than in Sweden? 🙂

@antoniocirino8444 2 года назад

Is there no heat scavenging system for the cabin or the battery? Is there any system that subtract heat from the battery or the motors to put in the cabin or battery and viceversa?

@youxkio 2 года назад

17:06 on your right side, there is another company going electric. DB Schenker!

@keithmartin7520 2 года назад

What app are you using to monitor temps and charge?

@c0d3_m0nk3y 2 года назад

Chart needs a column for number of hotdogs you can consume while charging ;)

@antimatter4733 2 года назад

My theory is that the heat pump can either only transfer heat from the battery into the cabin or outside, but not both. Since the temperature in the cabin is kept at a constant 21(?) the amount of heat it can draw out of the battery is limited. So if you for example opened the windows slightly and turned the heater to maximum it would actually cool the battery

@Bud_Terence 2 года назад

Thats the ancient way of cooling fossils that overheat, but worth a try. :)))

@KevinT3141 2 года назад

Yeah, I'm sure this is where Tesla's much lauded octovalve comes into play. A single heat pump will only heat (or cool) one thing, but you can proportion traditional coolant around in all sorts of loops with a clever enough valve arrangement.

@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy 2 года назад

So, KIA BMS might be based on human intervention: 1. To prevent battery overheating increse temp inside 2. To prevent coldgating stop hvac Seems to me like poor implementstion of the heat pump. I wish someone tested version without heat pump.

@antimatter4733 2 года назад

@@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy I mean in normal use this isn't really an issue, we're talking 5 minutes under the worst conditions. Not really something anyone should be basing their decision off, more important things like reliability, comfort and space. This only is really an issue in very cold places during long journeys anyway and like I said, 5 minutes

@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy 2 года назад

@@antimatter4733 Well, yes - and maybe in hot places where battery overheating might be an issue. Generally speaking anything other than European April/May and September/October 😉 As I live in country with relatively poor infrastructure when it comes to chargers, especially fast chargers > 150 kWh, Kia's fast charging does not make up for lowish efficiency at highway speeds . At the same time rapidgating hardly applies here. ;)

@BartHoogen 2 года назад

Björn, you are not in eco mode but in normale mode all the time. Does it matter for range?

@antoniocirino8444 2 года назад

Did you will test Model Y in winter for the 1000 km challenge?

@kentchr76 2 года назад

In the test EV6 I have driven I found that I had to keep turning/moving the wheel (with my hands constantly on it) more than I wanted when the car was on “autopilot”. Can the sensitivity be adjusted? In our Opel the sensitivity is perfect when I have my hands on the wheel and it registers my small movements just fine. We are getting one next week.

@Bengan75 2 года назад

Same with the EV6 i tested. I asked the sales person about it and he said it could be turned off, and nothing about adjusting it. So i just assume it's not possible to adjust as is. But they had asked Kia about the issue, because there were more people pointing it out, but no answer yet. Was very annoying when driving.

@dachr2 2 года назад

Same experience here in the EV6 I tested. Not really something I would want to use. Also agree on Bjørns observation about the car being a bit firm.

@g.eg.b.2643 2 года назад

How u get thr care ratings stats and temp etc? Is there an app?

@WesleyBudding 2 года назад

I’ve been looking a lot of your review videos and found them really helpful! We are a Dutch / Austrian family who make a lot of long trips and traveled several times through mid norway. I have ev6 awd in order with a lot of delay and I started looking at other options and drove the ix3 which was a lot of fun. While the ev6 has the highest specs I’m starting to doubt if this should be the main focus or that I should include driving experience and interior a bit more. In every review I hear or read, I notice that the specs are not making that much difference compared to the competition and driving and interior are somewhat disappointing. I’m currently driving an Audi A4 and love the German brands. And I really dislike Tesla quality. The doubt is about the ix3, i4 or a second hand etron 55. What would you recommend? Just wait or switch German and take range and charging a little bit less serious. A short answer would be sufficient and great, thank you. Keep making your videos.

@rhysbevan429 2 года назад

Is the modern high electricity price influencing the costs?

@StephenBieda 2 года назад

What is the software and OBD2 port device you use? Car Scanner?

@volvodashcam 2 года назад

As you recalculated the time and deducted the extra time for the detour you would have had to deduct also the extra km driven on that detour and only count the range the closed highway had. (Since that was the time you also calculated with.) So shouldn´t it have been a few more km and minutes before the "real" 1000km?

@bjornnyland 2 года назад

We already did that in the calculation.

@man0204 2 года назад

Thank you for the review! It helps a lot with my decision. How was the head room during this travel? What height do you have? (Did it became uncomfortable?) When i went to see the car, it had the sun roof and i had so little head room and i am 178 cm Thank you!

@ObserverDingue 2 года назад

I saw on another channel that the short cameraman had only the same headroom as the taller presenter in the back seats. Weird. But the shorter guy demonstrated that he had short legs and a very long torso-head. So they had the same headroom but the short guy had much better legroom to the seat in front! Maybe the driver seat in the car you tried had been raised and so you could have lowered it...?

@paulcrossley6683 2 года назад

You mention the vast number of variables at play over a 1000 km trip, so here's another one for when you compare a vehicle to itself or another similar (Kia vs Hyundai, for example): the software build and date. The Ioniq you tested in Spring and then again in Summer, did it have the same software build on each test? And the EV6 to Ioniq 5, did it have a software build date newer than the vehicle you're comparing it to, the Ioniq 5 from July and April? Not sure if these elements can be a factor, but I do know you've been suggesting that software fixes can help to solve some problems you've described. Perhaps there've been updates to correct?

@jasonvaldez6349 2 года назад

Bjorn what is the App you use to test/obtain the charging parameters used on the iPhone 📲 used in the video? Is that available for Americans to test in Miles?

@EV_OBD 2 года назад

App is Car Scanner

@MrKapitalex Год назад

Will you test the GT as well? I'm really curious on the real world range!

@bjornnyland Год назад

Once it's available, yes.

@StevenYoungcaptual 2 года назад

Is there an APP like you are using for Tesla on iPhone? P.S. You are one funny guy (-:

@bshah4831 2 года назад

If that was the GT Line S the ICE is from Meridian a UK top end HiFi company.

@jimross623 3 месяца назад

What is the app you used to display charging rate on your phone?

@73henny 2 года назад

24:00 the T avg for the Tesla M3 SR+ MIC is wrong.

@rickbullock4331 2 года назад

Traffic? I didn’t see anything to worry about. Where I live in Ontario you would’ve been pulling your hair out with traffic. In my gas powered car at those same speeds I would’ve had to stop for fuel once to achieve that 1000 km trip. My car has a 2 litre turbo 4 cylinder with 252 h.p. I get over 700 kms to a fill travelling at steady highway speeds with no hard acceleration. Right now high octane fuel is running around $1.60 per litre $Cdn or about $7.27 an imperial gallon.👍👍

@cadriver2570 2 года назад

The interface is miles ahead of Audi.

@Bultish 2 года назад

for how long is it in 230kw range, ie how long before temp spaz

@NiclasTanhua 2 года назад

@Bjørn - How do you think it will affect the batteries in the long run, when they have this fast charging. Tesla is doing extensive research, and they have a slower charge rate. Kia is newer to this research. I mean the batteries are the expensive part, and if they have e.g. 20 % loss in 2 years because of this charging speed.... Then maybe it is better to chose another car, even if this is sooo nice.

@chevalde31 2 года назад

FUD research

@MacGuyver85 2 года назад

The fact the charging speed jumps so dramatically at certain cell temperatures reveals a very crude approach that is very, very likely degrading the cells faster. The question is at what rate and if it’s acceptable. Besides that cell chemistry matters of course and Tesla leans towards lowest cost instead of max charging capabilities. But for the proper way to charge you just need to look at the Tesla charging curves. That’s how all packs should charge. There’s no magic here, just physics. The only difference between packs would be a higher speed, but same curve. I’ll preemptively note that 800V or 400V doesn’t matter for charging speed.

@miguellopez3392 2 года назад

@@chevalde31 taycan had the same issue and customers where recommended to charge shower by the company to preserve the battery.

@StefanoPicillo 2 года назад

Hello 👋🏻 I have an EV6 but I have some “issue” with battery temperature: in this period every time I want to charge the car on Ionity or similar I have the snowflake on battery (even if I drove for 200km) and I charge only at 70-130kw at 10% and after the battery is worm I charge at 200kw. Do you have any tips to avoid the cold battery “problem”?

@TheEdmaster87 2 года назад

The car doesnt have charging preheating of the battery like some other EVs have. If you plan to charge at least 20 minutes on your close and next charging time, than I suggest you hammer it and break, hanner it and break to force the battery to heat up more and than connect to the 300kw chargers as fast as you can before the battery temperature drops.

@wickras 2 года назад

So how much time did you spend for charging in total?

@chevalde31 2 года назад

Hyundai should at least simply show battery min- max + 2 coolants/ battery heater temperature values on the charging screen

@E-bikeEnduro 2 года назад

what's the name of the app you use to run the car scanner app? does it also work for iOS? Thank you

@EV_OBD 2 года назад

Car Scanner elm obd2

@magnusfahlstrom3262 2 года назад

I'm a newbie to EVs so this question has probably been asked (and answered) many times before: The time aspect aside, comparing a charge from 20% to 80% to a charge to 100%, do you get an extra 25% range if you charge to 100% ?

@michalwojciul5951 2 года назад

Yes, but you'll get lower charging speed at higher battery state of charge. So charging from 0-60% takes usually more or less the same time as charging 80-100%. It can change when battery has a top buffer, but it will always slow down while the battery charges. Also battery charges slower when it is too cold (coldgate), too hot (rapidgate - especially painful on Nissan Leaf), charger is too slow for car battery, or you are using alternating current to charge your car. So it is much more complex that just pouring gasoline down your tank. But I love EV's anyway.

@samusaran7317 2 года назад

@@michalwojciul5951 Saving money at the expense of time.

@mikesmith2682 2 года назад

From watching TB's videos, I've become very interested in the Korean EVs. It seems that the current gap is the BMS. TB has to actively manage the battery temperature. If the car did a better job of this, the car would be a monster road tripper. Does anyone know what the Hyundai/Kia BMS road trip looks like?