Kia's Un-Minivan | 2022 Kia Carnival First Drive 

He treats reviews like a professional... so his information is concise , informative, and occasionally funny.

Yo tbh tho same with me love this dude, he’s always goes in depth

and he always does his homework!

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It certainly helps that he’s become much more relaxed and would occasionally jokes around too!

I'm not sure why this blows you away over the reclining and ottoman 2nd row. That is, like Alex said, a taste of "luxurious minivan" from Asia. That to me is far more awesome than a moonroof that opens up.

@@dailyrant4068 reclining seats with footrests have been optional on minivans for years. Those kinds of features don’t appeal to common minivan buyers, though, so no one ever sees those features. The moonroof is amazing, though

I don't even think I've ever seen that before!!!

@@AKP101 Hmm, definitely not recliner with that kind of footrest. It is better than a premium economy seat. You might be right that it doesn't appeal to common buyers, but it is amazing to have that. The only other class of vehicle that has comparable seats would be full size luxury cars like S-class. The sun roof isn't that amazing unless your kid really wants to open up the sunroof....

Wish the seats could fold flat for camping mode. Lol

Not true at all. They treat this as a family vehicle in Korea. Hyundai Kia are a bunch of gangsters. They use native consumers as beta testers so they can point out problems and then sell the new models in the USA.

I am from Asia, VIPs dont ride minivan. they ride in German luxury suvs and Italian hypercars.

한국에서 이 차량은 '30대 아빠들의 차' 의 대명사 입니다. 고급 차량으로 인식되고 있지 않습니다. 종종 난폭운전을 한다는 인식 또한 가지고 있습니다😅 일반적으로 한국에서 부의 상징이 될수 있는 고급차량은 s클래스, 벤틀리, 롤스로이스 정도 입니다. 미니밴은 전혀 아닌...ㅋㅋ

Kinda-like the anti-Pilot, because the Pilot looks like a Minivan lol

Or it IS an suv w/ sliding doors

@@navinstrument8353 that's a good one. "The SUV with sliding doors✨"

Sienna still would people first choice because of better fuel economy, reliability and quality

@@westisinmyblood1240 Well, that is the story of history. Not anymore my friend.

I see it as most flexible 2nd row seating for when you have 5 large passengers and want the 3rd row down for max luggage space. It seems the outer 2nd row seats can be spread wider apart leaving even more room in the middle for feet as all 3 have more shoulder room. What's not clear is if all 3 second row seats can be in line al the way back as far as the outer ones can travel. I love the idea of it doubling as a table for up to 5 people in the 2nd and 3rd rows when you are only taking 7 people, and it is removable (as are the other 2nd row seats, so you can have a more easily accessible 3rd row if you want to make different trade offs in passenger seats and luggage space ). Sometimes I just want seating for 2 (1st Row with 3nd row seats removed for maximum cargo space), sometimes I just want 1 extra seat so 3 people can leave the most luggage/cargo space (just 1 second row seat installed and third row folded down, which can easily be changed to 6 people as row 1 with 2, row 2 with 1 seat, and row 3 with 3 seats). I can't tell you how many times cars with only 5 seats meant we had to take two cars, or leave out a person (really frustrating when we have find an available bigger vehicle to rent for any longer trips) Great as a Plug-in Hybrid option since I hope to never again purchase a car that isn't at the very least a hybrid, and I am in favor of the electric AWD to get just a enough extra traction for Maine winters (especially if it has regenerative capability on the rear drive). Mechanical AWD may be better for some but is a seemingly a lot more expensive to repair (and more likely to need repair if you put on over 306,000 miles like I did on my Prius. Even just the FWD on my early Prius had enough regenerative capability to slow the car on long downhill runs letting the brake pads to last 275,000 miles. They would have lasted even longer if I had kept the sliders properly greased, since the right front inside pad took the full braking load on that wheel since the stuck slider kept the outer pad from making full contact. I hadn't noticed it since you can't see it from the outside and I only saw the inside when I replaced tires.

60 lbs 😆 is nothing.. gone are the days my child was 60 lbs and want me to throw them in the air.. 75 lbs that's a different story

@@joebrown9621 k.

If I did that I'd be like "oh yeah no biggie" than flop to the ground haha! In all honesty though if you're trying to get healthier all power to ya including you if you see this Alex

how about carbon fiber seats cause they're light

It's not nothing but do note that a 60lb object that's an awkward shape or doesn't have good grab handles is significantly more difficult then something with good grips and easily manuervable shape.

And no usb-c, and no sunroof on SX or below, and faux leather on SX and below, and no digital instrument with blind view monitor. Really like thisvsn, but Kia made some very weird omissions on the SX.

@@jmarston4 Personally I don't like sun roof and not into usb-C. I love the leatherette very much and don't care for blind view monitor. Their instrument panel is fine for me. So I am very happy with this MPV. Personally, I would prefer a rotary or button gearshift and make it like Toyota sienna center panel. May be in their next revision.

I appreciate your feedback on your experience after purchasing one. I’m glad it’s been positive. I’m considering this.

This guy gets it.

I could also imagine a scenario where you have a lot of luggage. You need to fit 3 people in the back, but you also need to carry a lot of stuff, and may not have room for the 3rd row. So why not move the middle seat back, and get a bit more space.

If u have 3 kids why wouldn't u just get an SUV?

@@christopherroy9360 suvs tend to have sucky cargo space compared to minivans.

@@christopherroy9360 Because sliding doors can't be slammed into the car next to yours in a parking lot or the garage wall by kids overzealous to get where they're going.

I think this one looks better than the sienna but to me the sienna is more practical. I live up north, having all wheel drive drive is really good because of snow and hybrid is good because gas prices are going way up.

Hyundai engines will go out some where between 50k-75k miles. amazing reliability.

@@business-us1zl my 2015 sonata with 150k disagrees

@@business-us1zl Not true. If you take care of your car and stop believing others when they say Hyundai/Kia/Genesis is unreliable, it will last. My mother has a 2013 Kia Optima with over 100k miles.

@@business-us1zl that’s a bunch of cap

Having actual roller bags stuffed in there for a visual also helps a great deal for real-world practicality. Suspiciously measured "cu ft" numbers provided by manufacturers can be VERY misleading.

DougScore is designed for people that wear two t-shirts only.

@@jonathanshepard1517 lol

My God right? Like I should hold my breath just listening to him.

It must be all that fresh mountain air. Otherwise, I'd say very skilled editing!

That’s awesome

So cute love that

@@herbieonline_ You mean LUV that

Low utility vehicle

Meh😒

They are killing with their designs but the option packaging sucks!!!

@@brianb7844 Agreed. I DESPISE that if I choose to get a nav system, I'm forced to buy one of the idiotic vista roofs.... in Florida! I hate them.

Other than the Pilot, I agree! 2 thumbs up from a car seat technician!

Yeah, something I dislike about my Pacifica is for some reason, the latches in the third row are now equally on each side. One is firmly in the right seat and the other is right next to it, sort of straddling the middle and left seat. This makes it pretty much impossible to squeeze a third, non-car-seat person because the two car seats wind up taking most of the space. It's a weird design choice that bothers me a lot.

I saw that too, but wonder if that's blocked in the US market for some reason as no US reviewer has mentioned it.

@@TheAndyCAK could be because of safety reasons. I could see it honestly.

Didnt the honda odyssey previously have that as a feature before

@@lozano41182 I don't think so. But way back in the 90s the egg shaped Toyota Previa you could spin the second row seats to face rearwards. I think current US safety regulations do not allow for this type of feature. What I really like is European camper vans like the Benz Marco Polo or VW California where you can rotate the front seat to face rearwards, and set up a table in between the front and rear seats so the whole family can sit together around a dining/gaming table!

I stopped a guy in a parking lot a week ago that had one of these. It was either a '22 or '23. It did have the seat in the middle row that you could turn around. I am definitely interested in one of these. I looked at his Carnival on 6/16/23

What I don't understand is why the middle seat goes back so far but the 2nd row lounge seats in the top trim do not. I have the current gen Sedona with those lounge seats and they are very nice, but they only go back enough for someone I'd say 5'9" or under to be able to fully stretch out. If it went back another 6 to 9 inches a 6 footer would be able to fully stretch his legs. I had assumed the reason it didn't go back so far on my van is the seat belts are attached to the B-pillar so it is not safe for the seat to go back so far, but on the new van the belts are attached to the seat itself, so you'd think they could now make the seat go back even further.

Minivan, never understood that term from the US. It’s a people mover. A mini van would be a “mini” van, like a transit connect.

@@zoltrix7779 Wikipedia says the term "minivan" was coined to avoid confusion between vans like the Ford E-Series, Dodge RAM Van, and the Chevrolet Van because they were just called vans back then.

In south Korea, middle row cooled seats are equipped. It starts with 34,142 Dollar(noblesse trim). Maybe you can modify middle row.

@@snowball_ing The combination I want is cooled front seats, and removable middle row seats from the lower trim levels. I love the middle seats in the SX trim but I need a flat floor too often

@@mikeomgwtf Between lower trim and high trim, their differences could be modified after repair shops or DIY, but I'm not sure whether the repair shop is near to you. If you really want to, check the disassembly manual for Carnival. In korea, one of youtuber makes base trim Elantra to highest trim with buying and installing part of highest trim.

Good place to hide Christmas presents when the seats are up

I think the minivan competitors don't implement stow and go not due to any patent, but rather they prioritize 2nd row seat comfort over stowability. Stow and go seats need to be thinly padded by design, and since most people don't carry cargo that often, Honda/Toyota and now Kia have continued to go with removable 2nd row seats over stow and go. My colleague did buy a Pacifica specifically for stow and go, but interestingly not for storage. He has 3 young children and the van is used for drop off and pick up from daycare. So he puts one child seat in the 2nd row and two seats in the third row, then stows the other 2nd row seat into the floor so it makes is super easy to get all 3 kids into their seats. Then when you do need to carry another passenger, it is easy to pop the seat out from below the floor.

@@tren133 I owned a 2014 FULLY loaded Dodge Grand Caravan Crew with cloth seats. I've ridden substantial distance sitting in the 2nd row seats, (which are heated by the way) and didn't find them particularly uncomfortable at all, nor would I say that they are "Thinly Padded". I've certainly ridden in cars which are far worse.

@@claytonroot806 the Caravan i have rented for years plus my brother owned one if u think those seats are comfortable then I'm going to ask u to step up into a Sedona those plush 2nd row seats are luxury in comparison to 😁 even nicer the Dodges first row.. even the older Caravans had more comfortable seats b4 stow n go

My LX 2023 has complete stow and go.

lol

What do you mean rear seats turned facing each other? Which row, 2nd or 3rd? Do you have a link that shows this feature, a video or a picture?

@@koraytugaythis is from a quick Google search. Scroll through the photos. 2nd row are turned facing 3rd row. It's actually my favorite feature but I believe not available with the SX www.carscoops.com/2020/08/kia-fully-reveals-2022-sedona-in-korea-as-all-new-carnival/

@@SupreemSPGamer Interesting, this is not mentioned in any reviews and I did not see it mentioned in Kia webpage either.. Thank you, I wish I could find a video that mentions this feature and know which trims allows this.

@@koraytugay I've seen a couple actually, if I come across it, I'll post it

@@koraytugay ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gkX5q-4wczo.html

I seen that but how ??? Do people fit?

@@Smileydudekxy actually it’s rather ingenious but at the same time very simple. They simply do away with the trunk when the 4th row is being used. So that row is right up against that tailgate. The next clever trick has to do with that very long center seat track that we see on the 8 passenger North America model. In the 11 seater models, that track is shared by the middle seats of the 2nd and third row. And in the 9 and 11 seater models all the seats in the second and third row can move backwards and forwards. Thus allowing the passengers to better allocate the available combined legroom.

Kinda like a Toyota hiace

When you compare it to the 9 to 15 passenger vans, this is mini.