Kia Stinger vs BMW Gran Coupe - The Alternative | Everyday Driver TV Season 3 

The Kia Stinger is such an underrated and overlooked car and mainly because of badge snobs. I fell in love with the Stinger at first sight, spent 2 months researching and comparing, test driving and now I can say I'm a fulfilled man. I love my Kia Stinger GT Limited.

I got Stinger GT2 RWD for my 40th birthday last year. Little to no complaints 12 months in. The power to surprise indeed.

Two years into owning my Stinger GT2, no regrets. It has been a fantastic car.

I was supposed to sign the papers on a 2020 Stinger GT2 on Thursday. Got to the dealership and they were closing because someone who had been in that day called to tell them they'd tested positive for Covid-19. They let me take it home as a loaner with the intention of finishing the deal today. But they didn't open back up today, so the plan is to do it on Monday now. I'm in the weird limbo of driving around in my new car, but it's not actually mine yet. I absolutely love it. It's Ceramic Silver with the red leather interior.

I really love that you all are not badge snobs and just review the cars for what they are and how they feel.

Sold my Audi S5 for a Kia Stinger GT. This is an awesome car, don't be fooled by the badge. BTW, great comparison review. Finally, someone did this right without bias and brand snobbery or comparing it to cars that are in completely different price range, although the Stinger can hold its own with cars that are 15K - 20K USD higher.

Let's be honest, most of us clicked on the video for the Stinger not the unremarkable BMW

I'm a BMW fan but the Kia sounds pretty good ...and it's more rare to see a Stinger than a 4 series !! Ty for the vid....

KIA Stinger has aluminum inter cooler charge pipes with a rubberized coating for heat and sound insulation. BMW uses plastic charge pipes. Edit: Just to be clear, I like BMW's and used to own a 2013 335i xDrive. The Stinger is just an amazing car in everyway. Put a BMW batch on it and people would think it was the nicest BMW they have ever seen/driven.

I’ll take the Stinger all day. Previous gen 3/4 Series really didn’t do it for me, and brand prestige doesn’t mean jack shit to me. You get wayyyyyyyyy more car with the Stinger for similar money and likely better reliability. Kudos to you guys for keeping things purely objective and reviewing the cars, not the brands.

Simply put...i'm not trying to impress the neighbors..i'd go Kia..it is better looking..and while the quality of materials may be a small step down from the BMW...the Kia will spend less time in the shop and will most likely retain more resale..BMW's as with most German cars not called Porsche plummet .

As a Pearl Snow White Stinger GT AWD owner I appreciate a channel focusing on the actually vehicle instead of a badge.

My last 3 cars were BMW's, last one an M240i, traded it on a Stinger and I'm loving it

Nice content! Drives me friggin crazy that a guy can slime his lambo or act like a fool and get 2.2million subscribers and these two professionals put out tv quality content and the subscriber count rises at a much slower pace.

SOLD! Looks like I am buying a Stinger GT.

Every time i park my Stinger I break my neck looking back at it while walking away. Oh yeah and the driving experience is amazing

I own a GT1 Stinger because it excelled with features, performance, looks, and warranty. It competes well from A5 to Scatpack

I just drove a GT1 and I am incredibly impressed. I may be trading my WRX in for soon.

I have 2019 Stinger...Absolutely impressed...

Great review and comparison. I had a similar choice and picked the Kia just over 2 years ago. I haven’t ever regretted the decision. It really is that good. It also turns more heads than any cat I’ve had since the E46 M3. I love that it’s not a BMW or Audi. Add to that it’s one of the most reliable cars I’ve ever owned, has an insanely good warranty, and is going for a steal.

Way to go Kia! Great honest review guys! Stinger is expected to get even more power and tech soon and with 10 years warranty and better reliability for the brand it makes it even a better buy with tons of value.

I took a mate's rwd GT for a drive through the NSW hinterland and was massively impressed. Plus it has all the gadgetry of a lexus.

The Stinger Facelift is just around the corner coming with a new 3.5 Twin-Turbo and yet has the best factory warranty offer (7-years in Australia). Who can beat that reliability?

15:00 The suspension in these is amazing. My dad and I are obsessed with the Stinger, and I've heard through him that Kia tested the suspension on Australian roads and used that to improve it, that's one of the reasons why it's so smooth. The Stinger is a beautiful car and it is really underrated, I think the fact it is from Kia, not a "luxury" brand, is better. It doesn't have any old traditions or bigger shoes it has to fill to supersede models of old. It can be different and surprising because it doesn't have anything to prove to a pre existing fan base. They didn't have that pressure of rushing the next model out, they really took the time with it.

I went for the Stinger - price/package + design.

No one is laughing at KIA anymore I have one and i love it. 😊

Just bought the 2020 GT2 for 44k out the door and I love it!

My first dealership purchase was my blue stinger GT awd, it's great, lots of fun, turns a lot of heads when I'm driving.

That bmw probably broke down after the shoot

I bought a 2019 Stinger GT 2 September of 2019. I am very well pleased with the performance of the car. It is my 4th Kia that I owned. The others were a 14’ a 15’ & 17’ Kia Optima SXL, all of which were traded in (upgraded) with low mileage & loved the performance. I only have two things I don’t like with my GT. One is mine is black & for $53,000 it should have come with the poly-glow finish coating. Mine is garage kept & I only have 3700 miles on it. I have a number of scratches all over. My other complaint is if I’m not careful, I’ll bang my head when getting in. Overall it is one of the best automobiles I’ve owned, (still young @ heart) a retired Police Officer,and I’m 72 years old

I love my Stinger! I have the “E” badges and get confused looks all the time when I tell people it’s a Kia when they ask.

I have a 2018 Stinger GT2 AWD and not only does it leave me with a perma-grin on my face while behind the wheel...it's one of those cars that you park, walk away from...and turn around again just to look at it. Badge snobbists just make me laugh and shake my head...I pity their attitudes. Great comparative and unbiased review guys...really enjoyed this. I'll continue pulling alongside BMWs and Audis on the street knowing I made a far superior car choice and purchase. And enjoy seeing their front bumpers in my rearview mirror.

Picking up my 22GT on Thursday in Micro Blue..... Two test drives and I was blown away with it.

Just got a 2021 GT1 Stinger AWD and took it through some twisty mountain roads and I have to say I am blown away. I've had many great cars from 911's to BMW, Audi's and Mercedes and this car absolutely competes. For 43k you can get a mini Audi A7 experience. Great fit and finish, outstanding performance for a Grand Touring car. People over look it and that's fine with me as I don't see them all over the road. I get more looks in this than any BMW

I love the fact that the BMW 4 series Gran Coupe has a liftback hatch; unfortunately, the BMW 3 series sedan just has much more usable rear second row space.

Several years later..I still REALLY like the look of the Stinger. It's a classy design that will age well imo. I'm a BMW fan, but agree, as a family hauler, the Kia is an excellent value proposition.. Excellent review!

I'm really glad someone finally makes a car review on the Gran coupe. It's an amazing machine!

In Australia the Stinger GT is $69,000 and the 430i M Sport is $94,000. I think I want a Stinger GT.

Stinger all day... I own 2 GT Stingers always full of power and looks... No comment needed!

Kia has made HUGE progress over the years. I had a 2015 Optima SX Turbo, and that car was stellar. Only reason I got rid it was because I wanted a motorcycle more. The Stinger is on my dream list.

Plenty of people can’t get over the badge. I hear it in person and hear it on RU-vid. I’ve owned my Stinger GT for 2 years and absolutely love it. I still get people asking me what it is and who makes it.

Audi’s former designer, and BMW’s former M division engineer both designed this car. It’s an amazing machine.

My only gripe w/ the KIA is that it's not as inexpensive as I thought it would be on the used car market.

I love the Stinger and in all honesty it's probably my next car.

I live in Canada. The top spec stinger is 50,495 CAD. That's USD $37,158. I drove a stinger, and I've driven quite a few BMWs. Is the kia as good, no. Is the Kia worth it, 100%, at the Canadian Price. Also keep in mind, in Canada, MSRP is the max price a car can be. at 37k USD, it goes against a BMW 230i, 228i, 330i maybe. Kia/Hyudai pricing is strange in the USA.

Very happy with my Stinger. I added a K&N cold air intake, that added a little more power & made the sound a lot better without a loud / expensive exhaust upgrade.

I live in Scotland and took delivery of my white MSport Gran Coupe' a year ago. I looked at the Kia, as UK gets a 2.2 Diesel and a 2.0 Turbo petrol as well as the 3.3 GT2, the driving experience over Scottish roads lend to the BMW far more, despite being an older platform it drives much smaller than it is, the Kia however felt much more unwieldy. I loved this test on your program, when I watched it last year, and so glad you put it out on RU-vid, as it lets me reach out to feedback to you, as I am so jealous of the roads you have to enjoy these cars as the distances on the roads we have are clogged with slow cars we almost never get a 20 mile stretch or tarmac to truly blast a car down, heck we barely get 2 miles unhindered, so seeing you enjoy these cars is glorious!

love your reviews, it's pretty much what a normal person really cares about, even a regular enthusiast cares about.

Bought a 2023 Stinger GT2 RWD October 2022 ... ceramic silver with red interior ... Adro carbon fiber kit on it ... the MOST fun car I have ever had.

Kia first impressed me with the Genesis Coupe. I had considered getting one back when they first came out. Honestly I should have. Instead I picked up a Mazdaspeed 3 which turned out to be a gigantic piece of shit and i'm glad that it's long gone from my driveway. A few months ago I looked back on Genesis Coupe prices and was very surprised (although perhaps I shouldn't have been) to see how well those cars have held their value. I'm willing to bet that the Stinger will do the same although only time will tell of course. At times I have looked back at getting into a 3 series BMW and have been floored not only at how horribly they depreciate but also the laundry list of "common issues". I know the BMW fanboys are all defensive and butthurt but they have reason to be. Kia stormed into their living room and is kicking their ass on their own game console.

Wow ! I thank you BOTH for your unbiased opinions. We purchased the Kia Stinger with the V6 and never looked back. We were considering the Audi and BMW and decided on the Stinger. I am Shocked though as the price we paid was Exactly the same as what you pay in America $52,000 Normally we pay approximately 10 to 20 percent more for the same vehicle. With the exchange rate at 25% vs our Canadian dollar Its a steal. Kia have a great line up of excellent vehicles. Ian Nicholson Ontario , Canada

The Stinger is Amazing

I've owned my Kia Stinger GT1 AWD for 15 months now - Minus a couple squeeks and rattles it's perfect. Quick to surprise - gets compliments just about EVERY TIME I fill it up with fuel. If I had to do it again I'd get the RWD model w/o the all seasons since i barely drive it now since Covid. If you're on the fence about it... I'd highly recommend it.

Good video, guys! Thanks for the fun content. Y'all never disappoint with your knowledge and well-reasoned critiques, and I enjoy your personal dynamic. Take care, and thanks again!

Great comparison. It literally took me about 5 miles to say the Stinger was my car. I have the GT 1, RWD, its awesome. The Burger Motorsports JB4 woke it up even more, its legitimately fast in my opinion. I have had a V8 Miata, I own an FJR1300 Yamaha, and just like those, the Kia makes me take the long way and smile every time.

I take the Kia Stinger definetly. It's more car for the price. BMW's are is 4 cylinder and is not cost effective. Kia has better performace, better interior and cheao to mantain.

man, the production of this video is superb. well done, fellas.

They are reviewing the cars by the models, not the badges. I love that! Great video, thanks! BTW, I'm a proud owner of a Genesis G70. 😃 No badge snob here.

I think this was the best car review ever. No corny presentation. No useless side comments. Simply valuable info from knowledgeable men. I have been thinking about the Stinger for some time. My favorite car is Toyota Avalon/Lexus ES 350 but those don't seem to compare with the Stinger (I will never say Kia). I think this review sold me on the Stinger.

Kia will probably be more reliable than BMW. Got 3 lexus's, 93 300zx TT, and 2012 kia sedona with 250k fwy miles on it. Kia has been like 'lexus reliable'.

6:49 a Squirrel comes out and say "TOO SLOW, JR" to BMW car lol

I purchased this episode in 2018 when I was looking for a new company car. Finally, I got my first taste of petrol & RWD with a 430i GC M-Sport in - Todd's gonna like this - Snapper Rocks Blue. I like the Stinger, best KIA yet, but sadly the lease rates here in Germany are comically higher (50% or more) compared to Ze Germans. I was surprised how much the character of the car changes with the different modes. In Sport mode it feels more torquey like a bigger displacement whereas in Comfort & transmission in Sport it goes for higher revs similar to a N/A engine. It may be just a 4 banger, but revving the engine to its 7.000-7.500 RPM redline is an utter joy and makes me grin every time. No more diesels for me, thanks. After having driven an A4 TDI S-Line and a MK7.5 GTI in the past I really appreciate the superiority of BMW sport seats and the thickness and soft leather of the M-steering wheel. The HUD has spoiled me for life. Is it perfect? No. The interior cant compete with Audi (but you did know that already, didn't you?) and the B&O sound system is on another level compared to H&K. Still, I don't care, because it makes me smile more than any car before. I would choose a four-door coupe over a SUV or wagon every day, just on design alone. Now if they would only sell one with a V8 - it would be all the car I would ever need. Who doesn't like the rumble of a V8? Much more pleasing than any V6, certainly. Anyway, where to next? I had hopes for Ford releasing a four-door Mustang GT. Sacrilege? Think about it, what would you want as a dad with family and kids? V8, four doors, fun, affordable and reliable - something most modern German V8's cannot do. Chevy SS isn't an option (neither sold nor anywhere to find) here in Europe. Instead Ford went for an E-crossover, yikes. So, where to next?

I will continue to tune in for every episode. Superlative job, guys!

Thank you for the non biased review despite the badge on the car. With Peter Schereyer (former Audi designer that did the original Audi TT) and Albert Biermann (former BMW M chief engineer) in charge, people need to take a good look at what Hyundai/Genesis/Kia are doing.

The chief engineer of the KIA Stinger is no other than Ex BMW "M" Division Vice President Albert Biermann. Hence why it is so good. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Stinger

Man I just have to say the production quality and content is fantastic. Really got me paying attention. After I’m done I feel like I really get to “know” the car even though I may never drive one. Great work!

I have a Kia Stinger GT and love it, I have surprised some people with it, lol, lovely daily driver, fully loaded ,stereo system is amazing, just love the car.

6:50 No animal was harmed during this video... he's proov... 😆 🤣 😂

Best Kia ever! I just love it

owned one since 2019 and i haven’t had any issues with it whatsoever, the stinger is the best car ever literally as i’ve got the scorpion edition too a month ago

Unbiased, unrivalled review and comparison. Putting the badge aside and just have fun driving and have the feel of every pros and cons of what it's like behind the steering wheel. Good job guys, subscribed straight away after the video.

Love this episode, you are finally doing a review on my car!

Amazing stinger! I feel like buying this stinger right now.

If you guys love the Stinger, I'd highly recommend driving the Veloster N. Goes toe to toe with a Type R.

You can enjoy the beauty of a Stinger w/o breaking the bank. I bought a 2018 Stinger Premium 4 cylinder turbo (255hp) for $33,600 out the door. Plenty of power and superb fuel mileage. I average over 30mpg in my rural area. And yes, I am secure enough (and rich enough) to NOT be a badge snob.

You have to go for the diesel version of the 4-series, the 430d! Wonderful straight 6 cylinder, endless torque, very efficient and relatively cheap to ensure. It's literally the best you can get for normal daily driving.

I bought a GT2 a couple months ago. We looked around for something that I would enjoy driving and the wife could go grocery shopping with. It's about as close to the perfect combination as we could find. Now I've done the german car thing for years. I looked around. We don't have "money is no object" type of money, but we have plenty of options. From a side by side comparison....no price, no badges....it comes out ahead in almost every category. If you factor price in at all than it's one of the most no-brainer decisions I've ever made. If I need to get somewhere faster than this can move me than I probably deserve to be in prison. The 10 year warranty and the fact that service doesn't cost that much was also a consideration. I literally traded my Jag in last year for a truck because the service was indefensibly outrageous...worse than Mercedes....and at least with them you got a loaner. Anyway it's got plenty of power on tap, I like the way it feels....I don't think that it feels big at all, but I'm coming from a big obnoxious XJ so anything is probably going to feel small. It likes the highway and the backroads. We're not young, but we still like to go out and cruise around and I enjoy having her scream in my ear and ask me if I'm crazy sometimes. It keeps things fresh. What I didn't expect would be the looks and comments. People are always wanting to know what it is. I was washing it the other night and a couple was walking down the sidewalk and I heard the wife say "ooohh what is that?" and she wasn't talking about me. And yes I was able to talk the wife into going with ceramic silver and she likes it. I couldn't sell her on the red interior and we actually had to go out of state to find one with the black interior. A concession, but I think that I still made out. It's a good car.

I bought the 2019 KIA GT2 AWD over luxury brands. Mine is Ceramic Silver and I get looks and compliments all the time. I’ve changed out the KIA logo to the Korean E on their Stingers and made a few other changes. KIA has the BMW M series team now working for them, so my ego is strong enough I don’t need a BMW that will sell for 20k within three or four years. Compare the 0-60 and quarter mile in the Stinger compared to the Stinger. I have no idea where these guys are getting these BMW’s. I haven’t seen any pricing for that same BMW for under 60k. Also, KIA’s working on a redesign for 2022 that will upscale the cabin, offer more hp and torque, add a piano roof, new rim offers, and exhaust options the dealers will install. Some dealers are already offering these exhaust options.

I own a Civic Si. 25k and I love driving it and the practicality is excellent too.

The refreshed Stinger will be even better, more power, refreshed front and back end, new infotainment and 3d instrument cluster and variable exhaust like the Veloster N.

The 4 series is an ancient platform now, though. The BMW F-series debuted in 2011 as 2012 models. The new G series are much improved on nearly every level.

Used to own a 19 GT RWD trim and I terribly missing it... Beautiful and unique car on the road and turns heads wherever you go.. Sold it coz I couldn't enjoy it enough as it sits in the garage collecting dust since I work from home.. but now that I switched to in-office posture, I NEED IT BACK! lol

I really love my stinger

My mom had a 520 in the 80s, such a beautiful car, that 6-cylinder engine was so good. Then she got a 518i, the salesman convinced her that it was better driving, more efficient and effective. And it was. But it wasn’t the same and she gladly jumped into a 730i after 2 years in the 4-cylinder. BMW is slowly fading away getting rid of its milky 6s and rearwheel drive.

I totally agree. Nothing says quality too me then a nice solid door. When you shut it, it makes that solid sound.

I'd have the Stinger just any and every day of the week, even if we compared it with similar powered BMW. I have to confess there isn't anything I can put my finger on besides the price/power ratio and the looks - I do think the Stinger looks A LOT better - , but I'd just go for it. Thanks for another excellent video, guys!

Excellent review and comparison between two great cars. Unfortunately in Australia we don't get the 4WD Stinger which I would have bought in a heartbeat as I loved my Subaru's which had 4 WD. I did get the GT in the Night Sky edition here in Oz. What an amazing car and I am not sure what beats it when you add up the performance, standard features, price and the 7 year warranty we get here in Australia. It is easily the best car I have ever owned and I have had some fantastic cars. It is extremely comfortable on long trips, has immense power when needed and holds the road like a bride holding her husband's wedding tackle on their wedding night. If it had a German badge, it would costs tens of thousands more as I discovered when I did price checks against equivalent German cars with similar features here in Australia. Brilliant job Kia.

Good video fellas. I own a 440xi GC with MSport, Track Handling Pack, and the factory performance package (exhaust plus chip), and while this will come as no surprise, it is a completely different car from the 430 you featured in the video. True, it sets you back in the mid-60's, but it takes it completely out of the Kia's league. If you ever have a chance, it's worth driving the Bimmer spec'ed that way. It will blow your mind.

Another great review, gents. Thank you for the excellent content!

I looked at both of these, went to dodge, bought a scat pack. No, its not exactly a luxury car, but it felt more alive. It felt more worth its price tag (over 10 grand less than both of these) and driving it every day, i gotta say, I feel like I made the right choice for me. Also, let's not forget the extra room for the kids, and the MASSIVE trunk

I've had my 2019 Stinger GTS AWD since September and love its overall performance and value. From my humble ownerships it's like a mashup of my 1986 951 and 2007 335i...but so much better! Been to 2 autocrosses, it can power the rear to rotate.

I have a S550 and although my vehicle is heavy I was still shocked to see the gt2 beat me out of the hole!

I'm a long-time MotorTrend TV aficionado (showing my age at well over 50) but, frankly, Mr. Schmucker and Mr. Deeken are the most likeable, professional, personable, easy to watch and listen to co-stars of the top automotive online content, imho. Their camaraderie is truly genuine and their love for all things automotive, superb expertise, and honest opinions shine above all the rest (esp. those unfortunate new money rich kids and their "oh let's see how many speeding tickets we can all get today in our 'exotics' wannabes). I find myself watching every RU-vid episode regardless of what vehicles they're evaluating just because it's so refreshing and upbeat.... simply addictive and I can't get enough. Good-bye NetFlix; I'm moving over to Amazon and Vimeo so I can enjoy all the EDD films and episodes that I can binge watch to keep my spirits up during these difficult times! Keep up the great work gentlemen; you two are simply the best (and kudos to your fantastic crew/videographers/editors and everyone else who helps make your show even that much better - not to mention your beautiful locations for shooting in Utah and Colorful Colorado!). You have no idea how happy you've made me during my wasted time in Covid "lockdown"; God bless you both.

🤣 Almost Killed Buddy @ 6:49

I came close to purchasing the Kia Stinger Gt 2, I ended up purchasing the Genesis G70 3.3T. I already have a large sedan (2012 Hyundai Azera), and I have an SUV (2006 Hyundai Tucson), what I wanted was a fast smaller car. If you have never driven the Kia Stinger, do yourself a favor and drive it. You will be impressed! I chose the Genesis G70 because I wanted a personal vehicle. A car just for me. No passengers, no cargo.

cars should be compared based on price, absolutely; that's how cars are shopped. I'm still surprised how much I read from people not bothering to even answer the question because, "that's an apples to oranges comparison. Those cars don't compete in the same category." I cross shop a lot of cars that aren't even close to the same segment, because the question is always, "how much car can I get for my money"...the money is the constant.

Love my Kia Stinger GT2 AWD. What an amazing car. Great review guys.

I test drove it once, such an amazing car, though I was looking for a coupe otherwise I would have easily opted for the Stinger.

Excellent content and information. Your hard work and dedication really makes a big difference to the quality of the reviews. You produce the best car reviews.

Had my Stinger GT AWD for 2 years now and don't regret the decision.