Kobe Bryant a top-10 NBA player of all-time? | UNDISPUTED 

Chris needs to be fire. For that list

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Nope, I have to disagree with Chris's list Lebron second. He has the chance to be second of all time but not now. He aint over Kareem or Magic.

No

No

100% agree with his list. I've exactly the same top-4 and I also have Kobe #7

NEVER FORGET. Shannon, Nick Wright, Jason Whitlock, and Ben Rorbach all tried to save face after Kobe’s death. Please never forget what they did to him while he was here, I know it haunts them, and they should be allowed forgiveness at some point to but we must make it known what they did to Kobe. And they admitted after he died they were salty and BIASED. Ben Rohrbach straight up admitted that, and I could sense it in his words all those years back.

@@paradigmshift7541 don't forget ryan Hollins!! He dissed kobe the day before he died and deleted it the day he died

@@paradigmshift7541 where did Ben admit that?

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Agreed brotha I’m a huge Kobe fan but the disrespect to Kobe is unreal

Dat Boi ayy just watched one of your vids then seen this and seen you

You forgot about the michael irving 😂

Dat Boi 6. The Cowboys

Dat Boi 😂😂😂 W

Dat Boi 😂😂😂😂 that list is perfect bro

U mean while ur favourite Uncle LeShannon 🤥 on NATIONAL TV! Wich is the worst u think 💁🏾‍♂️

@@Mercurial. shanon list is better than skip list...

@@demetriclarke4194 Except for Kareem as the GOAT, his list is solid

The only trolling is putting the great kobe bryant so low

@@demetriclarke4194 No, its not, LeShannon list was a joke.

I got him 5 (used to have Bird 5th) 1 MJ 2 Lebron 3 Kareem 4 Magic 5 Kobe 6 Bird 7 Shaq 8 Duncan 9 Wilt 10 Russell Personally my list

@@raien97 LeBron MJ Kareem magic Wilt Chamberlain bill Russell Tim Duncan Larry Bird Shaq kobe

@@dakaraibarton1079 L

@@Black-oj1qe that's my opinion how about u make a list

@@Black-oj1qe instead of judging me

Breh 😂😂😂

Kobe is ahead of lebron

Zarey Dastaryan cmon bruh yu know that’s false

@@ryanjose573 everybody got their list that's mine lebron all around basketball is better kobe his scoring and willpower is greater

Shannon got them CTE’s!!!! 😜😜😂😂😂😂

It's subjective

For me he is not, but if someone put him 7th-10th its fair

Averaged **

@@leomessi7891its fair but to me he is 11th

@@leomessi7891 hakeem shaq duncan etc

Only the players from his generation

Facts the players Nd og players all say Kobe top 5

Players from this generation rank Kobe top3 I don't listen to anyone Opinions besides ex players and myself! I analyze Ko8e top 3 all-time!! Not Including Wilt and Russell they God's of this Game

@@harrypponder7396 Kobe is like 6-8 all time, only his generation of players have him that high

@@harrypponder7396 Kobe blew a 3-1 lead to the Suns and choked away the 2004 finals. Analyze that before you put him in the top 3.

bro i thought ur picture was a hair on my screen

for more than half of his championships and for more than half his finals appearances, he was not the best player on his team. he was the best player in the world for a very short time. between 2007 and 2009 more or less, and he was never the defacto best in the world. you always could've made a case he wasn't. he hurt his teams sometimes when he wasn't passing and ball hogging. he ruined the pistons series for them and drove shaq out of LA, who then proceeded to win a championship again, with his next team. kobe never had to play on his own. he had good teams for every year in which he was still good enough. jordan, lebron, shaq, etc have had multiple seasons with no one on their team. lebron went to two finals with no one. he was 22 in one of them. i have him 11th, because I can't put him higher than guys like jordan/magic/lebron/kareem/wilt /russel / duncan or ahead of dominating forces like shaq/hakeem. and i think larry bird ranks higher, but you can maybe argue that.

@@anonymous-pb7dy Kobe was college young when he had the 3peat and the only chip he was the supporting cast was his 1st one at 20 years old. Not to mention shaq fouled out and kobe hit a clutch shot in a pivotal game 4 against the pacers. Of course you burn yourself out though by comparing him to lebron lol. And thats the thing. I dont need to put another player down to make another one look better because kobes individual accomplishments speak for themselves. And he was only the best from 07-09? Did you not see the 81 pt game or the 4 50 pt games in a row? Did you not see who he was playing with before he got gasol? I can go on but the fact that you put hakeem over him just is just silly

@@shinobi-wankenobi1100 i also saw harden score 30+ in 30+ stragight. Is he the best in the world? 2000 to 2004 it was shaq or duncan 2005-2007 it was dirk or duncan (kobe was in the conversation) 2007-2009 it was kobe. After that lebron has been without question the best. Im not putting kobe down. Im a lakers fan since the early 2000s. You don't have to be disrespectful if you say he's not as good as another player. I appreciate him. I just think he's overhyped. He's not top 5-esque at all.

@@anonymous-pb7dy you make valid points sir

LOL 😅😅😅

Matthew Morcos loooooooooooooooooool

Too high lmao

Matthew Morcos where he belongs

Matthew Morcos facts

Me too 😂😂😂😂😂 I started watching this a few months ago and I still be dying laughing at that part lmao

😂😂 Never forget

He’s 9th or 10 on mine

@@vincegonzalez6804 I could make an argument for 10 players better than Koby but I can see 9.

Oscar, magic, Kareem, wilt mj, hakeem, shaq, tim duncan, lebron, bill Russell. I could name more.

​@@mcdiesel7505 Lol Kobe has all them dudes beat ill give you jordan

@@kobethegoat4l789 Has he ever won an MVP?

It's just you

@@jaamal6369 nah lol. Go somewhere with that.

Eric Heart overrated

@@kalix975 nah lol.

Eric Heart he ain’t top 5 🤦🏾‍♂️

Guthred 11 Tim Duncan is Trash

That was a mistake - Duncan is not top 10. Duncan is an excellent player, but he also had an extremely lucky career. From day one he was drafted to a team that already had one of the greartest big men of all time (David Robinson). People will argue Robison was on the decline which is true, but it doesn't matter because the two greatest gains Duncan got from DR's presence were: 1. The opportunity to learn from one of the greatrest big men to ever play the game 2. The opportunity to slide down to the PF spot (since Robinson played center) where his 7'0" / 7'5" wingspan gave him a huge advantage against most matchups Then throw in the fact that he also got coached from a young age by Greg Popovich, one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time, and that is yet another massive advantage that just fell in to his lap. Don't get me wrong Duncan was a great player without a doubt, but he also had greatness/success handed to him on a silver platter moreso then maybe any other great player that gets talked about in these discussions. I mean honestly - how many top 3 picks are lucky enough to be drafted to a team where (pretty much from day one) they have a hall of fame coach AND hall of fame player (at their position, no less) available to mentor them from day one? Then on top of that you have to factor in that he had incredibly deep and talented rosters every single year once they started winning - lets be honest, it's not like he really ever had to "tough it out" or face much in the way of adversity. If you want to just a player judge them not on how many championships their TEAM won, but based on their individual talent, ability, and contribution to the league. Duncan was really good. He was exceptional. But he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph as guys like Jordan, Magic, BIrd, Kareem, Hakeem (who was shamefully missing from these lists), Kobe and Leborn. Duncan is at least one (if not two) full tiers below those guys.

Pete you cannot contribute all that to “luck” lmao. It takes more than luck to win more than 3 championships😂😂

Stats don’t lie. + Robinson was only there for a short amount of time after Tim entered the league

Pete deep rosters are what make the spurs the spurs. Even now that’s the case haha

Wrong

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Not even close, he’s pretty overrated if we speak about him objectively

He’s the most overrated since he died we’ve had idiots calling him the goat when he’s not even top 5.

You spelt it wrong, the prefix is 'over'.

😂😂😂

They always disrespect him

God Of All Anime News it’s not about disrespect. But don’t let his passing change your judgement about where he ranks. I’ve got Kobe around 6th or 7th on my all time list but it’s not me disrespecting him but just respecting the other guys game a bit more.

God Of All Anime News I agree they did disrespect him!! A lot of ppl didn’t even put him in the top 10. It took him passing away for the haters to realize how much of Kobe was an impact!! I’ve always put Kobe over Lebron when he was here

Chris is a hater

Bro this video is from 2017.

Than you need to self reflect...

aldotheapache1000 u must be dumb

Wade

@@papito5ft6 I did I seen him take smush parker and Kwame brown to the playoffs. Also won 2010 wit a broken finger

aldotheapache1000 Rodman is the most under rated player of all time. he doesn't even get on top 50 lists. so disrespectful!!!

Kobe isn't top 10

ExtraOrdinary MUSIC lmao

You forgot king James

ExtraOrdinary MUSIC it's Lejon Brames psh get it right

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11. The son of Gloria James

Javei why

Donald Pace I'm with you.. Kobe isn't top five. Only two finals MVPs one regular season MVP, 20 years...alot of shots alot more misses...alot of playoff early exits...in fact Kobe has just as much playoff losses as lebron been in the finals

Twerk inc. not

williemack83 your comment was stupid and wrong lol with no context. You didn’t watch kobes career so you wouldn’t know 🤷🏾‍♂️

Twerk inc. Outdated trash videos. All of them say LeBron now. Go cry

You must be an LA fan who only watch two year and only against a few teams.

because he died

@Reeky Cheeky lebron is also better than Kobe too don’t know why people wanna rank him over lebron all because he died

That’s a funny joke 😂

@Reeky Cheeky Way better

skip hates lebron but atleast gives him some more credit now, but shannon is insane suggesting lebron better than mj lol

Aloha Snackbar didn’t Shannon put mj above lebron ?

@@kobethegreatestlaker5324 he doesnt anymore lol

Aloha Snackbar well he isn’t anymore after 2018

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facts

How do you defend 5 losses? Cuz 4 of those times he was the underdog, often massively.

jayceh HE was NEVER the reason they lost

I mean Steph beat every great pg of hid time.. is he top 10?

exactly

Never

Not goat but a lot had em top 3

@@YungBZTop 3 is GOAT status wdym?? Anyone in the top 5 has an argument to be the GOAT

Gorgeous Goon really is bro I don’t even argue anymore

damariun wilson me either

mann kobe if anything should be second

of course, ranking him top 7-10 of all time is disrespectful.. idiot.

Jyrik Gauldurson he’s top 5 all time no debate

Then why you have AD as your profile pic ?

FACTS.

You stole this word for word from another commenter.

Jason Culhane who cares bro bigger fish to fry. We tryna celebrate kobe not dwell on the past

It happens when super famous people pass early. Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain...... all deified after they died. Their deaths were as spectacular and shocking as their careers. Adding to the mystique. the younger you are the more significant it is to you also. Kobe is a textbook example. If he deserves it or not is subjective. He’s not in my top 10, but that’s my top 10 lol you don’t have to like it.

@@scarfface4682 I'm dwelling on today actually. Just because someone passes away it shouldn't propel them to an elevated status like a "GOAT" when just prior he was only in the top 10.

Jason Culhane Being the logo does not mean you are the goat obviously. That’s not the debate.

@@scarfface4682 He should have been considered the "Logo" before his passing, not after.

Villain Ville obviously the man means more to you than just a basketball player so I can respect that. But it’s really hard to argue he’s even top 5 if we being realistic.

@@smmsmiley2125 no it's not tbh nobody but micheal has his killer instinct or his footwork. Hes like kd but not 7ft and his post game is insane. Cmon top 5 for sure imo.

@@smmsmiley2125 alot of NBA players would pick Kobe or Lebron that says alot

U my friend are an idiot

Villain Ville lmao emotional value doesn’t count

I always say this bro. If he is the closest thing to Jordan and Jordan is the the best. Then Kobe is 2nd best. But Kobe is my Goat

He's definitely not top 3 but he is top 10 by default

To me he's defs better than Lebron and Top 5 easily. But personally, I rank him top 3 cause he's the closest thing to MJ and more skilled than anyone.

@@KyleC11 Nah better than Lebron is crazy 😭😭😭. Unless you mean skill and not rankings

He’s the closest to MJ stylistically but as far as greatest players ever, there’s like 6 guys that accomplished more, so he’s like 6-8 all time

Kool AIDS-Man Finally someone agrees with me!!!!

The only top ten list javalle mcgee would be on is Shaqta a fool

*Pierre Two Times

Brian scalebrine. Wya

Chris stopped at 7. He didn't finish his list

@@aye_jay23 Bird should be in the top 7.

@@aye_jay23 bird is 6th at worst

@Stang. Don Larry is the same level as Magic.

@Stang. Don yes he is Smdh shows u have no basketball iq

KOBE and Michael it's Defferent..

yeah cause LeBron is far better than both

@@ivblizzard3616…at losing with WAY more help 😊

@@ItsYurVatoAlex he actually had far less help than both

@@ivblizzard3616 Kobe had shaq and pau gasol. Lebron had dwade, bosh, kyrie, love, and Davis. Lebron has always had at least one other all star on his team since the first time he left the Cavs

He’s better than MJ in every category lol 😂

Every category except MJ has six finals MVP to Kareem's two and 10 scoring titles to Kareem's two...Better ppg, apg, stg, per e.t.c

"Can someone just explain why it’s sooooo shocking?" Kareem won 6 chips. Magic was the best player for 5 of them.

@@thsu8 Kareem has 2 finals MVPS bro, an argument can be made Magic deserved Kareem's finals mvp. Jordan has 6>2 Kareem's 2. This basically mens Jordan was the best player on all his championship runs, also Kareem won 2 of his MVPS WITHOUT MAKING the playoffs.

@@daedot8433 I just said Magic was the best player on 5 of Kareem's 6 championship teams.................

BRUH LMAO WAHT KINDA EXCUSE WAS THAT

😂😂😂😭

Just a bunch of white guys😂💀

Skip as usual knows nothing. 1) Sam Jones, KC Jones, Satch Sanders, Wayne Embry, and Willie Naulls were not white. 2) Besides Havlicek, Cousy, Heinsohn and Ramsey would have ben all-stars in any era against any color players. 3) Color does not make one great 4) If that comment was reversed, he would have been fired for making such a racist and stupid comment

Harrison93996 yes right tho

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Everybody knows that magic didnt really mean that he was just being kind. Anyone that puts kobe over kareem magic or lebron just doesnt know basketball

@richard sanchez in what?

@richard sanchez tell me what can kobe do that lebron cant

@richard sanchez Lebron is better in : -Finishing at the rim -Assisting the ball -Rebounding -Defending in general -Creating shots for his teammates Kobe is better in: -Shooting

@richard sanchez are you telling me that kobe is a better defender than lebron

But the team focused around Jordan. Not disrespecting the other players but it centers around Jordan. But it takes a team to win championships.

Yeah, Bill shot 44% as a big man as his average, Kobe shot a higher percentage than that and his chucking up shots from outside in the face of 3 defenders. Wilt is a better player than Bill ever was too lol The one that needs to get out of that top 10 is Bill.

Agreed. But also, the way Skip argues is as if he’s trying his best to get people to hate his guts.

How could his average minutes played be longer than 48 minutes? You do know that games go for 48 minutes right? Unless they go into OT, but Wilt did not play in that many OT games that it would put his average above 48 minutes hahaha

Of course he played OT's. But did he play enough to put his CAREER MINUTES PER GAME AVERAGE over 48.5?

You're wrong, there's no other way to say it, you're just incorrect. I was hoping you looked up his career stats and realized it for yourself.

What on Earth are you talking about? All I said was that Wilt's average minutes played per game for his career, was not 48.5. And I happen to be correct. www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html

this is funny lmao

Brian Rose legit, they were debating whether he was a top ten player of all time smh

Skip and Stephen A didn’t have him top ten I stopped watching their show for two weeks

Cmon bruh you can make your own list. Its their list

Shavarez Smith facts hurt

This show isn’t ESPN, it’s fox

yes I know I wasn’t crazy

And the idea that he wasn’t top ten was stupid before he died and is still stupid.

Notice also that Shannon had Bron ranked #3 all-time here, but all of a sudden he flipped to calling him duh 🐐

After he dropped 60 in his last game, I thought he was easily top 3 all time.

He easily top 5 man only ppl u can argue better then him mj lebron kareem

Rock Lee FAX

I'll take Kobe any day of the week, in the clutch or out the clutch..lol people would crucify Kobe if he had a losing final record..but not bron..ion get it

Imo kobe is not top 9 so it is fair to debate...you can't put him over Kareem magic wilt Russell James mj Duncan shaq bird imo..and there's Moses Karl oscar hakeem d wade as well who all can claim to be top 10 but I would give it to Kobe....he deserves 10th ...

Asmosis Jones there's no way I got Bron over Kobe, how you compare 3-5 to 5-2..lol forget championship rings what level of competition does bron go against really? the east has been cake since 09, that's why his final record is what it is he beat down on 2 teams in the playoffs an get ran in the finals..bron a stat sheet stuffer who can average a triple double in the finals and be okay with losing..i don't get that at all

Drako Da Kid I want to see Kobe go against a team the same caliber as the Warriors like LeBron.

Solid list

Eric Blake can Lebron play 5 positions,what position does he play?

What do u mean carbon copy,,1on 1 who would win Kobe or Jordan,b4 u answer,think abt what MJ said, he would beat me because he stole my moves!

I would switch 5 and 6, but I like your list.

Eric Blake I don’t know Y not #1 and #2,MJ who did he play against,Lebron, how is this, can’t dribble, what position does he play,can only post small guards, never seen him battle with people his size, very overrated

Really. I understand saying he's not top5... I go with MJ, Kareem, Russell, Magic and Bird but this "he's not top-10" nonsense is beyond stupid, always pushed by people that think stats tell all the truth is stats tell you next-to-nothing about how or why things happened.

Aegon 1 Targaryen unrealllllllllllll

You just copied someone else's comment word for word to get likes lol

@@shaft9000 Lebron is top 5. For sure.

Not really. He is close to top 10 but not a lock

Makes sense. Dying young always makes a legacy seem so much greater.

Marcus Watson it’s fake love which I find phony af

Elvin Seudieu and the fake love for Kobe is 2 weeks old too

@@Farbauti616 true

@@Farbauti616 dude ur so immature so what do u want them to do just ignore his death at a yung age with his daughter

Kawhi is in my top 3 fo sho

@@retrozzfuzionzz8677 kawhi got choke by the murray-joker:>

@@dobedap99 got two more rings than "bubble murray" and jokic lmaoooo

What goes around comes around. I remember when they compared Kobe to Lebron🤣🤣🤣🤣 sayin he better🤣 now they debating if ole boy is even top 10. It’s hilarious how the tables turn

@@retrozzfuzionzz8677ok?

Marcelo Bernardi If u going peak I honestly think Hakeem is better than kobe

Hakeem can be 11....Moses and Oscar got real beef....

Asmois jones honestly I think hakeem, Kobe, oscar, bird, duncan, shaq, and russell are all interchangeable outside the top five and two have to left out of top ten

My favorite player. It's shocking, how much disrespect he gets. Even Shaq, said The Dream is the best center he ever played.

Agree Hakeem and Larry Bird are so underrated in these debates both are in my all time fav line up ever, nothing but disrespect being shown towards both

That’s only cause they “friends “ none of Kobe accomplishments make him a top 3 player

@@lilk247 facts bru

Bc they all hate how Bron claps them ever year 😂

@@lilk247 5 Rings , 2 Finals MVPS, top 5 in scoring, impact, Robbed of at least 3 MVPS, 81 Points, One of the greatest playoff performers ever, 60 Points in his last game and most game winners ever.

@@youngrecklessescoo7079 that still doesn’t mean what you think it does. There is no context to the numbers you listed, for 3 of his championships he was the 2nd best player on the team and that’s not debatable. That plays a big factor when you’re nit picking amongst greats but when you play with unarguably the most dominant force to ever play the center position averaging 38/16 and winning 3 finals MVP’s in a row ON YOUR TEAM you don’t get as much credit as you do for the other 2 chips you can’t just sweep Shaq’s impact under the rug bro lol

I feel bad for Hakeem. The disrespect he gets. He’s in the top 10

@@wanilimbe facts!

The Goats Sure. But Hakeem is far far far Wilt in terms of skill.

I like him and hakeem

I ain't gonna lie but he like a discount version of Wilt but Hakeem might be better in defense

wait where is leshannon with his goat james. im actually confused

@@sumwonpharted8402 since then lebron went to another two nba finals and won one.

@@dexterfulbright3066 makes sense

@@sumwonpharted8402 u are a classic Nigerian. This is a clip for half a decade ago

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Wes Mantooth Who?

@Wes Mantooth Hakeem, is the BEST skilled Center...

Not even the best player in his draft class

Free Brady Hakeem the Dream, is MJ's contemporary..Stop it..

Hakeem is in my top ten

Oldschoolhiphop LMFAOOOOOO

Top 3?

There is a question

Elwan Jilani what’s the question

ZaZe Blue you could make an arguement Kobe ain’t top 10

LOL definitely not a skip fan but saying LeBron made him famous shows your age you must be like what 16 years old?

@@Stizzfoshizz maybe not famous but he definitely keeps him relevant

You could say that for all of basketball.. even people who don't follow know who Lebron is

Lets be honest skip was famous when lebron was an infant.

@@Musicrecords10 same applies to kobe when ever in a game someone dies to a nade is called a kobe and whenever someone shoots people shout kobe

Thanks i think hes the best center skill wise defense no question hakeem should be top 5 kareem wilt and shaq could not check him

Shaq was in his third year, so thats not really a fair comparison

They always sleep on Hakeem

kostas pap bigger impact Shaq? Yea....the dream never averaged a Quad double...as a CENTER

@kostas pap hakeem never had star players like penny, kobe, and wade

I don’t respect any all time list that has Kobe near the top 5

That was Hakeem, my friend

@@michaele9351 they didn't count blocks back then. He was the only player to block Kareem's skyhook 3 times in his late 30's.

@@michaele9351 because of the game footages. And people can easily say he had 20 by watching him. Like if u see a players scoring some buckets u can tell like he had the highest points cause u saw the game. That's with wilt people knew he had the highest but nba didn't record the blocks back then. Imagine blocking skyhook back to back in your late 30's. Also the only one to do so. You can obviously tell he is the greatest ever.

Kobe came from Europe, of course he ain't Black enough. If Kobe came from the hoods in U.S., you'd have Kobe get made respect from Blacks, but the truth is he's from Euro ball. He'll never get the cred he deserves because of this fact that Blacks view him that way. Sorry, truth hurts.

Paradigm Shift everyone knows that kobe is a philly guy even though he was in Italy for a bit. Do some research.

He also holds the record for most field goals missed in the history of the game, and is behind LeBron in every statistical category in both regular season and playoffs, but whatever floats your boat.

Misanthropy so did Jordan when he retired also Lebron takes mostly lay ups don't ever bring up fg% plus kobe spent three yrs on the bench three yrs with bums and 3 yrs injury ridden

Jermaine McClain the garden has never chanted mvp to Jordan he killed them to much

Davante Cartwright anyone who puts kobe in their top ten or even a top 25 list is being far more respectful and generous then he deserves.

alp21188 yup and here he is confirmed to be an idiot

Lakers Fan697 a lakers fan calling someone an idiot? Wow

alp21188 wow

you are so dumb, youve prolly never even watched the greatness of kobe. haters gonna hateee

KEKW

Just no

Nick Zhang 💀

Nick Zhang he has as many rings more points

having kareem at 1 and lebron at 3 and still active with a chance to move up is entirely different than having kareem at 3 and lebron at 9 barely in the top 10

Why? The disrespect to Kareem is real

He's probably under the age of 30 imo

Having an impact on culture has nothing to do with basketball. He’s definitely not top 5

Top 10 yes, top 5.... nah..... but yes.... I have kobe over Lebron.

@@dennisjr77 So Lebron isn't top 5? LMAO

Knicks 4 Life no

Based on that Allen Iverson would be top 5 too. Cultural impact has no relevance on talent. Kobe is bubble top 5 just based on skill though. I’ve got him around 6/7

Not really. Most of those guys were just role players who got in the HOF because they won 11 chips.

Lol, his list is a ploy. He knows it’s hard to compare MJ and LBJ accurately, but by putting Kareem ahead of Lebron and MJ, when Lebron did pass Kareem, he can also say he passed MJ.

Your really reaching flat earther

Overrated, either Vince Carter or T-Mac replace Kobe, they would get those 3 rings as well. Put Kobe on Raptors lineup or Knicks, he will be nobody today. It's all about who you play with!!! When Master Zen and Shaq left, Kobe's team were pathetic at best. Ultimately, return of Zen Master + All-Star Pau Gasol to save his a$$ legacy.

Alpha Beta you trolling right ?

Kobe is clearly top 10. However he is not top 5

kobe who?

super wild lol

Juanfra Valero EXACTLY thank you for saying that

Juanfra Valero this is possibly the best comment on this debate ever made

Exactly right. And most of these all time lists are made with biases for certain players or eras anyway.

Yes! I have been saying this for years. None of these, so called journalists, TV and media "experts" ever establish a set of criteria. It's all based on popularity, MONEY (who sponsors them and their employer) and what LITTLE they actually know about NBA history. Many players from the past get disrespected.

Let's establish the criteria: Here's my top ten list: Team success in the playoffs Individual Statistics- Peak Value Individual Statistics- Career Value Awards and Honors Leading the League and/or Setting records Team success in the regular season Unselfishness/sacrificing of Individual statistics and honors Actual Skills/Fundamentals Athleticism (Speed, Strength etc.) Intangibles (Leadership, Toughness etc.) Like you said, it depends on what you value the most. This list could have a different order by everyone who reads it. This list could be completely different from someone else's list as well. But if these shows actually evaluated players from a list like this, THEN they would have to be fair and objective. Perhaps, then, we could make a list that would be widely accepted. It would take a lot of research and then a lot of air time to discuss it. The results would probably have few surprises. The MONEY driven shows, on ESPN and Fox Sports, will never do anything like this.

D Linderman he was stuck

All skip says is 3-5....yeah but it's not 1-7.....its 3 finals mvps and 4 mvps...3 rings still ntter than most...sorry LeBron got to more finals...that's a good thing...id rather be 3-5 than 3-0...losing before the finals isn't on the record but its more embarassing...lebron never been beaten in round 1....every other legend has ... ...2 gold medals and 2 all star mvps...you cant win any more than that and he was robbee of the 2011 mvp and the 2013 defensive player of the year...in the last 15 seasons only 1 player has won mvp and finals mvp in the same year...lebron james....he did it twice...

Asmosis Jones: Preach brother. Preach. I totally agree with everything you just said. I truly believe that when he retires, LeBron will have firmly established himself as the best of all time.

And joy Taylor defending skip to get that paycheck

Asmosis Jones LeBron wasn’t robbed of MVP in 2011.

Greatest all time LMFAO Not even close to a top 5 player ever

Ain't nothing logical about putting a player w/ 6 Finals losses as the 2nd best player of all time. That's called fanboyism...

al will still got there 8 times

Snydah mediocre attitude typical of a LeBron fan. That's like celebrating a participation trophy. You play to win...

al will I'm a lebron and jordan fan. Idc who anyone calls the goat. But he's definitely top 3

Snydah he's definitely not. Only thing definite is he's top 10

nick hover kobe is a direct product of jordan but i don’t think u can say that bron is a product of anyone so that’s why he’s second to michael imo

nick hover don’t forget most missed shots in nba history

@@dhdydbemjxgcn2141 That's because he always shot the ball. Who was he going to pass it to? Smush Parker? Kwame Brown?

@nick hover It's okay to copy players. MJ was Kobe's idol growing up.

nick hover Kobe is not even top 10

He clearly isn’t tho

He’s number 15 in my book

He is the best player of all time whit Jordan and Kareem of course

Darius Robbins facts they was saying kobe was a top 4 player ever in 2010

@@coreytrepagnier9343 What did they say when he scored 81? Best player ever. Jordan's the GOAT, but in their positions I would want Kobe or Jordan. No one else compares, imo.

@Sterlin Jordan guess kobe better than ur mom

gimme a break, he tried to one up MJ but fell short. Being the poor mans anything is gonna knock you down any GOAT list. He wasnt a great shooter, a great passer or a great rebounder! He wasnt the best at anything he did except taking the most shots on his team. If he was a Buck or T'wolf he wouldnt even be in the goat conversation

@@rygesa I mostly agree with this. Kobe had a lot of great moments but was also pretty inefficient. And his insistence on hanging around just so he could say he played 20 years delayed the Lakers rebuild. Fun to watch but no GOAT

Frostshokula ok making the band and chappelle show..lol that was funny

Frostshokula the hottest of fires indeed

Frostshokula YOUR TOO CLOSE MON!!!

You a legend for this 😂😂

Facts

They’re not facts tho. Based on your own criteria Kobe wouldn’t be close to 5th, and certainly wouldn’t be 4 spots higher than Duncan who accomplished more, had far better longevity, won with worse teams, was a better 2 way player, had a higher peak (2003)....