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Kobe Bryant is not the second greatest player in NBA history, A.I. 

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@christianhernandez3787
@christianhernandez3787 5 месяцев назад
Kobe went to three straight finals after Shaq left, he lost to Boston in 08, beat Orlando in 09, and got his revenge on Boston in 2010. Kobe three year run to the finals is undervalued and taken for granted.
@kron277
@kron277 5 месяцев назад
Kobe won 5 chips but only led his team to two of those. Shaq was the finals mvp 3 straight years while Kobe rode shotgun!
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 5 месяцев назад
No you just over rating it, his team was incredible, Phil Jackson triangle worked AGAIN.
@DCFG92
@DCFG92 5 месяцев назад
@@kron277might wanna look at the 3rd title run
@van2.060
@van2.060 5 месяцев назад
@@kron277that is factually incorrect...Kobe dominated the playoffs in runs 2 and 3...Shaq dominated the Finals...
@cmitch1755
@cmitch1755 5 месяцев назад
He went after they got gasol odom then ron and he didn't win right after Shaq left they were losing and he was trying to go to Chicago tell tell the whole truth
@CCEkeke
@CCEkeke 5 месяцев назад
Allen Iverson played against Prime Jordan, Prime Kobe and Prime Lebron. His opinion trumps any sports commentator's, especially those who'd never played in the NBA. And at the end of the day, its Iverson's opinion. He does not have to bow down to the ESPN force-fed narrative.
@Randomnoobi
@Randomnoobi 5 месяцев назад
So Kobe is punished for playing with Shaq, but Lebron isn't penalized for hopping teams, stacking the deck wherever he goes, orchestrating over 70 trades, and playing with the likes of Bosh, Wade, Kyrie, Love, Ray Allen, Westbrook, Melo, Shaq, Dwight, and AD? Make it make sense.
@MauricioKing23
@MauricioKing23 5 месяцев назад
THANK YOU not to mention has lost more than he won 6 losses on his resume.
@SlapYou2Sleep
@SlapYou2Sleep 5 месяцев назад
None of them are Shaq so the argument isn’t valid. Imagine if Lebron played with a prime Shaq?
@howarddavid31
@howarddavid31 5 месяцев назад
Facts
@devvyzuko
@devvyzuko 5 месяцев назад
Bro stop it they both came straight out of hs lebron was Lebron from day 1 Kobe needed time and he had prime shaq
@imachamp88
@imachamp88 5 месяцев назад
@@devvyzukoIf Lebron had Del Harris as a coach in 1996 he would’ve had restricted minutes too
@wildflower2334
@wildflower2334 5 месяцев назад
Wtf! This man is with his ancestors! You can't kill or try to diminish Kobe's legacy and what he contributed to the league for 20yrs. Just stop it and let this man Rest in Peace!
@ROM0628
@ROM0628 5 месяцев назад
The fact that most players, past and present would pick Kobe over Lebron speaks volume.
@epiclegacy9
@epiclegacy9 5 месяцев назад
That’s because Bron is still playing, so when they view Lebron they see Lakers Lebron. They’re not thinking about him in his Prime. Sadly people won’t give Lebron more credit until he retires and have been away for awhile.
@ROM0628
@ROM0628 5 месяцев назад
@@epiclegacy9 they were already saying this even before Kobe retired tho. We’re talking about players that played against both in their prime, the majority choose Kobe over Lebron. Once Lebron retires, most likely the younger generation is gonna pick him over Kobe of course.
@225sosa
@225sosa 5 месяцев назад
i had to go look this up to confirm…they still chose Bron.🗣️overwhelming actually.
@daltonhill3628
@daltonhill3628 5 месяцев назад
​@@ROM0628 ur name has kobe so u a dick rider. But there people who played with mj and have lebron number 1 so ur point
@mybestnugget7514
@mybestnugget7514 5 месяцев назад
@@epiclegacy9it’s because Kobe is better at everything except passing
@K.Puri92
@K.Puri92 5 месяцев назад
Can’t stand how these commentators go out of their way to discredit Kobe. All of his peers say he’s Top 5.
@bigbromcgee7118
@bigbromcgee7118 5 месяцев назад
Exactly they didn’t have e this energy when he was alive.
@carloslerma3845
@carloslerma3845 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is the goat
@jmj5150
@jmj5150 5 месяцев назад
Its true... Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it discredits Kobe.. He's dead
@cookiecrafthd5749
@cookiecrafthd5749 5 месяцев назад
He not 2nd bro
@Gthang602
@Gthang602 5 месяцев назад
No one was saying Kobe was the GOAT, or 2nd til he died.
@zekesimmons718
@zekesimmons718 5 месяцев назад
Im startin to think its a hidden agenda to erase Kobe from history
@sashabelov566
@sashabelov566 5 месяцев назад
I think so too !!!!!
@realrealmreality9713
@realrealmreality9713 5 месяцев назад
he work too hard and gave to much into da game to be disrespected like this
@Max-ys3xg
@Max-ys3xg 4 месяца назад
I think it’s a hidden agenda to overhype Kobe as a top 3 player. AI literally said a year ago on his podcast that Bron was the goat and now he changes his mind? Here’s the link to the clip btw ru-vid.comD9p8wvORSaI?si=0N8rPAs4No0VmboL
@zekesimmons718
@zekesimmons718 4 месяца назад
@@Max-ys3xg 🤦🏾‍♂️
@rawpower12xu
@rawpower12xu 3 месяца назад
Erase? Put on his place I’d say
@avocaza1393
@avocaza1393 5 месяцев назад
Under LeBron ERA: - All-star game rule change - Play-in Tournament - In-season Tournament - 6 Finals losses - 2 Finals Sweeps - Team hopped 3 times - Played with 8 all-stars - Gave up 6 times in the playoffs - Called league office 3 times for foul calls I mean, how much more help does LeBron really need? How is this guy top 5, let alone top 2? Kobe is definitely ahead of LeBron in any rankings.
@Lkb2411
@Lkb2411 5 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@fabogold8673
@fabogold8673 5 месяцев назад
U forgot all time turnover leader
@joshuatorio2102
@joshuatorio2102 5 месяцев назад
and in his era. There is the 2015-2018 Warriors. 2013 -2017 Spurs. In his era, the warriors get KD just to beat him and his team. Before that, LeBron almost beat thr warriors in 2015 by him alone. No kyrie and no kevin love. 2017-2018 Lebron almost beat everybody except the warriors. All time greatest scorer. Top 10 in Rebounds and Assist. Top 20 in steals.
@augustinechoi9868
@augustinechoi9868 5 месяцев назад
@@fabogold8673 ikr! Lebron can't handle the heat during real crunch moments. All them turnovers from a guy that supposedly has "a high basketball IQ." I'm saying this as a Laker fan, who has seen a super self absorbed player in Lebron make some of the stupidest TO's that I have ever seen from a player of this "caliber." SMH
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 5 месяцев назад
@@joshuatorio2102 school him !!
@kseals27
@kseals27 5 месяцев назад
People keep forgetting that Kobe Bryant had a TAINTED IMAGE. The league couldn’t market Kobe but if we being honest he was the best from 03-10
@oliverbinafard3575
@oliverbinafard3575 5 месяцев назад
03-13
@keyshawnbrummett2695
@keyshawnbrummett2695 5 месяцев назад
You know some my boy
@mybestnugget7514
@mybestnugget7514 5 месяцев назад
That should be the top comment here. The league has had an agenda against Kobe since the incident in Colorado. If it wasn’t for that, everybody would embrace him in his rightful spot as the 2nd greatest
@onemoremic
@onemoremic 5 месяцев назад
May have been the best from 01-13
@jalentimothy6754
@jalentimothy6754 5 месяцев назад
2002-2013 he was the best player on the planet 🌎
@mjohnsonmj37
@mjohnsonmj37 5 месяцев назад
All u media heads give Kobe his damn respect
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 5 месяцев назад
Shit up, he tellin it like it is
@kevinjohnson9319
@kevinjohnson9319 5 месяцев назад
@@tkbaku3036put ur lebron Pom poms down
@terrencealexander6811
@terrencealexander6811 5 месяцев назад
Kobe 44% FG , 1 mvp and only 2 FMVP! Oh and he rode the bench as a rookie smh fanboy are delusional
@b2bclutchyuh887
@b2bclutchyuh887 5 месяцев назад
@@terrencealexander6811He made a all star starting lineup before the Lakers starting lineup because Del Harris wouldn’t budge 😂 And I forgot that the finals were the only series you had to win for the chip and not 3 others to get there. Check the playoff stats before talking stat sheet watcher 🤣🤦‍♂️
@terrencealexander6811
@terrencealexander6811 5 месяцев назад
@@b2bclutchyuh887 All star selections are based on votes it’s about popularity, Kobe was getting votes from his appearance on the tv show “Moesha”! And yes Chips are team accomplishment. Stats are objective that’s why I know them but I love watching basketball since 1988 to today!
@HurricaneBliss
@HurricaneBliss 5 месяцев назад
the disrespect for Kobe is insane
@BrandonHopkins-oj6jz
@BrandonHopkins-oj6jz 5 месяцев назад
Shit sad I will never respect Stephen A smith again
@jembagz
@jembagz 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is #2..All dayyyyy! #RIPMAMBA
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 5 месяцев назад
U delulu
@hoopstarhighlights
@hoopstarhighlights 5 месяцев назад
Nope you is kobe #2 ​@tkbaku3036
@jembagz
@jembagz 5 месяцев назад
@@tkbaku3036 who??
@TruthSpeaker4
@TruthSpeaker4 5 месяцев назад
@@tkbaku3036nah u are young boy
@DoloGomez
@DoloGomez 5 месяцев назад
I second that 🙋
@UltraSaltyDomer1776
@UltraSaltyDomer1776 5 месяцев назад
Will never forget Kobe. He was a living legend before dying.
@jesusmedrano32
@jesusmedrano32 5 месяцев назад
The level of disrespect towards Kobe amazes me. It's ridiculous how cats like Stephen A or Chris Broussatd, television personalities who's words carry wait for the casual fans out there, brush off Kobe like he was a bum. People who didn't see Kobe or can't think for themselves hear this, and assume it to be true. He's top 3 in my book, along with MJ & Kareem.
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 5 месяцев назад
Truth shouldn’t be considered disrespect
@giannafoxxx4008
@giannafoxxx4008 4 месяца назад
especially when the ppl that talk about him are known liars and got exposed....ya mr stephen a myth im talkin about u and ur lies
@dreway4161
@dreway4161 5 месяцев назад
Kobe was more skilled then the other players he naming
@mjohnsonmj37
@mjohnsonmj37 5 месяцев назад
Kobe top 5 definitely but my personal opinion he is number 2 on my list period
@dvm24
@dvm24 5 месяцев назад
Facts bro
@DarkSideDisciple
@DarkSideDisciple 5 месяцев назад
This Kobe blasphemy is outrageous‼️🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️
@Steve-jg9th
@Steve-jg9th 5 месяцев назад
This man is working for people who hate Kobe. Don’t listen to anything he says been a fool
@domdollaz9522
@domdollaz9522 5 месяцев назад
Crazy how he says Kobe had shaq for 3 rings but doesn’t mention how magic had the number one scorer of all time kareem for all 5 of his rings. All that Kobe hate is all because that Colorado case with a white woman. But Nobody wants to say it
@manz7860
@manz7860 5 месяцев назад
Lebron fans attack kareem and kobes legacies because they are objectively greater when It comes to WINNING. Tim Duncan isn't safe from shitty lebron fans either.
@jt9172
@jt9172 5 месяцев назад
They love bringing up shaq but fail to mention Kobes the ONLY player thats been called a sidekick to go on to go to 3 finals without their Hero. Pippen didnt do it, magic didnt do it, any of the all stars Lebron played with didnt do it. Kobes the ONLY one to be accused of being carried to go on to damn near 3 peat with a completely different superstar
@smfh_
@smfh_ 5 месяцев назад
Pip carried the bulls 55 wins and they wouldve went to finals if it werent for a bs call from the refs magic went to the finals w out kareem and probably would’ve made more if he didnt get hiv
@mybestnugget7514
@mybestnugget7514 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I realized a long time ago there was an agenda against Kobe because they call him a sidekick while averaging 33 7 and 7 against the Spurs, closed out the Blazers by himself, had 48 and 16 rebounds against the Kings, MEANWHILE, Kareem is a legit sidekick the last 5 years of his career, Tim Duncan is carried by Kawhi and Tony Parker and nobody says anything, LeBron gets carried by literally half of Team USA and the media acts like he’s winning by himself, Jordan never even won a single playoff series without Pippen, Magic and Kareem had each other, Shaq himself never won without a top 3 shooting guard, yet ONLY KOBE is criticized for having great teammates. It’s a blatant media agenda
@jt9172
@jt9172 5 месяцев назад
@@mybestnugget7514 Facts!
@smfh_
@smfh_ 5 месяцев назад
@@mybestnugget7514 when did lebron ever get carried in his career?? Pls remind me lmaooo i never heard that level of delusion before
@MrWagboola1
@MrWagboola1 5 месяцев назад
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@willawentertainment
@willawentertainment 5 месяцев назад
First off, getting to the NBA Finals in the East when it was considered “The Least” is not saying something. Kobe making it to 7 NBA Finals in the West, which has been the best conference for almost 25 years, means more then 10 NBA Finals trips coming from the East. And actually winning 5 of 7 means a lot.
@Ericoo365
@Ericoo365 5 месяцев назад
Exactly!!! These ppl just throw out numbers and accomplishments like there’s no context to them lol smh
@XEVN7
@XEVN7 5 месяцев назад
Thank you. These fools use the dumbest arguments and disregard the most important smh
@aeriskabkr1110
@aeriskabkr1110 5 месяцев назад
stephen A afraid to lose his job just like other analyst.. so they simply push the mj vs lebron debate by removing kobe, since the mamba was the closest thing to mj...stephen A had lebronze at 2 which is laughable
@chito4
@chito4 5 месяцев назад
Facts, not only was the East pathetic, but Lebron went and teamed up with the best shooting guard in the East along with one of the best bigs in the East. The media completely ignores he lost two finals with his superteam, including one of the most embarrassing performances for a superstar in ‘11 finals
@lightningjuniorsuper
@lightningjuniorsuper 5 месяцев назад
Ah so now we punishing Lebron for eastern’s teams outside of Boston and Indiana, to draft and or trade players and hire the right staff around them. Nice. 😂
@bpxterry
@bpxterry 5 месяцев назад
People need to rewatch the three peat including the playoffs to see just how crucial Kobe was during that 3 peat..
@MrEliasdl
@MrEliasdl 5 месяцев назад
Those games were nail biters and Shaq was in witness protection due to his atrocious free throws. Kobe won those series that got them to the finals. He was the relentless engine start to finish.
@lamonthicks1068
@lamonthicks1068 5 месяцев назад
Let's say he won two titles without Shaq and scored 81 pts in a game second to Wilt and footwork is second to Hakim and to quote all his peers killer instinct second to Jordan and never played on a super team and work ethic is unmatched c'mon man...carry on!
@pokerNGold
@pokerNGold 5 месяцев назад
Stephen A. Brings up the fact Kobe’s first 3 rings were with prime Shaq but Lebrons first two rings came with Wade & Bosh. Wade had to tell LeBron in their second season together that it was his team and he needed to lead. No one ever needed to tell Kobe they needed him to take the lead. Kobe knew exactly what & who he was from the moment he entered the NBA even when they weren’t giving him playing time on the court because of the politics back then of a young player being able to come in from high school and take over.
@terrencealexander6811
@terrencealexander6811 5 месяцев назад
Every stars rings comes with great teammates mj/pip/rodman, KG/Paul,Ray Curry/KD/Klay etc! Nobody wins it solo!
@reactking7093
@reactking7093 5 месяцев назад
Lebron was the finals MVP. Kobe was robin three straight times. There's no comparison.
@delconagher12
@delconagher12 5 месяцев назад
Lebron's rings came of superteams. 1st two meant destroying 2 playoff teams, that's the Cavs and Raptors. These fools like SAS don't know what they're talking about.
@sosaraycharles358
@sosaraycharles358 5 месяцев назад
Prime Shaq> Wade & Bosh
@FlexSZN23
@FlexSZN23 5 месяцев назад
Wade even admitted that they formed that superteam cause Kobe was so dominant during that time. Kobe played the cards he was dealt and grinded. Lebron has been stacking the deck in his favor ever since he went to Miami. No player in any sport has that amount of power in choosing teammates and to only win 4 championships with that type of leeway is absurd. Yet Kobe gets crucified for playing with Shaq. We never hear Magic get punished for having Kareem or Bird for having McHale, or Lebron having Wade/Kevin love/bosh/Allen/AD.
@DamienGWilson
@DamienGWilson 5 месяцев назад
I’m taking A.I.’s opinion over Stephen A. Smith’s opinion everyday of the week. The fact is A.I. played against both Jordan and Kobe, not to mention so many other top-100 all-time players, and so his opinion carries more weight.
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 5 месяцев назад
Ai said bron is the Goat …. Like literally said this last year
@darrelljones3850
@darrelljones3850 5 месяцев назад
SaS talking in circles ,Kobe first three rings with Shaq, but you can say the same thing about LeBron his 2 ring is with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh . But Kobe won his 2 rings after Shaq with only Paul Gasol while LeBron won with kyrie Irving and AD clearly better player than Gasol . Let's be realistic, Kobe scoring average would've been much higher if he didn't play with Shaq. What gets me if LeBron played with a prime Shaq LeBron would be the second option also.
@johnjovanovichwick4194
@johnjovanovichwick4194 5 месяцев назад
@@tkbaku3036 they wanna ignore this tho these cats will change like the wind Bron must’ve told Ai he can’t hang wit da gang 🤣🤣
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 5 месяцев назад
@@tkbaku3036 Yeah it seems like a lot of athletes change their minds and say different things all the time.
@Rooski245
@Rooski245 5 месяцев назад
AI straight up said Lebron is the goat. So you do you
@b2bclutchyuh887
@b2bclutchyuh887 5 месяцев назад
I really don’t get the Magic vs Kobe. The same thing held against Kobe is completely ignored with Magic. He played with many peoples admission, a top 3 player ever, for basically his entire career. He was given 1 of his FMVPs because Kareem wasn’t at the arena during his rookie year. And had Kareem and Worthy won FMVP over him while playing together while Kobe had Shaq for 3 of his 5 titles.
@asantethabethe8611
@asantethabethe8611 5 месяцев назад
Docking Kobe for playing with Shaq but not docking Magic or Kareem for playing with each other is ridiculous
@robreeto
@robreeto 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is #2 in my eyes, Lebron couldnt take the Killer Bs to back to back championships
@jareljones3911
@jareljones3911 5 месяцев назад
Stephen A wouldn’t have said this to Kobe’s face when he was alive
@DuckDaPhillyFan
@DuckDaPhillyFan 5 месяцев назад
Yes he would’ve.
@JS67137
@JS67137 5 месяцев назад
Let's be honest. He would have.
@FreeAgent797
@FreeAgent797 5 месяцев назад
It's clear you have no idea how bold Stephen A. Smith is🤣🤣
@jareljones3911
@jareljones3911 5 месяцев назад
@@FreeAgent797no he wouldn’t have and didn’t
@raymondsims7042
@raymondsims7042 5 месяцев назад
@@jareljones3911I’ve never heard him list Kobe at 2 when he was alive mate. I’m just being honest
@mikecarroll9110
@mikecarroll9110 5 месяцев назад
The fact that Kobe destroyed the best Celtics team I have ever seen and I am a Celtics fan. I cried that night, but I had to admit him. he was literally the best player I had ever seen besides jordan ,he was unstoppable.
@RevengeoftheVirgo
@RevengeoftheVirgo 4 месяца назад
Unstoppable? Bro go look at those box scores. Why everyone act like Pau Gasol,Ron Artest, and Lamar Odom were bums. All 3 were drafted top 10. All of them made multiple All-Star teams. Ron Artest was DPOY. Lamar was the 6th man of the year. Pau was considered one of the most skilled big men and was a top 5 center for a while. Kobe had plenty of help.
@curtismela216
@curtismela216 5 месяцев назад
He was once challenged by shannon that magic ddnt win without kareem and he responded "thats a stry for another day"
@SaulRideEnduroMTB
@SaulRideEnduroMTB 5 месяцев назад
Kobe #2 Greatest Basketball in NBA history!!!
@mr.jingles9362
@mr.jingles9362 5 месяцев назад
he better than mj
@danielolugbemi
@danielolugbemi 5 месяцев назад
i genuinely think if you take kobe’s career in context he’s really the greatest ever. when you consider his era the teams the coaching the style of play the defense (zone) worst shooting era of all time when you consider off the court too when you consider work ethic obsessiveness no way he’s not the greatest kobe’s run in the playoffs from 08-10 is the toughest of any all time great.
@edwinyounes4934
@edwinyounes4934 5 месяцев назад
@@danielolugbemii genuinely think you meat riders don’t know shit about basketball…
@jonissesmarchadesch7025
@jonissesmarchadesch7025 5 месяцев назад
@@mr.jingles9362sorry but no
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 5 месяцев назад
HE AND THE ANSWER OVER MJ OR LEBRON!!!
@Mr.Scimitar
@Mr.Scimitar 5 месяцев назад
Hold on, Shaq wouldn't have gotten his 3 rings if he didn't have Kobe
@howarddavid31
@howarddavid31 5 месяцев назад
MAJOR FACTS
@jsutigers8954
@jsutigers8954 5 месяцев назад
Kobe also bailed them out after Shaq fouled out against Indiana....also LeBron had Wade & Chris...come on dude
@darrelljones3965
@darrelljones3965 5 месяцев назад
Hell no Kobe averaged 15 in the first Championship he was a co start but that was shaqs team that’s why he has 3 finals mvps
@jsutigers8954
@jsutigers8954 5 месяцев назад
@@darrelljones3965 who did LeBron have?
@Von.NorthEnd
@Von.NorthEnd 5 месяцев назад
@@darrelljones3965Kobe got injured in that series goofball, missed that game and the next. Ofc something like that is going to effect numbers
@ronricco9408
@ronricco9408 5 месяцев назад
As dominant as Shaq was Phil Jackson didn’t have to ask Shaq to tone it down or they would lose Kobe. When he asked Kobe that Kobe was on a run of how many straight 40point games? Since he was in a lakers uniform there were people dimming his light, toning him down, trying to get the ball out his hand.
@cellgeist6889
@cellgeist6889 5 месяцев назад
This generation is all about participation trophy and social media influence. Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Bird etc are the true legends. LeBron? Please, don't even mention his overrated name anymore.
@user-uj6zz2ii5k
@user-uj6zz2ii5k 5 месяцев назад
Kobe number 2 Rest In Peace 🙏🏿
@renekency4886
@renekency4886 5 месяцев назад
That hypocrisy from him is insane. We gon ignore that lebron won his 2 first rings with D wade who was top 5 player in 2011. Please give the Mamba his respect. Most of the players who played against both. Almost pick kobe over lebron.
@raymondsims7042
@raymondsims7042 5 месяцев назад
Why do you lads only focus on lebron all the time? Why not focus on the garbage he said about Kobe vs magic? Kobe is obviously ahead of magic and yet this imbecile says that’s debatable
@goku..7
@goku..7 5 месяцев назад
Dude even with super teams is a loser 2011 choke like no tomorrow
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 5 месяцев назад
DWade is likely considered the 3rd best shooting guard of all time. Ray Allen was considered the best shooter of all time before Curry but that's okay to the klutch talking heads... LeBron did it all on his own
@dillonsparks115
@dillonsparks115 5 месяцев назад
​@@iTuber012ray Allen was at the end of his career wade wasn't anywhere near his 06 as his knees were ripped apart by many surgeries the only one u can say would be bosh since I don't think he had any issues with blood clots till lebron left
@Rich-km7pr
@Rich-km7pr 5 месяцев назад
💯💯👏🏾👏🏾
@NZFeliciano
@NZFeliciano 5 месяцев назад
I'm usually on Stephen A. Smith side of things. But did y'all just forget What Kobe was like ?? Like the competition he faced in the west and also getting it done in the finals. Kobe was that dude man. I just find it crazy y'all forgot what that Killa use to do to everyone 🤣
@thebitcoinballer3206
@thebitcoinballer3206 5 месяцев назад
1. jordan (not even close to an argument) 2. shaq lebron kobe kareem, magic, wilt (arguments can be made for alll as 2nd best ever) anyone without a bias would have something similar to say here
@ItsYurVatoAlex
@ItsYurVatoAlex 5 месяцев назад
What I don’t understand is why Kobe gets shit for winning 3 with Shaq, when Magic had Kareem for all his rings? Kobe still won 2 without a top 75 player. Not tryna argue, but just tryna understand why things like that get overlooked when discrediting Kobe
@Michael-tc1dm
@Michael-tc1dm 5 месяцев назад
Kobe road the bench his first year with Shaq. Let's not forget he got saved from choking by the refs in game 7 against the celts.
@billywayne8300
@billywayne8300 5 месяцев назад
I don’t understand it myself it’s asinine
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 5 месяцев назад
And don’t forget, not only did magic have Kareem for all five but the last three he had James worthy for James worthy has a finals MVP on one of magics. They want to bury Kobe so bad, because they wanted to make the argument that LeBron is the goat, but they can’t have the Jordan versus LeBron debate, if Kobe is in the way. This is how disgusting these people are. Kobe isn’t even here to defend themselves and they are just pissing all over his legacy. I expect that from Beta males like Nick Wright but Stephen a Smith was there for Kobe Bryant. That was his friend. Stephen Smith is too smart he knows LeBron has had more help and less competition than anybody and I thought he had enough money that he didn’t need clutch sports but maybe I was wrong.
@Michael-tc1dm
@Michael-tc1dm 5 месяцев назад
@bdr113080 magic was an original while kobe was a generic lesser version of jordan.
@ItsYurVatoAlex
@ItsYurVatoAlex 5 месяцев назад
@@Michael-tc1dm yup, no one copied MJ like Kobe did, thats true. But no one has done it as successfully either. And a “generic” version of MJ is hardly a bad thing lol
@magnifyvideoco
@magnifyvideoco 5 месяцев назад
Most NBA players say differently from yall media folks. That should tell you something!
@johnjovanovichwick4194
@johnjovanovichwick4194 5 месяцев назад
No they don’t the legends say LeBron is the greatest
@magnifyvideoco
@magnifyvideoco 5 месяцев назад
@@johnjovanovichwick4194 I'm not arguing who is at what ranking. I'm talking about how they rank kobe overall, the media. Most players have kobe ranked at least top 5.
@johnjovanovichwick4194
@johnjovanovichwick4194 5 месяцев назад
@@magnifyvideoco as far as not being fair to Kobe is that what you saying? If so I do get it
@igottsole
@igottsole 5 месяцев назад
@@johnjovanovichwick4194u sound dumb af.
@Ackshuallymmm
@Ackshuallymmm 5 месяцев назад
What is it a popularity contest? Y'all running out of arguments now. Lebron clears Kobe easily.
@zekerton7262
@zekerton7262 5 месяцев назад
Kobe had 12 defensive selections? Wow
@onemoremic
@onemoremic 5 месяцев назад
Defense isn't important to the media. So those don't count. Staying back on defense, allowing the other team to play 5 on 4 is what dudes like Stephen A like. That's Goat tier basketball to people of that ilk
@MrThepeacefulone
@MrThepeacefulone 5 месяцев назад
I love seeing all the love on this page from the Fans. We know! Long live the Mamba!! Thank you AI.
@Juan_nicolas4
@Juan_nicolas4 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is #2 in my imo
@chito4
@chito4 5 месяцев назад
Man so quick to point out first three were with Shaq but no mention how Lebrons first two were with a Superteam (and still lost two finals embarrassingly). Cavs title was another superteam attempt he jumped to after Miami aged. Then he runs to the Lakers and immediately starts planning a trade for AD, gathers high quality role players and won a bubble chip. It’s not that we want to put Kobe as #2, it’s that we refuse to put him behind Lebron. I can accept Kareem, Magic, hell even Duncan has a case to be in top 5
@billywayne8300
@billywayne8300 5 месяцев назад
🎯
@brandoncooper439
@brandoncooper439 5 месяцев назад
At the same time he’s saying Shaq is a different situation, he was the best player in the league at the time of the lakers 3 peat, Kobe was the robin to his Batman. That was never the case with lebron and Dwayne wade and bosh aren’t two of the top 10 players of all time. Not the same comparison Stephen a is right . Lebron is definitely ahead of Kobe he is always the “shaq” of his teams 4 finals mvp 4 rings add it up!
@aeriskabkr1110
@aeriskabkr1110 5 месяцев назад
wait a minute, lebron had shaq, didn't he?😂 kobe won with shaq, dwade won with shaq so how come lebronze can't win with shaq? lebron was winning bronzes before kobe arrived in Redeem team
@goku..7
@goku..7 5 месяцев назад
Dude is being paid by teh lebron agenda nobody in mbs history has had so many all star players like lebron and even like that lebron choke in 2011 finals
@chito4
@chito4 5 месяцев назад
@@brandoncooper439 thing is there is no 3 peat without Kobe. Yeah Shaq dominated the finals but Kobe did work in the West series as well, where the real competition was. Can’t take away the three peat he contributed significantly to as a young player. Even Stephen A often says Lebron had to join Wade to learn how to win. What you’re ignoring is that the Heat were heavy favorites to win titles because nobody in the league could match up talent wise. Dwayne was top 5 in the league at the time, Bosh was one of the best bigs in the game. It’s a fair comparison. Fact is while being the overwhelming favorites, the Heat lost two finals and barely beat the Spurs in 2013. Nobody ever brings up how all of Lebrons championships were won by jumping from team to team and immediately acquiring all star talent. Even with the Lakers he attempted more superteams with Russ and was even begging Kawhi to join him. This dude is all time at running away from the grind.
@Ainttrippin
@Ainttrippin 5 месяцев назад
"GREATEST" is pretty immeasurable. Kobe inspired and entire generation of fans to either love him or hate him. Defenses were terrified of him. He was a KILLER scorer and put LA on his shoulders. I can see someone putting that stuff over MVP's and "finals appearances"
@keezy2swag
@keezy2swag 5 месяцев назад
KD ballin with the Mad 😠 face like Iverson is crazy !!
@oliverbinafard3575
@oliverbinafard3575 5 месяцев назад
Kobe’s the last player to make it 5 straight all nba and 5 straight all defense 1st team as well for 5 years in a row. Look it up
@lMike2Dopel
@lMike2Dopel 5 месяцев назад
It's just funny how many people consider MJ the GOAT but then fault Kobe for being a carbon copy of the "GOAT" but for some reason it ends up being a knock against him not being the 2nd or even 3rd best player. It's criminal to have him outside the top 5 of all time
@dvm24
@dvm24 5 месяцев назад
I hate the trend of people putting him at like #8 and other clueless people agreeing just to “sound smart”… the late legend deserves so much more respect man
@n.dewayneb9258
@n.dewayneb9258 5 месяцев назад
Kobe’s first 3 rings were won alongside Shaq. All 6 of MJ’s rings came with HOF’s Pippen and Phil Jackson. So what are you saying bruh? That’s not an indictment on Kobe’s greatness. His playoff averages are legit and he accomplished a lot.
@zwelimbona2952
@zwelimbona2952 5 месяцев назад
What's wrong with placing Kobe Bryant in the top five NBA all-time greats, let alone allowing basketball purists having their opinions? The Black Mamba's place remains undisputed. #RIPMamba
@JesseOmezi
@JesseOmezi 5 месяцев назад
Every year we talk about “lebron needs more help” yet Kobe wanted Shaq gone and went to three straight finals, winning two and they act like Kobe being better than Lebron is so outlandish. The disrespect is real
@onemoremic
@onemoremic 5 месяцев назад
It's not outlandish, it is the absolute truth. How many rings would LeBron have if he didn't superteam it up, maybe one. Kobe did the opposite of forming a superteam and still ended up with 5 rings. The best win titles, the rest compare their stats. I honestly don't credit LeBron with a single legitimate championship as things stand now. LBJ is closer to Charles Barkley and Karl Malone than he is to Mike or Kobe
@DuhJuan
@DuhJuan 5 месяцев назад
So was superteams never formed before lebron?? Yall act like there’s never been big 3s before the Heat. There was a big 3 formed in Boston before lebron went to Miami.. Ray Allen, Pierce, KG…yall sound crazy in here. You got Bird, Parrish, mchale. Jordan pippen Rodman/horace grant. Magic, worthy, Kareem. Kobe, gasol, Odom/fisher. Nash, stoudemire, Marion. DR. J, Moses Malone, Barkley. Melo, AI, billups. Billups, Rip, Ben and Rasheed Wallace, tayshaun. Rudy Gay, Z-Bo, Marc gasol/mike Conley. Duncan, ginobili, TP/kawhi… Please stop with the lebron big 3 narrative…it’s dumb and very redundant to the sport of basketball. Everybody has played with superstars…stop it!
@JesseOmezi
@JesseOmezi 5 месяцев назад
@@DuhJuan honestly…I have no idea what you’re talking about. No said anything about super teams. I’m just saying how Kobe’s path was harder and yet these “analysts” wonder why so many have Kobe ahead of Lebron. That’s all
@DuhJuan
@DuhJuan 5 месяцев назад
@@onemoremicnone of my messages was towards you. I replied to who I was responding to
@DuhJuan
@DuhJuan 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@JesseOmezibut to respond to your comment, Kobe isn’t ahead of Lebron at all. He’s had help as well. Whether it was shaq, fisher, horry (who saved them multiple times in the playoffs from eliminations) to gasol, Odom, artest (who saved him as well) and Fish. And he did not have it harder than lebron. Lebron was scrutinized since he was In HS, he had “great” expectations since he was 15-16 years old. He came in the league and took the last place Cavs to the finals in 4 years. Kobe came into a storied franchise and played with multiple superstars and a great coach. How did he have it harder than Bron?
@uzzy909
@uzzy909 5 месяцев назад
To say putting Kobe #2 is blasphemous, is even more blasphemous
@SO_S55m
@SO_S55m 5 месяцев назад
The majority of players who competed against both pick Kobe. I will trust their judgement over TV commentators.
@morm2173
@morm2173 5 месяцев назад
I remember crying like an infant when Kobe andy grandfather passed
@themightyruler1319
@themightyruler1319 5 месяцев назад
Kobe absolutely has an easy case in the top 5. If we’re being real Kobe has the second best NBA performance ever based on the “game score” stat. Second only to MJ’s 69 point masterpiece against the Cavs. So only one player in history has proven to have a bigger one game impact than Kobe, everyone else is several levels below him. Kobe also has the highest pace adjusted PPG in nba history, not even Wilt or Jordan were quite the explosive scorer Kobe was. Kobe scored 81 points, the highest since wilt in 1962!!!! Arguably the greatest game ever played and inarguably a truly remarkable record. Kobe’s 9 strait 40 point games is the highest since Jordan did the same thing in 1986!!!! I don’t wanna type an essay, but Kobe beat more elite competition than anyone and at his peak was as good as anyone who’s played, besides MJ out of respect for the goat. I’d probably put him 3rd. Out of every all time player, Kobe’s career is the most misunderstood and disrespected. There’s a reason most hold Kobe and Jordan in such high regard, objectively no one else in history had the impact they had, especially in dominating one game. I don’t think anyone was really better at basketball than Kobe, besides Jordan due to extreme physical gifts (huge hands + ridiculous athleticism + supreme skill)
@Michael-tc1dm
@Michael-tc1dm 5 месяцев назад
Nice story. Stats don't lie, kobe is top 7 or 8 at most. He was inefficient ( career 44% fg ) and made nobody better.
@cozyfades1587
@cozyfades1587 5 месяцев назад
Not only do you gotta make a case for him over Bron but you gotta make a case for him over Kareem too. And what you just listed ain't really doin it. Donovan Mitchell had the third highest game score after Kobe and MJ lol.
@themightyruler1319
@themightyruler1319 5 месяцев назад
@@cozyfades1587 That's your opinion. The NBA today is a joke in my opinion. Anyone can drop 30-10-10, due to no defense, high pace, blatant travels and carries not being called, etc. It's just an absolute circus. It seems like you looked up the game score stat, which is good, but what you must understand is that the stat doesn't take into account PACE OF PLAY. Kobe did it in the slowest era of all time. Once you adjust for pace of play Kobe blows even MJ out of the water, as the 2000's were the slowest era in NBA history. Mitchell had a great game, but once adjusted for pace its value takes a big hit. I think he definitely has a case over Bron and Kareem, but If someone has Kareem two that's fine to me. But Kareem won one title before Magic got there, so people need to really do some research when discussing Kareem, greatest center of all time though imo. The media has been brainwashing most fans for a very long time. I believe Kobe's career is misunderstood by 90% of fans, and they have been told for a long time that Kobe is "inefficient", or "got carried by Shaq". Sad but I'll educate those that need it.
@SdotWilll
@SdotWilll 5 месяцев назад
Field goal percentage doesn’t equate to efficiency it’s accuracy that’s why they have the PER stat ..
@terrencealexander6811
@terrencealexander6811 5 месяцев назад
Top 5 all time: LBJ,MJ, Magic, Kareem TD the Greatest at their positions! Kobe is in the top 10
@COLDHRTDKILLA
@COLDHRTDKILLA 5 месяцев назад
Forget championships. Forget awards. Lets talk Ball. Kobe Bryant gave more to basketball than anyone else period. The foot work. The knowledge. The sacrifice. Kobe gave more to basketbball than anyone ever has or will. RIP MAMBA. You all can call your BS GOATS. Kobe gave his body, soul, and pride more than any player ever. Never gave excuses. Never changed who he was. Im a 80s child. I watched the bad boY Pistons. Birds amazing celtics. Jordans 90s teams. Basketball saved my life as a kid. Its all I knew. Kobe is easily the Goat IMO.
@raymondsims7042
@raymondsims7042 5 месяцев назад
Everything you said is facts and I agree with you,except for when you say he’s the “goat” that would need to take more objective measures for you to come to that conclusion. He doesn’t have a case for being the goat if you can’t back that up with his resume and production. However he is by far my favorite and always will be for the reasons you listed.
@oliverbinafard3575
@oliverbinafard3575 5 месяцев назад
I agree. Kobe is the goat
@rickcistrunk2208
@rickcistrunk2208 5 месяцев назад
Kobe Bryant 12 all defensive teams 9 first teams and 3 second teams defense wins championships Kobe Bryant did not run from the competitiveness of the best player on the other time. He said on many occasions he could not sleep at night if he didn't try to stop him. That was the defensive defensive end of the game. Pure hall of Famer on the defensive end. Oh you know what it was on the offensive end.
@mybestnugget7514
@mybestnugget7514 5 месяцев назад
You don’t have to forget awards. If you add all defensive team selections and all NBA selections, Kobe is only 2nd to Jordan
@COLDHRTDKILLA
@COLDHRTDKILLA 5 месяцев назад
@@raymondsims7042 He is the most skilled player ever. Its not even cloase. Just as good everywhere as Jordan, except the perimiter where he was better. Jordan played in the flow of the offense. Kobe went at everyone on both sides. Jordan did not. Even Phil Jackson said this.
@kayshaun3350
@kayshaun3350 5 месяцев назад
yall saying lebron hopping to make super teams when in reality he’s the one who makes them “super”
@howarddavid31
@howarddavid31 5 месяцев назад
Just the fact that Kobe made 9 first team defense & 3 second team should hold him much higher in the media but we all know their narrative.
@viciroyal7364
@viciroyal7364 5 месяцев назад
How is Lebron over Kobe? How? Naw SAS clearly you and Kobe wasn’t that cool. Folks try to play these games stop how many did shaq win without Kobe or before Kobe stop the Kobe Slander when folks share their honest opinion from playing the man
@jt9172
@jt9172 5 месяцев назад
Kobe has to be #2 because the media is trying SO hard to protect their chosen one😂Greatness doesn't have to be protected or shoved down anyone's throats. It just IS. The media rides lebron so HARD. And stephen acting like A.I.s the only professional to ever say this is hilarious
@Osei_Bean_8ryant
@Osei_Bean_8ryant 5 месяцев назад
Any time an argument for a playoff starts with numbers you know the fix is in.
@Bryce-qh9rt
@Bryce-qh9rt 5 месяцев назад
The momba mentality is always goated. No one had heart like Kobe
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 5 месяцев назад
I would give Kobe more credit, for his two rings, with Pau Gasol, than I would LeBron, for his two titles with D-Wade, Ray Allen and Bosh. A lot of player can win rings with Wade and Bosh. Who was Pau winning anything with, before Kobe? Wade won a ring, with nobody but an over-the-hill Shaq.
@Ackshuallymmm
@Ackshuallymmm 5 месяцев назад
Who was Tye Lue before Lebron? We can do this all day. He left Cleveland because they were a terrible franchise, the season he left they went from a 60 win team to a lottery team. Gasol and the refs also literally saved Kobe's legacy in the 10 finals. Stop this nonsense.
@kip6186
@kip6186 5 месяцев назад
😀😀😀and Chris Bosh was winning what 😀😀😀if it’s so easy why all these other guys joining up can’t do it
@mwebster3265
@mwebster3265 5 месяцев назад
Stop it. 🙄🙄Kobe also had Ron Artest, Lamar Odom, Derrick Fisher, Trevor Ariza and Andrew Bynum on the same squad with Pau Gasol... before Lamar and Andrew started having their issues.
@VicFM
@VicFM 5 месяцев назад
With an Old Ray Allen and an inconsistent, Chris Bosh. Vs a Hall of Fame coach in Phil Jackson, Pau GAZOL, Lamar, Odom. Robert Horry, Derek Fisher. Andrew Bynum. Metta world peace. We know you don’t like LeBron and you’re just a casual.
@van2.060
@van2.060 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@mwebster3265😂😂😂 man Artest was on his way outta of the league, Bynum had one All Star year, Fisher was shit in Utah without Kobe, Ariza was a good fit but not a all star caliber player, and LO who I loved was just a good/talented player before playing with Kobe..not the same as Kyrie, Love, Bosh, Wade, Allen, and Anthonu Davis...5 of those guys are for sure HOFamers and Love is a possible cause of his numbers in Minnesota, the all star game, and the ring....so thos comment was stupid on its face lol
@gio7388
@gio7388 5 месяцев назад
My problem with this is that there are a lot of factors and it’s honestly an unfair comparison to compare players who played at different times, even with overlap. Rules change, style of play changes, etc. The pace today is higher and players shoot more 3s. In ‘96 (when Kobe was drafted) coaches didn’t let rookies play much so out of the gate LeBron had an advantage on individual accomplishments. LeBron played with super teams once he went to Miami and in an easier conference. His greatest competition was Boston who only won once and Toronto who never made it to the Finals. Kobe played in a tough western conference and actually did well against the Spurs. Something no one else in this conversation can say. Kobe’s best teammate in his post Shaq career was Gasol. Gasol was a great player, but he wasn’t D Wade, AD, or Kyrie. Kobe has the most wins against 50 win teams in the playoffs - a record that should hold for a long time. When they actually guarded each other (not just playing in the same game) Kobe won those head to heads despite being smaller. I think the main difference between the two is that LeBron is a better floor raiser. He’ll get your team to go deep in the playoffs no matter what the roster is - almost guaranteed. Kobe though is the one who once your team is good enough to be a title contender is going to get a win more times than not. His 2 losses in the Finals were against the Celtics who also beat LeBron and the Pistons when he had a toxic locker room (feuds with Shaq and Karl Malone) and off the court distractions (rape trial). Which by the way, that rape trial is when the media turned on him. No player has 12 All NBA defensive awards while also having 30k points. I didn’t even get into adjusting numbers for pace or style of play (guys shoot more 3s now and also shoot them at higher percentages because they take more of them). At the end of the day, you had to watch them both play and there is no right answer, but Kobe belongs in the conversation despite what stats may say. Otherwise if you want to be so attached to stats without context then Wilt is the GOAT.
@phillipcotton833
@phillipcotton833 5 месяцев назад
There is no " rule change", or " style change" that supercedes SELFISHNESS!!! How do you escape Steven A's comparison between Kobe/ Magic/ Shaq??? Magic FLOURISHES with Shaq....Kobe wanted him gone. Nuff said
@NicholasHorton-je6zf
@NicholasHorton-je6zf 5 месяцев назад
I’m gonna take Gasol over AD personally. AD on his bad nights…I’ve never wanted to come through a TV screen more and backhand someone. When Phil Jackson was asked about the Jordan vs Kobe question, he said Jordan. The reason he said was Jordan had bigger hands 😮
@PeterParker-wj3cr
@PeterParker-wj3cr 5 месяцев назад
I respectfully disagree with the Lebron superteam narrative. Especially since nobody considers the Boston team a superteam with Kg, Pierce and Rondo. But i will agree with you that its hard to compare players from different era's. That in itself makes this debate impossible to have. At the end of the day. This debate is strictly for entertainment. For those old enough to remember. The nba went into panic mode once Jordan retired the first time. That's when "who is the next Jordan" took off. That's when "There will never be another Jordan" commenced. However this is purely an emotional and subjective topic. No matter who is on ur list. No matter which side of the fence we are on. We all will cherry pick stats to confirm our convictions. At the end of the day. This debate is the greatest form of marketing i've every seen. This truly will stand the test of time!
@phillipcotton833
@phillipcotton833 5 месяцев назад
@@PeterParker-wj3cr well said 👌!
@PeterParker-wj3cr
@PeterParker-wj3cr 5 месяцев назад
@@phillipcotton833 If your ever at a boring event. Or if you want to start your very own youtube page and you need engagement. Just bring up the Jordan debate..lol
@NightSkyeLiving
@NightSkyeLiving 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is #2! Pretty much right there with MJ on every level.
@DOLPHIN1266
@DOLPHIN1266 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is EASILY #2 behind MJ. The media only mentions Lebron because he is still alive and playing. They know this foolish debate draws anger and therefore lucrative.
@neal99
@neal99 5 месяцев назад
Kobe Bryant was the second greatest behind Michael Jordan there is no doubting it everyone has said he is the closest thing to Jordan and Jordan was the greatest every NBA player that has played against him and LeBron knows Kobe was way better than LeBron
@Ackshuallymmm
@Ackshuallymmm 5 месяцев назад
Lebron has a winning record against Kobe all time. Lol.
@neal99
@neal99 5 месяцев назад
@@Ackshuallymmm we're talking about individual player LeBron is codependent needs others to win Kobe can dominate himself big difference two different levels LeBron just don't got it
@Soultrain11
@Soultrain11 5 месяцев назад
​@@neal99please list the individual statistical criteria you used to determine Kobe's better without listing free throws
@raymondsims7042
@raymondsims7042 5 месяцев назад
@@Soultrain11he can’t unfortunately
@neal99
@neal99 5 месяцев назад
@@Soultrain11 just the product Kobe displayed on the court was way more dominant people feared him more winning success than LeBron it's about coming out on top what's LeBron has failed to do with 15 different All-Stars just the fact you have a fundamental flaw can't shoot a free throw no go to move straight disqualified from any goat conversation with that swiss cheese game holes all up in it
@bryceanthony9768
@bryceanthony9768 5 месяцев назад
Greatness can also be about who you beat to get there. With Kobe’s 5 rings look at the teams he beat to get there. Those 2000s Spurs teams. Tmac and Yaos rockets. Melos Nuggets. Nashs Suns. And that’s without mentioning the Kings and Blazers of the early 2000s. Unless we’re talking big 3 Celtics everything was a cake walk for Lebron until he got to the finals
@mellowtones1985
@mellowtones1985 5 месяцев назад
And Bron came up short the year him and Kobe was suppose to meet in the finals.
@bryceanthony9768
@bryceanthony9768 5 месяцев назад
@@mellowtones1985 yep. Twice. 09 it was Howard’s Magic. 2010. Was the Celtics
@nou474
@nou474 5 месяцев назад
The late 2010’s warriors was better than any of those 2000 teams except for maybe the spurs
@avocaza1393
@avocaza1393 5 месяцев назад
@@nou474 And yet, Warriors big 3 production was about the same with the teams Kobe faced. People think of Warriors and they automatically think they scored like 150 points per game lmao. Besides KD Warriors, those Warriors team would perform about the same with league averages during 2000's era rules.
@nou474
@nou474 5 месяцев назад
@@avocaza1393 there is a reason they have the best win record in a season just without KD. The rockets were not as good as the warriors and especially Melo and Nash if they were the ones leading their teams alone.
@DaleMiller-km4fn
@DaleMiller-km4fn Месяц назад
95% of players have Kobe and mike above everyone else and say its hard to put kobe below Mike
@jerryfrenchy4152
@jerryfrenchy4152 5 месяцев назад
How a media dude gon tell someone who played all 3 of these guys he’s wrong nah wtf is the world coming too
@phillipwilliams8674
@phillipwilliams8674 5 месяцев назад
Bro Kobe was literally locking mfs up 😅
@rollandcurtis874
@rollandcurtis874 5 месяцев назад
Michael Jordan won his 5th NBA Championship at Age 34, Kobe Bryant won his 5th NBA Championship at Age 31, and LeBron James at Age 39 only has FOUR (4) NBA Championships, still chasing his 5th ring. Smh. And then at Age 35, Michael Jordan won his 6th (SIXTH) NBA Championship, at Age 35, Kobe Bryant still had 5 NBA Championships, and at Age 35, LeBron James had 3 NBA World Championships and 1 Orlando Disney Mickey Tricky Bubble Ring. Smh. 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@cookiecrafthd5749
@cookiecrafthd5749 5 месяцев назад
Care to mention Jordan took time off ??? No telling how many rings he could of had or if he could of gotten it sooner
@swiiper_the_fox
@swiiper_the_fox 5 месяцев назад
And Bill Russell got 11 rings fighting for civil rights
@DCFG92
@DCFG92 5 месяцев назад
@@cookiecrafthd5749or just 3
@ZulunationFamily
@ZulunationFamily 5 месяцев назад
@@swiiper_the_foxdeep
@rickyorton6634
@rickyorton6634 5 месяцев назад
@@swiiper_the_fox​​⁠ But Bill Russell won his 11 rings averaging only 15.1 ppg for his entire career….Michael Jordan won his 6 rings averaging 30.1 ppg for his entire career…..2X - Michael Jordan averaged 2 times the points that Bill Russell averaged. Michael Jordan is easily the GOAT of NBA Basketball. Also who averaged 30 points and 28 rebounds on Michael Jordan every time that they played Michael Jordan? I’ll wait. Oh, okay. Well, the late great Wilt Chamberlain averaged 30 points and 28 rebounds in his career matchups with the late great Bill Russell. Again, Michael Jordan is easily the GOAT of NBA Basketball.
@SDBROOKS08
@SDBROOKS08 5 месяцев назад
lmao he said we cant ingore the fact the first three came with Shaq in his prime. The last 4 for lebron came with d wade bosh kyrie kevin love, ray allen saving him and kyrie saving him plus Anthony Davis during the pandemic run with no travel while they complained about bein locked in Disney World lmao
@jedimindtricks5713
@jedimindtricks5713 5 месяцев назад
If Jordans the best, and Kobe copied his game to a tee and as a matter of fact added to it, PLUS did it in a tougher defensive era, WHILE having to guard other monsters, and c’mon he’s got a great resume.. what does that make Kobe? 🐐
@327Jhigh
@327Jhigh 5 месяцев назад
Stephen A. forgets sometimes that A.I. actually PLAYED against these guys?!???
@GS-mh6ub
@GS-mh6ub 5 месяцев назад
Here we go with the mainstream media trying to undermine Kobe's greatness & legacy. With all due respect to Steven A Smith, I'm going to go with what Allen Iverson said. And if Steven A thinks Lefraud is the number 2 greatest player of all time he's bumped his head because lefraud isn't better than Kobe!💯
@yonasgebreegziabher6509
@yonasgebreegziabher6509 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is the goat 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 for my generation.
@chamberzonebeats
@chamberzonebeats 5 месяцев назад
1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Bird 6. Hakeem 7. Russel 8. Big O 9. Duncan 10. Shaq/ Steph
@youngcnyce
@youngcnyce 5 месяцев назад
Salute to Iverson,. I also have Jordan and Kobe over LeBron. The Kobe disrespect has to stop. Stephen A. dont try to diminish Kobe because he was with Shaq when Lebron formed a superteam in Miami
@yungmemphis852
@yungmemphis852 5 месяцев назад
Gotta agree with A.I. Kobe #2
@alldagrams9933
@alldagrams9933 5 месяцев назад
Stephen A Smith should be ashamed of himself Kobe is the only player in history to face 4 50+ win teams in one postseason without a Top 75 teammate and only 4 teams has faced such competition being the 94 Rockets, 01 Lakers, 08 Lakers and 2010 Lakers the Mamba is responsible for 3/4 of them. Kobe has a 25-10 record against 50 win teams in the playoffs which happens to be the most in league history from 2008-2010, Kobe Bryant Beat As Many 50-Win Teams In The West As Magic Johnson Did In His Entire Career.
@alldagrams9933
@alldagrams9933 5 месяцев назад
From 2001 to 2010 Kobe Bryant arguably held the title of the best player in the league. Yeah guys had great years also during this period but Kobe showcased unbelievable scoring ability, defensive prowess, and leadership. Kobe Bryant possessed the most refined and versatile skill set in the history of the game. His footwork, mid-range game, and basketball IQ were unparalleled. LeBron James didn’t truly emerge as the NBA’s best player until around 2011/2012 this period of sustained dominance sets Kobe apart. Let alone the era of the 2000s had one of if not the slowest pace of play, team ppg, iso scoring ect, Kobe Led the 2000s in ppg also was all nba defensive 1st team in those years not only leading the offense but also leading the defense taking on the other teams best player.
@alldagrams9933
@alldagrams9933 5 месяцев назад
LEBRON HAD D WADE , KYRIE AND AD All IN THEIR PRIMES DONT GIVE ME THAT SHAQ BS And not to mention all the ring chasing Shaq did when he left like teaming up with Wade and LeBron people forget that and he went to Phoenix and Boston
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 5 месяцев назад
​@alldagrams9933 You comparing them to Shaq?
@alldagrams9933
@alldagrams9933 5 месяцев назад
@@dparks2856 I'm comparing the fact that LeBron had multiple players in their primes but everyone wants to shame Kobe for playing with a prime Shaq
@JuwanTaylor-jz5zr
@JuwanTaylor-jz5zr 5 месяцев назад
​@@dparks2856wade comparable to shaq plus wade carried Shaq in 06 finals
@brickmoney4152
@brickmoney4152 5 месяцев назад
I don’t understand why Kobe gets discredited for winning championships early in his career. It took him 4 years to get a ring. You could argue he was the best in the world by ‘03 season. Stats wise Lebron wins but ball in 2010s turned into something else after 2013 , late 90s and 2000s has some great ballers and was a very defensive era. You could argue Kobe top 5 , top 10. Top 3 is hard because of stats because if it’s about winning Kobe has a better playoff and finals record.
@jamespeery3614
@jamespeery3614 5 месяцев назад
Not discredited, Shaq was the best player on the team though and was Finals mvp 3 times.
@brickmoney4152
@brickmoney4152 5 месяцев назад
@@jamespeery3614 Shaq and Kobe is a little different than Jordan and Pippen. Shaq and Kobe were both 1A. Now I’ll give you ‘2000 Shaq was unstoppable, but ‘01 and ‘02 they were looking eachother in the eye. Kobe could’ve said I’m the best in the NBA those years, but in ‘03 season when they lost in Finals he really has a case for being #1. My thing is that was how their team was constructed, no one ever says how great a teammate he was in those finals runs. They literally don’t win anything without him turning into a superstar ‘00. He was the playmaker in the playoffs and had to guard the best guard as well. Not only that, Shaq was the only other superstar of those teams. Lebron went to Miami and played with Dwayne Wade , and Bosh. Then the next year they added Ray Allen as a sniper. That Big 3 were all in their primes. But no one is discrediting Lebron for his first two chips. No one discredits Magic for winning his first season in NBA. Larry Bird won in his 2nd year and we don’t discredit him. In order for them to win titles he had to get better. But analysts on tv and some fans always try to take away his first 3 rings like he wasn’t dropping buckets on people and dunkin everywhere. Kobe and Shaq was like Magic and Kareem .
@Lkb2411
@Lkb2411 5 месяцев назад
@@jamespeery3614Shaq was the most dominant, not the better player. Finals MVP because he had no competition in the East.. aging Mutombo? Smits I think? Foh
@viciroyal7364
@viciroyal7364 5 месяцев назад
How dare he say if Lebron plays literally no defense no defense the Kobe Disrespect is trash
@TrebleFM
@TrebleFM 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is the best. He had to play through the old school rules and new soft rules. Kobe brought the game back on his last game. It was memorable.
@dotsgameroom
@dotsgameroom 4 месяца назад
Thank god he only speaks for him self and nobody else
@bradleyguthrie8058
@bradleyguthrie8058 5 месяцев назад
I swear this man live live off of hypotheticals if I I was a millionaire. Doesn't guarantee I could balance a checkbook
@doejohn215
@doejohn215 5 месяцев назад
Kobe is ahead of Lebron in my book.
@johnjovanovichwick4194
@johnjovanovichwick4194 5 месяцев назад
And u don’t have an argument 😂
@onemoremic
@onemoremic 5 месяцев назад
In the majority of ppls books
@JuwanTaylor-jz5zr
@JuwanTaylor-jz5zr 5 месяцев назад
​@@johnjovanovichwick4194kobe most definitely better than LeBron 💯
@thecall0ut
@thecall0ut 5 месяцев назад
Kobe got his rings with PRIME SHAQ. Well GUESS WHAT? Lebron got his ring with PRIME WADE, PRIME BOSH, PRIME AD, AND PRIME KYRIE! Shaq never considered Kobe as his 'ROBIN', and Kobe was the closer of the team. On the other hand, Lebron has DWade and Kyrie closing games for him. You're delusional to think that Lebron is clutch, when he can't even make his Freethrows under pressure or not.
@paulmahsahn1766
@paulmahsahn1766 5 месяцев назад
Kobe was one of the best 2 way players all time.
@michaelhorton6045
@michaelhorton6045 5 месяцев назад
I would d pay a million dollars to debate with this man about this topic
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 5 месяцев назад
Jordan was the best player ever most had ever seen and Kobe mimicked all his moves🤙🏿skill wise Kobe is the 2nd best ever. The players who played against Kobe mj lebron all rank Kobe ahead of lebron way before Kobe died the lebron being even top 5 was all media manipulation 💯
@darenpaulpanganiban8743
@darenpaulpanganiban8743 5 месяцев назад
Plus, LBJ was at the weaker eastern conference and needed a super team to reach the NBA FINALS. Look at him now at the western conference, he’s struggling despite having AD with him. And even if LBJ reached the finals alot of times, he doesn’t have a winning record to show.
@BarryJohnson
@BarryJohnson 5 месяцев назад
Stephen, this is meant with zero disrespect but I am going to listen to someone that actually battled Mike and Kobe at a level higher than most ever could. I trust the Answer.
@gabodee
@gabodee 5 месяцев назад
So we're not gonna talk about the competition that Kobe had to go through to get to those finals, are we not gonna talk about how Kobe was waiting for Lebron in the finals and Lebron couldn't even get that done, so we never got to see Lebron VS Kobe. I thought it was all about winning. I'm seeing that it's more about stats now
@brandoncooper439
@brandoncooper439 5 месяцев назад
Lebron has 4 mvps to Kobe’s 1 Lebron has 4 finals mvps to Kobe’s 2 Go and get a calculator add it up
@yoninja9164
@yoninja9164 5 месяцев назад
Exactly that's the argument I make all the time LeBron could barely beat the older San Antonio Spurs when Kobe was facing them when they were all in their prime. Not to mention those Sacramento teams, Blazers, Nuggets, Houston, Jazz. And had Pacers, Iverson and Sixers, Celtics, Prime Dwight Howard in the finals
@aeriskabkr1110
@aeriskabkr1110 5 месяцев назад
@@brandoncooper439 lebron got two bronzes kobe had 0, lebron had 3 teams to win 4, kobe had 1 team and won 5, i don't think a calculator can solve this 😂🤷
@brandoncooper439
@brandoncooper439 5 месяцев назад
@@yoninja9164 that’s not measuring them 1 v1 thats just the competition of the teams they faced which only a small part of it what about the 4 mvps that’s across the whole nba that’s all competition. What about the 4 finals mvps on the biggest stage there is to Kobe’s 2 , what about straight out of high school already good didn’t have to take 2 years to become a starter I mean come on this has to come into play when debating this it’s not that close tbh
@gabodee
@gabodee 5 месяцев назад
@@brandoncooper439 again like I said. I thought it was about winning? Kobe got more rings in less time. That's all the math I need. We all know regular season MVP is a story award now. That's why Joel won it last year when all the numbers point to Jokic as the MVP. The media neck nukes Bron every chance they get and not alot of people in the media liked Kobe that's why Steve Nash won it that one year. So MVP isn't what it used to mean. Don't get me started on the finals MVP. Lebron got the "in game tournament" MVP when AD clearly had the better numbers thr whole tourny and that is in a nut shell how Brons teams work. They win it cause of him, they lose its the others fault so stop we all know they giving the Finals MVP to Bron no matter what his numbers were/are and who is on his team. They were seriously thinking about giving him the MVP the year Kyrie and K Love got hurt when he had those 2 monster games and then lost against GS. Imagine giving Finals MVP to the losing team even the NBA was like yea okay that's a little to much glazing let me stop bouncing on it
@davidbandabaila719
@davidbandabaila719 5 месяцев назад
I’m tired of this disrespect to Kobe man he really is like that 🤦🏾‍♂️💯RIP 🐐
@dreway4161
@dreway4161 5 месяцев назад
A.I was nice as hell
@elijah1047
@elijah1047 5 месяцев назад
Gilbert’s take on this was perfect.
@AP32
@AP32 5 месяцев назад
Can't a man have his opinion without the paid media coming out to undermine? We are allowed to agree to disagree. People lose their minds if you dare say Kobe is better Lebron. The mainstream media fail to realize there are people that don't worship Lebron's every move. They've moved the goal post so many times to force him down our throats when it used to be about winning. He's a great player but he's nowhere near being the GOAT.
@boluoladini3076
@boluoladini3076 5 месяцев назад
You noticed it too!! They only started pushing advanced stats around 2009 or so when Lebron was the "King" without any rings. So that's when all the "efficiency" started getting glorified to now where idiots put efficiency above actual winning SMFH
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