MICHAEL JORDAN THE GOAT 🐐 Stephen A.'s TOP 5 reasons why MJ still reigns | First Take 

They were actually killing people for Jordans back in the 90's.

Kobe continued it for his story and the LeBron for his that's how I treat it there's always one who has a story dominates the game and passes the torch on for their story

Kobe is the GOAT

The media start it over and over again, cause it is easy. It starts useless debates, people arguing about "what if", srarting to hate each other for no reason other than nonsense GOAT arguments and the best part, they all got distracted from their miserable life, insane politics, collapsing economy, increasing crime, deeply split society and an ever growing international tension which could potential kill us all....

The man retired over 20yrs ago. But it still takes a debate to argue that a current player is greater.. than him and he still comes out on top.. the debate in itself is of no use the answer is in the fact that current players have not been able to make us forget his greatness

@elijahbatchelor9125 We also don’t talk about the six times That Jordan didn’t make it through the playoffs and the 4 times he got bounced out in the first round to crackheads.

Bounced out by one of the greatest celtics teams ever and the bad boy pistons😮‍💨

@@kite36 we also don't talk about Jordan faking retirement so he could duck the heat of his gambling schemes that were about to take him down but yeah it's wild how making it to the Finals and losing is somehow worse in peoples minds than getting beat in the 2nd rd...... give MJ in his prime a supporting cast of Tristan Thompson and Matthew Dellavedova and lets see what happens lol

@@kite36 That was early in his career before he was great. Why not talk about all of the times Lebron got bounced out and didn't make the Finals. First round exits. Sweeps. Why do yall Bronnies not count the many times Lebron didn't make it to the Nba Finals?

@@kite36 3 peat, retires, comes back a year and a half later, 3 peat again. Has Lebalco ever 3 peated with all them super teams he had?? NOPE!

Jordan came back for the Wizard years

@@RandomUser11369 We don’t count those 2 Wizard years

CORRECT! 👍👍👍

That’s a version of Walter Payton’s quote: “when you’re good, you’ll tell everybody. When you’re great, everybody will tell you.”

Team stats

@@lukeskywalkermod3686 yeah not 4-6

Although not a finals but 8 - 0 for college ballers vs NBA superstars in warm up games for 1984 Olympics

@@Kenjardo yep thats a fact that lecult wont admit

LeFlop and Shannon should read this.

You a clown 🤡

Doug collins

He had gotten 2 coaches fired.

no but he quit when he couldnt select the one he wanted. Imagine lebron retiring 3 years ago because he couldnt get Ty lue lmao

He never let any of his teammates fool around with his mama. Should be number 1 on the list.

I think also hasn't lost 3 consecutive games in this career, I think since 1980 something.

Spot on Bro!☝️💗😀

The one of winning DPOY and title in the same year is false. Only year he got the DPOY was in 1988. He won his first title in 1991. Correct your information.

Two other underrated stats. Only three players in NBA history ever had 100 blocks 200 steals, Olajuwon, Pippen who did it once. MJ did it twice while also leading the league in scoring. So UNLIKE LJ he was great on both ends of the floor. Stat two. MJ lead the league in steals and scoring for two consecutive seasons. Lebron has never lead the league in any defensive category. In either of those two back to back seasons MJ averaged more points and steals than LJ averaged in his best season.

he had to get the greatest 3 point % shooter ever, best rebounder ever, with the best coach ever and the best European player ever and a top 50 player he did that during the expansion era he better win it wasn't hard to win in that weak era even the rockets won back to back and lakers had a 3 peat all in his watered down era why you think we don't see 3 peats in the nba now

Gold in each Olympics. Lebron has a bronze in the Olympics.

Not undersized at all

@@nbagoats4819check out how many mba players each of their teams faced back then vs now. Also lebron Not much played the bronze year

a 6'6" shooting guard isn't undersized

Bro is doing tricks on it

I'm so tired of the... " The pistons were old" lie. That year the starting 5 was as follows. Isaiah age 29-30 All-star Dumars age 27-28 All-star- All Defense- All NBA Rodman age 29-30 DPOY - All Defense Mark Aguirre age 31 John Salley age 26 They were young, 2x NBA champions and Jordan came in and defeated one the best teams in the league that year and broke their Dynasty up.

Excellent!

@@americanhooligansthank you. This is exactly it.

Oh, absolutely. The Pistons suddenly got 'old' one year after winning their second NBA title in a row. Magically. Out of nowhere. Most amazing, intelligent and logical argument I have ever heard. Bravo. First class.

With the Accomplishments.

So... Robert Horry

gtfoh wit Horry he avg 7ppg in his career his teammates did almost all the work ​@@guy4835

Horry avg 7ppg in his career & was never the top guy on his teams & his teammates did all the work ​@@guy4835

@@guy4835 What else do Horry have besides 7-0? Come on talk about it?

very well said

i remember that day ...i will take my talent in south beach....n i will loose evry championship not 1 not 2 not 3...4,5,6,7 n the rest is history 😂😂😂😂

So... The debate rages on because of what reason. You can't proclaim you are the best , period. Mike never did that. LeFlop did. How many times did Mike sit out, unless he was hurt. When he dropped 63 against Boston, he was coming off his broken foot. He went against doctors orders and Jerry Krause and played anyway. GOATS do that because the love the game and want to compete. LeBron, sat out how many games during the seasons... One more note that no one says. LeBron has played in over 290 or more playoff games, and has failed to win 6. ( Truth be told, the bubble should not have been counted ), so he has 3... Mike played in 174 playoff games and has 6 titles. Never lost when he was on the biggest stage. LeBron has lost how many finals ? Awards aside, Mike leads on that as well in less seasons ! Truth is and Mike has said it best. Each era has its GOAT'S... However, Mike's game and his teammates around him were probably the best all around team that had the killer instinct that has ever played. ( Now, having said that... Boston and Lakers were badass ! Never doubt that )... During the time when you could get beat up for coming down the lane, well.... Bron has never faced that.

Jordan never flopped. Thats it!

And if anything Kobe Bryant should be in the conversation with Jordan more than LeBron James

PERIOD!!!

@@bobbenbrown123 This. The absolute disrespect Kobe gets is unreal. The guys skill set was off the charts. Makes Lebron look like Will Perdue.

For his time

@@padarousouYou heard the man… EVER!!

He wasnt even the best defender on his team lmao

​@@NdocRrokuyes tf he was clown 😂tf LeBron was never the best defender on none of his multiple teams 😂

Jordan leads in points, averaging 30.1 to 27.1, but James beats Jordan in rebounds, 7.5 to 6.2; assists, 7.4 to 5.3; field goal percentages, 50.5 to 49.7; and 3-point percentages, 34.7 to 32.7.

jordan probably made pippen the player he became....... not to mention without jordan, pippen did nt accomplish jack

Even Jordan needed a team around him. That was the difference in the first stage of Jordan's career and then when he finally got over the Pistons hump and got his first chip. He had a team finally built around him and got a coach that didn't rely on him to do everything in the games. The problem is people like to make the argument that Pippen made Jordan. The fact is you put Pippen on any other team in the NBA at that time. He doesn't become anywhere close to the player he became with out Jordan. Jordan took all those guys who had talent like Pippen and Grant and molded them into top tier NBA players with the help of Phil of course and his coaching strategy with the triangle. On the other side. Who did Lebron make better? He didn't. He joined players that were already top tier talent to win championships, and even that in many years wasn't enough as the Spurs whipped him until they got too old. Lebron doesn't have the leadership that Jordan had, and he certainly doesn't have that assassins mentality that Jordan had. The only player that can even come close to what Jordan was is Kobe Bryant. Who himself admitted...he doesn't get that with out Jordan as his mentor. Nothing I have just said is debatable. It's facts. 100% true, and if people don't get it. It's because they just don't understand or are too busy blinding themselves with prisoner of the moment emotions. Lebron is the current thing. Still fresh in everyone's mind. Jordan has been gone for a long time now. Soon Lebron will be gone, and we'll have another guy that people will swear is the GOAT. It's just the way it is, but it doesn't make it true. Jordan. GOAT. End of story.

Pippen went to the ECF the very next season after jordan left...

@@Patrick-sb7ko did he win?

@@Patrick-sb7ko Yea, and do you think he does that with out Jordan molding him into the player he was? Your lying to yourself if you think he does. Pippen would of never been half the player he was with out Jordan and Phil Jackson, and that is just facts.

try to sleep was more accurate. They FEAR when they see bulls on the calendar.

And got his pops killed for not throwing game and gambling and he is terrible person alcohol and coke head 😂 he didn't take off nba forced him to they knew what went down with pops

@@atonscottYou’re hateful and crazy go get your mental checked 😂

​@@atonscott What may or may not have happened with his father has nothing to do with his accomplishments on the court.

@@atonscottcan you type or are you having a seizure? Oh you’re dumb.

​@atonscott what a terrible analogy to bring his dad into his accomplishments in bball. lmao what a f*kin l0zer you are bro

Only like three teams have ever 3peated bulls did it twice with mj probably 8 in a row if he didn't go to baseball

MJ was basically the 2017-18 golden state warriors . every year everybody knew Chicago was gonna win it

It's a big deal and people really don't value it like they should. He did it twice. Just look at Golden State. They know exactly how hard it is. The pressure. The fatigue. The burn out. It takes alot to make that happen. The fact MJ took 2 years off and came back to 3 peat AGAIN just adds to the story. He wasn't playing basketball. He was rusty af. Still came back and dominated 3 years in a row. It really is incredible and people don't realize how much effort it takes to be that type of champion. MJ wanted it.

@@ikiwheese Jordan had all the best defenders on his team every time he won but all the greats was hurt so of course he should have 3peated but Bird still is his DADDY who he never could beat in a playoff game 😂😂😂

@@gloryroad7452”all the best defenders”. Name all of them.

They both are little boys chasing Bill Russell they chase five or six championships did Bill Russell has 11 rings on his hand 8 in a row even Jordan himself said he would rather have 11 rings than all the accolades he said Bill Russell is the goat No doubt that don't mean s***championships mean everything

​@vonmillerexpress5852 Russel won when there were only 11 teams. In addition, he did not win by himself. Of course jordan did not win the 6 champs on his own but has other thinks like everything mvp, 10 scoring titles, more competition, dpoy, etc. Dunk contest championship, clutch, etc. Russell did not have that 😂

@@vonmillerexpress5852 Bill isn't the goat either

@@vonmillerexpress5852you haven’t been following basketball that long. Russel won in an era that was comparable to the Jurassic period

​@@denisseceballos2258- they didn't really have trades then either. Drafting was really the only way to get a stronger team. Or if the other team sustained a injury.

I agree and Bron can't compare.

B4 PIPPEN JORDAN COULDNT EVEN WIN A PLAYOFF SERIES LOL

Keep on crying 😂 😂 😂 ​@@mountainrunner829

Defensive player of the Year*

If Mjordan did not retired from 1994 to 1995 it is possible that the bulls will be a 7 rings champions without losses in nba finals.

In yall had a team

I feel your pain. I'm a jazz fan😭

100%

Much respect to NY family... Starks-Mason-Houston-Rose, MJ is the reason I don't own one of there jerseys!!

Correction. Everyone after Kobe (who sits at #2) is next

Lebron is top 10, not top 5.

LBJ top 10.5 may be

Stop it, LeBron is the second best player of all time! Of course better than Kareem Magic and Bird. Don’t talk basketball

Second best in complaining while getting more calls constantly and GOAT at firing coaches.

three peats against TRASH TEAMS

I think everybody says that now but not in a good way. La flop 😅

@@deewatt I was thinking the same. Everyone that saw LeChock playing... says "this guy is literally embarrassing”

Every time I see a LeBron clip he's "dramatically" falling to the floor. How has he scored any points sitting on the floor? (BTW I haven't watched pro basketball since the early 2000s).

Exactly 💯

But they were terribly injury prone. The Bulls didn't beat them at full power...

​@@TiagoGomez-hb9testop it when the pistons won in 89 magic didn't play the full series stop it

​@@TiagoGomez-hb9te LeBron didn't beat full team gsw either green got suspended

@@TiagoGomez-hb9tey’all need to quit. Using age as an excuse.Lebron was young when he lost to Dallas. What’s that excuse

@@TiagoGomez-hb9te You play an extremely aggressive and physical style you're going to pay the price.

He did tho

​@@Longlive24 On what? That he keeps lying about the AGE of the Pistons and that Magic also was old?

It's funny I've seen lebron beaten an aging spurs team back in 2013 and lost to an aging spurs team the following year in 2014 with a record margin lol they won't bring that up 😂

lol at the end he gives the list A-.. i think deep down he knows jordans resume is far superior

@@Mercurial. I heard him talk about everything but that 😂😂

Most people had the Lakers favored to win in 91. And the Pistons definitely weren’t old. They were the 2-time defending champions, many hadn’t even turned 30 yet, and they made it to the eastern conference finals. If they were so washed up how did they manage that? This is just the Jordan haters trying to rewrite history. If they were old in 91 then the Bulls, as a bunch of senior citizens, apparently, somehow managed a 3-peat from 96-98.

2 seconds on the clock, lebron passin the rock 😂

idk after the Nuggets domination, I might pass it to Jamal Murray

@@conanho8445 I was about to say the same :) Jimmy Highroller last video about Murray is great.

You can add Jokic to that list as well.

Curry beat LeBron in the Finals once before KD came to The Warriors, KD beat LeBron twice in The Finals after he joined The Warriors. Jokic sent LeBron home back to back Post seasons in LeBron's Era.

At the end of the day. Lebron’s longevity surpasses Jordan’s, as Lebron has done a phenomenal job at taking care of his body. But Jordan’s Goat status cannot be touched. There is a reason why Lebron is chasing the Ghost of Jordan, not the other way around.

dont cry @Cris-qh6zx

Truer words have never been spoken.

bill russell got 8-peat since this is tennis.

@@Commenting800 he wouldn’t beat MJ if they were in the same era.

he also got one fake retirement to duck the heat of his gambling schemes that were about to ruin his career

@@Commenting800 I love russell to death but don't compare bill rusell to mj.... rusell couldn't even average 20 ppg in those times, he's not in a class with the kobes, jordans and lebrons of the world

@@mattcarberry368 and Lebron just got swept 🤣🤣🤣

Also the conference Jordan had to go thru to get to the Finals was generally tougher than Lebron's conferences.

That was old back then. Lmao

you do realize when people say he had to go against the spurs and the warriors they say it not because he beat them no, they say it because the level of competition like the warriors had four HOFers and the spurs had if not four then three HOFers on their team compared to Lebron who when he went up against the warriors the only other player at the time who can be considered a HOFer is Kyrie and even when he was on the heat although he had wade and Bosh both Wade and Bosh were either hurt or were dealing with health issues and Lebron was the only healthy one out of the three so please lets be real when we talk about stuff like this cuz you just sayin nonsense

@@expertmlg959 logic doesnt work here. Cant you feel the ignorance radiating from the original comment?

FACTS!

Checkmate!

Bruh Jordan didn't advance past the first round without Scottie pippen... I love how yall just skip ahead to the NBA finals and make that into what Jordan's career was

“Way less help” really ?

Imagine Jordan joining the Celtics just to get a ring 😂😂😂😂 or Jordan joining the pistons and asking Malone to come join him

@@TheSlyfoxgame Losing in round until Pippen came >>> Not making the playoffs at all until Larry Hudges came Winning 6 rings within 2 3-peats >>> Making 8 straight finals 🐐Jordan 6 rings -Beat 🐐 PG Magic Johnson -Beat Pre injury 25 PPG Clyde Drextler -Beat 62-20 Suns & MVP Charles Barkley -Beat 64-18 Super Sonic’s & DPOY Payton -Beat 64-18 Jazz & MVP Karl Malone 2 years in a row Bron First team all pros beat in 8 straight finals : Derrick Rose Bron fans Always remember : -Winning the finals is better then making the finals -Losing in round 1 for the first 3 years is better then missing the playoffs the first 2 years

Chicago Bulls was a superteam.

​@johnwebb2442 how?

Quite a casual comment. The bulls were stacked especially the 2nd 3 peat. Jordan, pippen, rodman, Steve ker, Ron Harper, and Toni kukoc. They had the best record 72-10 in NBA history at the time until golden state beat it later I believe year 2016 when they lost to the Cleveland in the finals. The Jordans team was stacked. Lol they were suppose to win it all with that team. When your franchise build your team with great players you don't need to jump around to make it. No matter how good Jordan was he had a great supporting cast to win. Lebron never had a pippen or rodman until he went to Miami and he won 2. However 2011 was inexcusable. But don't pretend like Jordan had it so hard he carried that bulls team every year on his back 😂.

@@RTXSimplicity Thank you for saying that. Those are facts.

@@RTXSimplicity true, but for the exception of Rodman and Harper, this team was organically built from the ground up around Jordan. He never left the team that drafted him to join 2 superstars in hopes of winning not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5.......etc.

Just to play the counterargument: Fun fact: LeBron has taken about four times more 3pt attempts than Jordan did in his career, and James STILL has a significantly higher career 3pt % than Jordan. Another fun fact: Career playoff series wins: Pippen without Jordan - 3 Jordan without Pippen - ZERO. Michael Jordan never won a SINGLE PLAYOFF SERIES without Scotty Pippen as his running mate and Phil Jackson as his coach.

Jordan wasn’t a 3 point shooter. Jordan played 12 seasons with the bulls and played two seasons with the wizards to finish his career. Pippen went to play with the rockets and the blazers. The longest teammate bron ever played with is Zydrunas Ilgauskas. They played 8 seasons together and don’t have nothing to show for it.

@@larsonpark3819 Seriously dude? I was giving a fun fact that shows Jordan wasn't just a scorer. Jordan did shoot 3s they weren't a part of his game. And did you know he had a season averaging 37 a game with less than 1 shot attempt from 3? Also you bringing up Jordan's records before and with Scottie shows you are clueless about the truth. Their first playoff game together Pippen and Grant combined averaged around 20 points. Jordan averaged over 40. Jordan also averages 43 points vs the 86 Celtics. Jordan also won 6 finals MVPs. Tell me who needed who?

And groat bron zero with out this team mates all star lol...wake up lol and watch this....wade,Bosh,Allen,Davis,erving,love,,,,etc​@@larsonpark3819

@@larsonpark3819 just an idiotic statement. *NO PLAYER* has ever won *ANYTHING* without teammates in a team sport.

He indeed was, but he was also advertised to be the main protagonist as if it was an anime...

I respect lebron, but his complaining and flopping and jumping like a baby should stop

​@@nrsn9688i agree Lefraud need to be Mature.

Easy to explain why lebron not even a top 3, he chose shortcut to form superteams. Swap kd to lead wade, bosh, allen, irving, love i think kd would have gotten 3 chips too

@@gameyee8251 Wait, what? Durant has played for four teams, and all four of them were stacked with max-salary all-star talent, and he only won a chip when he joined a team that literally could've won that chip without him.

😅😂killed meh they great together no 🧢

Uh huh..cause Unk know what time it is. Lol

What did he say that in response to?

😂😂😂😂

​@@michaelsandle2152SAS point #1

😂😂😂😂

Funny to a Cornball

@@DonHo-wi7twu feel better now big guy ?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂😂😂😂

He allowed first round sweeps. MJ beat who? Gary payton sonis and lazy barkley Suns hahah

​@@Commenting800 Them boyz in their prime would eat in today's game...

​@@Commenting800compare their first two seasons and who actually had a impact on turning a franchise around early in their careers . LeBron couldn't even sniff the playoffs in his first two seasons . MJ also ended the showtime Lakers dynasty

@@Commenting800 LeBron james got sweep by the san antonio spurs and the golden state warriors

@@Rs-mq1ms welly there no way mj well get sweep in this generation

If you think about it LBJ only has 1 back to back title.

Lebron keeps him relevant cause he so great that all people can do is throw MJ in his face

Greatest teams ever

It's worth noting that after three consecutive years of going pre-season to Finals, Jordan quit the sport. Then did it again, and again quit the sport. It takes an unbelievable amount of fortitude to do what James did -- keep going at the SAME level (25pts per game for 20 consecutive years) and just keep dragging WHOEVER he played with deep in the playoffs. THAT's consistency.

@@larsonpark3819 lol you never played competetive sports if you ever think 3peats is that easy 🤣🤣🤣

Facts

THE GOOOOAT

It’s all subjective and a matter of opinion but I respect your opinion. It’s not an idiotic statement

Goat taking years off

​@samuelrigaud6595 who took years off? Speak on it..

Absolutely no one ever!

​@@Prodbykkeyslet these kids kno

Facts

MJ is just a slightly taller Jrue holiday

@@SilentMovements305 no lie I’m 15 But MJ is the GOAT 🐐

Preach on brother, preach on

And for comparison, in the 34th year of his life that old geezer Jordan _only_ won: Regular season MVP All-Star MVP Finals MVP Scoring title 1st Team All-NBA 1st Team All-Defense Finished 4th in the DPOY voting and played all 82 games...again

Thomas was 30-31 when he got swept by the Bulls. MJ had completed his first Three-Peat at 31.

Mj beat Majic after Magic was in his 9th nba finals and without Kareem, so he didn't beat da showtime lakers, he beat Clyde, that was probably his best match up, he beat Dan Marley and Lil Kevin Johnson, he beat lil Gary Payton and he beat Jeff Hornacek and Lil John Stockton compared to Bron beating KD, Russell, and Harden, Steph and Clay, Tim, Ginobli, Parker, and Leonard, unc saying Bron competition was a lil better in da finals, Bron actually beat a few legendary hof's teams when mj didn't, mj won and dominated da league during da 90's expansion Era, but his bias fans not go say that especially on t.v., we've all seen mj's match ups during all his finals runs and I gotta admit he really didn't have nothing but one decent match up and that was da 92 finals against Drexler and even that was suspect, meanwhile Bron was matched up against KD over and over again, Tim over and over again, Dirk, Leonard, Steph over and over again, and beat da best team ever da 73-9 warriors, yep Bron da G.O.A.T!!!

​@@orlandohenderson2185bro what are you talking about LBJ is a great player not the goat bro LBJ has a lot of flaws lost that kills his legacy , second of all which great ever said there where the goat my men no great it's others who testified of MJ greatness bro LBJ is not the 🐐 MJ is stop forcing sir LBJ he is great but he is not the GOAT

Lebron and the heat had no chemistry that year but they were still able to make it to the finals. Jason Terry had one good moment.

@@karimmiller5441Excuses he got Punked by Jason terry 🤣🤣🤣

new team still learning to play together, lack of chemistry

@@stevey297he dunked on Jason terry in front of his home fans. He died

@@adrama8982 I Guess that Dunk Equals Choking in the Finals Moron 😂😂

EXACTLY READ OMG HERE WE GO AGAIN Been a Couple of Years Since I SHUT FRAUD JORDAN FANS AZZ UP BUT HERE WE GO , LAKERS NATION HERE , I am a Magic /Kobe Fan Before Bron , And I Certainly AM NO MICHAEL FRAUD JORDAN FAN , FACT NO. 1 Magic Came Into The League In 1980 and Changed it to What it is Now He and Bird , Magic Won a Chip In His 1st Year , It Took AIR FRAUD 7 YEARS TO Even Get to The Finals To get The 1st. While The Lakers of The 80's With Kareem and Co , And The Sixers With Dr. J , And The Celtics With Bird and Co and The Pistons With Isaiah Played and That's The WHOLE DECADE AIR FRAUD WENT NOWHERE 000000000000 NOWHERE AND HE CAME INTO THE LEAGUE IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE 80'S .1984 HE COULD NOT BEAT THE TEAMS OF THE 80'S THOSE ARE THE ONLY 4 TEAMS THAT WON CHIPS IN THE 80'S 0000000000 FOR AIR FRAUD ,HE DID NOT BEAT THE LAKERS WITH KAREEM , WORTHY AND MAGIC. WHEN AIR FRAUD FINALLY WON IN THE 90'S OTHER THAN THE LAKERS HE BEAT HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS ALL THE TEAMS THAT COULD NOT GET A CHIP IN THE 80'S , HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS , ORLANDO LOL , HOUSTON TRIED 2 TIMES BEAT DOWN BY THE CELTICS IN THE 80'S , AND UTAH THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST THE LAKERS IN THE WEST IN THE 80'S , AIR FRAUD BEAT HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS . 7 YEARS TO GET A CHIP BY THAT TIME MAGIC HAD 5 ALREADY AND HE HAD GONE TO 8 FINALS AND WE WERE ROBBED IN 84 AND 86 BY THE REFS OR IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY . More FACTS , Most Points Bron ,Kareem Before Both Lakers , Most Points in a Game Wilt Then Kobe Both LAKERS , Most Championchips Bill Russell with 11 Rings , You Read That Right , Even Robert Hory Has 7 Rings , Most Assists Chris Paul YOU CANNOT BE THE GREATEST IF YOU ARE NOT THE GOAT IN ANY ONE CATAGORY ,Even His Moves Were Taken from Dr. J , OK AIR FRAUD FANS READ THESE FACTS AND THEN TRY AND CONVINCE ANYONE THAT AIR FRAUD IS THE GOAT , BUT MAKE IT MAKE SENSE , WHILE YOU TRY AND DEFEND A FANTASY . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . YOU WERE DOOPED INTO BUYING OVER PRICED NIKES LOL LOL LOL MAGIC'S THE GOAT , AND CERTAINLY NOT AIR FRAUD WHO COULD NOT BEAT ANY OF THE 80'S TEAMS

Can't forget about stats.

But its a team sport, not 1 v 1 like boxing or MMA. How can they beat their ''nemesis'' without the help from their team mates who also need to be ''star players'', Jordan couldn't beat his nemesis without the help from Pippen.

Top 5 reasons why Lebron is the GOAT: *honorable mention: Role Model* 5. Longevity 4. Competition 3. Hype and Pressure 2. Better all around player 1. Incompetent front offices

@@ThisAinThatMetro Jordan is better than Lebron. Jordan won more, in less time, with less help. Goat!

​​@@ThisAinThatMetro His role modeling was showing everyone flopping, ring chasing, and abusing free agency is ok 5. He's just old, big whoop. MJ was an all star at 38 and 39 lol and the best in his team, LeBron isn't even that 4. Jordan played much much better competition 3. Bron hyped himself up, congratulations? 😂 MJ let his game do the talking, he didn't need to be hyped up. 2. Not a better all around player, if you ever saw either of them play you'd know that. 1. Lebron was effectively the GM, he hires and fires his coaches, he recruits his superteams. It's on LeBron when it doesn't work

@@josiahgoshert5023 “less help” go look at how many top 15 draft picks the bulls had until they won their first title and if Jordan was that good why are that picking that high every year? Do your research thats why my #1 reason is incompetent front offices they hit on almost all of those picks.

@@ChaseRiver2 I’m not even reading that you already started your comment off with some opinion based nonsense

Its simple. He played against BETTER competition then jordan.

@@Hyperactiveathlete777lmfao,tell me you didn’t watch basketball when Jordan was playing without telling me you didn’t watch basketball

Forget the Finals. He trails Jordan in major individual accolades as well. Despite playing over 5 more seasons. A player is mostly responsible for individual accolades, not the team.

Most of the hall of famer in basketball played in the Jordan era. Jordan keep many ppl from a chip, lebron kept noone from a chip, everybody ate good and came back for seconds.. 😂

​@Hyperactiveathlete777 he didn't. He played against better defense. Mj had the league when u can actually play defense.

Nah Lebron did it once

With fancy airplanes while Jordan traveled with rekt buses.

*ONCE* .... in 21 seasons lebron played 82 games *ONCE*

LeBron only played all 82 games once bruh. 2015. That's it. 😂 😂

Yeah in the 90s when everyone was taking steroids

And always will be

The debate ended in 2011 with that pathetic final’s performance

@@nomarxistspls90i can get if you say he was just flatout not better than mj but one bad performance is what made it impossible to come back for is crazy 😂 i never get that argument if lebron wouldve won every finals after you still would it still be that one you were stuck on?? Or you just in totality it isnt close

@@98slime86 I said that more as a joke. MJ is the goat and it’s not close. It doesn’t help lebrons case those two finals chokes though

That's been over since the 2011 NBA finals when the mavericks won

I don’t know that

@@tbd3675Joe Vincent Micheal Jordan video. Get educated son

What has he won without Scottie P?

Jordan also kept improving and updating his game over the championship seasons. His fade-aways kept getting better during the second 3 rings. It’s hard to get this from highlight videos.

@@Mewfew22 I hear you pops……all I’m saying this goat don’t lead and none of the major statistical categories and was a janitor without pippen…..because for some reason he kept using a broom

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Facts 💯💯💯

OMG HERE WE GO AGAIN Been a Couple of Years Since I SHUT FRAUD JORDAN FANS AZZ UP BUT HERE WE GO , LAKERS NATION HERE , I am a Magic /Kobe Fan Before Bron , And I Certainly AM NO MICHAEL FRAUD JORDAN FAN , FACT NO. 1 Magic Came Into The League In 1980 and Changed it to What it is Now He and Bird , Magic Won a Chip In His 1st Year , It Took AIR FRAUD 7 YEARS TO Even Get to The Finals To get The 1st. While The Lakers of The 80's With Kareem and Co , And The Sixers With Dr. J , And The Celtics With Bird and Co and The Pistons With Isaiah Played and That's The WHOLE DECADE AIR FRAUD WENT NOWHERE 000000000000 NOWHERE AND HE CAME INTO THE LEAGUE IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE 80'S .1984 HE COULD NOT BEAT THE TEAMS OF THE 80'S THOSE ARE THE ONLY 4 TEAMS THAT WON CHIPS IN THE 80'S 0000000000 FOR AIR FRAUD ,HE DID NOT BEAT THE LAKERS WITH KAREEM , WORTHY AND MAGIC. WHEN AIR FRAUD FINALLY WON IN THE 90'S OTHER THAN THE LAKERS HE BEAT HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS ALL THE TEAMS THAT COULD NOT GET A CHIP IN THE 80'S , HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS , ORLANDO LOL , HOUSTON TRIED 2 TIMES BEAT DOWN BY THE CELTICS IN THE 80'S , AND UTAH THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST THE LAKERS IN THE WEST IN THE 80'S , AIR FRAUD BEAT HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS . 7 YEARS TO GET A CHIP BY THAT TIME MAGIC HAD 5 ALREADY AND HE HAD GONE TO 8 FINALS AND WE WERE ROBBED IN 84 AND 86 BY THE REFS OR IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY . More FACTS , Most Points Bron ,Kareem Before Both Lakers , Most Points in a Game Wilt Then Kobe Both LAKERS , Most Championchips Bill Russell with 11 Rings , You Read That Right , Even Robert Hory Has 7 Rings , Most Assists Chris Paul YOU CANNOT BE THE GREATEST IF YOU ARE NOT THE GOAT IN ANY ONE CATAGORY ,Even His Moves Were Taken from Dr. J , OK AIR FRAUD FANS READ THESE FACTS AND THEN TRY AND CONVINCE ANYONE THAT AIR FRAUD IS THE GOAT , BUT MAKE IT MAKE SENSE , WHILE YOU TRY AND DEFEND A FANTASY . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . YOU WERE DOOPED INTO BUYING OVER PRICED NIKES LOL LOL LOL MAGIC'S THE GOAT , AND CERTAINLY NOT AIR FRAUD WHO COULD NOT BEAT ANY OF THE 80'S TEAMS

@@randallhendricks7679 Reported for being asinine.

Lebron literally does everything better than Kobe including scoring. Lebron averages more points, has a higher FG percentage, a higher 3pt percentage, more assists, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, more MVPs, more Finals MVPs, more all star appearances, and more all-nba teams. There is ZERO argument for Kobe over Lebron.

Kobe isn’t better than lebron

@@LeGOAT.those are just longevity stats cause Lebron is chasing greatness

don't be foolish. lebron is better than kobe at almost every aspect. kobe only has 2 rings as the best player. lebron has better individual stats all-around than kobe. points per game, rebounds per game, assists per game, blocks per game, steals per game, better field goal percentage, better 3 point percentage. lebron is a better all-around player and a more valuable player than kobe. even eye test shows that lebron is better. I even feel like I'm being nice to kobe by putting him top 5, but lebron and mj is definitely better than kobe and it's not worth the discussion. kobe is a tier behind both mj and lebron.

@@Atribecalledsuccess Career points per game, field goal percentage, 3pt percentage, MVP, and finals MVP aren’t longevity stats.

Thanks ! And ain’t need 22 seasons to do

Don't forget he won an MVP, scoring title and that DPOY all in 1 season. Complete and utter domination that season.

@@Boston2Boca1988 Jordan 😮

Don't forget this important stat. People don't consider any great team as an all time great team unless they 3peat, Jordan and the Bulls did it twice. Bulls won 72-W and 10-L with an NBA Championship. GSW beat the all time win loss record but it killed their team because they loss in the NBA Finals because of injuries.

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Yes. He raised his average to 34 in the playoffs. MJ is the GOAT

100% Agree.👍

No doubt

No

Why comparing Lebron to Jordan is blastmous Lebron need 2 elite superstars to win championship on Heat Jordan going to score unguarded in playoffs mindset different Lebron want be 6ft8 250 Point guard Jordan want score 50😂

@@breonmitchell2443You mean the same way MJ needed 2 stars to win?

OMG HERE WE GO AGAIN Been a Couple of Years Since I SHUT FRAUD JORDAN FANS AZZ UP BUT HERE WE GO , LAKERS NATION HERE , I am a Magic /Kobe Fan Before Bron , And I Certainly AM NO MICHAEL FRAUD JORDAN FAN , FACT NO. 1 Magic Came Into The League In 1980 and Changed it to What it is Now He and Bird , Magic Won a Chip In His 1st Year , It Took AIR FRAUD 7 YEARS TO Even Get to The Finals To get The 1st. While The Lakers of The 80's With Kareem and Co , And The Sixers With Dr. J , And The Celtics With Bird and Co and The Pistons With Isaiah Played and That's The WHOLE DECADE AIR FRAUD WENT NOWHERE 000000000000 NOWHERE AND HE CAME INTO THE LEAGUE IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE 80'S .1984 HE COULD NOT BEAT THE TEAMS OF THE 80'S THOSE ARE THE ONLY 4 TEAMS THAT WON CHIPS IN THE 80'S 0000000000 FOR AIR FRAUD ,HE DID NOT BEAT THE LAKERS WITH KAREEM , WORTHY AND MAGIC. WHEN AIR FRAUD FINALLY WON IN THE 90'S OTHER THAN THE LAKERS HE BEAT HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS ALL THE TEAMS THAT COULD NOT GET A CHIP IN THE 80'S , HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS , ORLANDO LOL , HOUSTON TRIED 2 TIMES BEAT DOWN BY THE CELTICS IN THE 80'S , AND UTAH THEY COULD NEVER GET PAST THE LAKERS IN THE WEST IN THE 80'S , AIR FRAUD BEAT HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS . 7 YEARS TO GET A CHIP BY THAT TIME MAGIC HAD 5 ALREADY AND HE HAD GONE TO 8 FINALS AND WE WERE ROBBED IN 84 AND 86 BY THE REFS OR IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY . More FACTS , Most Points Bron ,Kareem Before Both Lakers , Most Points in a Game Wilt Then Kobe Both LAKERS , Most Championchips Bill Russell with 11 Rings , You Read That Right , Even Robert Hory Has 7 Rings , Most Assists Chris Paul YOU CANNOT BE THE GREATEST IF YOU ARE NOT THE GOAT IN ANY ONE CATAGORY ,Even His Moves Were Taken from Dr. J , OK AIR FRAUD FANS READ THESE FACTS AND THEN TRY AND CONVINCE ANYONE THAT AIR FRAUD IS THE GOAT , BUT MAKE IT MAKE SENSE , WHILE YOU TRY AND DEFEND A FANTASY . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . YOU WERE DOOPED INTO BUYING OVER PRICED NIKES LOL LOL LOL MAGIC'S THE GOAT , AND CERTAINLY NOT AIR FRAUD WHO COULD NOT BEAT ANY OF THE 80'S TEAMS

​@@randallhendricks7679so is lebron your goat? coz i say you can't be the goat if you choke in 4th quarter of an nba finals. lebron got outplayed by jj barea and jason terry losing to an old dirk. if you're gonna be talking about stats like all time leader in points, you should bring up lebron being the all time leader in turnovers also. beating highschool teams? malone and stockton, payton and kemp, barkley and the suns. he beat the pistons. don't give me excuses like they were old coz the teams lebron beat were older like the spurs and the mavs. what did lebron win in his early years? i forgot, he went to miami and still lost and got outplayed by an old kidd and dirk. make it make sense

@@marionepomuceno8083 Lebron is not my Goat But Jordan is not the Goat Either

​@randallhendricks7679 The GOAT is the player with the finest resume of achievements over there career yes ??? Thats Jordan, the Rings, MVP's, finals MVP's, scoring titles, DPOY, highest Box plus minus score, highest Player Efficiency Rating, Highest scoring average, highest finals scoring average, about 30 records still unbroken. Do your research my man, there are a million reasons why Jordan has been regarded the GOAT for 25 years already by the majority of the planet. Im waiting for your reply !!!!!

That dude's just copy and pasting this in comments looking for smokes. Lol

Out of context about D-Angelo russell feeling the pressure. Killer instinct and you retire twice lol

@@Commenting800 He retired because of his father, and then due to being pushed out by the Owner. Do not try and lie here…😂

So what if he retire that's to show u how great he is a 3 peat on the comeback

​@Commenting800 His dad died, you idiot.

Yall take anything that man says out of context. He was asked how to play perfect basketball, LeBron said "it's just basketball" meaning it ain't hard to figure out. Swear most of yall don't use your brain