Kyrie Irving or Allen Iverson: Who is the better player? | Stephen A’s World 

Kyrie won Cleveland a championship ...nuff said Edit: Do you agree with my take on Tyler Johnson let me know!

@@retrac6306 and saved lebrons career with that 3

ai not even better then harden

@@retrac6306 he had Lebron lol.If Dame or any other good Pg was thier instead of Kyrie.Clevland still wins lol.

So let me get this straight you will take a guy that has no championship rings over a guy who has a championship ring and hit the Clutch 3 with 1 minute left in a game 7 on the road. And I had Allen Iverson shoes and he was my favorite player because he changed the game and made me rocks braids. Y'all can listen to these people who trying to throw a narrative but one ring is better than no ring especially if you hit the game-winning shot on the road in the NBA Championship that's the biggest stage there is

Lol

The MVP award is solely based on politics even Steve Nash won an MVP Lol👁

@@dirtysnowball lol over kobe tht yr when he was averaging 35 points a game tht he got robbed lol just saying

@@dirtysnowball Steve nash deserved in 2005 you kid

@@kobebryant5576 nah you wild kobe should of won it tht year

yeah thats why A.I. is best

Kyrie didn’t even need to play the games, look at Nets

@@momoblue1691 you do have a point lmao

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Talk about practice again lol

And amma " MJ " Fan but you have to give Jack his Jacket ......

Yeah bc 1 highlight puts a player above another

Starks did.

Bulls won that game And AI was only know For his iconic Move to Do that to mj

*Grant Hill

Prove he made that quote

Good thing he wasnt 6'5 he'd be slower

They dont understand. AI took on the whole eastern conference by himself. AI is a scoring machine like Jordan and Kobe, his height was his only con about him. And they never sorrounded with superstar talent like these other dudes.

The game then was different. A lot tougher and more brutal. AI took a lot of nasty hits and got up and continued. Could Kyrie play in the late 90s earlier 2000s with teams like New York and Detroit? He has a hard time staying on the court in this soft a$$ league. If AI was to play in the league now at in his prime, not only would he have had more MVPs and scoring title than Kyrie, James Harden and KD would want to play with him because he had more... (wait for this sh!t) ...heart. And that's immeasurable on the court.

@@SlvrBckBlck Good point, I always thought of the hand checks and hard fouls and makes me appreciate what Keven Johnson and AI could do.

Kyrie Irving was made by that I mean he practiced dribbling drills and shooting drills all his life, his father made him into the player he is. AI was a normal guy like me and you, he played at the playground and had fun, he was just talented, he played every sport that's why he was great at football and won state championship titles in both sports. Think about if AI had basketball forced down his throat as a kid, he would of been Jesus with a basketball. AI had heart something you can't teach and that's what makes him so much better... No comparison, it must be a slow sports day to ask such a dumb question.

@@simonjohnson514 facts if a.i had what these kids have now bru he might of been better than jordan

Lol kurrie carry lebron to a 3 to 1 lead. And a game 7 3point lead shot

David chance ur right, thats y he is better.

@@Nodnahs4D not a great a defender but leading the league in steals don't qualify as defence lol

You can add this to your comment: You're seriously putting up a modern copy vs the King of Crossovers? In every single game or highlight, you can see Irving shoving his defender off. But the King dances his way through... He doesn't touch em, but makes em drop. So, I'll give you a moment to think about the rules that changed in the game and how would the King of Crossovers play on this era where nobody can touch the ball handler more than AI's era.. Kyrie couldnt carry a whole team alone like AI did. Kyrie is one of those superstars who needs other superstars to win rings. Nuff said.

An old experienced kobe on defence is a lot more dangerous than a fresh baby kobe defending imo, imagine all the tricks he has seen/learned/experienced by the time he had to play kyrie.

Hands down. Not even a thought

Kyrie better, more Efficient

@@kevinchavis2755 haha

if kyrie didn't play game 7 of Cleveland's win, they would have lost.

That's one season he's injury prone u can't build a team around kyrie the Celtics tried that already

@@brandongreen5468 Kyrie is better for all the reasons Stephen A said. The problems he mentioned are intangibles. Being more available doesn’t make you a better player

AI was good at getting steals in the passing lane but if you watch Kyrie play and he’s locked in he plays better individual on ball defense

Dude the impact iverson had on the world. Is no comparison. Nobody felt this way about kyrie. Kyrie name will fade

Nuff said!

Exactly

But is it the truth

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Unless the question is who wants to show up for practice

I’m weak lol

Legend comment!

FATE OF THE UNIVERSE ON HIS SHOULDERS

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😂 Max is always confused

AI is not averaging 50+ in this era you are stupid for even saying that. In this area AI would struggle to average 20 whilst Kyrie still easily carries over his current production to the old era

@@fornow753 Kyrie would be lucky to hit double figures in AIs era, champ. They played this thing called defence when AI played, and, Kyrie would've only ever gone into the paint the one time before he'd have found out that little boys don't venture where the big boys ply their craft.

thats what one of the main reason golden era players seperates to this cup cake era, everything is made to be easy now you just have to score score score no more defense back then everything is balance players outwit other players to get buckets and team effort is a must with good defense

Spot on!

truth

A 🐐

Also cultural icon. He brought corn rows back.

Preach. ICON

Luckily I have one

I still have 3 - AI retro sixers (with the half red half black), AI black 76ers away jersey and AI blue pistons #1.

Don't forget that's the last/only time we all paid $100+dollars for Reebok shoes😂😂

@@melvinsmith1176 facts

Definitely had 3 of them

Never did " RELY " on Refs.

@@sroland3533 I'm sure he still don't/won't even if he's no longer pro.

Kyrie gets the least amount of calls in today’s game😂

@@V1CALMIGH7Y When was the last time Kyrie even played? ( A bit of exaggerating).

@@onmywayto974 game 2 against bucks before giannis injured him

Period

Exactly Irving fans get triggered at the name Iverson at any turn. If only they knew....

Kyrie 1 rings AI 0 rings

@@RealmeC-oy4zt I think AI going to the finals with a mediocre team is more impressive than Kyrie riding on Lebron’s back.

@@RealmeC-oy4zt And ai has a mvp

Who’s better currently? Tom Brady or Mahomes? Paul Pierce: that’s easy, that’s me

Bruh 🤣🤣

Who's better Messi or CR7? Paul Pierce: that's easy, that's me

Lol

Of course no question😂

And Kyrie doesn’t every time he plays?

How?

Extremely disrespectful

You act like kylie just trash or some , it’s a legitimate question

@@Litcentral09 maybe because Kyrie is obviously not better

@@patrickmatthews8191 kyrie has jewelry and im riding with ai but to dismiss kyrie is disrespectful!!

@Magic Dollas man AI, Tracy McGrady, MJ, would have made a mockery out of today's game. AI would have dunk on alot more people in today's game.

Facts

@Magic Dollas you also didn't have a bunch of one and dones like now. Back in the day there was maybe 2 that came out every so often it has affected the game IMO

His heart was 10ft tall

@@aggiepride982 don’t forget about Kobe in his prime if he was still around

I see what you did there

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And curry was better than both of them overall. “Is” better

@@kanyewestbank9677 and MJ was better than Curry, if we just naming random guards 🤦

@@dontuse10 I don’t think anyone is gonna argue that buddy

All blind? Kyrie easily

Actually that mvp was stolen from Kobe 😴 but I’ll let you have that :)

@@RicardoM.6 Nah

Going home with no ring!!

@@RicardoM.6 chris paul's was stolen by kobe. We'll let you have that

Steven Nash also did that

Shaq only question the mvps that nash got over him not that one AI won

Kyrie hasn't been healthy enough since leaving the cavs. The funny thing is I was wondering this today before seeing this video.

And who has a ring

@@thatniggaanas9586 lol

Yep. Kyrie can’t even carry a team to the playoffs if he’s the best player. This isn’t even a conversation....

They were a top 5 ranked defense in the east

And even won one of the games

that team had mutombo tf are you on?

facts. I look at that 2001 season and brons 2018 season in the same light. they carried fr

Kyrie was young

@@judeakudinobi5259 he was young on the Celtics?

@@judeakudinobi5259 So was Iverson.

@@brookelynn4149 2016?

Look at this era brother.

It's like nobody remembers

Kyrie actually won a finals

Thank you!!!🤦..... It's pretty simple to me Allen Iverson was the better player Kyrie Irving has the better skills

@@Roooa2312 Yea with Lebron

Facts

He’s not watered down watch ya mouth.

the kyrie disrespect is crazy put kyrie on that 76ers team instead of AI and they are a much better team

They got better player on the g league then he had on the sixer

@Jamesmace i agree and on top of all of that AI rarely ever practice. However Kyrie is to Ai to what Kobe is to Jordan.

U said it perfectly..bravo

Most perfect comment ever fam

Do you all think AI’s era of the NBA was a lot more physical?

And that's why he never won anything

That has nothing to do with who's a better player or not

He also played in an era of hand checking and monster men in the paint.

@@oogabooga72 kyrie won because of lebron not because of his style of play

@@oogabooga72 he carried Philly to the finals and lost to Kobe and Shaq stfu

15 years from now Kyrie will be old school

I know NG I know 🥺

Remember the NBA 2K cover with Ai on the cover

@@neffseda4181 there was like 4

@@jxden2x-447 the 1999 cover bro

All Day!!

He also didn’t have to go through any all star teams to get there...

@@jesses5465 Name another All Star AI played with during that Finals year

@@ryanboyd100 Mutombo, but Mutombo was mainly there for Defense. Without Mutombo Philly doesn't sniff the NBA Finals in 2001🤷‍♂️💯

He has the defensive player of the year in Mutumbo

Bingo

Good point. I don't think Kyrie Irving has ever been in the mvp conversation.

A.I was goin against Kobe back when they actually played defense

That doesn't count Lebron came back to Cleveland and stole his shine after turning the league into a 5 team league with his super team

Kyrie has never lead a team to the playoffs, not even in the weak eastern conference. AI was there every yr! I swear these talk shows need realistic topics because this is outta control

who he was as a middle ,high schooler and a collegiate player says alot about allan iverson!!! Lebron James wanted to be Allan Iverson!!! Bron use to worship Allan Iverson!!!

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Facts

Mic drop with that.

Or lift weights

That's Phunny But That Story was Taken Out of Context and Most Don't Know...Allen's Best Phriend Had Just Been Murdered and He Didn't Attend Practice and an Insensitive Reporter Asked an Inappropriate Question an A.I. Said "My Bestie was Just Killed and You Talking About PRACTICE?"...PRACTICE? ☻You Just Heard The TRUTH ABOUT PRACTICE

I Love A.I...... but he didn't pave the way that would be Tiny Archibald, Fat Lever but I def respect your comment

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mugsy bogues..?

No Brother🤔It's Isiah Thomas...The baddest 6ft under Guard Ever

And like OG said Tiny and Fat Lever(Walking Triple Double)Whew

AI never needed to dribble it over, The answer had heart, dude was banged up by Shaq and other players in The Man era of BB and still scored way more than Kyrie. AI is the player, The Player! Imagine him playing today, dude played 82 games in a season that time, more minutes per game, more possessions and win MVP and Top Scoring Player, so definately a better offensive player. Plus, he was alone on attacking front, almost always and made the final run, so in Cup Cake Era AI would've been The Answer!

A.I. was a killer, 5"11 feet tall 160 lbs pure scorer, a mini pocket Jordan. About his handle? Dont kill me pls HE is The crossover iverson, Starbury, Steve Franchise DRose i put Chef Curry in that list too. Kyrie got Handles true But These dudes are Ankle Breakers

@@21gunzsalute I feel bad if kyrie did to much getting to the cup away hit you with a good 2 moves and had you leaning just enough to get open same with Steph and drose , kyrie was playing 2k the way he uses his handles, AI was playing the sport itself yeah kyrie has a ring but cmon he had Lebron and a healthy Kevin love AI had mutumbo on the defense but no one was scoring like he was so that tells you enough yeah Ai never hit some super fancy never before seen crossovers and fake dribble or anything but when he had the ball he had a mission and that was to score and that’s what he did

yeah kyrie can create 20 new moves because of the rules no hand check wide spacing and no defense, im not trying to trash kyrie out I thinking his a great player his a sick ball handler but A.I plays in an era of pressure players and still out skilled and out smart them with his handles and ankle breakers scoring more pts getting the MVP and carrying a team w/o a superstar, he played with passion and heart never givesup and keep pushing ti'll the end of the game, probably the only player that pushed kobe to his limit

That dont mean he was better, kyries literally better then AI in everything

@@detroitdrama3 Kyrie is not even better than kemba and I'm not a Celtics fan

Explain to me how he was better? In what facet of the game?

@@detroitdrama3 fkn dumb

@@mikefraudrings4354 yeah the kemba that scored 14 and kyrie dropping 40 on celtics 🤣

The question wasn't who had more heart 🤣

not even Kobe??

@@JT-bs2lm no one

"WE TALKIN' BOUT PRACTICE!!???"

@@TheAlmightyClipse i knew somebody would quote this one.... 😂😂😂

He was arguably the most individually skilled player in nba history. And definitely the most underrated. People really don’t show him the love and respect he deserved.

@@Glock7eventeen Not to mention the refs hated Ai and purposely would not call a bunch of fouls against him which hurt his fg % there was even a fbi investigation about it and the ref stated that Iverson was the main target.. Then he got blackballed at the end of his career they did that to try to tarnish his legacy

😀.......

@@whartonmadkins4474 kiss nut

@@lll5944 😀.... Am I suppose to catch FEELING

Against lakers with kobe and shaq, may i add, and won the first first game, dude scores in the paint with shaq inside without 3sec rules

The only thing he carried is the sixers.

Carrying existed before that. They actually made carrying legal, not the opposite

Think about how many players were so good they changed the rules to stop them........ AI is one of the few along with Shaq, KD, Barkley, Bron, Harden, Mike and I know I’m missing someone but that is literally all-time company in that group.

@@SoShi910 fax

Allen iverson change the culture of basketball 🏀 2000-2002 nobody on this earth 🌍 could handle A I not only that Allen iverson all star mvp NBA mvp before labron came back Kyree only one 20 games a season ain’t on iverson level at all

Nah

He was awesome

Accurate 💯

Zeke said what’s up but ai is close

Jerry Sloan easily

Yep,AI took his team to the finals,kyrie gets carried there lol

Rec league, bruh those players won awards that season. DOP, 6 man...

Facts

I mean lebron did take the 2018 Cavaliers to finals without kyrie... So with or without kyrie , they were going to the finals anyways... Without AI , 76ers weren't making it to the finals

But in that era most of the league were rec league players. The level of talent today is vastly superior.

Facts!!

Burnout

Nah, Baby Steven A carries.

Can't argue with that. He has his own unique style.

If he didn’t shout so much he’d be great

Lol bruh. It's surreal. He was literally the symbol for new school now he's old school

He's been out of the league for over a decade lol 😂

@@reactking7093 a decade is 10 years my guy. Not 7 and a half.

Yeah he’s definitely not old school. The 90’s was still old school. I guess it just depends on to whom. For others it may be before the merger. It depends on rules and skill sets

@@Flinteastwood420 my fault I thought he retired in 2010

Huh I jus peeped dat difference. A game u still gettin paid for. A.I said he a die fa da game. Preach facts mane!

& Iverson was referring to the fact that his best friend was just killed & the all the media wanted to talk about was him missing practice & not why he missed practice. Not even near the same context.

Preach.

Kyrie is like we talking about the shape of the earth now

😅

influence, yes I agree but AI played 914 reg season games which isn't much considering KD and Russ are in their 900+ games

Which means that with time kyrie will pass AI

@@bjy1234 what does that mean? Also remember they actually played defense in AI day and they don't in today's game.

@@byrdiedaboss4472 wdym they don’t today 😐 or offense has jus gotten better over the years

Doesn’t make him better tho

and even Michael Jordan said if AI is 6"6 he will be the best player of all Time.

Yeah he was better than Kobe,if he had shaq he would've been a champion plus finals mvp.

@@romeonorelm.geonzon9177 What's funny is that Kobe said the same about Kyrie.

@@trollking4058 what did u just say kyrie is 6'6 he don't do contact finishes so there is no way he could ever be in day conversation with no defense this man is a passenger where ever he go all these people we talking are clutch all the time y themselves while kyrie get the option to pick and choose when to be clutch

@@jamaletaquanblake7972 Kyrie is 6'2 and he does do contact finishes. I said that Kobe said that the league should be happy he ain't 6'6''. Also, I have no idea why you think Kyrie picks and chooses when to be clutch. That makes no sense. It's just that, in clutch time, he asks for the ball, like every clutch player in history, and makes most of them. That's clutch. Also, Kyrie hasn't had very many chances to lead. He's had 3. He's only really been bad the second time. On the Nets, no one's the leader. They all take turns playing iso and having 40 point nights.

Yep a dpoy and all star the year prior and a great defensive team with 2-3 other ppg scorers are rotten bags of chips

@@V1CALMIGH7Y George lynch, eric snow, tyrone hill and list of trash goes on. Mutumbo was a shot blocker and THATS IT. AI had to do and did everything for that team. Kyrie played on a much more complete squad along side LBJ. AI had the bigger load. Im pretty sure you're not even old enough to remember Iverson on that team. I was 22 so I remember very well.

“rotten bag of chips” = COY, DPOY, and 6MOY?

I mean we talkin about practice. Not the game. But PRACTICE

@@brandonm809 and I still feel what he was trying to say...

Yeah reliable for one season only he overrated

@@blackmarlin3166 Stop it. Putting the words "Iverson" and "overrated" in the same sentence, suggested he's unreliable, shows how much you don't know about basketball. Iverson played 70-game seasons 8 times, Kyrie's only done that 3. Iverson only missed games because of injuries, period. Kyrie has been out for injuries, disputes with management and also ghosted the Nets after catching heat from the media. People knew that if he was cleared to play, Iverson would come to play no matter what. Kyrie was a toss-up until Harden came. So who's less reliable?

@@KenpoKid77 Being reliable by showing up in games and being reliable in being a good player all throughout are two different things. I like ai i got all his jersey but he's way too overrated in fact we only look at that one season everytime we want to praise him when he actually played 14 seasons. Skill-wise he doesn't have a lot of it yeah he can handle the ball well but he's a horrible scorer you can check his advance shooting stats the only thing he didn't shoot horribly in his career was the freethrow he's dreadful at close range, midrange, deep 2s and 3s he basically can't shoot at all, he's also an overrated defender all his steals came from gambling on the passing lane more importantly he doesn't like passing the ball. He can't score he only rely on shot attempts and he doesn't belong on the same planet in terms of talent with kyrie. This debate is disrespectful to kyrie.

kyrie would be lost in ai's era.

Except for “practice”

Kyrie never plays a full season he is always injury prone. Iverson played defense too. I’ll stay with AI on this one.

@@dee65cee53 kyrie Irving actually plays amazing defense..

Ouch...that hurt - Kyrie

Didn’t kobe say that?

Kobe said that.. not mj

AI SAID THAT KYRIE"S HANDLES WERE BETTER

@@yande-chawesimunyola6486 That doesn’t necessarily make him the better player. But you’re entitled to your own opinion. AI basically brought the Sixers to the Finals, battling the vaunted LA Lakers. No less than the great Kobe.

that was Kobe and it was 6"5.

I like that

I like how u did that

And the answer is Paul Pierce is god

Bars

A.I got a brave heart and never gives up!

AI's numbers would go up in todays league. FG %'s and 3pt %.. Ai's first step would destroy this league.. he used to step back back in the day but nowadays he probably wouldn't have to.

A

Bruh Kyrie is like AI, thats why this is a debate

@@quantumbender5840 That’s exactly what that turn of phrase means, that AI struggled cuz they’re a lot alike... BRUH.

I was there and AI is no where near Irving. Stop it. ai can't even shoot. It ends there. Kyrie hit a shot to win a ring. AI didn't wanna practice. Just stop it.

@@yallknow1272'no where near Irving??. That dust you're smoking got you clouded lmao

Could not have said it better

Exactly. Replays and tapes just don't do it justice.

PERIOD!

Take my like and leave pls

@@CripticK1ng you don’t get it do you

@@jamiesmith1261 iverson>kyrie iverson had no other superstars to help him, he single-handily carried the 76ers to the finals/ kyrie couldn't even lead the celtics

Nice

@@CripticK1ng No he's saying you missed the "ANSWER" in his comment

Yeah bc opinions about practice and the way earth is shaped is the make or break of choosing the better player 😂

Lies

@@haroldrandall1318 Kyrie did nothing while on the Celtics

@@midast2361 u sir don’t know basketball

@@koldheartedbam1064 can Kyrie take a sub par team to the finals the way Allen Iverson did?

W

What? He was not efficient at all. He didn’t re-define efficiency, he was a volume shooter (not a diss, that was his role), I doubt he gave two fucks about being efficient.

@@tronskee32 you read what the guy said but you didn't really comprehend it. He literally said "he's not making a high shooting percentage"

@@_gamepoint_ and he also said "he sort of re-defined efficiency." so he has completely contradicted his own statement. That other guy comprehended well

@@tronskee32 did u read?

@@Aemond839 he didn't contradict it. he said AI didn't need to be super efficient. Just score big because his teams usually won when he did.. which I think is true. Because the 76ers didn't care about efficiency. They were a top five defense for four or five years. Their goal was to make you play a terrible brand of basketball and bet on their guy being better at it then you. Which they routinely made the playoffs and a finals like that. Get it now?

How do you have heart when you aint practicing with the team? Yes were talking about practice.

kyrie hit a game winner in game 7 of the finals

@@01shan001 before Lebron went back to Cleveland Kyrie was the man what were his accomplishments??? Kyrie is a good player but he will never be in same level Ai was.. took a team to the Finals where the 2nd best scorer averaged 10ppg. Kyrie didn’t even make the playoffs before Bron came along and others super stars

@@tito.dre3265 facts of life

Kyrie can't play defense like iverson can't be a leader kyrie will always be da passenger seat driver to everyone on his team while AI will lead da team and we talking bout practice that man should be able to do what he want as long as he stayed loyal to date franchise carrying them on his back every year knowing he gone lose so please shut up bout kyrie cuz we all know if kyriee would have missed that shot lebron or Love would got da board and 1 of them would have made it while didn't have day luxury