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Kyrie Irving and the Brooklyn Nets have come to an impasse as both sides contemplate their futures. Irving played in just 29 games this season where he averaged 27.4 points per. In contrast, Kevin Durant played 55 games where he averaged 29 points per game. The Nets however find themselves on the brink of losing both athletes as Kyrie’s decision to pick up his player option looms. Emmanuel Acho, Ric Bucher, Joy Taylor and LeSean McCoy talk KD & Kyrie.
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@SpeakOnFS1 Год назад

Who’s to blame for Nets dysfunction?

@jordanhill6041 Год назад

@Nets Organization is to blame! Starts @ TOP

@kobilevy4877 Год назад

The nets and the NBA.

@barak-rocky-giles2081 Год назад

Honestly? Everyone. But Alfred is the most at fault.

@undercover1921 Год назад

KD!!! Hes nothing but a bus rider!

@GregoryFergusson Год назад

Kyrie 45 % KD 40% Management 15% - Kyrie sabotaged the project with his indifference to the process, KD refused to hold Kyrie accountable, and management allowed it to get out of hand. This episode of Kyrie/KD proves Chuck absolutely right in that KD was a bus rider ESPECIALLY considering KD also had a championship roster in OKC, let's not forget that. If Lebron went to GSW right now or at the beginning of last season, he would've been a bus rider while maybe being the best player on the team BECAUSE GSW didn't need you to compete and possibly win a championship. Russell Westbrook actually spoke about this and KD already when discussing him leaving OKC.

@alexandrosbeleris6957 Год назад

Broussard said it best,the Nets have a Batman with a Robin mentality(Durant)and a Robin with a Batman mentality(Irving)

@noahpoetik Год назад

So well said

@cylvaniaallen4498 Год назад

Facts!!! KD needs to work on his leadership skills. Can’t care about being cool with everybody.

@JayBrad_TLM Год назад

🎯💯

@123ROCKBOYX Год назад

Kyrie Irving is Jason Todd but not red hood just yet…next few years will be telling whether he does become him or not

@vikramkrishnan6414 Год назад

@@cylvaniaallen4498 He is 34. A bit late to develop leadership skills

@Derpfriar Год назад

Acho's unwavering love for Giannis is why I love him. Giannis is our BOY!!

@dkg6826 Год назад

Yeah coz 🇳🇬

@giovannicarter3076 Год назад

Word!!!

@coltonpeterson1452 Год назад

Acho is the same guy who said giannis couldn’t be the number one guy in the NBA because people can’t pronounce his last name

@giovannicarter3076 Год назад

@@coltonpeterson1452 he's still not the #1 guy 🤷🏿‍♂️

@coltonpeterson1452 Год назад

@@giovannicarter3076 he's in my top 3

@KellyAnn1997 Год назад

Acho really is an incredible speaker.

@sports2hedz542 Год назад

Agreed. But love how Joy just puts synthesizes everyone's points and ties it all together.

@Ace75271 Год назад

This group is really good, honestly it’s entertaining, Insightful and different perspectives all around. Good show 💪🏾

@just4random580 Год назад

Legit my new favorite show. Skip been so annoying lately i cant with undisputed

@stugotz231 Год назад

Ric has always been great and acho has been a breath of fresh air in the industry ! Congrats to all!

@JJ-zy3zv Год назад

Except for Joy Taylor lol. She’s unwatchable. I skip her sections

@TaiLePhan Год назад

They have terrible analysis

@str8harry Год назад

@@just4random580 Yeah he's went off the deep end. He has always hated, but now days it's just completely 100% blind hate towards everyone with absolutely no real argument to back anything up. Dude is past his age.

@Sheed85 Год назад

Rich Bucher sat UP for that Tom Brady information 😂

@StanleyMabonga Год назад

Joy called him Alfred😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@diegobromfield Год назад

Alfred came in clutch a bunch of times though.

@m6bimmer30 Год назад

funny but disrespectful!

@sonikspeed19 Год назад

@@m6bimmer30 yeah it's disrespectful to Alfred. My man was always reliable when Batman needed him, unlike Kyrie when his team needed him. Kyrie more like the police in that scenario. Sometimes they show up and shoot at the bad guy, and sometimes they don't.

@m6bimmer30 Год назад

@@sonikspeed19 ok Kyrie bashing is the new thing I see...people are so sensitive these days. Nba finals was kinda trash this year so I see why they jumping to next season ..lol

@martelljhixson Год назад

@@sonikspeed19 Kyrie is definitely Red Hood....an overpowered number 2 if he cant stay focused for any amount of time. Red Hood shot Steph Curry to win Batman a ring in Cleavland.

@danladiallen1936 Год назад

This was a great conversation. You all did a great job effectively communicating your thoughts.💯

@mr.keepit1006 Год назад

KD Never been that kind of dude he couldn’t put his foot down with Russ in OKC

@dperfect28 Год назад

And ran out of town cause the media called him Mr Unreliable

@SoundSoRich Год назад

How you know ? Seemed to be some fire when they're went up head to head.

@mr.keepit1006 Год назад

@@SoundSoRich can’t nobody outside the locker room truly know but one telling thing is he also left and never pushed the problem out in OKC he didn’t go to the Gm and say either Russ go or I go he just packed up and left and joined GS and after that short stop now that Kyrie making waves he still is yet to step up and say kyrie get right or get gone because he is sitting quietly and letting his friendship get in the way of business

@dperfect28 Год назад

@@SoundSoRich When they was teammates KD never confronted Russ like Shaq did Kobe

@barak-rocky-giles2081 Год назад

6:07 "Alfred!" That had me dying. 🤣

@TheUnitedDrills Год назад

Joy looks like a Hot Teacher Today! 🔥

@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly Год назад

"Kyrie Irving is a number 3 😁, he is Alfred Pennyworth" that was the best take from joy (ever) 👌

@lutilagoo167 Год назад

But Alfred is beloved and well respected lol

@mike12345807 Год назад

Bro, Joy is smoking. Kyrie is a 1 at worst #2

@moneyman4740 Год назад

@@mike12345807 he aint no 1 , he def a 2 , we seen him as a 1 and he folded

@BackAgain216 Год назад

Nets should have kept Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert, and Dinwiddie

@jeromerozier872 Год назад

They had the team there

@blazedup4208 Год назад

It's the nets fault for caving to kyrie when they kept him from playing they enabled him to have all this "power" again and thus be able to cause dysfunction for KD and his teammates

@213FlyGuyy Год назад

Definitely Kyrie fault but Kevin Durant made a bad move by following Kyrie to Brooklyn. Both our talented but neither one is a leader and both are weirdos and bozos.🤡

@jctslice Год назад

kyrie brought kd to Brooklyn and refused vaccination. definitely his fault for sure

@bigbizzle Год назад

Lol

@Zach648 Год назад

Can we have more of these 4 please, they all work together so well.

@supadavedmg4490 Год назад

Who knew joy was so disrespectful to kyrie smh Shawdi said he’s not even a #2 that’s just hate tbh

@MakuArein Год назад

Did you even listen to what Joy said? She explained it numerous times that Kyrie is a #3 because he is so unreliable and always absent. She's speaking facts, how is that hating? Lol

@wintersouljah8437 Год назад

Yall through that "hate" word around so loosely nowadays smh

@martelljhixson Год назад

@@MakuArein did you listen...she traced it back to Cleavland and there by completely invalidated her argument. Anyone who said Kyrie is not at least a Robin is an idiot or a hater by any measurement.

@montgomeryscottys8213 Год назад

@@martelljhixson he needs to be on the court to be a Robin. Batman fighting out their without help

@supadavedmg4490 Год назад

@@MakuArein that’s a good explanation to say that about a guy that was a number 2 and won a ring as a number 2? Injuries happen it’s the nba and somehow now it’s not acceptable to put your religious beliefs over your job. She’s speaking only half of the truth not facts so it’s hate

@logicalblackman8228 Год назад

I think this and the show with Broussard and Nick Wright, are the two best shows.

@jaywilliams4770 Год назад

It’s wild I didn’t know Kyrie was having his own practice undermining Steve nash wow

@giovannicarter3076 Год назад

Nash shouldn't of even got that job

@jsmith1214 Год назад

@@giovannicarter3076 and why is that?

@eking5715 Год назад

Those practices took place when he was allowed back and could only play road games. He needed help getting up to speed. He said it himself. He would ask some of the guys if they could help him get his rhythm.

@DM-rh4ev Год назад

@@jsmith1214 because there were more qualified coaches

@jsmith1214 Год назад

@@DM-rh4ev people didnt make problem when. Kidd was first hired or Fisher or Brad, or Kerr, or many many others.

@keiongarnett1825 Год назад

These 4 individuals are actually great together, everyone has a different perspective even though the main argument is the same

@snikab Год назад

Here’s a thought… When the team doesn’t have a strong voice of leadership, that’s when a coach is supposed to step up and guide their players into the positions to succeed. These “super teams” don’t have a strong coach bc the ego of the players. Edit: it took them 11:53 until joy brought up their identity and coaching < lack of coaching

@dillonhall824 Год назад

hey kyrie said that he and kd were gonna be coaches when they hired nash, so that's on them as well, but i do agree.

@tigacainta Год назад

NBA is a Superstar League.. Even Pop & PJax can't flex Power over Duncan nor Kobe.. Leadership comes from the PLayer themselves.. Superstar sells Stadium Tickets & Merchs.. What authority anyone can reign on your Moneymaker.. ???

@snikab Год назад

@@tigacainta Kobe and Tim never tried to undermine their coaches. Those superstars you mentioned plus many others were superstars who were also coachable players. They don’t need to be coached to be superstars, or to be great, but the great teams need coaches too for this very reason. They should provide the balance. I’m not trying to be argumentative. Just how I see it. And no coach can with without their players. It’s a balance.

@lutilagoo167 Год назад

@@snikab Yeah Steve Kerr understands that balance and credits players when they sacrifice. Like asking Curry and Iggy to come off the bench It's wild that Kenny Atkinson won a ring before they did lol

@shonevans2563 Год назад

When he said batman and Robin shooting villains that just had me wondering what episode was this . Must of only aired in Cali 😆

@SoundSoRich Год назад

How do they know what KD is or isn’t doing or saying ? 🤷🏿

@tadah21 Год назад

I love these 4 together even when I disagree they funny and give takes that are not extreme or clickbait just how normal people would think💯🤔😆

@MBoykin1982 Год назад

I really liked Joy's take. She's very intelligent and full of knowledge.... with that said, that simple all black outfit and white trim looks good on her! She is looking amazing!

@MBoykin1982 Год назад

@Slimeballllll yes but he was not Robin in Brooklyn and that was the point

@biggotti2744 Год назад

Her takes are always emotionally driven or she’s just riding a narrative that others created

@biggotti2744 Год назад

@@MBoykin1982 he was Batman until kd got healthy & he & harden was more like robin & nightwing, no clear number two

@MBoykin1982 Год назад

@Slimeballllll my dude you can't be Robin if you not there. You talking about one series. Not the season

@jtrails694 Год назад

I don't understand how she always gets away with the low cut top tho

@imfrombmf_7258 Год назад

Ayyyyooo she called that man Alfred 😆 🤣 😂

@pee_boogie7934 Год назад

KD- Kyrie situation kinda reminds me of Tom Brady and AB. For the longest time Brady wld tell Bucs to keep AB coz he needed him ( alledgedly). But i think everyone has a breaking point. Even KD has breaking point. I think he will finally and hope cut ties with Kyrie.

@travisbickle1689 Год назад

I understand where you’re coming from but I think you’re absolutely wrong Bill deBlasio caused this when he made those illegal mandates for people to get the shots in New York 🤷🏾‍♂️

@ObYoungKenobi Год назад

Batman instructs Robin. Always has. What batman was this dude watching?

@mylifeuntilnow Год назад

Acho nailed it! Can't be both absent and a distraction!

@MajinMarcus_ Год назад

Joy almost lost me saying Kyrie was a 3 lmao but she came with the quick recovery 💯

@koreybarney1409 Год назад

Love the flavor and it’s always a joy to hear joy talk sports with sense

@Takerdude001 Год назад

Kyrie as Alfred 😂

@tonytone3799 Год назад

I wish all these talking heads would come to the realization that talent does not equal leadership. Just cause your the most talented doesn't mean you should lead or want to. KD is actually the best robin in history. He himself stated when he went to GS he just wanted to hoop without the pressure of leading because it wasn't fun. Get KD an actual leader in the locker room that won't take the spotlight or care about it (like a billups or Manu) and you will see the nets compete for championships.

@Levi-wj6qo Год назад

Joy is goated for that Batman Robin and Alfred analogy 🙌

@JJ-zy3zv Год назад

Am I the only one who fast forwards when Joy talks

@williamthomas7268 Год назад

I think the Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvin situation with the Nets offers yet another cautionary tale for young people starting out in life, whatever field they get into. And that is: Don't chase friendship in business! In other words: it's probably almost always a bad idea to go into business with a close friend. Why? Because of the tendency to think that Friendship Conquers All! You will think: my friend will do right by me in this business of ours! Your friend will think: my friend won't do me dirty in this business of ours! The two of you are likely to have very different ideas about what that means. And when the business fails, the friendship could be irrevocably damaged because each friend feels Personally betrayed by the other; and they blame each; but you two were never on the same page about business to start with.

@KevX1127 Год назад

Joy looking absolutely fireeee 🔥🔥🔥🔥 and knows DC references my lord....

@Gdogw22 Год назад

Acho slid that last part in… lol 😂 curry got a team of do boys 😆

@howardhill3395 Год назад

KD has been enabler for Kyrie's behavior, so he does bear responsibility with Kyrie for the mess in Brooklyn.

@isaacjefferson8418 Год назад

I don't think KD is an alpha, he is one of the greatest players ever, but not an alpha. This is on Kyrie. But it is something they can get pass. Play another year, show up, when a Championship, then get your max deal.

@latinaforever4892 Год назад

Don’t say that ... mama Wanda will be mad at you !! 🤷🏻‍♀️ ask SAS 😳

@RayanMADAO Год назад

Kyrie is not an "alpha" he's a terrible leader. What alpha acts like kyrie does? Just cause kyrie does whatever he wants and acts selfishly doesn't mean he's alpha

@RayanMADAO Год назад

Kyrie needs someone like lebron to lead him. Durant doesn't need anyone like that he's a consistent killer and knows what he needs to do to be successful he just isn't a good leader

@robertwiggerton5858 Год назад

Didn’t Alfed raise Batman? His importance is misguided. Ijs

@blackurustrikes2328 Год назад

Rick might have won this debate had he asked one simple question: Who do you all believe IS the leader of the team, KD or Kyrie? Because I believe the HONEST answer to that question is Kyrie. And THAT would mean that KD (who should be the *definitive* leader of the Nets) has FAILED.

@spitzrealist86 Год назад

Great point 💯☝🏾

@JourdanChaney Год назад

The answer for this question is yes

@yeehee23 Год назад

Acho is the man!

@giovannicarter3076 Год назад

Best debate sports show out

@diasgad Год назад

Professor Joy Taylor, the class is in session. Kyrie Irving is Alfred 😁😆😂🤣

@Maja-hs5pd Год назад

Joy you are right Kyrie was a 3 on the cavs

@getusome6776 Год назад

great debate

@rayediamond7098 Год назад

They called that man Alfred😂

@dperfect28 Год назад

This was a GREAT segment

@dorranmoxey7259 Год назад

It's amazing how yall think they never had the conversation and try to work things out.

@sports2hedz542 Год назад

It was just Ric tho. But yeah that was a ridiculous take.

@brandonmoskos9149 Год назад

KD deserves no blame! Stop trashing him. Dude gives 100% every time he plays. Blames Nets management for not putting Kyrie in his place.

@17thNO Год назад

The league, cable network shows (like this one), advertisers and shoe companies decide who the "face of the league" is.

@alexthomas748 Год назад

Joy Taylor can be my teacher any day any time any place

@bryanchrisjoseph5526 Год назад

Slick Rick came in with the haymakers! 😆😆😆😆😆😆

@livingfailure7838 Год назад

Yo, Kyrie ain't no Alfred! Put some respect on Alfred man.

@kennyfoster2879 Год назад

The Keep Joy on the show button 👇

@MrJking065 Год назад

Hey that is Joy! She is the smartest female talking head in sports!

@thatboikb9466 Год назад

Why does the blame always fall in the players and and never the the people that run the day to day operations? What about the nets staff?

@quilliam8199 Год назад

Did anyone else get uncomfortable when he touched her arm while saying the glasses made her more convincing? Then he put his arm/hand down right next to her and she moved away immediately. Her facial expression was that she was exremely uncomfortable with the situation. Start at 5:02

@bcancun123 Год назад

She looked uncomfortable 🥴 lol

@theodorostziouvaras7684 Год назад

Marcellus I have a question for you? How's the nets dynasty going?

@jrealdahoodsgreatest Год назад

I disagree with Acho Kyrie said that they should start their own league aside from nba

@stevenbrown1762 Год назад

Bruh no matter what kd says it is on kyrie to make his own choices. He is a grown man who has been in the league for 10 years. He can make his own choices like he has his entire career. Kd won't change that

@virgilrobertsjr7870 Год назад

She said Kyrie is a number 3! 😂🤣😂🤣😂 But Joy you just carried Alfred because Alfred was very reliable with Batman's crime fighting efforts! 😭

@irisfryer6531 Год назад

Where's Wiley at?

@justinbyrd626 Год назад

If its LBJs fault that Westbrook is being Westbrook then its Durants fault for Kyrie being Kyrie🤷‍♂️.its literally no different

@theresidentteacher2438 Год назад

For a 7ft Monster KD been letting Kyrie stand over him. Everything Kyrie has convinced KD to do is in Kyrie's best interest. NOT KD's.

@rrsanders44 Год назад

You didn't say this to his face Shawn!!!!

@juliustrice5403 Год назад

Came to look at joy Taylor😍😍

@logicalblackman8228 Год назад

It’s not Kevin Durant’s fault, because this is not who Kevin Durant is. He is not a Tom Brady or a LeBron James. I’m talking about leadership qualities, not talent. And as Joyce says, the bulk of this falls on Kyrie because he is the one doing the actions. He is the one that keeps dropping off the court for various reasons.

@itsjaytwelve3494 Год назад

Kyrie get paid to play ball not to get vaccinated lol

@diegobromfield Год назад

I'll choose Alfred over 20 Kyries. Way more reliable.

@user-jg1ez6kk9e Год назад

It doesn’t make sense how fine joy is

@andrehill7033 Год назад

on momma's, she stay looking fire

@flybynight3512 Год назад

They don't talk about people that got sick from the shot life over money all day

@nurseypie Год назад

KD isn't responsible for who Kyrie is, but he had to know that Kyrie is not a reliable team member. Flashes of good play breeds inconsistency. How can you win with that?

@derrickjjh Год назад

4:18 whe? Where are u dawgg?

@joshuagreene6186 Год назад

All I got out of this Is they are both to blame good points

@juyahmad Год назад

Is this a question? Kyrie is easily to blame for this dysfunction. I mean he’s also the reason James harden wanted out

@Wavy_Godd96 Год назад

No he’s not, he’s not even remotely why, James never wanted to be there.

@juyahmad Год назад

@@Wavy_Godd96 yes he is

@Wavy_Godd96 Год назад

@@juyahmad he’s not, harden was trying to get to Philly, he even admitted so. Thanks to his former GM being there. He was looking for his pay check. And the proof is the contract he’s trying to get now.

@juyahmad Год назад

@@Wavy_Godd96 bruh the only reason he said he was trying to get to Philly was because he was in front of everyone at the sixers press conference. He had a chance to go to Philly and chose the nets, he even talked to KD and kyrie about joining the nets and he said at his nets press conference that he wanted to be there. You can’t be that gullible, if the sixers were his first option, he had a chance to go there when he was in Houston

@Wavy_Godd96 Год назад

@@juyahmad They weren’t trying to trade him to Philly goofy mf, that’s the point the main GM of the rockets knew that and didn’t want to trade him there. Hence he had no choice but to goto Brooklyn and from there he forced a trade and got what he wanted. Where’s harden now tryna to get his max deal from whom not Brooklyn, but Philly. The dude made it clear especially that month he was out parting with lil baby and meek mill.

@m6bimmer30 Год назад

This Batman and Robin thing is getting out of hand. Superstars are all batman. Robins are all-stars or players that can't reach a certain level of play in big games. I thought Kyrie dropped almost 40 game 1 of the Boston series. KD struggled and they lost game 1. That was the series. Kyrie deferred to Kd after that and it didn't work. Lebron recognized that Kyrie can get it done if u let him loose. They still will be the the favorites if he gets resigned

@anthonybrown3481 Год назад

Acho should have been a lawyer.

@brogaming950 Год назад

What Puzzles me is all of a sudden nobody likes KD but when he was in OKC everybody were the biggest KD fan,I never heard anyone say they didn’t like KD.

@franciscolaurean8550 Год назад

There's always been hate for KD specially after joining a 73 win team but it's easier to hate someone when they're down.

@wajahat109 Год назад

“Cause he’s the King” 😂 Some facts

@baziljournalsllc3598 Год назад

Sooooo nobody is going to blame the HC Steve Nash??? Which is the head Leader of the Nets

@robertholguin7010 Год назад

As a casual fan, why is Kevin worried ? If you're the man, you're the man! Quit crying and show yourself!!!

@tedted5904 Год назад

KD should have fought to keep Harden on the roster. Then this would be a non issue.

@senchodaroola1of1 Год назад

Kd my guy but he is to blame. I agree with Ric

@timesize Год назад

It’s apparent to me that Kyrie never planned or wanted Harden to join

@ducejones7963 Год назад

Why is she talking?

@jordanhill6041 Год назад

@Nets Organization. It’s Starts @ the TOP.

@inamorta47-playertwist Год назад

Is this even a debate????

@newagestudios408 Год назад

KD let Kyrie be Kyrie and it backfired on him

@vishbegaming Год назад

So Lesean Mccoy did a whole hour podcast with Kyrie about how he’s one of the misunderstood athletes just to not being up any of the points Kyrie mentioned about the Cavs?

@TOE813 Год назад

Magnet? Huh

@flavefitness4217 Год назад

Shady is awesomeness!

@RickeyJ Год назад

Rick is acknowledging that Kyrie is the problem but he's blaming KD for not fixing it. That's not right. If Kyrie is the problem then it's more on him.

@Thizlamic Год назад

JT is MAGICAL. Kyrie is a wishy washy dude, KD is emotional....you can't win with either running a team.

@brogaming950 Год назад

When has KD ever been a problem on the court?

@BackAgain216 Год назад

Harden would have stayed but he signed on to play with KD and Kyrie, kyrie didn't get vaccine so missed most of the season, Kd got hurt so Harden signed on to be 3rd man and now he got to run the show by himself? I see why they falling apart

@RayanMADAO Год назад

The funniest part about kyrie is how much say he wants to have in the team when he doesn't even put the team as his priority