Lagoon 450 - Bay of Biscay to south Spain, Mediterranean 

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Good idea 👍 thanks 🙏🍻

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I don’t understand what you people have against music! Music and sailing go together is about rhythm of life...

Thanks 🙏 Hope to film how to sail series this summer

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They can but you have to try very hard. We had max. 6m waves, 40kn and no problems.

какое время года идёте? я пойду в начале мая с северной Ирландии,пока ветер держит

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Thanks! In summer it is better but don't go in March like we did.

It was only gopro 6 and no gimbal. It has very good electronic stabilization.

@@IgorStropnik Oh wow, that's awesome. There was another guy who shot a sailing video with a gimbal. It really makes sailing videos so much better. Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z_Dq0f3WwW8.html The audio sounded great too -- that's surprising because I thought GoPro audio wasn't so good?

Gopro is the best.

Gopro 6. It has digital stabilization.

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They all sound like they will fall apart but somehow they dont. I would take 450 over any new model that are kind of soft and low.

Catamaran is more comfortable.

Maybe waves bumping into area between hulls. If you get heavy weather and you sail upwind it sounds like boat will fall apart but it does not as it is well built. When you have normal weather boat is quiet.

All Lagoons creaking that way. Probably built in. And its annoying. Depending how big is the boat. Havnt heard the same on FP for example.

I have a friend who wants to take his boat from Europe to Lake Superior. I hope to join him.

Delivery. I ask if somebody wants to go.

I did. Not expert on that 😞

Flybridge is grate but you don't see people under so dangerous with kids.

I am the only one who still loves tortellini... 😊

@@IgorStropnik That's keen. :) Looks like a pretty rough passage to cross.

March is not best time for Biscay but is doable.

L42 wins at cockpit design, good access to bum and main sail and the best lifting system for dingy. L42 self tack gib sucks- Impossible to trim the sail well. L450F wins at flybridge, more rigid and stronger hulls, better for heavy weather, better in big and short waves as it has more clearence so less banging. Bimini we had was grate for sun and rain but was to high and to big to allow good access to bum and main sail-I find this a big problem for long ocean sailing. Inside the L450F is a little bigger and more space but L42 has lot of space too and both are good for 8 people cruising in comfort. Both catamarans are very well designed and very comfortable. If I had to choose I take L450F because of flybridge. But for much less money you can get L42 with the best cockpit design and you can have furling Code 0 to supplement self tack gib.

Igor Stropnik thank you for detailed info! One more question, based on your personal experience, do you think cats like L450 or 42 with proper crew can handle long passages like transatlantic or pacific? Also do you think in overall catamaran is better choice compared to monohull for long voyages? Thank you again.

Both cats can sail around the world with no problems and with a lot of comfort. For long voyages cats are the best. I would say people buy sailboats becouse they are cheaper, they never tried cats, want good upwind performance, want sporty sailing and don't want to pay more in marinas. Sailboats are more fun to sail but after few days non stop sailing you will wish to be on cat. Only thing I don't like about cruising cats is up wind performance witch is terrible. But all other wind angles are grate.

thank you again.

hi what do you think about cat range 30-38 can be used for blue water ? i mean older cats as I am not rich but looking something affordable are older cats in range above are capable for world cruising ?

A good friend.

@@IgorStropnik lucky guy!

@@jneil78 I wish that was me!

and some ketchup for flavour :)

Nice boat! Looks light and fast. How long is it and the weight?

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4,75 m in lenght, 70 Kg the hull (6mm plywood)... light and fast! Class "Goat Island Skiff", design by Michael Storer.

This was March and hard to get good weather window to cross biscay. On video you see few biggest waves otherwise it was not too bad. You can go diagonal but than you dont get where you have to go. Swell is always into biscay so if you loose height you will get eaven worese or stuck for sever days or more in harbour.

That way of sailing will not really diminish hull life.. what manual did you reed.?

@@MonkPetite it is just a fatique loading and every part has a life.

I agree. I have never seen lagoon cat have problems with hull because of sailing in waves. Hull will live longer than most other parts of the boat.

B&G is funny as I could not set awa and aws on small screen. I put it on plotter. Twd is good to follow for wind shift tendency. For getting max out of sails I use extra ropes but it is not racing so after setting all the ropes over and over again and wind shifting sometimes you get lazy especially if your speed is already very good.

Up to 150nm on this trip.

@@IgorStropnik Igor, para ti cual es MEJOR catamarán para cruce del Atlántico : el asprea 42 fp el elba 45 fp , lagoon 44, 46 gracias por tu informacion y buenos vientos 🤗🇦🇷

⁠@@JoseRivero-js5owI only sailed 46. Elba is probably similar to Saona who I gave good review. Fp42 probably the worst of these. L440 might be the best option but never sailed it. 440 seams like good old boat before Lagoon started doing to flexy boats. Any of these boats should bring you to Caribbean but don’t take them to North Atlantic in winter.

@@IgorStropnik Gracias x tu informacion buenos vientos

Cheap diesel...

:) I am getting old...

It is diffrent motion than monohull but most of time I find catamarans more comfortable.

Subtitles should be there now I hope.