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Leaving Betaflight! -- BF to iNAV quick convert 

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• iNAV Explained
00:00 - Start
00:41 - Do you have an iNAV Target?
01:36 - Grabbing Betaflight Settings
02:15 - Basic iNAV Setup Tips
04:53 - Betaflight to iNAV Filter Changes
15:34 - Betaflight to iNAV PID Settings
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Комментарии : 76   
@trpalmer
@trpalmer 8 месяцев назад
Appreciate this! With all the variances in filter options (hidden or otherwise), etc. a complete tuning video for INAV on a 7" quad could be great for the community..... but this is also a reason to join your Patreon.
@adilsongoliveira
@adilsongoliveira 9 месяцев назад
I asked for INAV content, and here it is! Thanks! :)
@BoilerFPV
@BoilerFPV 9 месяцев назад
I've been looking for this kind of translation between BF and INAV for a while. Thanks!
@EricLaermans
@EricLaermans 6 месяцев назад
I subscribed because I noticed your name in a Betaflight preset (PID-tune) which turned out pretty okay. Thanks for that!
@dronesdronesdrones2891
@dronesdronesdrones2891 9 месяцев назад
Great video! Trying out INAV made me appreciate all the work thats been done on betaflight like resource mapping, user friendly pid/filter tuning, flight performance, not bouncing on landing etc. Would love to see flight differences of a tuned bf vs inav setup 😮
@yuriy77
@yuriy77 9 месяцев назад
This video just demonstrated how good betaflight is in terms of tuning process and how much effort and thought was put in it (rpm filter, sliders, filter setup to name some), and archaic approach of inav. Not saying inav is bad or anything, but this video made an impression - one step forward, 3 steps back.
@JohnIn2SonAZ
@JohnIn2SonAZ 7 месяцев назад
We need this Mark!
@AliAerialVideography
@AliAerialVideography 9 месяцев назад
waiting for the next video about all setting of iNAV ✌
@Happyflyhigh
@Happyflyhigh 9 месяцев назад
Yeah! I have Croc 5 that need a reason to get off the shelf. Been wanting to check out INAV.
@danpenry8899
@danpenry8899 9 месяцев назад
RTH landings are within a few feet of the takeoff point with my 7" quad with inav
@typxxilps
@typxxilps 9 месяцев назад
great one!
@sakuratears9731
@sakuratears9731 9 месяцев назад
Reliability rank: Ardupilot->iNav->Betaflight. I have tuned an ardupilot 7 inch for myself and it flies excellent. However, initial setup and tuning is a nightmare😂 it’s way more complicated than inav and bf
@Dec1duousTree
@Dec1duousTree 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@bizzfpv
@bizzfpv 9 месяцев назад
I was about to reflash my inav quad over to betaflight. Position hold is cool and all, but not worth giving up flight performance. Gonna have to try these tips now and give inav another chance.
@adilsongoliveira
@adilsongoliveira 9 месяцев назад
Already sent to my INAV user friends. I would like to make a suggestion, what about a spreadsheet that help this conversion? I have a 10" that comes tuned from factory. I have the betaflight dump and would be nice to have a way to automate the conversion. I understand it is not a 1:1 but would be a better starting point as INAV's defaults won't work well for large quad like that. Thanks in advance.
@dronauticaltech-fun3485
@dronauticaltech-fun3485 9 месяцев назад
Hello Sir, I have watched all your videos and all are very informative, Thank you very much, I have learned many things through your video. Just a Little request can you please upload a video about filter tuning on INAV. Thank you very much 😊
@gavsfpv3786
@gavsfpv3786 9 месяцев назад
Keep it up!
@selfish1716
@selfish1716 9 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot, good initial intro, since Inav is good for big quads can you maybe have a tuning lesson on big quads using Inav?
@phiveone
@phiveone 9 месяцев назад
I don't have anything that runs INAV myself. I would be curious for a brief rundown of what INAV really gets you over any other FW, not just BF. Neat stuff!
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 8 месяцев назад
The big overall difference is right in the name - navigation. INAV is the way to go if you want to fly TO somewhere. You want to fly over this house and take video, and then go over there. Heck, if you want to, you can put the radio down, go inside and let INAV fly the preprogrammed mission to the locations you specified. Most people don't go that far, but you could. Betaflight is more focused on aerobatics, "flippity floppities". Betaflight if you are mainly interested in doing flips and stuff, not going anywhere.
@Drieeedger
@Drieeedger 9 месяцев назад
One thing to note for those coming to iNav from betaflight, is that rescue mode, aka return to home, may not be available for many people, as iNav requires a compass for any navigation features to work on a quad. This poses a problem as most BNF quads with a gps do not also have a compass.
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
i don't think that is accurate. let me check.
@Drieeedger
@Drieeedger 9 месяцев назад
@@uavtechI wish it were inaccurate, but it is not. There is an open, outstanding issue (#4999) on the project for years now regarding this, and iNav developers do not wish to add an 'inferior' and 'pointless' RTH mode to work without a compass. They specifically refer to the Betaflight implementation as 'rubbish' and refuse to take a step backwards. Its sad really, as most of gps in my fleet are bn220's that serve me well for basic rth in beatflight, as well as rth in iNav on the fixed wing configuration.
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 8 месяцев назад
On the other hand, INAV return to home works much, much better. You can get where you're going a lot better if you know which way you're heading. The compass tells you which way you're heading.
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 8 месяцев назад
That is something to note - and you can swap out your old GPS for a new, better, $10 M9 GPS that comes with a compass.
@illuminatorix
@illuminatorix 2 дня назад
Hello and thank you for this video! I have a GepRC Cinelog35 and I wanted to fly it with iNav, but from all these that i see I might not to... way more complicated than I thought to make it fly perfect. :(
@ozbej1111
@ozbej1111 9 месяцев назад
hello, please do more videos on inav..more about pid tuning and filters would be nice..if there was an option for inav to make the sliders like in betaflight it would be easier to pid tune..great work 🫡
@uavtech
@uavtech 8 месяцев назад
Agreed. First order of business though is it needs to have i -term on Alt Hold added.
@rrenegadoo
@rrenegadoo 8 месяцев назад
why when I Open the Inav I can't connect my new Mateksys F405-WMN ?, I can't see any COM, I only have Manual Selection, BLE, TCP,UDP,SITL and Demo mode?.... Thx.
@failforcesquad
@failforcesquad 9 месяцев назад
So I can finish my 7" finaly 😁
@Sleeperknot
@Sleeperknot 4 месяца назад
Can INAV7 be configured to control the VTX power from the radiomaster TX12 MKII ELRS transmitter?
@uavtech
@uavtech 4 месяца назад
yea, if the VTX supports Smart Audio or Tramp protocols to adjust settings.
@Quick-Flash
@Quick-Flash 9 месяцев назад
I've ran the unicorn filter through bode plot tools before and it does not act quite like a pt1. It has a different behavior.
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
that's so 2018. 😜
@Quick-Flash
@Quick-Flash 9 месяцев назад
@@uavtech bode plots?
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
the Kalman stuff. just messing around. Hope you are well. Thanks for watching.
@technicalsupport6983
@technicalsupport6983 9 месяцев назад
Thank you ....... I wonder 🤔 how to convert my speedybee F405 to inav . And your tutorial help me a lot ? Can you please make a video how to set the position hold in details using gps , barro and small lider
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
yes
@BrainDeadEngineering
@BrainDeadEngineering 9 месяцев назад
I seen my MAMBA in list ! I'm in ! .......
@upnorthFPVandEUC
@upnorthFPVandEUC 4 месяца назад
Hello, I am trying to go from beta flight to inav. I have flashed the correct FC, and I’m now trying to copy settings, but nothing is saving. When I hit saving and reboot, it just reverts to the stock setting.
@uavtech
@uavtech 4 месяца назад
you cannot copy setting from BF and paste into INAV.
@upnorthFPVandEUC
@upnorthFPVandEUC 4 месяца назад
Right thanks. I wasn’t trying to do that.. I think the problem was I’ve got used to setting up MSP for the canvas mode in port settings of BF and Inav isn’t excepting that.. to clarify for others: you still enable msp on the proper uart.. you just do not also select that uart in the first column.
@wKich
@wKich 9 месяцев назад
I faced with some problems when I tried to switch to inav: - There is no dynamic resource remapping. To remap resource you have to build custom firmware - Devs are not willing to add additional new targets even manufacture might want to. So some manufacturers just build custom firmware. - It's possible to arm from radio in configuration by accident, which is not safe for me. - inav devs complain about SpeedyBeeF405 v3 stack (FC+ESC) and don't want to add support dshot, so only multishot is supported and the ESC from the stack supports only dshot. So, maybe inav is good for navigation, but all these cons are stop factors from using inav
@wKich
@wKich 9 месяцев назад
also I couldn't find any asnwer how to migrate actual rates to inav rates.
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
There is a motor remapping tool in 6.1.1. You can also go old school in the CLI and use the RESOURCE command. I don't think there is a direct converstion for rates.
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 8 месяцев назад
If you can find one single case where a manufacturer put in a feature request, with the very well documented procedures, and got turned down, I'd love to see it. If someone half asked for something, but didn't actually specify what they wanted, then completely ignored multiple requests for clarification, then yeah it would be impossible to fulfill whatever they were thinking they wanted, but refused to actually tell us. It's not that we don't WANT to rewire the SpeedyBee F405V3 to fix the board layout bugs. It's just that once you produce a printed circuit board, it's too late to redesign the circuit. We can't fix their hardware mistakes after the hardware has been manufactured. I have no idea what "you can accidentally arm" is supposed to mean, but are you the same person who was asking for a custom version with absolutely of the many safety checks removed, the checks that prevent arming when it would be unsafe?
@Vagnerfpv
@Vagnerfpv 8 месяцев назад
Did you test any configuration like this in inav?
@uavtech
@uavtech 8 месяцев назад
Yes
@Waikhom007
@Waikhom007 6 месяцев назад
can i use my mamba f405 mk2 with inav? it has external gps.
@uavtech
@uavtech 6 месяцев назад
If the target is in the list, yes. I would need to look.
@Les_Grossman
@Les_Grossman 9 месяцев назад
So and what about Magnetmeter aka Compass? Needed?? Where to mount when its not in the GPS module? Where to mount If so? Thanks 👍
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
compass needed.
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 8 месяцев назад
Compass is used for navigation modes, like waypoint missions, position mode, and the very precise return to home. It's not needed for acro (rate) mode, angle mode, horizon mode, etc. Compass should be mounted away from power wires and the buzzer. One good approach is to have the power wire, VTX, and telemetry Rx at the front or back, with the GPS/mag on the opposite end. So if the VTX and main power wires are in the back, the GPS/compass can go in the front, above the camera. Or vice versa. If you want to protect the compass or other top-mounted components in an upside-down crash, you can replace two of the top plate screws with standoffs.
@zoeconner11
@zoeconner11 8 месяцев назад
Would you know why we are missing UART3? I GPS WAS ON IT.
@uavtech
@uavtech 8 месяцев назад
In iNAV it is repirposed to SCL and SDA pads.
@zoeconner11
@zoeconner11 8 месяцев назад
Sorry new. Do I need to move pads?
@zoeconner11
@zoeconner11 8 месяцев назад
I flashed new from BF. I have a 5" baby croc F722 AIO. ANY CLUE?
@ulightme
@ulightme 6 месяцев назад
holly molly!!!!! I was thinking to myself ... hmmm I really wanna try iNav on my flywoo explorer lr .... it has a gps and stuff ... but man .. after this I don't feel like it anymore. Thanks for the video .. but why can't we just upload our backup to some webpage that will spit out iNav equivalent restore? Yup, I'm lazy! 😂 😂
@uavtech
@uavtech 6 месяцев назад
You can just apply the preset and fly. But.if you wanted to move.over you setting....
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 9 месяцев назад
When is betaflight 4.5 going to release?
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
unknown. volunteers are busy. RC1 is talked about, but ... A DSHOT trouble was needing to be addressed. There is some fundamental stuff like that to grabs attention and time.
@butcher
@butcher 9 месяцев назад
The biggest problem with inav features that it requires compass which is a real pain in the ass. I would love to use position hold and waypoints, but calibrating compass is too annoying.
@Siamect
@Siamect 9 месяцев назад
You do that only once... it's not a DJI we are dealing with...
@butcher
@butcher 9 месяцев назад
@@SiamectGood luck for the rth if you did that once :D :D :D I guess you never read the inav docs, even devs recommend to calibrate it before every flight.
@Siamect
@Siamect 9 месяцев назад
@@butcher I have obviously both read and flown iNav more than you. As an example, I calibrated my magnetometer once on one of my drones and I flew that drone for two years several times per week... Switched back and forth between position hold and acro several times every flight and there was never any problems. There is of course no reason to re-calibrate unless you experience problems.
@butcher
@butcher 9 месяцев назад
@@Siamect Yeah, devs must be wrong :D It necessarry for rth and wayponts, not really for post hold.
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 8 месяцев назад
​​@@butcher INAV dev here. No we don't say you need to calibrate for every flight. I calibrate mine when I install a new GPS/compass. Unless I forget to do it. If you travel to a new location, such as going up to Denver at 5,000 feet elevation from the coast, you may get better precision if you calibrate for the new environment. It's totally unnecessary to calibrate for every flight.
@bulufish8208
@bulufish8208 9 месяцев назад
Inav is like going from windows to Macintosh. I'll stick with Betaflight.
@martianmcfly
@martianmcfly 9 месяцев назад
Meh, INAV 6 wrecked the rover function! GL Drone boys!
@sandersassen
@sandersassen 9 месяцев назад
Sassy observation: how did you manage to talk about filters for 12 minutes when there's so much more to talk about and explore with iNAV? I realize filters are what you are passionate about, but c'mon they are not the be all and end all of tuning and iNAV offers so much more. I'll be looking for a 2nd installment of this video, covering the other stuff that iNAV has to offer.
@uavtech
@uavtech 9 месяцев назад
Cause it is confusing and when you are converting from BF to iNAV, there hiddent filters that degrade it's performance.
@mrjupi4813
@mrjupi4813 5 месяцев назад
inav is sticky as cold asfault i tried to use it but way too sticky sorry inav fix the sticky please 👎👎👎👎
@uavtech
@uavtech 5 месяцев назад
sticky? What do you mean by "sticky"?
@demirfpv1563
@demirfpv1563 9 месяцев назад
change dterm_lpf_type = PT3 to dterm_lpf_type = PT2
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