LEBRON FAN REACTS TO Detailed Michael Jordan analysis: using new data to gauge his impact 

Lebrons 3 point average is 34.6. In an era where 3s are a huge part of the game.

Saying a player "gambled on defense" is like saying a player like Curry gambled with 3-point attempts.

Michael Jordan is the best defensive Guard of all time. The fact that Jordan was so good at gambling had teams SHOOK to pass the ball along the perimeter and also had teams petrified to throw cross court passes. Jordan is the only basketball player I’ve ever seen lock down an entire side of the court. On some all time cornerback Deion Sanders type shit. Stats don’t show that. I don’t like how he didn’t point out the fact that’s Jordan was mostly successful in gambling to the point where teams were always aware of him with their own team was on offense. The guy in the video only focused on the few times he gambled and failed. There’s a reason Michael Jordan didn’t lose more than 2 games in a from 1990 to 1998.

at 31:43 no, his advanced stats did not show that. his personal opinion told you that he did not agree with his stats, so he hit you with "i find Jordan's high-risk defensive style to be difficult to evaluate"

A deep analysis MJ is an all time great if not top 5 PLAYER ever..he gave no statistics that matter..Jerry West says he’s the best player on both ends. He has to help his teammates in the paint due to WHO THEY WERE..Corzine and Cartwright couldn’t guard the centers of that era. That’s ludicrous to even think..once the defense became more stable MJ started locking down even when he had to take pippens assignment. MJ had ZERO flaws on defense

Something about this dude, he keeps giving out false info. When the 3 point line was shortened from 95 to 97, Jordan shot 40% from 3, peaking out at 43% in 1996.

This video is like muddy water. It uses scenarios that didn't occur often or weren't that big a deal to undercut the fact that not only was Jordan a great scorer, he stopped or negated almost half as many points as an average scorer would put up. Then it makes it sound like he was a fouling machine and that just wasn't the case. He was just excellent at anticipating moves and plays so naturally teams had to watch out for that and counter it sometimes. It makes every single thing seem as it happened separately and in a vacuum not in relation to each other and evolving like that Karl Malone steal from the finals. It wasn't a gamble. Jordan said that they literally ran the same play from the previous possession. This guy makes it sound like he's just out there doing random things.

I don't think this video discussed Jordan's defense when he wasn't gambling or blocking enough, like his man to man defense and perimeter defense.

The shortened 3 point line shot % is a little misleading. I thought he was talking about Jordans peak from 87-91. The 3 point line wasnt shortened until 94-95. In the 91 finals and Jordan shot 50% from 3 in that series. So its a bit missleading because Jordan proved he can shoot the 3 when it matters most before the shortened line, and in other playoffs series shooting over 40%. People bring up the shortened line to make it seem like the league was helping Jordan. Yes they may have done it to help the league as a whole, but not specifically for Jordan. Jordan himself already proved he can shoot the 3, so why would they need to shorten it for Jordan to help him, when he already proved he can win without a shortened 3 point line, it was mainly for to incentivise more 3's from the league as a whole. Yes the shortned 3 point line happened, but to me Jordan is a 31-34% three point shooter in the regular season, and in the playoffs he can bring it up to 35-45% in the playoffs, regardless of the line distance. But yea, nice reaction bro

Jordan never averaged 13 free throws a game, per 100 is a stat that seeks to hold every era of basketball to the same standard in terms of pace and ppg regardless of whether we're looking at a game from the 80s or the modern day NBA. Jordan's career high in free throws was 1987 when he averaged 12.

Jordan was truly 1 of a kind

I heard he got that 4.4 down to 4.3. Also, I think you're right when you say Jordan is the perfect player. You could almost say he has areas of his game that aren't as strong as opposed to weaknesses.

jordan ran a 4.3. but more than anything, it's great to see someone young like yourself actually EDUCATING themselves on the game instead of falling for the Lebron media hype that ESPN and the NBA have created. and yeah on the passing, he had to judge who that person was in taking that shot over him. Jordan did not need to be a great passer. and lol, what highlight video would be of someones defensive strikeouts? highlight reels are the HIGHLIGHTS lol. this guy. Reggie Jackson has the most strikeouts and there isnt anyone saying he wasnt an amazing all time hitter. There is not another defensive perimeter player better in history. This guys VERY subjective with his PERSPECTIVE of "STATS".

Say Big Plug! That was some good stuff bro! I like the in depth look at the goat! It's crazy seeing how aggressive he was😂! To the extent it burned him at times lol! It happens to all of'm especially being hyper aggressive. Where his -'s turn to +'s is he can make the bad up in buckets! Not a lot of people can recoup funds like Mike bro! Damn good show my guy✊️

The huge majority of basketball analysts and basketball players consider Jordan one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time. The person in this video said it's his "opinion" after watching 200 games. That's less than 2 and a half seasons out of his 15 seasons..

Many people point this out. High free throw rates negate Jordan's lack of 3-pointers being a weakness. Steph Curry doesnt have 13 free throw attempts per game. So Jordan late game can rack up alot of points during clutch. Thats sort of what midrange masters did. They leap to the basketball hoop while shooting, giving defenders the tough choice of risking a foul by contesting the sudden layup or getting out of the way and allowing an easy points

I don’t understand why they would put “spacing” in the attributes. That’s weird. It’s not up to Jordan alone to space the floor. That’s a coaching/team decision.

Good video but minor errors. Jordan's peak 3-point shooting was 37% in 1989-1990. And 38.9% during the 1991-1993 playoffs. When the 3-point line was moved closer, Jordan shot 50% from 3-point range in 1995, 42% in 1996, then 38% in 1997. 1998 was when MJ struggled again from 3-point. But, Jordan did not really attempt threes unless it was the end of the quarter and he was tossing the ball up from across the court

Most of the vets in the 80s didn’t play with a 3 point line while in high school or college. The 3pt line came to the NBA didn’t come to the NBA till the late 70s and 86 in college.

His smoking and drinking had nothing to do with it since he didn’t start til after the chips starting coming and his cardio preparation is unmatched til today..Rick Fox tells a story on how he saw MJ cardio training..like no other not Lebron not Kobe not Iverson

Jordan was 50% in 95 season and 42,7% in 96 season with a shortened 3 point line. his best season with regular 3 point line was 37,6% in the 89/90 season

@Queztheplug No young brotha: A) prime MJ consistently ran a 4.2 - 4.3 in the 40 and had a '48 vertical B) Phil was previously the Bulls assistant coach and took over as head coach in '90 and they won it all the next year ('91).

He’s also exaggerating MJ’s mistakes on defense and passing

Man this is a really great video. I’ve watched a hundred on Jordan but the man who made this video is something new. Really really good

The video showed Jordan vs Magic Johnson in just 1 game. The missing context is that Magic Johnson was embarrassingly efficient for all the other games in the finals. Magic Johnson only averaged 41% field goals in Bulls vs Lakers 1991 finals. Jordan did fine guarding Magic. Magic Johnson had 1 good game, 4 very bad games as he just bricked

bro the mid-range game has always been the game just like the game in the paint, the 3 point game is more of a skill game that was then later added to the game

You nailed it at 20:32 about the thought of passing if you’re scoring better than your teammates. Love this breakdown

They did NOT get a ring Phil Jackson first year..they went exactly one game further and in his first year MJ’s scoring went up

I've watched this video a billion times, but Ben still ended up putting MJ at 1 when he does the final rankings for greatest peaks. But in fairness, his advance stats tend to measure impact, which pretty much negates intangibles.

@Queztheplug One thing I never understood is why does the 3 ball even matter when he has the HIGHEST SCORING AVG in NBA History?? Let this sink in, Stephen Curry is the greatest 3pt shooter in NBA History, yet he is #34 on the All-time scoring list😮. He has made more 3's than ANYONE, but is 34th in total points. Jordan has the highest scoring avg ever regular season and playoffs, for the video to mention the 3 ball as a weakness is irrelevant. He didn't need it, and it didn't hurt his team or his overall effectiveness or efficiency. To me, it's a mute point. Another thing I didn't like is how he pointed out that Jordan gambled on defense, but never mentioned that he won the steals title 3 times, and is # 4 All-time in total steals. The 3 guys ahead of him all played 19 or more seasons , while Jordan only played 13 full seasons. Great job by you. Good rection video.

There are 2 other guys who did this on a wider scale and gives percentages that say the opposite. He won defensive player of the year and he was always high in t he voting for dop. Jordan shared the ball a lot more as a point gaurd and in his first couple seasons. Coaches made him a score first player alond with horrible teammates. Jordan took Scottie under his wing helped create the player Scottie became. To win titles he needed someone else he could depend on to make and create plays. Jordan had Scottie and Grant, most of the rest of that team was made up of players nobody else wanted. Jordan is the GOAT

Jordans "poor" 3pt shooting is exaggerated. His low %'s came when he was averaging less than 2 attempts per game, often times just bad shots at the end of quarters. Essentially he wasn't even shooting 3s. Seasons where he actually did shoot some 3s like in 93', or 90' he averaged 35.2% and 37.6%.

What you are seeing in this video is the result of how fundamentally sound Jordan is. That is why he always squared up even when he knew he was going to be fouled. He wanted to make you pay for hitting him. You couldn't make mistakes while defending against Jordan, he'd make you pay. Any mistake you made against him, he would capitalize. You could not defeat him after he got the first Chip, no matter what you did. I watched game footage on this dude when I was playing competitive B-Ball, being a pro prospect. I watched as though I was preparing to guard Jordan, he was a nightmare to prepare for. From what I saw... Jordan had no weaknesses by his 3rd year in the league. When he was drafted they said he couldn't shoot, he worked and made that a strength. By 1988 he was shooting 38% from 3-point range in the playoffs. Jordan could should the 3 when he wanted to. All they could try was hitting him (Bad Boy Pistons) when he came down the lane, just pissed him off and Jordan would go even harder. He averaged 37ppg in the regular season against the Detroit Pistons.

Thanks for this master video reaction

LeBron always wore #23 for MJ. MJ touched many lives. If it wasn't for him, the NBA wouldn't be where it is today. Who else dunks with their tongue out? Don't worry, I'll wait.

yep do them all bro. keep em coming

MJ was at his prime Peak 91-93 ...When Phil replaced Doug Collins ...Phil told him in order to get rings he had to trust his teammates more which means focus less on taking reckless shots and more on passing to open teammates

Phil Jackson, took over as head coach of The Chicago Bulls, after the ‘88/‘89 season. Coach Doug Collins, was fired following the season…Phil Jackson was one of the assistant coaches at the time.

MJ was the o ly “scorer” on that list of point guards

During his first year at UNC he ran 4.640 by the next year and you got that down to a 4.3 and got taller at the same time

I enjoyed your analysis.

All time great defender counting all positions not just guards

Jordan was the first to be best at athleticism and best at fundamentals no one has come close since especially now where defense is non existent

BTW... Jordan shot 40% from 3-point range 1 season I know of for certain.

He ran a 4'38 🫣 He shot 42% from 3 in the 96 season. Great video but to say he wasn't an all time defender is laughable 😂

You are 100% the mentality is key.

I think when you talk about Jordan’s defensive stats by the book don’t work cause the work he put in on defense was what changed games from loses to wins. He may not be described as all time defensive great but you can’t deny what he did in a game to change the outcome of that game which is why I think stats don’t tell the whole story of a players greatness.

Actual Phil Jackson got there in 89/90. The dude in the video is wrong

This was when Michael Jordan with very young this is really old

The thing about MJ's "weakness" being the 3 point shot...is that his "weakness" read that he wasn't above average in that area. He was average. Not BELOW average... just... average. His 3pt average was the NBA avg. So, the worst area of of MJ's game, was still average. That in itself is incredible.

JOrdan and Bird fans may not COMPLETELY agree but NOBODY is perfect lol.. great reaction. Keep in mind that they analyze KD, Lebron and Curry also...

Jordan had games where he had double digit steals.

Jordan ran a 4.3 with a 49-50 inch vertical

He’s saying he is an all-time league defender but perhaps not all-time great…but it seems pretty clear that at his position, shooting guard, he was an all time great…he just maybe a shade below the all time greats who were all big men (or at least above 6’10”) like Russel, Wallace, and KG.

9x defensive 1st team and DPOY = not all time defensive great. LMAO! that's some good stuff you're smoking man

If there is confusion in the comments, its because the 1989-1991 was used to represent Jordan's entire career. Thats not bad since thats 2 out of MJ's 4 peak seasons.m(1987-1991)

not sure if there’s another two-way player that scored at volume the way MJ did… So his ability to do multiple things on the court while still holding scores under their average, isn’t only elite level, but it’s what adds to the legacy of him being the GOAT

Jordan s ankles AND knees were made of rubber...if "you" are a "rim defense" center like Hakeem or David Robinson, he knows how to get the ball by you...clean... If you're a 6'10" PF like Bird, he knew how to buckle your forward motion, and would simply step around you...

JORDAN said Kobe stole all my moves😩😂

you mention the drinking and cigar smoking. not sure how much cigars affect someone. if i remember right you're not suppose to inhail the cigar smoke. just puff it in your mouth for the flavor. someone correct me if i'm wrong please. Either he was different. Reminds me of arguably the greatest MMA fighter ever who was a heavy drinking and cigarette smoker (2packs a day or more). In the greatest athletic feet I've ever seen. He fought undefeated Royce Gracie in an hour and half long match and forced him to throw in the towel. It was Royce's first loss ever, the winner of 3 UFC tournaments. They were in the first Pride FC Grand Prix (tournament). Everyone thought he would bow out of the 2nd round fight against no. 1 HW Igor Vovchachyn, who actually had his first round fight first on the card, so he was able to rest up. Sakuraba came out and fought Igor to a Draw in regulation. He dominated the first 10 minutes of the 15 minute match, then gassed and took a lil beating, leading to the draw. Sakuraba was too exhausted to do an overtime round having fought 105 minutes in that night and giving up 50lbs to Igor. I've still never seen anything like it.

Jordan's 3 was 34% in a league that shot 37% at the time, so you can't really say anything about that. He shot "average" for the player her was.

11:43 Jerry Krause the GM put Phil Jackson on the head coach's staff four years prior. The head coach was Doug Collins. Jackson was ready to take his job and did so in 1989. His first year as head coach the Bulls lost the Eastern Conference Championship in 7 games with Scottie Pippen unable to play well because of a migraine (Pippen shot 1 for 10).

Yup. It's the big hands. Doing one hand dunk. He can maneuver his hand to dodge those blocks. Usually, there's only one trajectory of dunkiny. Like a rainbow shot woth your hand. Except MJ can do a left and right maneuver tthen dunk.

That video sounded crazy because he said Jordan was bad at shooting 3s at 34% but that was the league average then he said his defense was bad because he gambled but those gamble gave him a defensive player of the year I guess I couldn't understand it so I guess it was a good take

after watching these series, it REINFORCED what I already knew (with some clarity). Mike was athletically gifted. Bird was intellectually gifted. BOTH had great fundies. few weaknesses. The other series are great too.

This is biased. He gambled on defense as if that was a weakness. He won more hands than he lost with those gambles or he wouldn't have 9x All defense first team honors (tied for most ever) and a DPOY award.

Jordan’s weakness? His desire to win at all costs. In their primes, Jordan is better. 6 finals. 6 championships. True leader. In a time where if there was no blood or a bodies flying there was no foul, he had to be quick to create. Was lucky enough to watch his whole career. It was one of a kind.

His 3 point shooting that he is referring to is in the years between 98 and 91 as the video states (Best Peaks). In those 3 years, he peaked out at 34%

MJ NO1 BY FAAAR 😊😊😊! WITH or WITHOUT ADVANCED STATS!😊 LeCHOKE AINT even close😮😮😮!

Only player in NBA history with multiple 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season.

MJ IS JUST THE 🐐

No...got a ring Phils 2nd year

PEOPLE always say when SCOTTIE PIPPEN arrived this and that HOWEVER LEFLOP has had a MILLION TEAMMATES aka HELP 😳

Jordan wasnt perfect. He wasnt AS aware as bird was (but who is really tho) and Jordan could get tunnel vision while scoring, but he is as close to perfect as they come. Bird too, he just wasnt that athletic.

Lebrons 3 point percentage, 34%

Plus rounds of golf ⛳️ smoking cigars and drinking arriving early and practicing. He simply wanted to win.

Gambling = strategy, as can be seen when coaches make player changes in basketball, bring in a relief pitcher in baseball, and elect to go for it on 4th down in football. How many coaches/players gambled and lost? Too many; just ask Russ Wilson and Pete Carroll. Sometimes, though, it pays to gamble. Aaron Rodgers and Pat Mahomes are epic gamblers (running with the ball/throwing I’ll-advised passes) and they have 3 SB victories between them.

Jordan’s three point percentage of 34% wasn’t really a “weakness” since the league average was also ~34%. So, he was an average three point shooter for his era. The weakest part of his game perhaps but not a ‘weakness’.

Another exaggeration of Pippen

Gambling on defense is literally what you are supposed to do if you have insane recovery speed like michael jordan... He is an all-time great defender. This dude is literally just looking for something to hate. his numbers don't agree with him..

Doing all the dribbling, Mike called that a waste of energy, These young cats just wanna be flashy and shit.

Curry, Jordan, Bird, KG and Shaq. Thats my starting 5. ONLY Jordan is ball dominant and EVEN HE moved well without the ball. the oTHER 4 guys I have here are mASTERS of movement WITHOUT the ball AND can iso as well. bird and curry the primary playmakers AND shooters, (jordan and KG AND Shaq can playmake as well) Jordan is my 1st option, Shaq 2nd, Bird 3rd.. Curry to stretch the floor (Bird too) KG to be a defensive safety and roam the court on the defensive end (Bird and even Jordan did this too) to cover up Shaq's deficiencies defending outside of the paint, and Curry and Bird's spotty man defense. Shaq clogs the paint. I dont want ball stoppers on my team, they dont always mesh with other great scorers. if Im guna have ONE ball dominant player, then that has to be Jordan. the OTHER 4 guys HAVE to work OFF ball IN MY lineup.

Stop saying because of the age of LeBron, he is excused! Stop playing if your to old. How many 💵he gets for playing the game? Watch a game and look at your player and be real. He's not the great one he was at his start. He is a great athlete, but you have to stop behave like that and just watch the highlights where the media is lifting him up. There are many great players and LeBron is one of them❤. But the present time should tell you he had his time. He can only make his greatness look bad. He has accomplished so much👍and can not get better anymore. I would like to see jr getting great! We should enjoy the game, it's a team sport, instead of praising bad behavior. And i'm not talking about one player, but the game and how it's played today. Big❤for all LeBron fans.

Only competition for GOAT is Wilt.

BRUH!!!

🐐 didn't drink or smoke like that bro He took care of his body. That's how he was able to overcome the Pistons hard body fouling him N they didn't win the 🏆 in Phil Jackson first year🫡 Lebron shoots the 3 at about the same pct🤷 They're average 3 pt shooters But it's the only average part of 🐐 game The closest to the most complete player you will ever see 💪

Not 40" 48" vertical. Only Mike and Wilt.

Michael Jordan’s lifetime career shooting field goal is 50 freaking percent as a guard who does that nobody except Michael Jeffrey Jordan the real number 23

MJ called scottie SELFISH. reality 22:03 nah bro... You cannot conclude the stats for MJ as the greatest, Wilt will be unreachable if they had recorded his blocks. Wilt has the highst PPG, Highest Rebounds, and Highest Blocks to ever played the game... Because we have record of MJ he will stand as the GOAT followed by Wilt. If we add 3.5 blocks per game, wilt career PER is 34-40... MJ is 31.7 at his best.

Three point percentage same as LeBron and when he wanted he could hit them. NBA finals 6 three pointers in a half. 35 points . Look at all those game winners

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

Dude data is off alot

MJ shot better off the dribble than spotting up.

4.3 40.

MJ led the league in steals and won DPOY. I'll take the gambling. This video isn't showing a true rep of how well he played defense against the Lakers. All guys who gamble miss sometimes. I could pick videos out from anyone and say "sometimes they didn't do well."

Lebums three point percentage is terrible to look it up!!!

Greatest weak side defender ever.

nah bro, Jordan is the most gifted and the best scorer. don't buy into this kd hype. saying you wish kd had his mentality is like saying I wish jordan had kds height

Well, LB 3s % is 35 so...

After your 10th 'bro' I quit watching...... By the way, MJ is the GOAT by a landslide