LET'S ARGUE: Which God is The Best God of War? 

Hot take: Ares isn't stupid for making Kratos kill his family, rather, Ares never really valued the concept of family to begin with. Look at Ares' parents, Zeus was obviously always a peace of crap, and from what we saw of Hera in GOW3, she didn't really seam like a great mother ether. On top of that, Ares abandoned his own son Orcos just because he didn't turn out to be the warrior he wanted him to be in Ascension. Ares never really valued "family" at all. We all think that others think the same way we do. Ares simply assumed that Kratos had the same outlook on "family" as him, they both had a similar level of ambition and bloodlust after all. That and Kratos and his wife did argue a lot as well, that's all Ares saw. Ares looked at Kratos and was like "he just like me fr fr!" Ares didn't know that Kratos appreciated "family" more than he ever could.

We did actually see Ares on a small form. When he rides a horse with Athena and takes away Deimos.

Hot take: Poseidon and Hades die wayyy too early on in the story of GOW3. It kinda breaks the tension of the story. Imagine the entire game hyping up kratos to fight the big 3 of Olympus and made it seem like a MOUNTAIN of a job. Similar to how they hyped up facing Ares in GOW1. Instead Poseidon and Hades are literally the first two that die.

hot take: ares is the best gow . in order to kill ares kratos needed the help of gods and pandora's box . this shows how hard to take ares down. and the point when you said ares is kinda dumb for revealing himself isn't right . due to ares being a god he thought kratos would obey but kratos rejected him . he did want to rebel on olympus with kratos and pandora's box . but in the end he did get the box without kratos in his side plus he killed him 1 stone 2 birds that would be the case if zeus didn't save him from hades . ares knows how to kill a man how to destroy a god his ways are the true ways of a gow even if they're brutal.

Ares LITERALLY was war personified, AND is naturally EXTREMELY powerful

My hot take: Not having a rage section in ragnarok where kratos goes nuts (because for example he thinks atreus died) is a huge missed opportunity! Like just think about how awesome that would be

"History is written by the victors" What if Tyr did bad stuff in history, but he made sure no one was alive to tell it

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I don't mind Týr not being conflicted and basically being a legendary saintly hero god who everyone loved. I just dont think every character has to be conflicted especially not the side ones. Also im hoping to see you stream something soon can be anything plsplsplsplsplsplspls

Hot take - odin is different from what mimir hyped us about in 2018 he is told to be much more vicious

Hot take: God Of War 1 is the most perfect GoW game. Challenge, platforming, gameplay, enemy variety and story wise. The 1 single thing this game done wrong in my opinion, is the fact that there is no NG+ for the very hard difficulty. Wee have the challenge's of the gods, the character grave yard etc

Ares had a purpose for tricking Kratos into killing his wife and daughter. He wanted to make him stronger by literally cutting off any connections he has to his mortal life. He felt his devotion to his family made him weak. Athena did something similar in GOW: Ghost of Sparta. After Kratos killed his mother and watching Deimos die battling Thanatos, Athena showed up later to make Kratos a god. She felt he was ready once all his earthly ties were severed.

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Lets argue:ares beats thor (Please guys like my comment for zesty's opinion)

Hot take: the spear of destiny is one if the worst secondary weapons in god of war. The only time i used it was in the elevator with skeletons to launch them. (Kept it short)

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Zesty is back. WE ARE SO BACK BABY HOT TAKE: Ares is a god with the best variety of weapons and powers. He can make a flaming sword, he has those spider like blades come from his back and not to mention he can also create a literal pocket dimension. He perfectly embodies all manners of warfare (physical and mental) with his manipulation and battle against Kratos.

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Hot ahh take: Ares is the best god of war (hear me out before you mutilate me) he's the best at his job, instead of starting peace he starts war like a proper god of war,he has no remorse hes (debatably) more brutal than kratos bro just cleared more than a thousand barbarians when he could've easily just told kratos to kill em,he wanted to show that he is him.Besides him being badass asf hes also smart,and a manipulator ...while he may not be the best character as a god of war he is the best god of war (try saying that 3 times lmao,i luv you zesty been watching your content for almost 2 years ❤)

Hot take:gow1 and 2 have better magic attacks than gow cause in gow 3 magic attacks are limited to the weapons you use while in gow 1 and 2 this doesnt happen

Hot Take: Gow 1 Kratos with pandora box is the strongest he has zeus,hades and Poseidon's powers

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Hot take: gow 4 is way better then ragnarok in a alot of ways the combat feels better and the axe feels better and more fun to use the menu looks better and its more fun (besides the 3 billion trolls)

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The return of the king

Prime zesty vibes, nice video bro and obv Kratos is the goat🔥

Extreme please make a video about the 10 most in kratos life such as ares, zeus, pandora faye etc

In Ares's defense, I don't find him boasting to Kratos that he is the one who made him kill his family an idiotic move, but instead, a god being a god. In my headcanon, Ares had every right to taunt Kratos because he is a god, because it's unfathomable to Ares to acknowledge any sort of consequence, because there's never been a mortal who dared or even successfully defied a god and lived to tell the tale. Even though Ares planned everything, he never once considered planning for his defeat, which wasn't a problem of intelligence, but a problem of godly hubris.

dannng is that a TOP 3??? also, love your points about Tyr, he is really too perfect, I hope when we'll get a new God of War game(hopefully Kratos-centered) there will be more told about Tyr

Hot take: It would be much cooler if there were more past enemies from the OG Gow games in the dlc, especially Medusa

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Hot take: god of war 1 was the most accurate in Greek mythology than the others.

tyr said that he know what kratos struggling with and that he understand it which imply that tyr been through struggles and made many mistakes he regrets but the problem is that we don't know anything about it .

I feel like gradually as tier gets more and more powerful Kratos starts to lose more and more control as he needs more power to beat Tyr and this is reflected in the dialogue of tier at the end going from a simple yield to him yelling stop and that he yields.

One thing that I noticed and it's consistent among all of them we saw so far, they have a good number of weapons at their disposal. Kratos speaks for himself. Ares, had an axe, a hammer, that was also a flamethrower, a sword, and his weird appendages thingys on his back. Tyr has a spear and shield, the Aztec club sword, the Egyptian curved swords, and the Katana.

Hot take Ares never plaind it. What if athena did it to stop kratos scene she knew he was the marked warrior from the ghost of sparta...told the furies to take his family there or she took them. The furies were trying to complete the oath. And ares saw kratos morne his loss and tried to motivate him with the thought of even more power. Like kratos told atreus to train after fenrir died, and it backfired. The point is that the gods saw ares chapion, and athena took action to stop kratos. Ares tried to comfort him and failed. Now the plot for ares was to use the marked warrior to bring down the olypus, not kill kratos family.

23:18 best part of the video

Hot take : the dropnier spear has the best weapon idea in all of gow series

He doesn't beat ares bro 💀

funny enough, the main driving force for Ares plans regarding Olympus and all that (corrupting the Furies, making Kratos his weapon, getting the Box, Sieging Athens, etc...) is because Zeus has Athena as the favored child. To the point it dirves Ares up the wall with anger that she gets all the praise and love while he is always second best. His whole stuff with Aphrodite might be genuine or not as she loves power and might, but he's bedding the wife of his bro Hephy, who makes his armor and gear (Ascension multiplayer lore).

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Hot take: In the Let's Argue series I See a lot of hot takes saying the god of War 3 secondary weapon is bad because they are similar to the blades. but in my opinion, what makes God of War 3 secondary weapons good is they similar to blades. because all of them are fast and have good range and the amazing combat grapple and cyclone of chaos type attack and Orion's Harpoon. and Even with their similarity, they are also different in their own way. The Claws of Hades have the best crowd control and the most unique magic attack, the Nemean cestus is a very fast and strong tool, and the Nemesis whip is your fast set-up weapon. also, I see a lot of people say the Blade of Olympos is supposed to be a secondary weapon and not a rage mod but let's be honest. I love Blade of Olympos but if they make him a secondary weapon he will not be as good as the other weapons. I mean he will not have combat grapple and also be slower and have bad crowd control compared to other weapon

hot take: zeus is stronger then odin, what manifests in their weapons with him being able to kill the second strongest god of his pantheon, while thor (second strongest god in norse) needed to be weakend significantly (?) for odin to oneshot him

Týr is basically a Good of War for now, but i think his character will get more interesting in the future, he has the potential for it

Hot Take: I actually like Ironwood. It was a nice slow break from an otherwise very fast moving game, Atreus' gameplay is actually really fun in my opinion, and Angrboda was an interesting companion, in dialogue and combat. Plus, the environment was beautiful, and I really enjoyed the Gryla boss fight. Overall very underrated section imo

Style I've gotta say God Of War 3 the Art Direction is beautiful yet Insanity. The Blades of Exile, Pandora's Box, The Land of Hades, The Blade of Olympus and so much more

"Nothing is more dangerous than a villain acknowledging that he's a villain and still keeping on in the villain route" Man, that's the hardest sentence I've ever heard

The only thing i want more than getting a new gow game is gow 2 remake/perfect remaster(even tho i also like the ones too) It is The best one in the franchise Best story Best art direction and atmosphere Great gameplay (3 is better here) Best kratos Best kratos design Great opening, great ending Very fun puzzles Rage of the titans 🌝 For me it is the only gow game that Every second was enjoyable. Finished it 50+ times

Hot take : kratos in Rage after deimos being killed is near being as powerfull as kratos with Hope ( end of gow 3 )

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Hot Take/Let's Argue: A young Kratos, whose more, boss fight would be cool for Valhalla since this is about Kratos dealing his past.

14:51 Ghost of Sparta flashback? Also if you fail The Brothel QTE, one of the harlots say "This never happened with Ares" implying that he can shrink to "mortal" size.

Welcome Back Zesty and Kratos is still the G.O.A.Ted God Of War

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Hot take gow ragnarok is bloated and has too many ideas both in story and in gameplay What I think happened is they wanted to make a trilogy but changed their mind mid development.

Hot take: gow ascension has the best kratos design with his perfect head and they perfected his red tattoo

Hot take: Gow ascension's elements do not make sense to the story, because the blades were always firey, even when the game starts, they have a white things on it

HOT TAKE: I think gow should step down a little bit in the story department and focus more on gameplay and the scale and make the main story Linear with 1, or 2 dlcs like making crater a dlc and valhalla dlc. I mean whats the point of making a big story plot in gow 2018 if half of the things doesnt even get answered in the sequel. The time and resources which takes to make all the 20 hours cutscenes could be utilised in more main bosses, bigger setpieces and scale. for example avoiding walky talky atreus sections, no boats or sleds, fighting surtr, more norse bosses such as hodr, forseti etc. Imagine only good optional bosses and locations(realms) included in the main story no filler mobs, every encounter feeling neccesary to the story and epic in scale and mechanics. And Instead of the rpg system make it more like valhalla(not random) like only few slots to fill in. Imagine making an 1 or 2 armor sets which are cruical for the plot like god armor on gow2. Edit: and make the dialouge during gameplay less and to the point and increase the volume of soundtrack( Saw the forge scene through your Ranking the realms video).

Zesty, what’s up? You’re all of the sudden making the classic content of the channel? Anyways I’ve got a hot take: GoW 1 is the best game of the series. It has the best soundtrack, combat, atmosphere, sections, story and best Krate (bro is a struggler, literally Guts).

Calling Kratos the personification of power is actually spot on because a “Cratos” exists in Greek mythology. He was the titan god of power and allied with Zeus against his brethren.

Ares = god of War kratos = god of hope týr = god of peace

We're still waiting on that OHKO Fail Compilation Zesty man, Where is it? lol

Guys I just thought of an alternate storyline for the Norse games where at the end of GOW when Atreus is punched by Baldur,he is brutally injured after which Kratos kills Baldur and soon Atreus dies.This would be the cliffhanger for 4 years to follow and then we would've got the next GOW where Kratos completely slaughtered the Norse Pantheon.

Lets argue:Young Kratos beats old kratos in a fight cory said zeus>odin and odin beat kratos and atreus at the same time while young kratos defeated zeus also he said older is stronger BECOUSE of game promotion (Like this comment for free cookies)

Hey @ExtremeGameplays would you ever do a vid if the Norse pantheon interracted with the Greek pantheon?

Ares empowered the barbarian king and army to ensure Kratos was going to lose and call for help so ares could have him

Hot take : we like most of time hercules boss for fight in god of war 3 because it's bgm. Because other boss have not like that i know hades have but not like hercules. Agree or not?

Hot take: Valhalla should've had us fight young kratos instead of the speech of self reflection.

Another Let's Argue video? Zesty sure has been spoiling us lately! Oh, and as for a Hot Take: People often say that Deimos reconciles with Kratos far too quickly in Ghost of Sparta, but I disagree. Yes, his sudden shift in attitude from being enraged at Kratos to forgiving him a few minutes later may come off as a bit abrupt at first, but it does make sense to a certain extent. Think about it, even with Deimos beating him up and telling him that he hates him, Kratos is still willing to save his brother despite that, and after seeing just how much Kratos genuinely wants to save him, Deimos finally lets go of that superficial anger that he let build up for all these years and forgives Kratos. Sure, the execution may not have been perfect and more could have been done with it, but I do believe it was handled decently well and wasn't as rushed as a lot of people make it out to be.

Tyr: Traveled to different realms. has weapons from different mytholgies showing us he's proficient in many worlds of war and combat Kratos: The greatest spartan general who also fought in 2 appocalyptic god battles making him an expert in war Ares: SPIDER LEGS

hot take: The player losing the hand combat tree in ragnarok makes sense becuse the hand combat tree was basicly a side weapons and in every gow game you lose your side weapons in the next game

Hot take: The battering ram in ragnarok couldve been better. There are these red explosive pots in svartalfheim, right? Using battering ram with an enemy to rush against these pots will cause the pots to explode. But kratos will still take damage? Like yeah logically of course kratos would take damage. But like from a game design point, using the enemy to ram into an explosion just feels like it should be something that makes kratos invincible against the explosion itself. I just wanted a sort of reward for coming up with these high brain tactics but instead, it would be more efficient to wale on the enemy normally

Just wait till you meet the god of war in Aztec Mythology Huitzilopochtli😈

IDC for new soytos. I liked GoW2 the most. 3 was awesome but 2 had awesome areas. I will give GoW 3 this though the maze and scorpion fight are awesome. Also c#cking Hephaestus was a god(of war) tier moment.

Definitely gow 2 and then 3

Kratos Wife and Daughter were just normal mortals, why didnt Ares just wait for them to die

‏‪22:22‬‏ they also say the same thing for Odin's fight Like bro he got his son and him ass's clapped by odin how is he holding back?

Ares was a beast in both the game and its novel. Embodying war to the point of seeing future and past conflicts like WW2, Iraq etc. For Tyr being an God of War was a title, as is for any Aesir "god", they have no real domains. Ares was born for it. There is no single Norse God that has matched his feats and depictions of his and fellow Olympians devinity in the Greek games and novels. And the same is now true for Kratos, being some symbolic, norse-style God of War in "Freya's council" lol Let me tell you one thing, Freya's council isnt Olympus. Asgard, the minecraft village wasnt Olympus either. The lack of meta-physical domains and lack of control over creation and those who live in it is undeniable and obvious. Kratos Olympian reign is hard to judge, its unknown how he approached and handled his duties before his Ghost of Sparta breakdown. The Ambrosia comic is the only depiction of that unfortunately.

Hot take: Ragnarok is the weakest in the franchise (excluding betrayal) It attempts to do so much and underperforms in every way. Too many story lines that feel like a jumbled rushed mess like freya; we spend all of 2018 developing the relationship with her and kratos, leaving them as enemies even if kratos doesn't see her as one. Ragnarok follows that up by "repairing" that relationship in a 1-hour mission and a few cutscenses and boom- bffs again. Another example is thor and odin- spending all of 2018 hyping them up as genuinely evil and malicious gods. Ragnarok gives us a depressed alcoholic dad with daughter issues and a dude that feels more like a marvel villain than a god who would be willing to torture Mimir for over a century. Sure he offed Brok but that's really the only thing he did and that was for the "all is lost moment" - it felt forced. Then we get their boss fights which are ridiculously underwhelming. What? 2 back-to-back arena fights? What a joke. Only improved thing was the combat. The dual valkyrye and berserkers or some of the best fights in the norse games. It makes me treat valhalla and Ragnarok as two separate entities. The quality difference in their direction is ridiculous. It takes whay few things Ragnarok did good like kratos and combat and boosts that to the max. It gives a perfect close to kratos' story. Been a fan of the franchise for about a decade. Loved what 2018 did but felt underwhelmed with Ragnarok, then valhalla improved upon Ragnarok greatly. Though Ragnarok by itself- is the weakest entry in the franchise. TL:DR Ragnarok is underwhelming, it takes what 2018 did and half-asses it. Rushing character arcs, under delivers with thor and odin in story and boss fights. Only good thing is combat. Valhalla is great but Ragnarok in itself- is still weak.

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Hot take-The battle of Odin and Thor vs Try. Try has to win, i don't get how he lose, because Try💯>>>>>>all the norse gods

I think tyr is weaker than kratos but Valhalla brings tyr up to kratos level to make sure he is ready ( this what i think) and also in GOW ghost of sparta aries was small when taking demois

If they make a game about Tyr it would technically still be called God of War and it would be correct, right?

Hot take: GoW Ascension has a better combat than GoW1. The blades of chaos are quicker than blades of Athena but the blades of Athena have a much superior special moves

Guys it's obviously Ascension.

Hot take : we need a remake of the old games more then remastered Like resident evil we have remakes between sequels So a remake while working on atreus game And remakes need to be a mix of old and new gameplay Take away magic bar and make magic into a cooldown Makes it more hack and slash by making all weapon attacks into combo not runic Jump button Keep armor system and let each armor change the playstyle like in ragnarok having lunda armor make u play more with poison and barehanded Make the remake semi open by adding side quests with different gods to add more lore into them and make gods have a lot more personality (not saying they didnt have before just no enough) Also add more cutscenes and story elements The best of old and new god of war Also a seperate game about deimos and how he served ares before kratos (ik its just a theory but its the best ever)

You know what, The real God of war, was the friends we made along the way.

Probably not a hot take but A lot of people Keep saying that They didn't really like young kratos as a character, and that he was just a God killing machine and while yes He is a GOD KILLER, this isn't the only thing he should be known for, he didn't just start being an amazing character when god of war 2018 came out, for the most part kratos has always been a great character

it's intresting when we talking about ares plan for tricking kratos to kill his own family, first i was like many people who think ares plan is dumb until i watch tactical beacon video, and it change my preception about ares plan, alot of people who think ares plan is stupid has forget to remember it the first place that ares is a god, like they just forget about that once they talking about how stupid ares is, like we should remember that the god in god of war are kinda treated just like god that we believe in real life, of course we have to priorites god over family, and in this case ares are a god that kratos serve with back in gow 1, to me the moment when kratos kill his own family is similar to ibrahim ( in islam) or abbraham (in christianity and jews) story but the diffrent is ares was never tell kratos to kill his own family and he never switch kratos family with goat or sheep, he just tricking and after that telling kratos about his plan, and then saying that this is for the sake of kratos, so kratos can become a great warrior or more like a his pawn but hi just try to make that sound good, he never value kratos family, he think that his more importent then kratos family because he is kratos god afterall, and also because kratos is a power hungry blood thisrty monster kinda just like him, so he thought it will be fine, but still it kinda weird that he doesn't tell kratos in the first place, like if he so confident, then why he just tell kratos to kill his own family, so i still try to find the correct answer

Hot take I think GOWR is the best game in the franchise it has the best rage mode compared to God of war 3 rage mode and the combos you can do with animation cancels

unless he says out load "I am holding back" he aint holding back.

14:20 emotion all damage

omg this video is a 10/10 masterpiece but i disagree one point its my personal thought though is that tyr is stronger than ares and i dont agree in this point because he shown way stronger feats than tyr and he fight Full power young pandora's box hope kratos and he control kratos feelings and can spawn strong foes like minatours etc. i know tyr spawns centaur generals but they are fake not real because its in valhalla also and tyr fought holding back kratos but its still my opinion not approved + even if its objectively right and told by santa monica at some point i will still say ares is stronger from the feats that are being shown and i like him more because they focused on him tyr didn't show a lot only actual stuff we seen from tyr is the dlc so maybe in the nwxt game he will be shown more which will make me more interested in the new gow game that will come way later

Kratos is the best simply because of the armor from the beginning of 2 💪💪💪💪💪