Lightroom Classic vs Capture One, 2024 Update Battle

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UPDATE: It was point out to me that you can batch AI Mask inside of CP1. I detail this in a new video:
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Welcome to episode 86 of PhotoKitchen, where we pit Lightroom Classic against Capture One with their latest round of updates and feature enhancements.
Has one application done enough to cause you to switch sides? Has one done too little to keep you business? Let's find out!
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@jimavery3211 7 месяцев назад

i switched back to lightroom classic after using capture one for a couple of years because of the ai masking. I miss the cop wireless tether and sessions and brightness slider, and now their ai selection is tempting me back. So thanks for this video. I think I'll just stick with lightroom for awhile since I pay for it anyway with my photoshop subscription. I can do wireless tethering with the sony imaging edge app but it takes some fiddling to get it going.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! I agree with you about the power of AI from Adobe. I think CP1 has caught up a bit, but we need to be able to combine masks to really make CP1 work well.

@StefanHillen 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the video. For me it would've been more useful to use the same images in both applications to see how well the masks working and how the end results differ in kind of sharpness and colors...

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching. I didn't want to get a super deep detail on those features, as I wanted to cover the differences in broad strokes, but I will take the advice and get something like that for you in the future. Hope you tune in.

@rolandrickphotography 7 месяцев назад

Man, I love you for this contribution. You really struck a chord with me. - At about 6:09, oh yes. I'm asking them since years to natively support .afphoto and get the same lame excuses since 7 or so years. No .gif, no .psb (at least at the last version I started to skipped C1 updates that was like so), many more formats missing. The only tool showing all files on the disk is Bridge, even if it does not generate previews for other formats such as .afphoto. At least Bridge is a DAM avoiding loss of other files in the folder and it needs no database (that has pros and cons). I subscribed 🙌

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

I think CP1 has a serious customer service issue. One thing I noticed in talking with them is that their initial response to any critical feedback is not, "oh thank you for pointing that out, that is interesting feedback", but rather, "you are not doing it right". Thank you subscribing!

@rolandrickphotography 7 месяцев назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 YT deletes my reply, I have no clue why. Sent you a message by Instagram

@aliriveraphotography 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for this. Great info, always looking for LR alternatives.

@PhotoKitchen425 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@jkinze 5 месяцев назад

With c1 subject mask both images need to be selected, (have edit all selected, I had to input on the customization quick tab), then click subject, and use the quick keybinds, it will apply to both images. Or you can fully edit one image with background + subject, then just create a preset style. If a group of images are very similar, I've cut down the time editing images by 80%. I do have a folder of my presets of Subject + background commands.

@PhotoKitchen425 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching.

@user-lt4bt3ue4q 7 месяцев назад

Smart Styles in Capture One allows you to batch edit as many people images as you want, correcting light and color balance in all kind of different lighting conditions. And you can, contrary to what you say, have a different mask in every layer.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Thank you, I did a follow up video on how I was wrong about the masking feature, but I am still frustrated by the extra steps in CP1 to do batch editing compared to LRC. Not to mention the lack of masking combination in a single layer.

@sandrostudio 3 месяца назад

Good video; I subscribed to your channel. However, while the AI masking in Lightroom Classic works very well in general and when creating a mask underneath a mask, the same can be achieved in capturing one, too. You need to create a new adjustment layer and do whatever you want by choosing one of the possibilities: linear-gradient, circular gradient, AI, etc. If you need one more re-touching, add another adjustment layer. The previous masks won't be affected, and the effect will add up. (although a good photo shouldn't need any -or almost any - post-editing, as we all know). I prefer to capture one for the workflow, the compact interface, which is easy to navigate, organizing photos, and the metadata editing panel (I don't do any tethering, being just an amateur photographer).

@PhotoKitchen425 3 месяца назад

Thank you for watching!

@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 23 дня назад

"In Capture One 16.3.4, you can copy unchanged Subject Mask and Background Mask Layers to other images, and Capture One will automatically re-calculate what the subject or background is."

@PhotoKitchen425 22 дня назад

Thank you for watching.

@omeletta9801 Месяц назад

Love the intro!

@PhotoKitchen425 Месяц назад

Thank you for watching

@IlyesBouzid 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comparison, agree C1 is still early release and will for sure get more functionalities later on. You can btw sync edit using AI mask on several images by saving it as a style and applying the style to the other images it will re-calculate the AI mask and apply the edits ...

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Yes, I found out about styles and multiple image selection after the fact. I did a follow up video on this on why I jumped to that conclusion, but you are right about the styles, I really missed the mark on that. I will try better moving forward.

@grahamsmith7938 7 месяцев назад

I am maybe misunderstanding the problem, but you can use cmd+left click to select multiple images and then run the subject or background AI on those multiple images at the same time. And, as mentioned already you can combine this with a style to apply editing plus AI subject selection across multiple images.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the information. I will update the video.

@grahamsmith7938 7 месяцев назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 C1 seems to have a never ending list of things to discover 🙂

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Good point @@grahamsmith7938 , but what is odd is that you can globally create a mask, but right after you make the mask, you can make any global adjustments to it. So you have three images selected, then Select Subject, and you get masks, But then you change the exposure, and it only happens to one image.

@grahamsmith7938 7 месяцев назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 However, if you have three images selected and the "edit selected" icon active (so you edit all selected images) you can edit all the selected images with the speed editing keys. Speed edit keys have become one the best reasons to use C1 !

@yaeckerphotography 7 месяцев назад

CapOne needs to lower its price to be more competitive. No geotagging either this is a must. When Adobe added the AI masking features I left CapOne and have not returned. The point color is a welcome addition although not as flexible as CapOne. And I agree all editing features should be available in masking mode.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

You are the first person I have met that requested Geotagging as a feature in CP1, but you are right, they need to add that as well. Thank you for watching.

@johnw65uk 7 месяцев назад

I bought it on Black Friday for half the price. It’s a steal compared to Adobe pricing.

@Wojtekgl 6 месяцев назад

I'm just working with both, evaluating which one I'll stay with. I like the way C1 renders the RAWs (I'm Sony and Fuji user), default processing brings les noisy and more detailed outcome from C1. On the other hand, LR , together with Photoshop makes a good work and BTW good deal, compared to the cost of C1. AI denoising in LR works great...but stil the picture processing I find better in C1. The biggest downside of C1, for me as Mac user, is how slow it works compared to LR. Looks like C1 is not utilising correctly the potential of new Apple hardware, you can see it immediately playing with the sliders. LR is like light speed compared to C1. All in all, I don't know which one to choose for the future :)

@PhotoKitchen425 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching!

@RodrigoAReyes95 3 месяца назад

Tether in Lightroom I think is a problem on Mac overall, I have tested on a M1 Pro 14 inch MacBook Pro and a 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro with both Nikon and Canon and for the most part they won't work, but as soon as I try on a Windows Laptop the cameras connect right away.

@PhotoKitchen425 3 месяца назад

Thank you for watching.

@stan3223 2 месяца назад

The raw rendering is better in C1, especially in skin colors. With C1 I get good flesh tone easily, whereas in LR I go to the cmyk curves and adjust the colors.

@PhotoKitchen425 2 месяца назад

Thank you for watching.

@NickBelt 25 дней назад

Maybe it’s just me but the spot removal tool in Capture One is inferior to Light Room Classic

@PhotoKitchen425 25 дней назад

I think it has been greatly improved to be sure, but I agree, LRC still have the better tools.

@NickBelt 25 дней назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 I gave and will continue to give Capture One a go but LRC + PS is still goat in my opinion. I do like Capture One sharpening and rendering on Nikon NEFs

@PhotoKitchen425 25 дней назад

For me CP1 is all about production, and if you need that level of production, it is totally worth it @@NickBelt . But many people don't need advanced tethering support, or high end export features, so LRC is a better app for many.

@the_indrid_cold 4 месяца назад

I've tried both apps in the past few days, and AI noise removing in Lightroom blows my mind, way better than Capture One in my opinion.

@PhotoKitchen425 4 месяца назад

The AI from Adobe is fantastic to be sure.

@1964ilovebears 7 месяцев назад

Linear profile looks better in C1. Export tool is way better in C1. Levels is an amazing tool LR lacks of. Raw rendition in C1 is better than LR's. Separate modules is great in C1. Integrates awfully with some third party plugins. Styles with masks in a separate layer is great. LR has way better mask options. LR renders quicker than C1. Color rendition difference has been highly reduced between both. The cost of Lr subscription with PS is way cheaper than C1's.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing!

@focusedonpost 3 месяца назад

What do you think about "Photo Grade"? Excellent video btw....

@PhotoKitchen425 3 месяца назад

Thank you for watching.

@iKIMshuffle 7 месяцев назад

So, I’m hoping you or your followers can answer this. Why can’t I tether my camera? I’m using Capture One Pro and it keeps on crashing when I plug my camera in. I was able to tether with MacBook Pro M2 pro but when I downgraded to MacBook Pro M3 pro, my camera cannot even be recognize by CP1

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

What camera make and model? Do you have you PC Remote turned on? Is the version of CP1 the same on both computers?

@iKIMshuffle 7 месяцев назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 what’s the remote? I didn’t know about that. I’m using a Leica SL2-s. I was able to tether before even on my tablet and phone. The new update on the laptop did some freaky stuff now my C1 keeps on crashing when trying to tether.

@iKIMshuffle 7 месяцев назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 but it wasn’t just one camera. I thought I just need to update one but I also tried my b-cam it’s doing the same problem. It’s a Lumix G9

@justusmartin5179 4 месяца назад

I'm shooting a Canon R3 and R5 and I'm so frustrated with the reliability of their tethering in lightroom (sometimes it works, sometimes it works for a while, sometimes not at all, sometimes the work around works and sometimes not even that. It practically requires a designated half-hour before the shoot feeling the pressure hoping that tethering will work and stay working all the way through the shoot). I'm trying to learn the library and sorting system on capture one simply to have a reliable solution for my corporate headshot work. I've wasted SO MUCH time trying to solve tethering on Lightroom. Get your act together Adobe! Ps, thank you for this video.

@PhotoKitchen425 4 месяца назад

Thank you for watching.

@colinbazzano Месяц назад

Hmm, you're saying they don't give you multiple masks on the same layer, but they do give you layers. Sooooooooo....have one mask per each layer? That doesn't seem ridiculous to me, just a design choice.

@PhotoKitchen425 Месяц назад

Thank you for watching!

@chrispeden979 5 месяцев назад

This needs a revisit now that capture one will copy ai masks without having to make a preset

@PhotoKitchen425 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching. I did do a follow up video about that very thing! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-87A4kWG0B0I.html

@gbee8888 7 месяцев назад

Bit of a major goof not knowing about C1 custom styles and AI mask generation.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Indeed, but I just posted a video explaining my goof. Thank you for watching.

@jayymorris5285 10 дней назад

My real question is about presets. Can capture one use lightroom presets? If it does I can finally stop pirating Lightroom once and for all.

@PhotoKitchen425 9 дней назад

To the best of my knowledge, no, CP1 can't use LRC presets.

@jayymorris5285 9 дней назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 After asking around, I found a preset converter from Picture Instruments!

@ZombieRofl 6 месяцев назад

I wish there were more real competitors for LR. LR is just really good at a lot of area's (specially speed), but is in a desperate need of UI updates like the rest of the Adobe software has.

@PhotoKitchen425 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching!

@jerzyledzinski Месяц назад

Comparing with differennt photos... Why?!

@PhotoKitchen425 Месяц назад

Not sure what your question is referring to.

@seyhalearnphotography 2 месяца назад

❤❤❤🎉🎉

@PhotoKitchen425 2 месяца назад

Thank you for watching.

@jonathongooch6259 7 месяцев назад

I used a Sony camera recently and wished lrc accepted arw files

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

I use Lightroom Classic and it does accept .ARW files. Do you have a newer camera or and older version of LRC that needs to be updated?

@Aleksanderespelid 8 месяцев назад

The absolute abysmal file structure Lightroom is working with will forever keep me from Lightroom. I absolutely hate how the catalogs work, and until they make something like C1 session I can never go back to LR. Also how slow LR has always been with creating previews and all that jazz is not good enough. I do however wish C1 would get somehting like the Calibrate tool that LR has, it just does something that I cannot really don in C1 the same way.

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching. I don't might the catalog feature in LRC, but I understand your point about preview build time. You wonder why a company like Adobe can't improve that, while a small company like Photo Mechanic can.

@Aleksanderespelid 7 месяцев назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 I get how people can like the catalogue feature, and having a system in the catalog. But the fact that they dont have a session based feature like C1, without an enourmous amount of hassle, is annoying. At least let us choose

@PhotoKitchen425 7 месяцев назад

I agree @@Aleksanderespelid

@JasonEkonomakos 3 месяца назад

@@Aleksanderespelid I used to be on the same page as you, but I got tired of using Capture One as some features became clunky to use. I did like the sessions, but I went back to Lightroom. The added AI masks really speed up development in Lightroom and I figured out how to use the Lightroom catalog pretty well, it's mostly in knowing how to set up and use keywords. Now when I Import sessions, I rename the files, add keywords, and go through the process of rating the images. The smart collection feature can be used to set up collections, and now it's streamlined for me to update my portfolio collections automatically. The set up is there and it's automatic while I'm doing the actual work instead of having to go back later and reorganize everything. Capture One just didn't seem to work well in certain aspects but maybe once they make updates I'll take a look again

@MikeTaylorPhotoArts 5 месяцев назад

I had to stop the vid at just 3:50. It seems that you want the developers to make LR more complicated than it is. I like it just fine and will continue to use if as it fits my needs just fine. Also, I shoot in studio tethered into LR and have zero issues with it in that regard. I shoot with Nikon bodies with no issues at all. Perhaps your issues with tethering are specific to your camera body. Who knows. I'll just keep clicking away on my Nikon DSLRs happily and contently.

@PhotoKitchen425 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching!

@Pspet 4 месяца назад

Number 1 thing Lightroom should do immediately that's so embarrassing that it doesn't exist, is to let us use the whole functionality when creating a mask. Why don't I have access to all the tools when editing a mask??? Are you even serious?

@PhotoKitchen425 4 месяца назад

I agree totally. But I think these are features are coming. And that is not code, I have no clue, but I can't imagine that Adobe can't include these features in the next release.

@Pspet 4 месяца назад

@@PhotoKitchen425 Maybe. But what makes you so sure? This is something they should /could have done from the first release that contained masks, and yet, so many years down the road and we still have limited tools for masks

@billycrowe4501 4 месяца назад

Adobe’s lack of tethering support is ABYSMAL. NO excuse

@PhotoKitchen425 4 месяца назад

I couldn't agree more.

@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 23 дня назад

HORIBLE EDIT IN CAPTURE ONE PHOTO!!!!! WTF IS THAT?? WHITE BALANCE IS INCORRECT

@PhotoKitchen425 22 дня назад

Thank you for watching.

@neostephens8980 5 месяцев назад

Dude, get over yourself, software, like any other thing is an evolving process. No kuddos to you either for this BS video. This doesn't qualify as "comparison" video, more of a "you don't like LR" video. And that's OK, but don't try to make us think this is a comparison video. I use both of these, in addition to ON1 and they are all pretty fast. As far as tethering, I don't see ANY difference in speed between LR and C1. I guess you must have a crappy machine, but anywho, to each their own opinion.

@PhotoKitchen425 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching.