Lionel Shriver & Rob Henderson: gender and climate obsession will destroy the West | SpectatorTV 

Cant be much worse than here in the UK,.

Have a look at Klavan discussing Rufo's new book on the culture wars Interview with Christopher Rufo: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bZVx1Pya41s.html&feature=share Best wishes to Finland❤

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As Gramsci put it, “In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.”[9]By an army of Marxist intellectuals undertaking (what was later called) “the long march through the institutions of power”;[8] that is, by gradually colonising and ultimately controlling all the key institutions of civil society. From 'Cultural Marxism: fact or fiction'' Eternity Websight

How many transgenders live in your street? It's just a silly media fad

Warning,,,climate change is a more of a political policy ,rather than a environmental problem.

Sure does. The warning isn't even factual. Climate change... long term shifts.... mainly caused by human activities. Nothing to do with nature at all.

citing the United Nations as it source of truth. We need to talk about the sources more often.

No. It is labelled context. "Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns, mainly caused by human activities, especially the burning of fossil fuels." This is necessary because YT is littered with misinformation on the subject. It is interesting that having been mugged by reality, many people who claim to be "skeptics" and formerly attacked the professionalism and integrity of scientists and clamed that ACC was a hoax have now moved to saying there is no point doing anything about it.

Early on Lionel did say: "Even assuming that all the climate activists are correct ..." It seems if your video says "climate" anywhere in it, you get that warning.

global socialism, where the warped minority dictate to the majority how to think.

They rule and you do as you are told obviously.

There is no end game for most of them. They are mentally ill. The end game for the handful of puppeteers is, as ever, more money and power.

Or warm themselves by starting forest fires....

indeed cluster "B" personalities don't do no end games but they do endless mind games. @@superdeluxesmell

Check out the Nordic Bloc countries. You might prefer them. And I am not joking.

That explains Trump.

@@kindnessfirst9670 You mean Trump the guy that didn't bomb any country- unlike his opponents...? If you believe that Jan' 6th was an "Insurrection" or even more obtusely, a "Coup", then you believe absurdities. The cultist ideologues will call Trump a racist minus any proof whatsoever whilst ignoring Biden's provable racism and his son's dodgy dealings with China. A good example of an atrocity would be Hillary Clinton bombing Syria simply to obscure bad news whilst under Obama's rule.

like how females make you believe it is equal to men and make society murder unborn children?

The actual quotation from Voltaire is more succinct: “ If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.”

@@kindnessfirst9670 I'm not a Trump supporter, but as someone who refuses to freak out about someone without true evidence of fact; I always wonder what *specifically* people are referring to when saying "Trump." Granted, the guy is a self aggrandizing boob, but he didn't start wars, didn't cozy up or influence peddle to China (communicating w/ them & the latter are very different things). The economy was not insane and working people weren't treated like a monolith of hill billy rubes. I'll take an obnoxious wolf who's displaying their ridiculousness to my face any day over a manipulatively folksy, smiling plagiarist, warmonger, crime bill writing, compulsive liar wearing sheep's clothing. The people who constantly tell you how much they "care" in folksy tones while doing the direct opposite are the ones to worry about.

TRUMP is only sober guy in the field that works and is more then a stable Genius--he is truly a Historic Patriot

Too true.

That is by design and has always been the case. But mentioning it gets you condemned as promoting "class warfare". Like pointing out that most people who get preferential admission to places like Harvard are white rather than black.

Kudos to YOU Martin!

Yes. Intelligent & refreshing.

And mayhap their parents?

@@widdowshinstv4843 Of course. Also the fact that it takes two working parents to support a family now, so there is less supervision at home once the children are in school.

So why not do something about it? That's the question surely? Ban Tik Tok, for instance, and withstand the complaining because it's the right thing to do for those children.

@@janegardener1662 I can't disagree, as its easier and less costly to have a tv / tablet babysitter. It's a sad comment on the times we live.

@@excession3076 Banning and curtailing social media will only work in one way... Allowing governments to have an ever increasing 'control' of messages sent. I agree about tik tok however.. who it is run by and their reasons for its instigation are insidious to say the least.

Homosexuals are not transgender.

Yep!

Laughing? More like hysterical!!!

The enemies of the West can't believe their good fortune

In the UK wirking class culture is still predominant and they have no time for any of the Critical Theory stuff, mock trans, ignore LGBTQ+++ and mental health is still taboo, they would fight for their country and I'm sure there are still enough normal middle-class youngsters to provide an officer class. The pollsters should get out of the University towns, but then they would probably be ignored anyway.

I'm shocked. You don't really believe that some people are pleased that "patients" are potential "customers" - do you? (ha ha)

Encouraged or merely informed? Surely you don't have a problem with factual information?

​@@richardh8082 No, they're being encouraged. The factual information is that "gender affirming healthcare" is a racket, based on ideology rather than reality. We know this because even the NHS have backed away from it. Why are you so keen for children to destroy their bodies? Sus.

Encouraged

@@richardh8082 Gender ideology is not factual information.

best of western society

She voted Biden and will again, just ask her

She's a very ignorant woman thinking because she rejected what she termed 'stupid fairly tales' proves anything? Virtually EVERY culture in history believed over time that they had seen enough evidence to believe that we are spiritual beings and many of those same cultures believed there was hierarchy in the spiritual ream. To ignore this history and caulk it up to somehow bad logic or critical thinking of ancient people is crazy to me.

Yes, and very rude, too! She obviously cannot state her opinion without sharing her "feelings" about the subject. She has an obvious weakness there, no matter how much she disdains other people proudly proclaiming their weaknesses and victimhood.@@daa5249

Wow. You people are completely insane!😂

A lot of what's being done in terms of systemic villainising of individuals or groups, is in order to cause conflict within a population. A disunited populace splinered into groups warring with each other results in a couple of things, for example: 1.) No power to change anything about tyrannic rule imposed by an outward source, so-to-speak (say a central/globalist government), since everyone's already spent, and also in too small a group to topple anything that's huge in comparison. 2.) Weirdly enough, what arises is *a need* for outward/disassociated arbitors/administrators, since everyone hates each other and believes in different stories about what's real. And it's easy to imagine countless people being happy about this, since this means loads of administrative jobs for them within a gigantic bureaucracy. Which is to say, create a million problems and you might as well also create a million government departments dealing with every single one of them independently and indefinitely, and collecting paychecks. In other words, making people behave like bickering disconnected sh!ts, establishes both a need for a ruling elite, and ensures that such an elite will be beyond substantial danger coming from essentially confused, socially atomized, physically and otherwise sick, mortal m0rons. Plus it gives people an opportunity to 'earn' money by doing essentially nothing productive at all. Long story short, all the vilifying and lying and conflict brewing, is basically our society's Big Bang. A thoroughly corrupt society's, that is. Obviously.

Those few men had the entire future of this then-colony when independence was being sought. The everyday people were too busy farming and just living your average 18th Century lives. The Founders so easily could have formed an entirely different form of nation/government that would never allow those average families to gain anything. They were desiring to form the “great experiment” of enough self-rule and small government as possible where all could have the chance to make their own decisions. They are now called “old, white men”. I’m so embarrassed for the mindless Americans we have (perhaps 50%) who actually believe the politicians of government have sleepless nights over worrying about the populace.

@@6teezkid Interesting points. You have me looking at the professional politicians and thinking 'my God these people have been this corrupt a very long time'. In my mind I like to think of politicians from ages ago as somehow 'doing the right thing for the people'. But maybe I was dead wrong in that assumption. Or maybe the crooked politicians of today are just so blatant about their greed because the times have changed and they know they can & will get away with pretty much anything. I tell you one thing, it's bloody depressing!!!

woke people are judging people that lived centuries ago by current moral standards. Thats insane, nonsensical. If we are gonna go that way, then the whole Old Testament will be forbidden, cause it is a book with plenty of slavery, genocide, murderous raids, patriarchalism, polygamy, homophobia, you name it.

what is the difference between Putin and the western leaders , especially after covid oppression?? what is the difference between Putin and the corrupt bide family who have been imprisoning innocent people , persecuting journalists, prosecuting political opponents?

That's a good joke.

It could get a bit boring there are only theses three that have brains .

I have been saying for a few years that the West is in freefall. No values, selfish/materialistic outlook, weakness, severe intellectual decline, treacherous leaders. The West doesn’t have much longer than 10 years at the top. The countries that have been relentlessly by us are smelling blood in the water and are starting to tell us where to go.

Let’s be real, Africa will never develop to that point

@JunkSock let's be real, Africa has huge potential and is rich in natural resources. Many countries(not all) have a better moral compass at this point. They value family and faith in many parts. They are evolving. Maybe you lack vision. Maybe believing in and encouraging them will help stem the endless flow to the west for a better way of life that is fast disappearing.

@@dellacrean3296daft Disneyland vision. You’re is a fantasy about the West. It stole the land and didn’t know it’s really value or it’s soul

@last "you have to be rich to think like that." A society stealthily spoiled with the attendant entitlement attitude. 🙃

Oooh, that’s a good one! Gonna file that one next to ‘champagne socialists’ 😂

This maybe of interest: Klavan interview with Christopher Rufo: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bZVx1Pya41s.html&feature=share

spot on. Yuri warned of this back in the 80's

And US & UK haven’t been covertly & overtly orchestrating regime changes around the world based on their insatiable greed for oil & resources? That’s so seriously ignorant.

This is absolutely the subversive plan outlined by Yuri, which the left insists is a fraud. As he said: once the indoctrination is complete, even showing them the evidence with their own eyes will not dissuade them.

What if those Christians are teaching kids that they will go to hell?

So what? Being told bullshit isn't going to kill you.@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

@@cinemar Cosplaying as a woman isn't going to kill you either

WTF does that even mean? @@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 - They are not . I am a staunch anti-theist and Conservative human being . Secular societies is the only way out of this equation . Not all cultures are good and respect of evil ones like islam and tribalism cannot be allowed in a secular society . Is christianity better than islam per say ... yes by all metrics observable . The Woke movement is an anti-christian one ... NOT an atheistic or secular one . Being anti-christian does NOT make one an atheist ... It makes one an idiot . Good day Pente

A pity they need to present the Boggyman in Putin. Simplistic of them.

While the early stages of colonization was certainly problematic, the evidence clearly demonstrates that everyone has benefited. New Zealand, as well as Canada, the US and Australia, are models for the world. Bastions of freedom and prosperity. These Leftist movements will destroy the fabric of New Zealand and everything it has accomplished.

Australian government looking to take the same parth with the voice.

The propaganda is backfiring badly if my 9 year old grand child is anything to go by.

As an American who visited New Zealand in 2018 this truly saddens me. I noticed this integration - it appeared to me New Zealanders accepted their history and each other with grace. I struggled to articulate it even in my own mind but the attitudes seemed so different from here, where everything related to race and history is patronizing, condescending and, frankly, dishonest. The Kiwi approach seemed to have worked so it’s discouraging that it’s being tweaked to satisfy some hyper sense of cultural fairness.

I don't really see anything wrong with that.

Logically it makes sense, but I don't buy it. One data point: I am from the Czech Republic, where most people do not believe in god (and it's been like that long time). Most people also do not buy those things about body positivity, patriarchy, pronouns etc. - all the stuff that is commonly associated with "cultural wars". At least for now (knock knock on wood). BTW, in Czech Republic, most people do not use Twitter and most people do not even know what Reddit is... so maybe I would look this way when looking for the cause.

Congratulations you have absolutely mastered the subject

Exactly. They should only defend their own country In an invasion, not fight foreign wars for dirty politicians.

Colleges are to blame. 85% of teachers come out of liberal colleges.

As Gramsci put it, “In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.”[9]By an army of Marxist intellectuals undertaking (what was later called) “the long march through the institutions of power”;[8] that is, by gradually colonising and ultimately controlling all the key institutions of civil society. From 'Cultural Marxism: fact or fiction'' Eternity Websight

Go higher. Who trains the teachers? Define the curriculum?

Education was far superior 50 years ago, when teachers knew their subjects and no 'education' degree required. Now the teachers all have degrees that are useless in anything except woke indoctrination.

Our Govmts are to blame, they have let this happen, enabled it, and turned a blind eye, because they are on board with what their globalist UNELECTED masters want.

😂😂😂 A depressive speaks.

So, has Russia not the right to protect its own borders?

Isn’t Pete Buttigieg a Presbyterian? Do you share his views?

@@zachgates7491 No relationship other than name. Presbyterian Church started splitting apart in the 30s and 40’s as the mainline became liberal and basically began rejecting its primary doctrines. That’s why I include reformed in the title.

@@zachgates7491 No, he’s Episcopal. And take a look at the demise of that church tradition. Completely given to wokism.

She wrote that book?

I so agree.

I have about 100 pages to go. Excellent book!

what is the difference between Putin and the western leaders , especially after covid oppression?? what is the difference between Putin and the corrupt bide family who have been imprisoning innocent people , persecuting journalists, prosecuting political opponents?

Here she sounds insane. She appears to be arguing that kids should serve in the US military.

She's not making a mistake; she's acknowledging a both/and. Oxymoronically, the Woke identitarians leverage their performative victimhood to gain social credits, at which point it becomes a stalking horse for their will to power. However, at the core, they are indeed comprised of feckless, fragile simps herded by their sinister ideological masters.

Are you insane?😂

Putin has a point. But I have another. It is that Putin is either the atheist he was as a Communist, in which case he is an infidel; or he is a disciple of the Tsar-worshipping Patriarch of Moscow, in which case he is a heretic.

...and in worlds with 'daylight savings' introduced, sometimes even thrice. We've been screwed over for generations upon generations, no wonder how far it's gotten. That said, I've yet to hear the guy say something wrong, for real. Without BS translations and/or biased reframings in between. When someone's on point about culture wars and disinformation, you've got to assume their brain's probably alright, compared to the average. Which is to say rather *not* wrong about most things, or at least not as much as you've previously thought, apparently. Don't know much about him, just saying, from what I've heard so far.

He is also right about the war in Ukraine which began in 2014.

He is correct in saying there is a rampant cultural and spiritual decadency in the west, but not correct in saying that he is fighting it - that is just a posture for the plebs. In fact entire russian oligarchy has money in the western banks, properties in west, businesses in the west, extra-marital stuff in the west, children studying at western universities etc. I follow Russia and things are there the same as in west - covid was handled the same, CBDC are being implemented, and they have massive immigration.

@@bobibufi1389 The investment thing changed lately, people are not going to western banks anymore, cause those might close your account at any moment. Anyway, they've started investing into Russia much more, the money is not fleeing as it did back in the day, so this is a huge change. TL;DR Your comment would be correct if we were still living in the past. Those times are gone though. The world's different now and our banks are corrupt. We've basically turned into what the Soviet Union once was. At first I wanted to write that we're in the process of turning into it, but then I've realised that we're obviously already there. How much more censorship could a person possibly need, before they finally get it. It's a done deal.

😂 good joke

That's what we get for letting women be pastors.

Not sure Shriver has any inkling of the ineffable...

"silliness of church teachings" ??

Globalization and liberalism both flow from Christianity. Christianity is inherently globalist, and leads to relativism. We have seen it happen. Christian majority nations are the most globalist, and most likely to have open borders and mass immigration. You don't see Hindu or Buddhist (vedic traditions) having open borders.

Christianity indeed has deep spiritual teachings which have to be recovered, but I'm not sure we should just throw away the Church teachings, more like see them in their proper place, not an easy thing

They were 1,000 times better than politicians today.

Coming from a society that murders babies by the thousands every day and now brainwashes children so the chemically castrate themselves by the time they're 13 or physically mutilate themselves by 15. Our judgment on any society at this point is laughable.

It's very superficial

Shriver's characterization is as stupid a comment as could be within the context of the discussion. Her comment about progressive package is the heir of postmodernism, and the confused thinking of Foucault and other misanthropes of late 20th century cultural miasma.

Agreed! (Man made) religions have given God a bad name.

Maoism been taught in schools 😢😢

what is the difference between Putin and the western leaders , especially after covid oppression?? what is the difference between Putin and the corrupt bide family who have been imprisoning innocent people , persecuting journalists, prosecuting political opponents?

I was shocked to hear Shriver call Christianity "fairy tails and stupid." Absolutely shocked.

​@@curtisloftis6003Shes right. It is both stupid and a bunch of fairytales.

​@@heybigbenderMakes much more sense that the universe came from a matchbox sized object.

classy, you aren't. @@heybigbender

​@@heybigbenderFairy tales are not stupid.

she voted for Biden and will again

@@Clickie13 I thought she lives in England

@@academyofchampions1 she lives in New York...maybe she has a summer house in England?

LOL !!!

I could not agree with you more - as for fairy tales, age 8 etc., it is too bad she has a chip on her shoulder!

He is not a Rabbi

Yes. The opposite of one extreme is never the extremist opposite.

What lunacy of right? Foreign policy is identical with both so what lunacy dies right push? Climate alarmism? Trans agenda? Woke agenda? Uncontrolled illegal immigration/invasion? Dont use big words like fascism just because you get triggered by opinions you don't agree.

Yeah right. Coming from a man who is a complete evil dictator you mean.

Self-destructive apes.

True. Sad, but true.

There are ways to raise good children without physical abuse.

That's easy to do, as there's precarious little science involved. It's all politics and corruption.

Um, no, good people do good things , and bad people do bad things. But Religion can make good people do bad things.