LIVE! Jury Wants To Hang In Karen Read Trial - Judge Won't Let Them? Why Would Read Want That? 

This case has a fear factor for the jurors of restitution. Or worse harassements. Maybe even financial repercussion.

That’s my situation, as well. I can’t believe they even brought this case to trial

Same here! Did they watch the same trial that we did? It seems this community is pro cop and they all drink together know ea other etc I’m pro law enforcement myself but these cops were off the chain and had zero credibility

It's obvious one or more of the jury is working with the Alberts. There needs to be better protection for the juries infact the jurors should be a mirrored glass like a police station so no one in the court room can know their identies... So that our justice system can do a fair trial. It's so easy to identify a jury in the court room if you have seen their faces. The Albert clan research and persuaded the jurors..... This is BS our justice system needs to disguised our jury

Same

The first thing I heard of this trial was about Turtleboy... And after seeing how he'd acted back then, I frankly think he deserves whatever's coming to him. He's just another ***hole who's riling up hate for views, exploiting this cluster**** mess of a situation to make easy ragebait. That isn't justice, that's lynch mobbing.

I think they are above the law because look at what's happening. It's pretty clear cops are above the law. Smh.

Who is turtle boy? I must've missed this?

@@beachgirl4truth672 Nothing screams reasonable doubt louder than blood evidence collected in red solo cups!! 🥤🥤

​@@Hadacattoo2turtle boy was a boy who turned into a turtle and he protects Karen

Mine as well and he is so angry that these cops have lied so blatantly and covered up an actual crime. He said this is why people hate police! It doesn’t matter if it is only a couple, those couple of bad apples rot the barrel and the good ones are seen as too few! Sad state of affairs that the good suffer and the bad get to bring them all down. He asked why was the case allowed to proceed after the sallyport video doctoring…who knows.

Did your neighbors come running out, lol? I had to. Lol

I wish you were on the Jury!!

ACAB!! FTP!!

Oath breaking road pirates!!

Defies common sense.

Totally agree. She deliberately confused them with her crazy convoluted end speech. Shes so for a guilty vote and knows the people involved. She’s a disgrace.

Exactly

That judge has been a disgrace througout the whole trial...

I completely agree with this

AGREE

God that’s awful. I’m from UK and it’s pretty rare to get called, where I live. I have mental health problems and often wonder what I’d do if I was called. I’ve been through enough trauma, but it seems, at least in the U.S, that it takes a lot to get out of it. I hope you’re doing okay now, and that you got help if you needed it ❤

A juror from Ma is a moonbat ! Always wierd people , not the normal citizen .

Same I only discovered this a week ago I'm from Australia but there was enough reasonable doubt for me to give a NG verdict based on the words beyond a reasonable doubt my personal opinion of guilty or not doesn't matter as I believe regardless it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt

I think the moral certainty instruction is a problem. Because that encourages jurors to ignore the evidence and go with their emotions. Like lets say you believe she's innocent, but also think she's kind of a b word. And you sympathize with the family and want them to feel better. Isn't the morally correct thing to do to sacrifice the innocent person to comfort the victims family? It could certainly feel that way to some people. So the moral certainty instruction was pretty bad. Jurors stop arguing the fact and start arguing morality and emotions and who gets hurt by the verdict and who deserves to get hurt by the verdict. Like, if Adolf Hitler somehow survived today and were on trial for stealing a backpack in New York, I'd feel morally certain in convicting him even if he has a rock solid alibi. Because he's Hitler, we know he's guilty of something even if it's not the crime specified and it would be very immoral to let him go free.

I think not everyone has the capability to judge without emotion. Someone's holding up the not guilty verdict simply bc they don't like how Karen Read looks or acts.

Peter, if the taxpayers who are paying this bill for this jury in for this circus wanted to influence the shenanigans ending, how could the taxpayers do it? Who did the taxpayers need to prevail upon to get the judge to move forward and let the jury go?

Absolutely!!

@@jeaninea5029 It’s a District court. It’s not a Town Court.

Well why would you want to live under such corruption. If you know and do nothing then you deserve it.

I think this is why they aren't coming to a not guilty decision. They are afraid of retaliation. If they claim to be unable to make a decision, then they can run from this case but if they came back with NG then they would have to watch their backs in fear of the police and everyone else tied into this web of lies. How can the jury not be scared? Going into that courthouse every day with so many protesting outside and then having the prosecution and their witnesses starring the jury down.. I'm sure they are scared. Who wouldn't be? A hung jury is the only safe way they can get out of this case. So much corruption! I'd be selling my house this weekend if I was on that jury.

And the McAlberts’ influence on that county and community. smh.

So it was also stated that he was hit by a car. She's Guilty.

From Ireland too n totally agree. Watched every min of the trial. Karen is innocent

​@@Resmith18SRstated but completely disproven that he was hit by a car. They couldn't even put KR in the car, the car at the house or the body at the house at that time.😊

@@Resmith18SRdo you mean Trooper Paul testimony that he was struck on the arm and his arm stuck there and got shred up quickly before being thrown 30 feet? That’s statement was clearly “debunked” by several experts.

​@@Resmith18SRwho stated that?

right, but it happens everyday

Not surprised that their may be a hung jury. It takes only one juror to mess it up!

In a perfect world it would be nice however that's not reality.

@@chantalgates9018. Mess it up or follow their impressions after the trial?

Who tf is this jury trying to hang it up. MF u better hope I don't find you

Pretty much every day, multiple times a day something came up that was reasonable doubt- even in the CWs case.

@@theConquerersMama exactly!

The O’Keef family have the right to reserved seating to invite people to hear closing arguments . They invited the Albert family. Turtle boy has already been to jail for witness intimidation and has more charges pending. See the difference?

@@enigma_-_79yeh but when u look into his case it will be thrown out these ppl don’t appear to be afraid of anyone at this point Karen is innocent end of story I am in Scotland no dog in fight looks like a movie plot.

​@@enigma_-_79no that wasn't justification, if there's mean mugging by them, regardless of reserve seating that's silly.

Those folks didn't believe the last three expert witness.

I totally agree!

DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I JUST DID A VIDEO OF THE INSTRUCTION TO JURY SAYING THAT NO WONDER THEY ARE CONFUSED!

The CW own ME said that the injuries “were inconsistent with being struck by a vehicle.” The Manner of Death is UnDetermined. In Texas- the DA can NOT file charges for this Manner of Death- regardless of the evidence!

Where did you get that detail?

Lol, long day? Please, they've been having weeks off between trial days, and they never went for more than 6 hours on those days. Tired and long day, my a**

Was it the 30 ish year old female with glasses? TB picked her as who he thought was the holdout.

You have it backwards. It’s 11-1 for Murder 2. Only one juror wants to convict is a lesser charge. That juror will come around on Monday and she’ll be convicted of Murderer 2. She’ll be sentenced to life in prison in August.

@@prisonersdilemma939 either you don’t understand the definition of reasonable doubt or your trolling.

Oh my God, we so need to follow that! That’s gonna be a S show

And she is shocked that the court did this to her. Wanted to know why he condenses the report that is 16 pages. She thinks it's a game I think

Wow. I wonder how that works. I thought everyone has a right to a lawyer.

I came here to say this! Great minds think alike. If Boone does represent herself, I think she's going to give Brookes a run for his money.

Where can I find that information?

That part

Oh please proctor just spoak his mind and he called it like he saw it

@@KathyCyr-dg7bvmaybe. But why the many “coincidences”? My husband has been an officer of the law, military, municipal, and federal…he has a lot of opinions of those folks with criminal records but has NEVER spoken this way about them even to me. Respectfully, do you believe the fed experts?

@@KathyCyr-dg7bv also, if he was so upset about a fallen officer, why did his supervisor not even know the decedent was a police officer until the afternoon? Of all the bs, that’s the hardest part for me to digest.

​@@KathyCyr-dg7bvyou are seriously delusional like to see how you would feel in KR's shoes . You must think this trial is a soap opera

Amen!

Prosecution didn't even present a case!

A hung jury? Clearly, jurors see the DA's point of view.

This shouldn't have gone because the one is already dealing with a FEDERAL CASE on how he handled this case. So how is she before the judge before HE is. This whole thing is rigged. Part of me thinks the jurors don't wanna just come out because that will show the crowds and chats may have influenced them. Then I think some may be scared foe their lives and then I think they just want more time cause they are going to try and buy off a juror.

@@EyeColorAnalyzerUnikamaybe they see it the prosecutions way but that also means they are ignoring the facts of the case.

Agree they should never have been allowed in the court. Especially the last day !!! Eyeing off the jury, INTIMIDATION IMO !!!

I’m so glad that I’m not the only one who feels this way. I think that they shouldn’t have been allowed to sit there. (Brian Albert has resting intimidation face.)

@@MuzerlinaVPlus the jury heard that even the chief is afraid of BA - he’s that scary. Jackson referred to the Albert family as very powerful! (Children of powerful people often spend their lives sitting on a bench outside a pizza shop)

Not everything is a conspiracy.

@@melindapye7435 I never said the word conspiracy. However, now that you bring that up, if there were ever a case with evidence of conspiracy, this is it.

@@melindapye7435correct not everything is a conspiracy. Just like not every police force is free of corruption. Things happen. And the “guilters” that call everything a conspiracy, are unable to accept that sometimes things are corrupt. On all sides. Can be anywhere. You need to open your eyes. And stop labeling everything as a conspiracy theory. Two experts hired by the fbi said he was not struck by a car (or the injuries weren’t from a car). So then what ?

They should all be investigated by FBI

She made the jury stop deliberations when they asked to go longer!!! It sort of sounds like they were close to making a decision! A weekend to think may stop the person from changing their mind!!

I 💯 agree!!! She is a disgrace along with prosecutors and policemen

​@@MimiDidi121 I found it odd the "judges schedule". Seems she never pulls an 8 hour day...

You’re qualified to judge Judges? What do you know that makes you a judge of Judges? Do you judge for the Supreme Court?

You have way too much faith in the fbi lol, the corruption you see here is not rare at all

Inducted for what?

Karen Read deserves a not guilty. O Keefe deserves his girlfriend being exonerated and the real killers held accountable.

@@t.t6191have u watched?!

@@t.t6191He’s under federal investigation.

How about The O’Keefe family can’t go through this again ???

Exactly!! We also can’t suffer through Lally’s lallygagging all over again!! 😩

@@mirahardy636 don’t care about them. They want her guilty when shes 100% innocent.

@@mirahardy636they’re brainwashed by the McAlberts. Completely blinded by the truth. My heart is with John and I want justice for him but it’s hard to feel for his family when they’re running around with his killers and want an innocent woman jailed. That’s not justice whatsoever. In fact a complete injustice!

​@@mirahardy636so you'd rather they just convict Karen for hitting him when 2 expert witnesses and the ME stated that his injuries were not caused by being hit by a car? How is putting someone in jail who isn't responsible justice for Officer O'Keefe or his family??

Yea Wife!

Haha I counted the money coming in last video and it was $650+ not including new memberships for 40 minutes. Paid for his golfing 😂

Totally agree

Not to mention the money her family has had to pay for her defense.

Agreed. It makes me cringe to think if the CW and police had pinned this on someone who didn’t have access to funds to defend themselves. All the cases that accept shitty deals secondary to trumped up charges and garbage police work. It’s actually frightening to think about

💯

So much money

Pls outline in detail how the evidence was planted Thx.

Didn’t prove anything if the jury can’t decide she’s innocent lol

@@Detroitsavant That is not how it works. Defense didn't have to prove her innocence because she is presumed innocent until the prosecution proves her guilt. They didn't.

@@thefatherrabbitthe comment said the defense proved that the police planted evidence you dunce, if you can’t read don’t comment

Sorry the defense did not prove anything

Let's hope so!

I do agree with this, but people can be unpredictable. Because they can't agree, it makes me think there is one person absolutely convinced she is guilty, probably because they just don't like her.

And because these jurors are all from canton

​@@reneearnett8761They're not all from Canton.

A mcalbert in there.

She acts like a hungry toddler. 😢

She could use a makeover as well. Just sayin'...🤷‍♀️

@@bjones73387she doesn’t care about a make over like Judge Dorow did. She’s much older & been on the bench a lot longer. Time to retire her.

This judge is on the take. It’s obvious who she’s for. It’s in plain sight . DAILY!

She's friends with the McAlberts. If Karen is found not guilty, her friends are going down. They all vacation together at the Hamptons. They call her auntie Bev. She doesn't want her friends being investigated so Karen must be found guilty in her eyes

That's sad and somebody FBI , DOJ , or anybody that can step in and STOP this corruption that's been going on in Canton for over 75 years. 😡

Yup…they were in the courtroom the other day to be intimidating (in my opinion).

@@marshagolzar2667 Ridiculous. It’s a District Court. People from a wide area , not just Canton are called to serve.

Or maybe the Alberts are paying a juror for a guilty verdict??

​@@hopingforanswers7376 Thats what i thought too!!

Exactly 💯, the evidence is clear in this case. Easy NG.

Me either. I would hold out as NG no matter what

I agree, @nancykleinschmidt Especially when the instructions and jury form are so confusing. AJ could have gone over the options on the jury form to explain what it means

Totally agree about defense closing. Its strategy was to create enough confusion for reasonable doubt. This may have backfired with a jury who's so confused that there is a hung jury or guilty on a lesser charge

Not just the closing but the whole defense playbook

I, personally, thought AJ’s closing was one of the best I’ve ever heard. The CW didn’t prove their case AT ALL. There was SO MUCH reasonable doubt that it didn’t need to be said.

@@amelia_rose_333 I agree that Jackson’s closing was the best I had ever seen (as well as Yanetti’s opening) BUT those jury instructions and jury form were confusing as h311 and in other cases I’ve seen lawyers go over those forms to clarify so that jurors know what they are voting for.

I agree 💯 Wth is going on!? It’s gotta be a McAlbert plant.

@@amelia_rose_333I would love to know what the breakdown NG vs G is. If only 1-3 for G then I would be inclined to think the same.

I think the judges instructions caused jury confusion.

To be fair, they spent years being told she was guilty in that state. That can be hard to overcome for stubborn people

@@user-gi7gl7rm3r I think that too but I still would like to see the breakdown of for and against guilty, if it’s a small amount of holdouts for guilty I’m inclined to think the “McAlbert” factor applies.

The world doesn’t work that way.

@@enigma_-_79 unfortunately

After the lawyers present for weeks, they are ‘done’ in less than 4?!

@@NewEngland721 are you talking about the defense or jury deliberations??? If they were listening to this super confusing case that CW put forward not knowing anything beforehand…..which seems so strange to me as I’m in Australia and even I heard about it …before the trial. CW they put on so many crappy experts IMO, Defense only had a 3-4 days but they proved without a doubt in that short time there was no way KR hit him, let alone killed him, than CW with soooooo many witnesses that gave conflicting and very suspicious testimony, let alone the crappy LE investigation to prove her guilty. The defense proved it in no time after all the rambling of CW. That judge “Bev” was a nightmare constantly sighing, she clearly didn’t want to be there. I am dumbfounded how any sane logical person can call her guilty. Someone is feeling threatened or is siding with the cops/Alberts/McCabes holding out saying guilty. A lot of jurors make up their minds by the end of the trial before deliberations….well at least have a very good idea of where they stand on G/NG. I say that after hearing numerous jurors on different trial, some on even more complex cases and much longer cases than this. They came back with a verdict very quickly. I think the instructions probably confused them to start with, but from what we hear one person holding out, probably saying guilty …….mmmm I truly don’t comprehend how anyone can if they listened to this trial. …..

The jury made it clear that they can’t decide if Read is guilty or not. Some think she’s guilty, others don’t. Just like in real life.

I don’t. they should learn that the state is adversarial to the people and need to also learn what reasonable doubt is. Too many people just trust the charge and don’t even take the evidence into consideration and those people should be ashamed of themselves and never be jurors but that’s who the state absolutely wants as jurors. Dumb people.

@@txbow88I really don’t understand how anyone can see and hear what we did and still vote guilty on ANY charge. I think she was so drunk they may have been able to convince her she hit him Until she hired Jackson and he got involved with the Feds

Yeah, right: nothing to do with the fact that you cowardly PoS's voted traitors into power, right? Pr1ck!

Exactly the judge has done this !

I wish the jurors knew the fbi is investigating trooper Proctor

I would know that because they mentioned feds and they got a warrant for Proctor's cell phone.

I am from Massachusetts. If they do not let this jury be hung, then Canoni should pay for any additional cost out of her own salary, which she has earned with diligence, but not with competence. DA needs to be repealed or revoked or whatever. entire process was a complete fraud and a waste of taxpayer money…

Hi 👋 I think the changing of the charges slip, whilst the jury was already in deliberations f'd with their heads

God knows what lies Jen Mc Cabe will be throwing out? Theres no way she will be able to remember all the lies shes said.

You would if you were on trial

I don’t wanna listen to any of them, including every single person in courtroom lol

Or let BEV choose him as foreperson PRIOR to the alternate jurors being dismissed by random draw

There's a cop on the jury??

I agree!

Of course she did. Why do you think she was stalling lawyer after lawyer. She was just pissing time away until no more lawyers and she's on her own.

Maybe her pro se attorney will be nice to her. Or not. 😂 Is it too early to take bets if she mentions her fan club in her opening statement?

She will be even more infuriating than darrell

@@terryarmstrong8598 lol. She's going to have her pro se fired next... should we keep count of how many times she brings up her fans? Similar to LALLY and his "what, if any" question 40,000 times.

​@@RichardZabielski-ql9ss instead of what if anything it will be "it wasn't intentional " 😂

And hopefully, their morals are based on the evidence.

We have the benefit of having it broken down and explained in clear detail. Also, we get to replay and focus on specific points.

They they don’t have to prove motive

The Motive is drinking and driving causing death,

More importantly no evidence has been shown that John was hit by a motor vehicle.

​@@SamStone1964 Who killed him? How did he die then?

@@Ghost-304no because it can’t be accidental the way it’s written. She has to knowingly and intentionally hit him. They have zero proof of that. Actually opposite. They shouldn’t have charged the big charge and went for accidental. But we know the vehicle didn’t have damage of hitting someone and neither did John so I don’t know how how you get to guilty in any way

Best of luck to you!!

Agree, her constant sighing is driving me crazy, she clearly doesn’t want to be there !!!!

Agree

Bev wants to go to her place on Cape Cod

I am so over her!

If I was on the jury, to me it’s not rocket science ….the experts very clearly and unhesitatingly said not possible at all for JO to be hit by ANY car let alone KR …simple explanations by them IMO. If anyone was in doubt that evidence alone was not guilty.

That's an excellent question. I would be very curious to hear an answer to that, too. Genuinely.

I found Trooper Paul very credible personally

@@TequilaMockingBird91 what’s facts/experience did you see that made you feel that way?

Same

Yr ridiculous

No way she gets convicted its more likely 10 vs 2 and the two wont budge.

​@@Physics072 Agreed. Been saying this for days.

​@@Physics072agree.

Not necessarily outright/automatically but it would have to go through the process to get overturned.

This is what I was wondering. They are still investigating and already found he wasn’t hit by a vehicle. So unless the state comes up with another theory I don’t know how these charges and a Verdict could ever stand.

Darrell Brooks 2.0

You’re the first person I saw get this right! Everyone else I saw was saying she’s gone pro se which isn’t confirmed yet. Her right was forfeited due to her own conduct and seeing the case law sited by the judge she was given a LOT more opportunity through 9 attorneys (8 public defenders). She may still get private counsel but I don’t know how she would pay or anyone who would represent her pro bono! It definitely looks like she’ll be representing herself but I’ll wait until that’s been formally set. Yikessss that may be a circus.

DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I JUST DID A VIDEO OF THE INSTRUCTION TO JURY SAYING THAT NO WONDER THEY ARE CONFUSED!

How do people know an ex-cop is on the jury?

Don’t think an ex cop would have made it on the jury in this case

@@sandrah0330they don’t

I know many Police officers/active and retired that do not feel she is guilty

@@lobodons5512 🤣🤣🤣🤣

She's going to have pay again!!!😂😂😂

@@Resmith18SR do you get joy in that….seriously???? Someday it might just happen to you, bet you wouldn’t laugh then

@@shaz8486 Yes.

I think Karen was very mean to John :/ but I don’t think she’s guilty.

@@RationalNon-conformist You don't think backing into him and leaving him to die of hypothermia wasn't mean?

That’s funny. Nightmares. Yikes.

Go watch Aussie Insiders “Hot Mics and stuff” ! It’s the funniest thing I’ve seen in years! She has tons of informative and entertaining videos, but Hot Mics and Stuff is GOLD 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@donnaonstott mine would be not guilty of second degree murder but guilty of vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence.

@@pj3341how do you explain no injuries/bruising below the head ( other than arm

@@pj3341didn’t you listen to what the EXPERTS said how it was IMPOSSIBLE for JO to die from KR Lexus …the defense proved in 3 days without all the crap from CW that KR was innocent. Who or how who knows, except those that were involved because clearly they were, Chloe the dog suddenly gone, the basement floor suddenly replaced, the house NOT ever searched, then the home sold BELOW value …mmmmm I thought that home had been a generational home, I may be wrong. One family or town cops SHOULD NEVER hold that kind of threat over ANYONE !!!!

​@@pj3341there's absolutely no evidence that JOK got hit by any car. Period. You have to vote from the evidence. You'd make a horrible juror lol!!

same and I actually think that there is a good chance dhe caused the death but with that amount of f ups and readonable doubt how could snybody say they are 100# certsin she did it? That is completely impossible

You do know Massachusetts State Police are involved too? Proctor, Bukhenic, Tully, Joseph Paul are all troopers.

So be it….KR should NOT be a scapegoat for the cops corruption!!!

That sounds like a GOOD thing! Injustice MUST be corrected NOT continued as a matter of “policy”!🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Agree. I came across him today while toggling between Law n crime and court tv now I'm a forever fan

@@alliehurx8391I found Peter during the Murdaugh escapades. He offers so much intelligent insight.

You spelled country wrong!!

i just said this same exact thing to my coworker today

What if you are the only one that believes there is reasonable doubt? Should the 11 other jurors opinion of guilty sway the opinion of not guilty?

@@user-re1vn3ce4h I think if you and i were given the same facts and we come up with different opinions, then those facts weren't strong enough either way to convince us both of their meaning, therefore there is doubt in that evidence somewhere. I hope i was able to explain what I mean properly.

​@@melissaschellenger1601 to me that is the definition of reasonable doubt. 😊

@@melissaschellenger1601 I think I know what you mean. If even one juror can't be convinced beyond reasonable doubt then it should be not guilty. I disagree and think that the system in place of hung jury=mistrial is more just. Depending on vote split when hung, the prosecution can decide to retry or not within a certain timeframe. Many times plea deals are made for lesser crimes. Think of the times that trumped up charges are brought on someone because a policeman took something personal. Or perhaps was being racist. It didn't mean that person, if guilty, shouldn't be punished at all. It means that this "trumped up" charge couldn't be agreed on beyond a reasonable doubt and then you can still try again, try for a lesser crime, make a deal, or give up entirely. Sorry that probably makes no sense.