Her crime was that she wanted to be a hero. Maybe Odin being honest with her about being adopted meant she was treated differently. Also, she never mentioned having a sibling and a mom. I guess all the love Odin had went to her and never our Loki's emotional damage.
Fun fact at 18:00 This scene is based around the actual norse mythology of Loki pulling a prank on Sif by cutting off all her hair which snowballed and led to the creation of Thor's hammer Mjolnir.
What you're missing is that this was meant to be watched before Spider-Man: No Way Home. But what the TVA is doing is trying to prevent there from being multiple universes again.
Cassie, remember Thor Ragnarok? Thor was talking to Valkyrie about how he wanted to be Valkyrie growing up while playing with toys. Sylvie as a child was playing with similar toys. Her crime was that, in that moment like Thor, she wanted to be a Valkyrie. In other words, she wasn't going to be the bad guy that brings the Avengers together. She wanted to be a hero and the Time Bureau couldn't allow that.
@@synthetic240 It's not a theory. She literally wanted to be a hero. As Mobius points out- Loki's are supposed to bring pain and terror wherever they go.
Even her being female should be enough. It doesn't actually make sense to have an Alligator Loki or a black Loki either, as they'd lead to timelines where Loki isn't the Loki of the "One True Timeline." It is fun to play with Loki's essential nature though, so I like that they made his variants more extreme in their variation.
Yes the song Loki sings sounds Norwegian for a reason - it basically is. Marvel modeled Asgardian on Norwegian & Tolkien & Jackson used Norse epic poems & rythyms from them to inform the music in the LOTR films. The song itself is the story of Loki's life, written for the occasion.
As a norwegian, I always thought elvish sounded like finnish. Looked it up and was partially correct. Hiddleston attempts to sing in norwegian, but it's very obvious to norwegians that it is very broken. Just like in the start of Captain America, in the church in Tromsø. To non norwegian people, it sounds good, but not to us. Still like that they tried though :)
One of the pet theories floating around is that a female Loki might have grown up to be a Valkyrie, rather than lean into being the God of Mischief and that was her event. We had Thor admitting that he wanted to be a Valkyrie in Ragnarok and being disappointed to find out he couldn’t be as a male. Episode 4 opens with Sylvie playing with a doll of a pegasus, the mount of the Valkyries.
Think of the TVA as directors of a play and Loki as a role. Details can be different as long as the outcome of the timeline is the same. Anybody can play the role as long as they proceed with the proper storyline. That's why Loki can be a physically different different person. They're just fulfilling a role in their timeline. As soon as they deviate from the set story (cause a Nexus event) they get erased.
Still not sure what part of Mobius getting pruned made fans cry the most, the fact that he was pruned at all, or the fact that he’s pruned before he can ride a jet-ski.
I heard you use the phrase "getting the band back together". Have you seen the movie "The Blues Brothers"? That's where the phrase originates. Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi. Great musical comedy.
Seconded - Blues Brothers almost certainly has not been watched - just cultural transmission. Actually I think it might be from an Avengers film too? Certainly the press coverage used the phrase a lot.
The popular theory when this show came out is that Sylvie wanted to be a Valkyrie (just like Thor did), but unlike Thor, Sylvie is a girl so a Loki would eventually become a Valkyrie. The original Mobius may have owned a Jetski, just saying.
So glad you remembered to watch the end credit after Episode 4. Would have been rough waiting for episode 5 not at least knowing what you learn in that quick little scene😊
Everything marvel does in the mcu is so calculated and important at some point that missing just one small post cred scene can throw everything off..And Loki is such an important show to what's happening in phases 4-6 from introducing the TVA ,the multiverse,Kang,ect..especially since we now know 4-6 is called the multiverse saga with it all leading up to avengers kang dynasty and avengers secret wars. Should b a great few years in the mcu..
Yeah Sylvie's story is pretty tragic. Her nexus event was that she was born good. When the TVA showed up, she was playing with her toys and talking about saving Asgard. She probably wanted to become a Valkyrie, a hero. Then they showed up and said "Nope. You're out." She escaped and spent her life on the run, and became obsessed with revenge.
When Loki mentions that he did a bit of both (having other princesses and princes in his life) I think this is a nod to the Loki of real world Norse mythology, who was truly pansexual. That guy would shapeshift and fuck pretty much anything and everything...
Fun fact: The actress playing Sylvie was a brand new mom when this was filmed. So the costume department designed her Loki outfit to allow her to breastfeed while wearing it.
Fun fact. the music composer for this show's OST was the same girl who a few years ago threw some eggs at Simon Cowell during the "Britain's Got Talent" finals. Her name is Natalie Holt
Haha, I never knew that! The score is so good, it's probably my favorite of the past year, film or TV. (In fairness "The Batman" is my other favorite.)
14:26 They never explicitly say this (although evidently they were going to) but some fans figured this much out: The "sacred timeline" is actually like a rope, with each strand a different timeline. Those timelines have differences, but those tiny variations (like Loki being female for example) are okay so long as nothing BIG is changed. But...what is the standard by which anything is judged as too much of a change? What makes a change too BIG to be tolerated? In other words, what is the TVA trying to prevent, specifically? The answer is coming. No spoilers. 15:08 This is when I lost every trace of respect for teh TVA and its operations. They murder children. And they destroy entire timelines, hundreds of thousands of millions of trillions of quadrillions of people. Every. Day. Thanos was better. Thanos was a thousand times better. Thanos was Captain America compared to the TVA. 15:29 This is just a theory. But it makes sense. Little Sylvie was playing at being a Valkyrie, saving Asgard from a dragon. Perhaps this was when she started on a path that would have led to her becoming a hero instead of a villain--hence, no Avengers. No life-changing event for Thor, turning him into a hero. Like I said, a theory.
That was my thought too when I first saw that episode. It's the only thing they really show you so it makes total sense about Sylvie wanting to be a hero changing the timeline.
This is going to be vaguely spoilery, so don't read this comment unless you've watched the whole season. I think that as awful as the TVA is, they really are the lesser evil. Murdering trillions in the way that they do is a better option than what they are preventing. I don't think any medium could do justice to just how bad the alternative really would be. It's just infinite suffering.
@@davidm6329 In an infinite universe, there is always infinite suffering--and infinite joy, bliss, anger, boredom, laughter, and tears. I don't believe for one second that ancient lying sociopath is telling the whole truth, nor that he alone can figure out how to solve the problem.
"The purpose of a Loki is to cause chaos, die, and ultimately inspire others to achieve great things." First he inspired Thor, then the Avengers, and now Mobius and Sylvie.
The answer to why Loki is so attractive is personality, intelligence, and charisma, both of which Tom Hiddleston also possesses in spades (which is certainly a factor in the characters avid fan base). Not every girl likes the male power fantasy physique of Chris Hemsworth-- his whole character design and look, including any shirtless scenes is meant to appeal more to men then women. We may like to look but when it comes down to it the physical attraction is only going to go so far.
I really can’t wait for you to watch Mandalorian and book of boba fett. Book of boba fett takes place after the Mandalorian season 2. Theres a new Star Wars series coming soon called Kenobi which takes place 10 years after Star wars episode 3. A lot of fans have been waiting for it a while. The actor in the series for Darth Vader will be the same actor as Anakin Skywalker from Star Wars episode 2 and 3. But anyways there’s also the clone wars series. It’s a lot of series though. However in barely any episodes of the Mandalorian some characters from Clone Wars appear. Mandalorian is kinda far after the clone wars in the Star Wars timeline. Clone wars btw takes place between Star Wars episode 2 and 3 in the Star Wars franchise timeline. The very end of the clone wars series takes place the same time as episode 3. Just in another side of the galaxy.
I like the way this show works and gives Loki this new face as a hero. Finally I managed to like this character. Loki has a friend in Mobius and a lover in Sylvie and I'm not biased or making up information. I'm saying what the crative team (Tom Huddleston included) are saying. P.S.: "Sylvie IS NOT Loki. Sylvie IS Sylvie", said Tom Huddleston.
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Old Loki is wearing his old-fashioned comic-accurate costume. It's kinda like the Halloween episode from Wandavision where Wanda, Vision, and Quicksilver wear their comic-accurate costumes.
I really enjoy this channel. I always come away from watching with a smile. I've watched a few other similar channels but this has been my favourite for some time now. Thanks for sharing.
I know I really appreciated seeing, if only briefly, not Laufison, not the god of mischief, not the psycho who used 5th avenue (not sure which street, so I'm saying a popular one) as a shooting gallery, but a brother of Thor.
Marvel is good at that, nodding to the original comic book looks of it's characters, the original public appearances costume for Captain America, the Holloween costumes in Wandavision.
My theory based on the way they’ve described how timelines deviate and can but don’t always cascade into nexus events, there are infinite timelines and the TVA prunes them back as best they can making the sacred timeline more of a rope of individually and tightly wound timelines that are somewhat similar. When individual timelines deviate too far, they come in and trim them back. Sylvie was fine until something happened to deviate her timeline too far and they identified her as the cause. She was playing heroes with Valkyrie toys at the time. So my guess is she was starting to follow the path of a hero and that’s why they took her. Of course now she’s been traumatized by a lifetime of being chased and running.
Maybe this non-spoilery explanation will help you understand the concept here a little better. For starters, Into the Spider-Verse made a very old sci-fi error and used the term "dimension" completely wrong. For now just ignore the term dimension. These are timelines or alternate universes. The TVA is trying to keep the timelines all roughly the same. No major deviations to branch off and become wildly different realities. History progresses uniformly across them all. Think of it like a rope made up of a bunch of different threads all going in the same direction. Major deviations are pruned, however, and the person who created the nexus event of the deviation is captured and held for trial. These people are called variants, and their timelines are erased. They have no timeline to go back to. So you can have a lot of minor variation across those acceptable timelines. Loki could be born a female. His lineage could be different. He could have all manner of different appearances. But as long as history proceeds the same across that timeline, it's ignored. It's in accord with the "Sacred Timeline" of events. Also note, I believe you mentioned having seen Multiverse of Madness already? If that's so, chronological you wouldbe watching these in the wrong order. So it might be what's contributing to your confusion a little.
Fun fact: Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) was pregnant during the filming of this season of Loki. They hid it pretty well, but at 21:59 her baby bump is visible in profile with Hunter B15.
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"Undyingly attractive"?? You should chose your words more carefully
Variants are from infinite alternate dimensions, hence potential differences in biology. The TVA is pruning parallel dimensions to limit the infinite existence of each variant to be on one set path. Marvel does an okay job of explaining it, but I think it could have been better. It gets muddy when they use the term multiverse for both type.
Let's say there's a neighborhood. Every house in it is a universe and every room in that house is their own branch of timeline. MCU is saying the neighborhood is multiverse and everything, including the houses and rooms in those houses are part of that. At least that's why I think they use multiverse for both. So basically Sylvie (and Tobey's and Andrew's Spiderman) are from different houses. And Loki from Infinity War and Loki in this show are from same house, just different rooms.
Without spoilers, I'll just say I think it gets easier to follow once you discover the true purpose of the TVA. And then you realize you don't have to apply its logic to any other show or movie.
Yes, this is just like Into the Spider-Verse movie. Think of it just like that. Comics have fun with variations in different timelines/universes, so there's lots of wildly different takes on characters. Just roll with it and have a blast. Don't let it hurt your brain.
What would Cassie variants be like? An ancient old lady Cassie? A little boy Cassie? The world's nicest dragon? A green-skinned she-Hulk Cassie? And all of them, upon meeting our Cassie, saying in unison, "Oh my gosh!" ❤️
Sylvie never had a Morbius in her life, but at least she cares about the little guys unlike episode 1/2012 Loki... Sylvie always had the potential to be good, but the TVA turned her into a villain.
Hi, Loki being a girl wouldn't have made that much of a difference. In the comics Loki is being described a gender-fluid. Sylvie was playing with her toys as if they were heros, she wanted to be a hero (a Valkyrie I guess) but the Sacred Timeline needed a more villanous Loki.
“Kernels”are the things you don’t want in your popcorn, “bed heads” sounds better. Also evokes the fanatic term metal head, which is very opposite of Cassie.
11:25 No it wouldn't be a branch because this is an apocalyptic event. The planet is getting destroyed. Whether the timeline continues forward or it branches, without a planet it wouldn't matter.
That song he sang was Norwegian. I'm from Norway so i could tell Here is the lyrics: But the trees dance and the waterfalls stop When she sings, she sings "come home" But the trees dance and the waterfalls stop When she sings, she sings “come home” When she sings, she sings “come home” But the trees dance and the waterfalls stop When she sings, she sings "come home" But the trees dance and the waterfalls stop When she sings, she sings “come home” When she sings, she sings “come home” When she sings, she sings “come home” When she sings, she sings “come home” In stormy black mountains, I hike alone I cross the glacier In the apple orchard the maiden stands the vein And sings: "when are you coming home?" But the trees dance and the waterfalls stop When she sings, she sings "come home" But the trees dance and the waterfalls stop When she sings, she sings “come home” When she sings, she sings “come home” To Sylvie everybody! Another!
16:21 Possibly more than that. As a girl, Sylvie wanted to be a hero, not a mischievous villain. But that's not what a Loki is "supposed to be", according to the TVA. So they came for her. :/
Owen Wilson's character's name is Mobius, which comes from a weird mathematical shape that sometimes symbolically represents infinite time (it's the shape that Stark uses to solve time travel in Endgame). Morbius is the name of the vampire character from the new movie and comes from the Latin morbus, meaning "sickness". Helluva show, right? Can't wait for the finale reaction!
If you watch the beginning of episode 4 she's playing with the toys as if they were heroes ...she wanted to be a hero and of course you cannot have a hero Loki On the sacred timeline..So she was Going to get pruned and eliminated..That was her nexus event wanting to be a hero ..
That is why reaction videos are so popular, we get to vicariously rewatch shows and movies for the first time, something that is impossible otherwise..... short of getting amnesia!
It's so great to watch someone experience this for the first time. I loved this series and particularly the music, because it's so different from everything else Marvel has done. I really hope that you love the last two episodes as much as I did, even though they'll likely only leave you with many more questions!
Looking forward to these next two "Loki" episode reactions. 😊 Cassie's reaction in this thumbnail was me during this scene. I was like, "there's no way that just happened to Mobius and then Loki". Then I saw the post credit scene, and all was well again. LOL! Really looking forward to the reactions to the last two episodes. Looking forward to the next reaction. 😊
I feel the greatest misstep the show did, was not letting us viewers stew with the pruning. The emotional impact of losing Mobius and our Loki would have been greater if it wasn't practically immediately reversed. The reveal should have been in episode 5 that Loki is still alive. Even with that being said, I really love the show and I love your reactions to it.
I agree they could have done Loki's pruning reveal differently. Without the post credit shot it could have been suggested that Sylvie would become the new Loki! Even with the next episode reveal that our Loki survived, it would have been a nice bit of misdirection.
One of my favorite movies of all time.. and Ashley Judd is in it too.. is A Time to Kill. I strongly suggest this movie. Samuel. L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughy, Sandra Bullock. Keifer Sutherland, Donald Sutherland. Oliver Platt, Kevin Spacey. Ashley Judd. Based on the novel by John Grisham. It's relevant to these times, today.
Fun fact: Old Loki (he of the Comic Book accurate suit) is played by Richard E. Grant. Grant also played Dr. Jack Seward in Bram Stoker's Dracula - Mina and Lucy's Doctor who ran the asylum next door to Carfax Abbey." Something I find a bit odd in this series, Loki has the strength of an Asgardian. While not as strong as Thor - possibly the strongest Asgardian, he is vastly stronger than a human. Yet, the TVA soldiers can fight them in melee combat.
Copy this for your next episode..... 1) In a comic Thanos had a Helicopter and in the end got arrested by the police, 2) Helmet is from a Yellowjacket (AntMan) and in a comic 3) Throg, Frog of Thunder, and wielder of the mighty Frogjolnir. Though you probably already watched them and recorded your episode :)
Kind of new to this channel so not sure what you have seen or not seen from the MCU.All I've found is Black widow,Shang chi,Spiderman NWH,Dr strange mult of mad...But would love to see reactions from Iron man,cap America,thor,avengers ect ect....and the tobi maguire an Andrew Garfield spidermans respectively....but love what you do here..keep on rocking...
I'm not watching this because I have no way of seeing it, and I want to see it without spoilers, which I plan to someday. Jon, this is more to you. I know Cassie makes her own decisions, but I feel you'll put up with the ramblings of an old fart better. I wanted to explain some thoughts on the Patreon polls for Veterans Day. Full Metal Jacket will probably win. Now I've seen it a dozen or so times. It's Kubrick and powerful, but it's really about a descent into Madness, twice. It's more symbolic commentary than a depiction of an actual engagement. If it's a Vietnam movie, We Were Soldiers is about an actual battle. And I think the Enemy Commander's words at the end are richer, deeper, and more poignant than Kubrick's ironic Mickey Mouse Club song. I've already said my vote is for The Great Escape. A different kind of memorial for brave warriors. But it hit me watching a little filler on TCM on director John Ford. A B&W film made during WWII. They Were Expendable, about the real exploits and struggles of a PT Boat squadron in the Philippines during the early days of WWII. Young John Wayne and even a Romance with Donna Reed (It's A Wonderful Life). A True Classic. A True Memorial.
