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I love the fact that Kyle is basically a background character in Sam and Brian’s love story. Like not even the main villain in Sam’s diary entries, just Stacey’s lackey bf. Until he finally had enough.
i was on board with it being sam being the villain until some details weren't connecting and i thought 'wait... maybe stacy is the villain'. did not think of kyle up until the texts lmao
Unreliable narrators directly show the viewer false information. This was just going off the viewer's assumptions but provided no false information, which I enjoyed. I don't really like true unreliable narrators.
It's been a while since a character made my blood boil the way Kyle does. He takes the ability to control his own fate for granted while systematically taking it away from Sam. She had her privacy invaded, her family history weaponized against her, and was tormented with false rumors she had no means to refute. Ultimately Kyle took not only her self-determination, but the chance to even experience the rest of her life at all, just for the sake of his own jealousy. Meanwhile, to the very end, he enjoyed the luxury of choosing if, when, and how his personal secrets were revealed. His own loneliness and fears are understandable, especially regarding his sexuality. However, nothing ever forced him to do what he did, and the fact that he had enough putrid shreds of a conscience to feel bad afterwards doesn't mean much to the girl he left broken and dying at the bottom of a cliff.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Kyle is the kind of person that makes me want to break arms. He took his own problems and projected them outwards to the point of murder.
It’s true that he was an actual shit person and a murderer, but as someone who’s had hallucinations and delusions similar to what’s in the game (not related to a person, I’ve never been a stalker or even had a crush, as I am aromantic), these hallucinations and delusions stop you from doing almost anything, even leaving the house. Because of this, it’s not exactly a luxury to not reveal the secrets, more like being psychologically unable to. But again, I agree that he’s horrible. Manipulating Brian, killing and ruining Sam, and using and being neglectful if his relationship with Stacy.
It reminds me of the school shooting problem in America. Yes, it wouldn't be such a big problem if people's mental health and rights were looked after, if there were real justice in this country, but that doesn't refute the fact that those shooters are still horrible people. Bad people will always be bad, but you can prevent them from doing terrible things by treating them right.
@@nyxcat3621 I'm 90% sure that the hallucinations that take place in the game are due to Kyle's rampant drug addiction. I don't think he had hallucinations at the time of the murder
@@ISTHATAJOJOSREFERENCE I know, but I’m talking about how the commenter was saying it was his decision to keep the murder hidden when his drug induced hallucinations were the things keeping him from telling the truth
Love that one day the human race as a whole decided that the feeling of dread, danger, and fear is pretty rad and started making shit that induces those feelings on purpose, just for fun, like a bunch of psychopaths.
Dear editor: The way you made Sean’s face cam disappear in the dark and reappear with every flash of the camera is absolutely astounding and adds so much immersion for the audience. Thank you and you are talented as hell!!
The fact Sam was still alive while Kyle was rummaging through her bag breaks my heart, she didn’t have to die and certainly not alone. Plus i can’t believe how absolutely terrified Brian must have been even though it wasnt Sam stalking him he was still getting calls in the middle of the night where someone was just listening to his voice.
While I haven’t had experiences like this game, it hit rly close to home with the rly powerful conveying of the whispering and having everyone’s eyes on her (Sam) when she was going through all this. Cause sometimes even nothing as drastic as what happened to her in this game happen to you it can still feel like everyone is judging you even when they probably aren’t
Wow, we get to have so many different assumptions throughout this game. "Sam's straight up just a crazy stalker" "We're Sam being haunted by Brian" "We're Brian being haunted by Sam" "Sam started normal but broke from bullying and obsession" "Brian is in on the bullying" "Sam killed herself" "Brian killed Sam and it's revenge haunting not stalker haunting" "Crazy diary isn't Sam!" "Someone else killed Sam but are we still Brian?" "Crazy diary is Kyle!" "We are also Kyle!" "There is no ghost! Just drugs!" "Brian and Sam were completely innocent in all this and now I just feel sad" So many different ways we thought the story was going. This was brilliantly done.
@n30n Dude you can literally see signs of ADHD on MRI scans in some cases. It's a disability/medical condition, just as much as depression, autism or hearing loss. It's a fact, not an opinion smh
I love how every single element in the game had a larger purpose to the story. From not having a reflection, to the randomly empty closet, hell even a branch - a fucking _branch._ It just goes to show how much effort and thought the dev put into it, as well as how much he values our time as players. Truly brilliant.
Ya. It honestly made me...pity Kyle. I don't think he's...evil per say. Hes not good by ANY means he's diabolical and cruel yes but not evil. Just sad, lonely, and pathetic. And this was in 2006 and the LGBTQ community was not very accepted back then. They were acknowledged and started getting rights but were still outcasts to society. And he probably did have a shitty home life. He's not evil just...broken. and I find that to be worse
@@GameOver-nm2us ya no I agree but not idk it's confusing (to me) he's horrible and cruel and diabolical but I feel like if he just went to therapy before than a lot of this would've maybe not be avoided but it wouldn't have gone down the way it did?
It honestly gave me an incredible breakthrough, i feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders after 2 years. Jack is a blessing to mankind
i def got the vibes something was weird between kyle and brian sam even commented on their dynamic in one of her early diary entries and i was immediately like hmmmmmmmm 🤔
I was about to ask why Sam didn't call him B in her other diary. Jesus christ this game is heartbreaking, but it's excellently made. Genuinely incredible.
Now I'm gonna have to watch the entire 2 hour video to fully understand everything that was happening. 36:56 Like this part seriously changes with context.
4 months late but OHH MY GOD this was actually so amazing. sam mentioning that kyle and brian seemed like more than friends. the diary writer saying they could never be with brian. the closet that doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose. they're all such good hints to kyle being gay!!! its also interesting how the diary switches between using the nickname b and brians full name. maybe it's something like b is kyles idealized version of brian, vs when he writes about who brian actually is and how he actually feels?? i feel bad for every character in this story. sam got framed and discarded, brian was manipulated and probably suffers a lot of guilt, stacy was used, and kyle was terrified of who he really was. the story behind each one of them was SO GOOD RAHHH
And I love how, esp at the start, you're like "ugh obnoxious teenagers in love, i know how *this* story is gonna go" and then *you don't*, it's absolutely beautiful!
I find it so hard to feel bad for both Stacy and Kyle, considering Stacy herself was using others to humiliate them, and Kyle let it bottle up inside of him that he was willing to hurt a human being. Not just hurt but also humiliate her into such a tremendous degree.
I was late to this too I kept seeing it in my recommended and never watched it until now, and now I"m upset I never watched it before the story, the characters, it all was amazing.
It’s so tragic that Sam was there at the hill that night, assuming that Brian thought she was a creep. At least Brian knows the truth about the photos.
Right and the fact that her last diary entry was her pleading that Brian talks to her again, she was probably so happy and excited to clear things up with him and talk to him, just devastating that she died thinking Brian hated her.
@@Ghost-fj8dk his girlfriend/ wife ( I don’t really know sorry ) played this game ages ago on her channel and their shocked how she didn’t talk to him about the ending of the game.
the way this game uses your assumptions and expectations against you is absolutely stunning. at the very beginning it almost seems like another unreal/unity indie horror game with a shallow story and common tropes but sam's diary entries are compelling enough to pull you in. then it hits you with the one two punch of societal assumptions about "crazy/obsessive" teenage girls and the assumption that both diaries are sam's, so when the truth is finally revealed it hits like a goddamn train. and the buildup to the reveal is so well-paced and well-written that once you get to the page in kyle's diary that's like "it's all HER fault" all the pieces start to fall into place and it really gives you that sense of "it all makes sense now" and makes you want to go back and see everything again to see all the foreshadowing for what it is. that level of suspense and payoff and using one tiny piece of information to reveal the entire picture is difficult to pull off in any genre and medium, and I truly don't think I've seen another horror game that does it anywhere near as well as this one, much less while still making it an effective horror game. and that's not even mentioning how real and fully fleshed out the characters are. mad mad props to the creator of this game. it's a masterpiece.
I don’t really get that part. From reviewing the other comments, I believe it has something to do with coming out? Could you help me understand better?
@@evangelinerohman8229 okay, so basically him hiding in the closet was symbolism for how he wasn’t out that he was gay. It’s a common thing to say about gay people who aren’t out yet, that they’re ’in the closet’. So the game was showing him hiding in the closet and not wanting to express who he was if that makes sense! :D
I feel so bad thinking that Sam was a creepy over-obsessed weirdo and then finding out she was actually super normal and could have had such a great life except that this guy just absolutely ruins and then ends her life.
I think that’s what made the twist so surprising. The beginning is laid out so specifically cliche, even sam referencing relating to a teen romance novel. You think it’s just another rejected girl game who goes violent. And then you find out you’re Kyle, he made everyone think that on purpose. And it clicks so instantly but in such a way you’re stunned because even you believed it. I don’t know what this is called, but I guess it’s the opposite of Dramatic Irony. I love it.
I loved the allusion to "Misery" by Stephen King. For those that don't know, the plot centers around an obsessive stalker who kidnaps her favorite author and tortures him into writing.
1:24:45 really cemented who we were playing as for me, because being told to “hide, coward” and then having the only option be the closet is just.. damn. Like I know closets are a pretty common hiding spot in games but.. *man*
It was so cool how throughout Sam’s diary you would have comments like “Kyle was giving me that creepy stare” and then at the end it all just made sense because that was her noticing his overwhelming hate for her but just not realising. And as an audience, we then just pass by that little detail like Sam did until the ending comes and it all makes sense. All the little details click and make the full picture, which is what makes this such an amazingly well-written story.
@@Nabooze as much as its annoying, the comments section is an area where the community can discuss the video. Could a 'SPOILER' tag be put at the top as a warning? Yes. But it is what it is. Sometimes people get excited to share thoughts and forget to do this and that's ok
This game is excellent because it makes you empathize for everyone, even the “bad” characters. They are so deep, and 3 dimensional. So many layers to each of them. And the raw emotions each character shows in each part of the story is so realistic. I can literally feel each of their feelings when you’re reading their notes/texts. Loved it. 10/10. This game brought me to tears
Exactlyy! You can tell it's so good because you get all these different perspectives, even at one point of the game you're thanking Stacy, the full on enemy of Sam, for telling Brian the secret!
1:13 "I've never cared for keeping a diary. But now seems to be a good time to *start* keeping one." 6:45 "I haven't kept a diary since kindergarten, but this seems like a good time to *restart* ." From the very beginning, it was hinted at us that the two entries were from two different people. I just love it when games put in these obvious but easily overlooked details to make us give out an "Ahhh" when we really think about it afterward.
ooh and when kyle's diary states from the beginning that brian moved 3 years ago! i was so confused when we found out sam died at 17 after being "a transfer student in 11th grade" so she really couldn't have written anything three years after loll so good bc even with that i didnt know it was kyle!
It's also worth looking at the writing styles of the two diaries. Sam is a major bookworm and writes in full paragraphs. She doesn't use a lot of flowery language or dramatic declarations. She consistently fills the entire page each time she writes. Kyle is much more into poetry and his diary reflects that. Sentences are short and use a lot of dramatic symbolism (the meaning of smiles, Brian being a "closed, painted door," ect.). Kyle rarely fills a page with words, but is very expressive in his meaning with what he does say. It can be seen very early on that these are two different voices speaking, even if the font they use is the same. I can easily see how we might miss it, however, if we aren't looking for that. This is especially true in places where poetry is considered to be a 'feminine' hobby, as the author's gender would be more likely assumed to be female.
Came here for a fun scary time with our boy, and I left it with a full heart and tears. Love the mental check-in at the end. "Don't live in your lonliness." Fucking love this community.
The realization of it being two separate journals hit me harder than anything has in a long time. I wanted to cry so much- I don't wanna spoil it too much for anyone reading the comments during the video but my God
Those who don’t know: ‘Misery’ is a book about an author who finished a book series and gets into an accident in the middle of nowhere. The one who finds him is a nurse who takes him to her home... But she hated how his series ended, traps the author through her own medical knowledge, and forces him to write a continuation just for her using an old broken typewriter. In other words, the nurse is a crazed stalker fan keeping the author captive in order to keep writing. It’s what Stephen King described as his worst nightmare and it fits for what this game is about!
Poor Sam, she really didn't deserve such a fate and horrible bullying. She just wanted a happy life. I feel a bit bad for Kyle because he didn't know what do with his feelings for Brian, as someone's who gay I had trouble realizing I liked women. But it's no excuse for what he did, he ruined Sam's life and killed her.
I feel no sympathy for Brian. He did all of this to himself. He never took the price yet somehow got pissed when someone else took it. He killed a girl for no good reason and then spent 3 years making himself beleive he was the victim.
i relate to the pedphile thing in a way. my stepdad was a pedophile and he's been grooming me from 14-18 years old... thankfully i haven't been suffering fro the big R but it got dangerously close and unlike most my mom only blamed me for it and married him. i lived at my aunts for 2 years almost and now i'm sadly back with my abusive father at his house. jack you're kindness and warmth is one of the few things keeping me alive. thank you for being at pax an extra day in 2018 and being so nice to me and my little sister, she told you about her mother and she jokes about you squeezing her like a constrictor to this day. thank you so much, i'm now 20 years old with a job a boyfriend and my own cat. working on an apartment though. and sadly my boyfriends long distance but we made it over a year and a half!! edit: i'm happy to tell you all that i'm living in my own apartment working on getting it ready for my cat, i've been with my first boyfriend for 4 years, we are poly now and i have a wonderful second boyfriend who loves me to death and can't get enough of being with me. (we're all obsessed with eachother like no joke) the poly has lasted almost 2 months so fingers crossed. i've been standig up against my fathers bullshit since moving out, not allowing him to belittle me even if it means he tries to take the only thing he has left to control, for now, my car. but that won't be under his control for long. as inconvenient as it is my stepmom who isn't so amazing herself is tring to get me on my own insurance and the car under my name. 1: so i can be an adult 2: he cant take what he doesn't own. all he can do is say "i'm not helping you anymore" once that happens which, oh no, whatever will i do, i'll just go to the car shop he worked at for help and i know they'll try to help me best they can with the money i got cuz i'm my fathers child. my sister still lives there with our father but she's mostly away at college and i've offered for her to stay with me whenever she likes when she's home so she's at least garunteed to not be treated like shit. i'll keep her safe guys don't worry. i love that girl more than anything.
It's telling how many of us assumed 'okay here we go, crazy girl in unrequited love' at the beginning, because we're so used to that trope that it doesn't even cross our mind that it could be a guy's diary. Just like how his love for Brian is 'unthinkable' to many people (at least that's how he perceives it). It's even more heartbreaking reading the diary entries second time, knowing who is writing them and why, they have a whole different tone.
Pretty sure Sam is a woman since at 49:32 it describes Sam as a girl of 17 years old found dead at Colton hill but if I’m confused or something just let me know
@@Jamjamsart Oh interesting, I didn't consider that at all! It was only when too many things didn't add up that I began to suspect, only minutes before Jack got it honestly. Then it all started to make way more sense. I wonder if they used the name Sam for that particular reason, so you can read it different ways and it keeps you guessing.
Oh my God I love how the lines saying "If I tell B how I feel it would ruin his life" It made no sense at the beginning since I just assumed she thought she wasn't worth it but it makes a lot more sense that people would judge Brian if he had a boyfriend
You saying this just made me realize that as well! All the “it would ruin his reputation talk” is so well done, because of how in Sam’s Diary she refers to herself as a city girl outcast. This game is an absolute masterpiece
It seems the time of this takes place in the early 2000s. Pretty sure it was still highly judged then. Only when mass publicity came into play due to the emergence of all forms of social media did the criticism die down substantially because people realized "Eh why should I care about this stranger's life?" while also getting hooked up on another one's life because that's just how it is. In other words, this would never have happened if it was in the present. Victims of circumstance.
@@caseygunter6813 I get what you're saying but I feel like it doesn't really matter what era you live in If a homosexual admits they have a crush on you and you are straight that's going to hurt no matter what and (especially in a school setting) it's going to make people laugh and tease you
@@caseygunter6813 While yeah, some of that is true, unfortunately a lot of people still care about if a man likes another man or if a woman likes another woman. Even worse, obsessive and creepily so when they're young and "following a trend". I think it'll still be a long time before people understand that differences doesn't always equal bad, in fact it almost never does. But yeah, amazing story.
@@Vesperad0 The obsession is what occurs when someone lets their emotional attachment get condensed due to either lack of confidence or some other reason. It becomes creepy, but for the most part the creep doesn't even realize it. The ones that do realize it, however, are the worst. Then we have the ones like Sam who think they're creeps when in actuality they're self conscious.
This felt like a novel that I couldn’t look away. It unfolded in front of me. I love that it was unpredictable too. I did not see that coming. I expected an over obsessed girl confused about her emotions who unalived herself. However, being in the queer community, it’s tough man. I had teachers and principles pray the gay away as I was thrown into a religious (cult) school. I felt like an abomination. I empathize with Kyle but also, Sam lost her life too early. Man, emotions go away! Legit I am going to cry if I continue to think about this. So good.
from a female's perspective, this is doubly terrifying because of how everyone in her school immediately believed that she was a creep and how easily kyle was able to get away with her murder. like stacey Told brian about what kyle did, and brian never went to the cops about it after sam's death??? my girl deserved so much better
I think nobody but Kyle knew that he had killed Sam. The note stating Stacy told Brian what Kyle had done seemed to relate more to the bullying and rumors, since Stacy helped Kyle frame her in all of it in his attempts to drive a wedge between Brian and Sam. It's why Kyle went on to just 'take care of things himself'. Stacy was no longer part of the equation at that point, and so couldn't have told Brian that Kyle killed Sam. The police mistaking it all for a suicide certainly didn't help anyone actually finding out either.
Also, keep in mind that if the police thought it was a suicide, Brian knowing what Kyle put her through would have led him to believe she killed herself from the bullying too. Kyle burned the evidence, after all. That said, I would have expected Brian to report the bullying, to confront Kyle, but it's a story, and Brian isn't a real person. Maybe you could logically say that Brian felt scared that by confronting Kyle, it would have left him trapped in Rosen Peek, that it would have ruined his chances to get out. I don't know. Sam deserved so much better though.
i haven’t read any comments about it so i just wanna point out the added detail of Stacy assuming Kyle was into *Sam* and not Brian (when she texted Kyle that she told Brian everything). It sheds a light on Stacy’s insecurities about not being enough for Kyle, and assumed he liked some other girl because of how distant in their own relationship (due to his obsession). Super subtle way to build more depth to every character!!
And it helps to notice that in the town the idea of an homosexual isn't even considered, maybe that's another point to add to why Kyle has such a huge internalized homophobia.
@@Multi.Fandom. in the end his fears were real, which is sad because it drove him over the edge. Brian cared for him just as a friend, because he was heterosexual.
I actually appreciate Jack waiting to play this game because it feels like he's matured a lot more and has more meaningful things to say than he did when he was younger
you can tell this game really stuck with Sean and really affected him and got into his head, which i love when games can do that. like really reach us and make us feel whatever. incredible game. when Sean started getting teary, i got teary. just wow. was not expecting that ending!
The saddest part is that stories like these really do happen, souls tortured by themselves going on to torture others. If only Brian listened to Sam, if only Kyle could love himself
Loving yourself is the hard part, especially for those of us who started questioning our orientation in the '90s -- there was a _lot_ of pressure to pretend to be straight, and it _hurts_ to have to do that for years.
I love how the "finish what you started" with the finishing the hearts related to Kyle drawing those hearts around the school to frame Sam I love how sneakily they foreshadow things
after starting college, i realize just how lonely i was and how i still am. i turned to watching content creators because of how real they seemed and how unlonely i felt watching. i greatly appreciate the outlet here. i genuinely get teary-eyed seeing these heart-to-hearts in videos because i never got these from anyone - family or friends.
I love how supportive Sean is about the LGBTQ community and other people in general, there arnt a lot of people who are that supportive over all people from all groups
Dude the premise for this game is terrifying. It starts off so innocent with the diary, but soon develops into just how obsessed these people are. The story builds up perfectly upon itself to fill in the gaps and tell you what's going on without you fully realizing it.
Sean’s whole speech at the end shows that he’s definitely one of the good ones. He’s one of the few influencers that seems completely genuine and never fake. Someone who doesn’t make you feel small and that the simple viewer can actually connect with. Keep being you, Sean!
@@doccalis3150 jack literally raided my stream last Christmas :) I truly base my entire belief system on how he fostered his community. Everyone is welcome here and with mine. Nothing but love 😀
I don’t know if the creator meant to do this but did anyone else notice the different handwritings in the letter diary vs the diary book? It’s especially noticeable if you look at the way the “a” is written. And when you find out Sam’s diary is being stolen and then find out how stacy and kyle had something to do with it, the diary handwriting changed too!!!! The a’s changed into the way Sam writes them and I feel like that’s because Kyle was so jealous and subconsciously wanted to be like her so he started to write like her too. And then at the ending when Kyle writes he confessed to clear his mind and conscious, he gets his own handwriting back.
yeah, the different handwriting (aside from just the writing mannerisms) tipped me off pretty early that it wasn't the same person writing the main diary and the loose diary! tbh it made me feel kinda bad how much people tended to assume that both were Sam for a good chunk of the game too as a result. like no... be nice to Sam... she didn't do anything wrong... :( personally, the "m"s stood out the most to me, since Kyle's has that longer line to the side while Sam's are just plain curves! though yeah, when the book diary started matching Sam's handwriting while also referring to her as ruining everything it was like. whoa!
Also, in some of the loose "journal" entries there's a lot that don't say "Love, Sam" at the end. I think that's Kyle creating fake journal pages so Brian think's Sam is crazy. Like the one in the bathroom where "Sam" relates to a crazy girl who k!lls a bunch of people, it doesn't say "Love, Sam" at the end. I think Kyle wrote that.
Definitely intentional, even Stacy's handwriting is different from Sam and Kyle. Her "n" is written with the line and a curve instead of the arch of Sam's and arch with a line of Kyle's.
This game terrifies me, because of the scares and simply because of what happened to Sam and what Kyle did. Even so, it’s still an amazing game, and it’s so much deeper than people originally think.
"I finally got the closure I deserve" Ha. Even right at the end, after all he has learnt, he's still a selfish, self-centered arse. What about everyone else's closure? Sam's family? Not a single thought for them. Not even an apology towards Sam. I think that's part of the writing, the type of person he is. I watched John Wolfe play this years ago, and he was impressed by it - really, really good game. Heartbreaking and terrifying.
Yeah, Kyle is an absolute prick. Sam's mother has to live with the torment of wondering whether her daughter was _murdered_ , or whether she could have said something to stop her killing herself. And Kyle's just like "damn yo should I stop being agoraphobic or not"
Considering that Kyle ended up confessing to the police in the end, everybody must now know the reason behind Sam's death, and although it doesn't bring closure to everyone else, it certainly broke the barrier that would have prevented it from ever coming to them.
lol. and John doesnt hand out W's for shit too. hahahaha. He makes you EARN it. You know his fun little gag "rEd MeAnS dAnGer YAlL"??? First time i EVER seen a "red jumpscare" got him was this game you play as a guy witch helping out a police department forsee crime activity. If JOHN gets got by a red jumpscare, YOUR GAME IS GOOD.
Yea! That blew my mind too. He was a narcissist. I'm not saying anything against people who struggle with their sexual identity. Kyle, as a character, really didn't learn anything.
I love Stacy’s character. She’s put in as this stereotypical jocks girlfriend character, but you can see how she let herself be controlled by Kyle just because she felt like she needed to be in the relationship to have an identity. Then she’s eventually able to break free of that mindset when Kyle goes too far, but her ability to break away from that inadvertently led Kyle to kill Sam. Although a minor character in the story, she plays such a massive role and written very well where she doesn’t seem to be a catalyst.
She still is a terrible person tho. She roofied Sam, broke into her place, and read her diary. She only stopped when it was no longer just torturing Sam. She's fantastically written, but she's not even sympathetic like Kyle (arguably) is I dont mean any of this as an argument against what youre saying btw, im just giving my thoughts on this
That was legit such a great narrative and the game deserves more exposure, Sean playing it helps and I was so expecting right after the "good bye B" to see a "and I'm sorry Sam, I'm truely sorry, I'll soon make it up to you just wait, I'll get my punishment"
When Seán goes on a tangent, explaining how he overthinks everything and how it affects his attention span, only to realize that he misread the question; Priceless 22:52
i love the mini pep talks you do at the end of emotional games, they really helped me when i watched them as an emotionally unstable middle schooler and didnt know if i wanted to be alive. im glad you were here on youtube to tell me and tons of other people that life is worth living, and still do it now :)
For 3 years I was utterly alone and I felt as tho I didn’t have anyone. But after three years I can finally say I have friends, I still don’t talk much and I’m not that social but finally after years I can say things aren’t hopeless. Thanks Sean for keeping company in a while
Haha wow I didn't even think of that. Makes me want to rewatch the video with the knowledge of everything being from Kyle's POV to see how the tone of the diary entries changes.
"Don't live in your loneliness. Don't allow yourself to be completely consumed by being alone and think that that's the only thing your life is going to be. Because it's not. There are people who will listen." I didn't expect myself to suddenly start crying at this. Thank you, Sean.
I'm a Native American bisexual trans woman, and to be clear, there is nothing that justifies Kyle's actions, but his feelings of anger and frustration hit really close to home. I was in love with my best friend from 7th grade to 9th grade, and by the time I had accepted my sensuality he had unfortunately taken his own life, so I was never able to share those feelings with him. That feeling of hating who I am, and wondering "Why can't I just be a normal person" lead to me taking up drinking at a young age and falling into a deep cycle of hurting myself physically and mentally with my actions, then drinking away the pain which caused more damage to my body. It's been a hard cycle to break out of, I start and stop drinking a lot, though I'll be 5 months sober on Oct 10th. I've learned to accept who I am, and while it has cost me friends and family, I'm proud to recognize who I am and be who I am today. I've made mistakes, I've hurt people (thank God nothing too serious like physical harm, just things like bullying), and I've had to make peace with all that so I can get better. Kyle's cycle of self hate hits too close to home, and while that doesn't justify his harassment of others or the murder he committed, I understand that cycle of self hate, and I understand the feeling of wanting to take it out on others.
Yea, hate can make you do a lot of scary and shitty things. I'm glad you were finally able to accept yourself for who you are, i know how difficult that can be. I feel the constantly questioning "why can't I just be normal" thing too, as a person who's also bi and has depression, I constaatly find myself questioning why can't I just be a normal person. But that's also the beauty of humans, no one is ever normal! Anyway, hoping you're still sober and doing well after all these months. Bisexual women represent (woo)!
I love how the closet was openable, but empty the entire time because it was meant to be a symbol of the space Kyle was living in (the closet). So so so clever. You were waiting the entire time to find something in there, going inside sometimes, but nothing was ever in there besides you (Kyle).
I love how I went from “Oh, it’s Sam, a crazy girl with a crush” to “Oh, it’s Brian, being stalked” to “Oh? Is it Stacy? Does she somehow like Brian? Is that why she thinks it’s wrong? Because she’s with Kyle?” to “ Gosh, Kyle? Now I get why Stacy said she’d stop doing thing for you- Doesn’t help that you’re a psycho narcissist with a ton of self-hatred, jealousy and spite” I love the mystery of who the diary belonged to, it made it so awesome- And now I’m gonna watch one of Sean’s meme time videos so I don’t get paranoid and stay up all night Edit: A door is open that I swear I closed. I swear on Sam’s diary I closed that door.
@@DOTMDeath No. At the end Stacy told Brian everything that Kyle did. So Brian knew. It was what made Kyle went nuts and decided to kill Sam, because his secret was spoiled by Stacy to Brian and Brian stopped talking to him
I know right? It's such great storytelling. I NEED more horror games that can both tell a well-written touching story and can also be terrifying. I love this game so much and it especially hits home as a queer person myself.
@@epic5895 Yes, I’m sure most of us can find Kyle’s situation a tad relatable. Maybe not the crazy, pushing Sam off a cliff bit, but the not being able to be true to yourself and maybe even the intense jealousy of the person who can freely be with that one person for you. I wish he had someone who he could really talk to.
Editing in this was really subtle and slick. Really loved the seamless transition to putting Jack behind the text at the end, and showing and hiding his video feed with the camera flashes in the bathroom. Amazing game too. This was fantastic.
Holy christ. I am balling. Incredibly impactful game throughout, but what gets me the most is the last bit of the video. Thank you. Just thank you. Life has been fucking me recently. I've got depression and anxiety and now it's entirely possible I'm autistic. It's just hard, and it means the world that someone would say something like that. Give me the freedom to just speak without concern of saying something wrong and bullying myself over it hours if not days later. Excellent work. Phenomenal work. I've been rewatching some of your old series recently to relive my earlier years, my childhood even. I've watched your videos since turbo dismount and goat sim. You gave me the best laughs every time. I hope anyone who reads this has a great rest of their day/a good night. No matter who you are, I don't care what you've done. You deserve it
I feel so bad for Sam, this is messed up and just heartbreaking. Can you imagine being in her shoes? How that would feel? god, Kyle is so messed up. This game made me feel so many emotions, anger, sadness, heartbreak. It is so well put together, I wish we could see this in like a movie format
@Maxine Hailey maybe don’t read the comments mid-way through- this is what people do after they watch a RU-vid video. They leave comments about how they feel about what they watched-
I know right, the only thing I know close to this is Carrie in how the victim was basically killed because of someone else being jealous and the person they almost frame was the one they both loved, only in Carrie she lived to get revenge and it was soooo good to see happen
One thing I love most about games like these are the lessons and advice that can be gained from them. Especially from Jack, when he takes time to talk about how the story impacted him, and relate it to the real world and to people who might be struggling. It warms my heart, and I wish that there were more people in the world like Jack. His comforting words usually bring tears to my eyes, and this time it definitely did, throughout this whole video.
Everyone’s story here is so incredibly heartbreaking…. Brian being manipulated and stalked by someone he trusted and having to move on from that kind of trauma, Sam being an outcast from the very beginning and then being killed for the one good thing to happen to her, Kyle doing horrible monstrous things because of his mental problems and internationalized homophobia…. What really makes this a tragedy is that in an ideal world where Kyle could have gotten medical help and also been accepted as who he was this whole thing probably could have been avoided…. God. Incredible storytelling, one of the best games I’ve ever seen
I had watched Evelyn's playthrough of this game before so obviously I already knew the story going into this video. The experience was in no way decreased by that fact though, the writing is impeccable and the horror sequences were still super terrifying. What an amazing game with interesting and complex characters. I'd love to see more from the developer.
this game is so well made and its crazy. there was that huge twist and it makes you feel emotional connections to the charcters. and i havent seen a game this good in a long time and this was so emotional for me and amazing
the plot twist of making you think it’s sam’s diary the whole time but finding out that it’s kyle’s, this “side character” who was mentioned the least, only further shows how kyle’s struggle was so hidden and how alone and insignificant he must’ve felt on top of the guilt of his sexuality and his jealousy that consumed him all because he felt he couldn’t be himself and accept his feelings he had for brian, and was so repressed to the point that he can’t even say his name is his diary and can only refer to him as “B”, whereas sam fully refers to him as brian in all her diary entries.
i said this earlier, but depends on the creator i found, some cottoned on that it could be kyle earlier than the reveal and those some were LGBT, so i think it shows how some people would think 'oh they are just friends' but LGBT people are able to also think 'perhaps this is more than friendship kyle is feeling', its a very unique game in that aspect and love it. because even sean here went through a checklist almost of who it could be but forgot kyle as a candidate too in the story. Very unique and good for people to remember that this kind've thinking could have been happening from someone you would never have thought of in your school being LGBT but being so far back in the closet. A fair few fellow LGBT friends from my school said they had GF's in other schools, only for them to come out after school was finished and find out they were going out with another person in your year and alot of people being totally surprised.
Yea and when you remember all the things Sam wrote about Kyle - how he kept staring at her and would always get Brian to skip school with him. I suspected for a bit that Stacy was writing the diary when Jack found the article on Sam's death. Her name would've fit with "SB" and it was mentioned Kyle kept looking at Sam. Turned out to be much sadder
@@hate6crew6death6roll yes and as a queer person myself i definitely feel like it shows the impact that homophobia and stigmatisation of lgbt people can have on those in the lgbt community and create feelings of internalised homophobia which can be so destructive, even despite not explicitly mentioning it in the game. it’s so well done
the way this game sets you up with the classic home invasion jumpscare-sam is the creepy stalker expectation and then leaves you with this story that really leaves you needing to take that breath at the end with how much more profound it ended up being... i love it when horror games subvert expectations by way of just some damn good storytelling that ends up really sticking with you. and i completely echo the sentiment of being so captivated by the writing that i was excited to reach the next diary entry, solely because of how invested i was in trying to guess at the mystery. the atmosphere created by the horror elements truly elevated the experience, this was a great game. thanks for playing it sean!
The way he just started talking at the end completely broke me man. so many creators just end the video when they’re done with the game but the fact that he takes the time to just say what’s on his mind means so fucking much to me and I couldn’t even tell you why .
When a game you expect to be a quick little horror story goes down a much deeper rabbithole of self-loathing, guilt, shame, manipulation, and unrequited love turned to obsession. Damn good game.....damn good
I'm glad that Sean cares about us like this...watching his videos helps me feel less lonely... there are nights where the loneliness seems as it's closing around me.. like the darkness takes over the day... then I hear his intro and it's like I have a friend In the room keeping me company.. for over 9 years I've made him apart of my nightly routine and for that I'm thankful. Im thankful for him being so supportive of his community.. ❤️
The "subtle horror that grows into a steady terror" story is much needed in the horror genre. Kyle slowly went from angry and jealous to homicidal. It shows how these feelings can grow and change and turn into something truly terrible, can twist someone beyond the point of recognizing themself anymore. Just wow. This game was phenomenal.
I love the "steady terror" so much. There's just so few horror games/movies that manage to maintain a consistent level of dread instead of just relying on jumpscares all the time. I felt uneasy for the whole video. There's this feeling that the threat is constant even though it's not immediate (like with something chasing you, although there were some of these sequences here).
@@gaeulmail True, but it mostly leans towards screwing with your mind in a terrifying way (Outlast being a good one). But this was definitely more on an emotional level than just scaring your tits off.
I really love you uploading the whole gameplay so we get the experience with you. You giving your opinion and view at the end of the game adds even more to it. It's a real thing that happens and this game is amazing for showing it.
As someone who was the target of some pretty vicious bullying as a kid, Sam's story hits home especially hard. Sam didn't do anything wrong, she was just different. After a lot of work I've learned that the same is true for me. Such a heartbreaking game all around. It seemed like Kyle had not only his own internalized fear and homophobia to deal with, but also some pretty severe psychosis? Still unforgivable. Still wretched. But so, so sad.
@@FailedNoName Brian having a stalker is obviously what lead to her tragic death but the bullying was happening despite that. It happened at her old school due to her dad then at her new school with the popular girl. Seemingly because she was shy and studious and came from out of town. Sam did nothing wrong and didn’t deserve this in the slightest. Being shy or “different” isn’t a bad thing but sadly people get bullied for it. Just like the original commenter mentioned, and I also was bullied for it. What happened to Sam in this story is obviously next level
@@idiotoninternet This. I actually did a little accidental "experiment" in elementary school. I'm an introvert, but I was in a group of extroverted friends and I felt always like a third wheel and so tired. So I befriended introvert there and that's when bullying started lol. Not from the group of friends, the girls were nice, but once the extroverted boys saw I became quiet they thought I was an easy target Ig.
I fought a hard battle for almost 9 years, it was awful but now it's over and things are looking great. What I'm saying is you'll get through it. It may not be tomorrow or even this year but the night doesn't last forever, the morning WILL come, hang in there, you got this.
Holy fuck, I have never seen a horror game done so well, the amount of emotions that hit throughout the whole thing is insane. I have to take a bit of time to calm down.
