"You canvased the Los Angeles area?" I love that. It's like 500 square miles. But yeah, she was so anxious and pressured that it really did impact me, just hearing her voice. Feel sorry for her.
So true what he said about military guys having a noble cause but, for the most part being a loser. That is exactly how I would describe most military guys I use to go to high school with
Yes! A lot of them aren’t even decent people, and they don’t care about bettering themselves morally or otherwise. Hiding behind the “I’m a soldier, you need to thank me for my service” facade keeps them stagnant, ultimately. They don’t care about being total shit bags in their personal lives because, hey, they served our country.
Jesus, this gave me vivid flashbacks of a couple bad relationships I was in. Whew. Once you get clear of one of those you feel like you were released from prison.
1:55 EXACTLY the description of my ex who is also named Ashley. She'd act like a bitch without realizing it and make snarky comments to friends but when someone brought it up in a polite way she'd freak out, play the victim and cry that everyone was ganging up on her. And just like the caller Ashley was self-delusional in thinking she was a patient and understanding person. Very BPD and bipolar - You feel bad for them but they're so fucking crazy they drive you away.
Reminds me of my dad. Whenever he'd come home from work or whatever we'd all just go hide in our bedrooms until he went to bed. We didn't even realize when we were doing it but it happened every. Single. Day. And then when he had a long-term girlfriend move in she and her daughter did it too. Then when he got married she and her two kids did it as well. Then when her mother moved in she did the same. It never once crossed his mind he may be bringing this on. Recently he was yelling at me for some stupid shit and I'm in my 30s now. I told him if he wanted to talk to me like a child I'd gladly cut him out of my life like I did my alcoholic abusive mother. (Shocking those two would get married and magically his current wife is also a drunk.) So he knew I'd do it. Best decision I've ever made. My brother won't speak to her either. But then he started in with this diatribe about how I didn't appreciate him and all this shit. So I told him when he'd complain about everyone locking ourselves in our bedrooms for hours and hours day after day rather than risk spending even one minute with him maybe he should have considered it had something to do with the fact that he's an asshole. Perhaps yelling at your kids over nothing (Like we literally were not allowed to laugh. We'd be punished if he heard us laughing among other things and I swear that is true.) and threatening them is not a good way to treat other people. Perhaps he brought at least part of it on himself. He could not process it. This is the kind of person Ashley is. These people cannot see their own dysfunction. It's not "kids these days" or anything specific to one generation. My father is 60. He's been like this a long time and my grandfather is the same way. He's over 85. This is not a new thing and we need to start forcing these people to get help and hold them responsible. That's going to go a long way in helping this society we live in. Now whenever my dad is a dick I dress him down and I'm extremely blunt. I've always spoken to him without fear but until recently I didn't unload on him whenever he did anything that kind of pissed me off. I'd let it slide. That was not doing him any favors or me either. This is what we're dealing with here. We MUST hold these people responsible and force them to do what's best for everyone and get their shit sorted. All you Borderlines out there, SORT YOUR SHIT OUT! This has been a public service announcement.
> All you Borderlines out there, SORT YOUR SHIT OUT! Most of them never will. I've been in a relationship with several of em and it's never them that's at fault for anything they do. As an aside, I hope you've gotten some therapy to deal with all that.
Thank you for typing this. I imagine it was a little cathartic for you to air this stuff too. Have you ever gotten any therapy to help process some of this?
Sounds like your dad was miserable and depressed, its a horrible cycle, i bet it eats at him as well though and he knew what was going on, getting out of it is almost as bad as kicking a bad addiction
I noticed this back in the day. Certain women would call and only want to talk to Drew, even though it wasn't a medical problem. They wouldn't even SAY "Adam". And these women would always be slightly bitchy. However, Ashley turned out to be a nice surprise when she admitted she needed professional help. Good for her! I hope she's happier nowadays.
It's very simple - his relationship with his brother is different than his relationship with his girlfriend. This isn't a unique situation, but yeah it sounds like she could definitely use some lithium.
Sounds exactly like the chick who called into Leykis. She was mad that her boyfriend didn't like to be woken up so she could tell him her bad dreams. "A boyfriend is supposed to listen!"
After a bit of reading, and listening to some BPD callers on Loveline, I think my first girlfriend had BPD. What a sock in the nuts to already come from a fucked up background and then my first girlfriend was even more messed up than me. At least now I know what to avoid.
Ditto, dude. First girlfriend had BPD. Not trying to assume anything about you since I don't know you, but that suggests that the both of use might have a dusting of co-dependency disorder :(
Dave Foley from kids in the hall & news Radio is squirming in agony at the sound of this girl. Look up his awful divorce from his ex-wife, how her borderline disorder ruined his life.
there are way more of these teens now, that's why this culture is shattered. i'm 30 in two weeks and now i'm looking back these kids are fucked. My Generation Y, had one foot in the classic America pre-internet and later in the social media driven. I feel way insignificant now then i did as a kids and i can't begin to imagine the message kids are getting now. We are a New World Order not just a political sense but a social sense.
The more she talked, the more my BPD alarm went off. I'm glad that's the first thing drew threw out as a possibility. Not to say her fella wasn't doing something bad, he may've been, but that's irrelevant to her being a nutcase.
I love Adam but he's doing one of my pet peeves - using the term "nationality" instead of "ethnicity". The "nationality" of everyone involved in this clip is AMERICAN - their nation of origin (I'm guessing on Ashley). Ethnicity is your racial ancestry. Oh and as usual Adam is spot on about Asians - when they're crazy, they're off the rails crazy. It's never low grade issues, a little therapy, maybe one med, etc. It's always Kathy Bates hobbling crazy.
I'm borderline. I'm tired of the shit talk about us like we're evil. Most of us are very insightful to our fuckedupness. We are very loving and passionate...but we hate ourselves for the way we are...and we know people are going to run away...but we hate it when they do...because we LOVE them. And everything we feel...whether it be love, hate, sadness or fear, we feel it 10x harder than what normal people do. If anyone thinks we choose this, they're crazier than we are.
SugarSigur I don't even know wtf normal is because of my bpd. I try, I recognize certain things, and I have to ... put myself in check. It's fucking annoying. I hate it, and it gets in the way of everything
+Stephanie Rivers I agree with you. I love Adam & Drew, but they had their bad moments. They both could have showed Ashley more compassion. I actually don't think she's Borderline. People with Borderline Personality Disorder don't usually have insight. Ashley knows something is wrong with her, and she'll willing to try therapy and/or medication. People with that attitude should be respected and encouraged! People with BPD generally blame _everybody else except_ themselves!
the problem with her suffering is that she spreads it to everyone around her. it's hard to have sympathy for someone who makes your life miserable. it's made worse by the fact that she's likely a hot chick - most of the time you can tell by a woman's voice and way of speaking. being a hot chick means the world (especially males) allow you to get away with murder all your life. they also get used to an insane amount of attention from birth, and when they don't get it, they freak out. they have no idea how to be a regular person who has to earn affection and take consequences for actions. EVERY attractive woman I've ever known has been a complete fucking mess.
Uhh no. Loveline is the DREW AND ADAM show. Not the DREW show. She treated Adam like he's irrelevant; he's *not* - Adam responded naturally, and how any man should.
Yes it does. For instance I know a Hispanic lady, who is hot-tempered - And knows she's hot-tempered, because she's Hispanic. .. And has to watch herself.
I have listened to one episode of this show so i have an idea of what the deal is, helping people with relationships and such. Now, I can't believe that Dr Drew there didnt reprimand Adam Carolla. His conduct seemed incredibly insensitive, he was looking to cause more damage with the majority of what he said. Kind of sad to take advantage of her for a laugh, someone who has real problems
Don’t speak to her like that because it is devaluing her. She is not freaking me out at the start. Adam speaking as a former borderline you freak me out. Your basic premise is right. But she will not respond. Adam you disgust me and if you spoke to me like that I would tell you I find it offensive.
