From the comments under this video, I feel strongly as if people did not actually watch it fully or completely missed the point. I see people indicating one study, whereas several studies were covered. They also came to the conclusion the video was bashing low carb diets, it was not. It was saying that not all low carb diets are created equal for the prevention of certain kinds of diseases and a person's mortality once they develop Type 2 diabetes. In fact, the conclusion I understood is that low carb diets based on plant-based proteins are good (in the context of the diseases mentioned) and if you eat carbs, you should probably eat fresh fruit. I am interpreting the very last part because our dear doctor discussed that particular study of Chinese participants towards the end of the video. It did not say that all low carb diets are terrible, just that ones based mainly on meat-based proteins open you up to stronger risk factors. If you do follow a meat-based low carb diet, you might get Type 2 diabetes, but you also might not. So if you are xx+ years old and somehow you feel great after y amount of time on a meat-based keto diet, great for you! Your experience does not invalidate the results of this study.
Unfortunately, many people do not understand "science." What it means, how it's done, how it's not done, how it's interpreted & applied. I firmly believe that if the majority of people did know, the world would be a much better & safer place. And thanks so much for your comment. 😊
Low carb or keto doesn't necessarily mean high saturated fat and cholesterol and low fiber. I get my fiber from berries and avocados, and healthy fat from avocados, salmon, and EVOO salad dressing. I don't eat high cholesterol and saturated fat foods but I'm still on a low carb diet.
@@SusanKay- I eat plenty of nuts and seeds. But I avoid the whole grains because I already get plenty of fiber and want to avoid the starch and sugar carbs.
Fiber is not just an additional Makro nutrient which you can sprinkle over your meal his most important effect is the slow down of absorption and that can only happen when the makronutrients are bound on intact fiber
@@quickcube2834 Not true. That's a made-up claim to get people to eat cheap plant food sold at huge profits. When eating quality fat and protein aka very-low-carb, there's no need to slow down absorption. Fiber can have some benefits for the microbiome, but that's a different discussion, and large amounts aren't required anyway.
Agreed. From what I could glean from the video, this study sounds very suspect in it's definitions of the groups. A person could survive on hotdogs and end up in the low carb group.
Correct: I move from strict keto, to pescatarian, to vegan keto, to 5:2 diet, to Atkins, to Longo's mimicking diet, to carnivore... they all work; they have one think in common: control of carb intake, eliminate cravings, no snacking junk, some exercise, no less than 40% fat.
@@usadaily135 I have eaten two low carb diets, a raw vegan one solely based one nuts and the other based mostly on animal products, like fish eggs and Greek yoghurt. And guess what i prospered on the vegan one until I was reading a fear mongering artical about an anecdote about someone who has become kidney stones from nuts trough Oxalats and so I stopped it and after a year I went to a low carb animal based diet and I near diet, also my blood glucose went so bad with the animal based low carb diet.
I struggled w/diabetes T2, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, auto-immune diseases, skin allergies, etc. for years and years. I tried the ADA recommended diet, I tried vegetarianism, I tried the Mediterranean diet-- best that happened was they somewhat managed my diabetes so with insulin & meds, I could usually control it. High fat/low carb diet has reversed diabetes (no more meds), blood pressure better than when I was in my 20s (no more meds for that, either), triglycerides are down & cholesterol good (again, no more meds), auto-immunes disease rarely flares up anymore (taking way fewer NAISD than ever), no more skin problems. I will stick to low carb, I think your data is flawed somewhere.
I went low carb diet almost a year ago. I'm never going back. The changes were phenomenal in how I feel (energy levels and also overall) and look (lost any guy gut fat, chin fat about gone, etc). I tell everyone I'm aging in reverse. Seriously, my body shape is back to what it was in my 20s and my energy levels are also getting there. I still eat whole fruits once a day, it has become such a treat. And avoid processed food but I was doing that on a regular diet.
I should also mention that my allergies were pretty bad before starting low carb, and are now almost non existent. I have yet to even get the flu since starting low carb. And joint pain, I was dealing with pretty intense pain I thought was just old age. Most of that is gone!
@@glynemartin Nah, I was a vegetarian for almost a year, felt like crap. I would be sitting there watching TV during middle of the day and suddenly fall asleep. Tried all the B vitamins and such, just got worse and worse. And I eat healthy, very little processed food. I gave up all soda, caffeine, and fast food over a decade ago.
When I got off keto my insulin resistance was insane. I’m never going back to keto . It even felt terrible as my body was adjusting back to eating carbs
10 years ago I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, fatty liver disease - all while following a low fat diet as advised by a dietician. I realised that my doctor, dietician and the food industry were not helping so I have followed a low carb/ Keto diet since that time and all these diseases have disappeared, I feel like I did when I was in my 20’s, all my blood results have consistently stayed within the normal parameters , that’s all the proof I need!
ABSOLUTELY! It should be obvious to you by the middle of this video that this is BOGUS. So what's the intent? We know that our ancient ancestors were largely meat eaters. We know, too, that diabetes had not entered the scene that long ago. Ergo, meat eating (which was a majority diet of our ancient ancestors) does not cause diabetes. THEY THINK YOU ARE STUPID and will not figure this out. Their agenda however, is very plain to see if you use your brain and put 2 and 2 together. We know that a depopulation agenda is in full swing by the WHO and cabal at this point so it's not difficult to figure this out.
This is a topic near and dear to my heart. Very low-carb clean keto allowed me to reverse several "irreversible" conditions. While being on a "healthful" FDA food pyramid diet for many years, 5 years ago, I was diagnosed with heart failure (diastolic dysfunction, inverted T wave, 35%EF, and mitral regurgitation), drug-resistant high blood pressure, tachycardia, and stage 3 kidney failure (estimated 3 years from dialysis). Knowing all those are connected via diet (high glucose, insulin, and inflammation similar to diabetes and obesity (I was neither)), I started studying on Medcram and self-treating with an anti-diabetic diet that became a full clean keto diet (not hotdogs). For the last 3 years, I've been in ketosis on a very low carb clean keto, moderate protein, high-fat diet, and intermittent fasting. I eat whole foods and avoid processed foods and inflammatory seed oils. Doing that my heart is 100% normal without medications, EF55%, T-wave normal, BP normal with no meds, tachycardia resolved, my GERD problem disappeared, and now eGFR 84. Yes, I'm one case N=1, but no one will ever convince me that the FDA food pyramid diet isn't poisoning people. Cheers
Absolutely right. I have lost 80lbs, reversed t2d, reversed copd, eliminated arthritis and have way more energy and stamina than I have had since I was about 30 (62 now). I was following the recommended diet of fruit veges whole grains etc with very little meat for years and only got fatter and sicker.
@@tonyg9511 I hear ya! I listened to one lecture by a medical doctor with T1DM. He says he "nearly cured" his DM eating very low carb, and now takes almost no insulin. Many docs say to avoid keto, but they only know keto as high-protein junk food and hotdogs. Clean keto is truly the opposite of that. It's a clean whole-food keto diet, and best for "everything" including DM, kidney cyst growth, hyperglycemia, hyperinsulinemia, hyperlipidemia, diabetes, heart, immunity, weight loss, inflammation, hernias, GERD, liver cysts, PCOS, tinnitus, thyroid function, dementia, weight loss, vision health, depression, gout, neuropathy, arthritis, cancer, many brain disorders, and more. Cheers!
@@triplex7144 Domesticated animals get fat. Plenty of fat dogs and cats out there. I would imagine that any animal that has access to whatever food they desire at any time of the day or night would become overweight and develop chronic diseases at rates worse than humans.
So you’re saying “no real clinical data in healthy individuals” is the same as “growing body of evidence”? You zealots are all the same. Anecdotes are not reliable data.
why don't you two MD's do a joint RU-vid video. With 2.5 and 1.5 million subscribers.....and / or add Dr. Westman of Duke University who has been using a low carb diet successfully to treat his patients for years.
I've been an avid viewer of your videos recently Ken. I am very interested in the carnivore diet as a way of controlling blood sugar and as an elimination diet. The sheer number of positive case reports in the comments section of any video about the carnivore diet is fascinating. My one reservation about it is the unknown effect on the gut microbiome in the long term. I will be very interested to hear your response to this video/study 👍
I'm on Atkins. I eat cherries, blueberries, black currents, plus lots and lots of vegetables low starch vegetables - like tomatoes, garlick, onions, cabbage, kale, and many many other kinds of vegetables. It would be interesting to know what they actually mean by low carb diet.
@elizabethoutlookchan6764 Dr Atkins died from having a head injury and the resulting problems that occurred from it. Maybe you should get more information before professing to know what caused it.
@Elizabeth [Outlook] Chan SMH Death. On April 7, 2003, Atkins fell and hit his head on an icy New York sidewalk. He was admitted to Weill Cornell Medical Center, where he underwent surgery to remove a blood clot from his brain, but fell into a coma. He died on April 17, at age 72. 🤡🤡🤥🤥🤥
See Paul Mason, MD for an alternate view. Cholesterol theory as THE cause of heart disease is extremely weak. Suggest TG/HDL is a much better indicator of risk of having a cardiac event than high cholesterol. This presentation is insulting and not worthy of Dr. Seheult's usual presentations. The ketogenic diet has gotten me out of a pre-diabetic state and lowered my Hgb A1C and reduced my fasting insulin level dramatically. furthermore, I can't eat fruit and stay in ketosis. But biochemistry may very from patient to patient. Thus, affordable CGMs (continuous glucose monitors) would allow people to customize their diets to keep their blood individual glucose levels ratther level throughout the day. Additionally, hyperinsulinemia from whatever cause is the major villain in a whole variety of metabolic diseases. It may exist for 10 to 20 years before fasting blood sugars rise or Hgb A1 C's increase. The undetected hyperinsulinemia is wreaking damage to multiple organs over time while the pancreas is working oin overdrive to control blood sugars levels. Metabolic Disease which most often has hyperinsulinemia as a major if not the only cause of the problem is the villain that is the largest factor ins precipitating diabetes and cardiovascular disease and nonalcoholic fatty liver disease and possibly Alzheimer's disease in my humble opinion.
Of course you lower your blood sugar and fasting insulin if you don't eat carbohydrates. It doesn't mean you improve insulin resistance, which is the disease. In fact, saturated fats worsen insulin resistance. Fruits, vegetables and other plant foods improve insulin resistance. This is why people who eat them do better, both in terms of preventing and treating diabetes, as the video explains.
No one size fits all. My brother has never been fat and eats 2x what I do. I have been morbid obese 30 years. I stopped all sugar and carbs, processed foods for for 35 days now and lost 31.8 lbs. I feel better than I have in 20 years. I am living great compared to the last 3 years in a hospital bed with elevated feet about 22/24 per day. Now I cut the lawn and do yard work. I could not for years. It saved my life. I never was hungry, as soon as I felt hunger I cooked real food. I ate as much as I could.
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My brother eats very little, but he drinks a lot. He is very overweight. I eat pretty much anything, although I tend to shy away from carbs. I do love marbled rye bread (toasted and heavily buttered) and have 1 or 2 thick slices a day. I eat mostly real meat with some veggies (sometimes), and drink sweet tea. I am very muscular (genetics, not a lot of exercise), and not overweight. Both my brother and mother tease me about my 'tapeworm' keeping me from gaining weight while eating a lot more than both of them combined. Turns out I seem to have been inadvertently eating very much like the keto/Atkins/carnivore/etc. diets. I eat that way because it tastes good (duh...). I recommend it highly.
Unfortunately, people don't join up the dots. The amount of insulin stimulating foods we eat has a chronic effect on health. So, when someone else seems to tolerate more than you it may be that they have coped with stress better, burn more sugar with intense activities, are bigger, did not consume as much carbohydrate nor protein though life, and so on. Since you don't follow other people around 24/7 it isn't useful to compare yourself to other, people, just to recognise that you have developed a chronic health issue over decades through eating too much carbohydrate and protein as our society perpetuates. Now your tolerance is even lower. However, going to the extreme of a keto diet isn't healthy for the long term either. Instead, be very strict about not going above half the RDA of carbohydrate (from all sources), RNI of protein, with most energy from natural fat; ingested and body fat. Of that fat, ideally 57% monounsaturated, 40% saturated and 3% polyunsaturated, the same as our body's fat.
Very interesting look at and explanation of the relevant studies. My takeaway: quality matters. A lot. A good reminder that unprocessed food is best, no matter the diet followed. Thank you.
I agree. I am on the fence with regards to various forms of cooking as a form of processing food being good vs bad. The caloric uptake is generally higher and more bio-available when cooked, even if the raw numbers are lower, so is that better or worse?
One problem with studies of 'low carbohydrate' diets is that they often aren't actually low carb. Forty percent of calories from carbohydrate is not low carb. People who pursue a low carb diet typically aim for 10% or less of total calories from carbohydrate.
especially the studies were conducted in China. The Chinese are not traditionally low card people plus they were made to consume a lot of soybean oil(genetically modified)
They consider Iow carb under 150-100 grams of carbs diet is part of controlling diabetes exercise/activity is another part and managing stress is the 3rd leg of controlling diabetes
Dr. Sheult, I've been on a low carb diet for about 3 years. My HbA1c and fasting glucose have both reduced significantly, so it appears my diabetes risk has gone down. I get my protein and fats from both veggies and animal sources.
This is common so these study findings are weird. I’m animal based with fruit and eat no grains. Yet I’m not diabetic. Just goes to show how complex the human diet is
Low carb diet completely changed my life for the better. My type 2 diabetes reversed in 4 months, my high blood pressure gone. Over 10yrs of better health. The alternative is drugs and pharmaceuticals and that's what they want. They are being controlled by pharmaceutical companies who don't want you to get healthy using diet, they want you to take their drugs
There is always nuance when it comes to nutritional studies. I would bet that the definition of what constitutes a “low carb “ diet for these studies is very different than what many people eat who are currently low carb eaters. How do you explain the fact that many people have improved or reversed their t2 diabetes using a low carb diet? How about hyperinsulimia as a factor in metabolic syndrome? And please address how vegetable oils can be easily oxidized and unstable and considered healthy at the same time.
This is a real world example. With actual people followed for over 30 years in a dose response relationship. As far as studies go there isn’t much better study design.
@@Medcram I really respect you, but this study in UNCLEAR as to what a "low carb" diet it. Below 150 grams per day? 100 grams? 60 grams? relying on people's memory as to what they ate...over 30 years....c'mon, doctor...I think you're better than this.
@@davidcottrell1308 I'd also like to see animal based with NO refined carbohydrates. They ran a vegetable based with no refined carbs which improved from the vegetable with refined carbs.
I am a 77 year old male started a low carb diet 4 months ago. I have diabetes for 30 years and a heart bypass 16 years ago along with an increasing calcium score for one of my heart valves. 4 months ago I had a A1C of 7.3 today 6.4. I reduced my diabetes drugs: 15 units of long acting insulin to 10 units. eliminated Glucontrol, reduced metromin from two 1000MG per day to one. My BMI was 25.5 now its 23.5 lost about 12-15 lbs. Most interesting and unexpected results are no large up or down spikes in my sugar readings. I use to carry sugar pills as my blood sugar could drop at any time night or day. My angina has disappeared. I was always very active and continue to work out 3 days a week and do extensive garden chores.
At age 71 I was put on blood pressure meds and after a year they gave me statins which I never touched. Now four years later my blood pressure and glucose levels are back to 'normal' and my acid reflux, joint pains and migraines, disappeared. Thanks to going Keto and low carb. Ran my first marathon last year, no 'carb ups' as advised by most people involved in training. So maybe I will die of a heart attack but that seems preferable to slowly ebbing away with diabetes.
Indeed. Most diabetics die of heart disease. And diabetes can be arrested and reversed with a whole-food plant-based diet - which also reverses heart disease. Consider reading Dr. Joel Fuhrman’s “The End of Diabetes.” You don’t have to get heart disease and pay the price of living a shorter life. Best wishes!
On a "healthy" plant-based diet, I suffered from rheumatoid arthritis, peripheral nerve hyper-excitability, pre-diabetes, IBS, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, GERD and other life-limiting conditions. On a meat-based "zero carb" diet, all of these conditions are gone or greatly improved. All my numbers are that of a very healthy person. Just yesterday, my doctor said "whatever you are doing, keep it up". Low-carb has allowed me to return to the workforce and be a happy productive person.
No problem with low carb but the studies show that antioxidants, berries are beneficial and the gut micro biome allows for good bacteria that like to feed on fiber that animal products don’t have.
@@Medcram maybe the biggest benefit of my years of carnivore no fiber was obtaining a healthier gut biome. I can now tolerate many foods such as fruit.and dairy which I could not before. As for antioxidants, meat and organs are far more dense in antioxidants, plus there is less overall oxidation to deal with.
@@terfalicious Definitely, I was in the same situation eating "healthy grains" like buckwheat and brown rice. Oxalates are NO JOKE. I learned my lesson after the acumulated.
No way eating plants cause this… you must be consuming lots of refined starches.. they generate a lot of uric acid which turns into crystals and causing arthritis
Vegan studies. You have to be careful of quoting these nutrition studies. If physics was nutrition, the physicists would still be stuck on the inclined plane. What to do instead? Think a little. The idea that meat 'n veg is the cause of the modern metabolic disaster is totally dumb. The idea that we should be eating grain instead of eggs, i.e. that omelets are the problem...also very dumb.
My diet just limits processed foods and I consider it to be low-carb (especially compared to the standard American Diet). However my fruit intake, vegetable intake and rice and whole grains put me far over what others consider low-carb. Low-carb diets are indeed very different across the board!
The standard american diet is only meant as an statistic reference for the sake of comparison, it is not meant to be used as a measurement device to define what is low carb, otherwise 90% of the world would be in a low carb diet by default because they don't eat as badly as the americans.
Carbs have been vilified because people don't understand that whole fruits and veggies are good carbs. It is healthy to cut out *processed* carbs -> anything that's made of flour or contains sugar. Enjoy your fruits and veggies :-) .
@@myggggeneration is that so? how about me that as soon as I start eating fresh fruits I just put on weight uncontrollably. do you think it has to do with the sugar in the fruits? I don't believe a single word from this video it's all propaganda against low carb.
@@Metarig To me, the only fruits I consume are avocado, olive, lemons, limes in water and berries. Commercially developed apples, oranges, watermelon, bananas, etc are too high in Sugar to eat with any regularity. They also spike one's hunger.
Agreed. I happen to live in a region that produces fruits, including grapes and wine, vegetables, and fresh seafood and sea fish. I strictly reduce bread, pastries, pasta and potatoes, but allow myself some weekly leeway. And I eat lean meat, eggs, fish plus red meat once or twice a week. Water and some added minerals and additives. That works for me.
This is interesting. I use to eat a diet filled with grains and fruits until I became diabetic. I found that as much as I loved that food, it drove my blood sugar crazy. Over time, with years of experimentation , I found that a high fat diet was the only way to keep things under control. Maybe it is unhealthy but an A1C under 5 and good labs suggest that I need to stay this course.
Very interesting but it just doesn't translate into my version of subjective reality, because red, fatty meats (zero carbs/plants) helped me heal many autoimmune issues, completely. I'm 46 and got a new lease on life. I am more agile than most of my colleagues in IT that are way younger. My libido is through the roof. If this means that my life will end sooner, at least it will be a life well lived.
Isolated case? There are thousands of people living a low carb lifestyle and have healed themselves from metabolic syndrome and all other diseases. There are plenty of us out there that have been living this lifestyle for years that could be studied.
@@carlasKK42923 And every time when you show the scientific data to this ”healthy" meat eaters you have same answer you'd expect from an alcoholic or a chain-smoker.
@Boris Baconstein 1. Reality is objective. Subjective is a BS you choose to believe. Check a dictionary if you don't believe me. 2. You cannot say if you feel ok because of your diet or DESPITE it. You need causation, not only correlation. 3. You cannot say if feeling great now is good for you. Try crack cocaine if you still don't understand when 46 years old. 4. The study shows a statical improvement for a diet with high veg and fruit intakes and negative consequences of a diet based on animal products. And yes, the correlation is well known and understand for some time already.
@@carlasKK42923 And there are plenty of people who tried a low carb keto lifestyle and just couldn't do it. I did it for many months. Hot flashes overwhelmed me, my cholesterol shot up, nightly leg cramps, and I was always hungry. We are all different, and some of us need more carbs. I'm on the list of those who do.
I have been on ketogenic diets for 25 years since diagnosed with type 2 diabetes at age 40 (I was a huge mess). I strive to eat no glucose (carbs) at all. Glucose is not a required nutrient, your liver makes all you need. It saved my future. At 65 5'4" male 135 lbs. 32 inch waist. Last A1C 5.1. I am a fat adapted fat burner producing ketones, essentially at all times.
I have just became diabetic and ma body can’t handle hardly any carbs at all. I am on a very restricted diet because I don’t want to be on insulin. I eat sweet potatoes with the skin on, green beans carrots and a huge leafy green salad a couple of times a day. NO BEANS! They Jack up my blood sugar. No white potatoes. Or rice. I walk after every meal 1 mile And the crazy thing is I am 5’2” and weigh 100lbs. I make a giant Glucerna or Slim Fast protein shake with berries and drink that with my salads to help fill me up and get a good dose of vitamins and minerals. So far this diet is working for me. I also take 8-10 supplements a day including hyaluronic acid for my skin and It was a tough 1st 2 weeks but I am managing my diabetes through diet and exercise and I am finally feeling “normal”.
@@Idiotsincarshere no, you would simply be in your natural state. Burning fat is our primary and best energy source. Using glucose is directly what causes diabetes and is unnatural, hence why ppl who cut out carbs completely are far healthier and yest they are burning fat for energy. Its amazing how ignorant you ppl are, you literally promote inflammation and triggering the randle cycle without a clue
Interesting that this paper was presented at the "Ancel Keys Memorial" meeting. I would like to know who paid for the study which seems to support some of his earlier findings.
7 weeks into a “keto” diet and I’ve discovered that I can exist happily on very little food. When I do eat, I choose healthy fats and veggies. I’ve noticed quite a bit of weight loss, extra energy and focus throughout my day, zero hunger cravings, and overall my mood has lifted significantly! I’m not gorging myself on animal proteins either. I feel my diet has evolved quite a bit from the first week to the seventh week. I can’t imagine this diet could lead to diabetes lol.. that’s insane . I keep my daily carb intake below 20 grams and it’s not hard to do. I do plan on continuing this lifestyle for as long as I see results and continue to feel really good.
Wonderful to feel my body "at peace", no craving fighting, no food obsession, no mealtime planning: eating to live NOT living to eat! Food : an after thought. Low to no carb: the path to good health and good living. When will the veggie people (including my vegan son who is a PA at a renown hospital) who need not to forget to order on a recurring basis their B2 supplementation get it?
No problem with low carb but imagine if your body had access to polyphenols, antioxidants and fiber that would allow your gut microbiome to thrive. That comes from plants and not animals.
I am nowhere near as educated As You Are. But let me tell you my story briefly. I weighed 275 lb as a senior in high school 6 foot 5. I weighed as much as 360 lb in my forties. I have tried every diet and every exercise regime that I could to no avail. One year ago I started eating a strict carnivore diet. I now currently weigh 258 lb I no longer use my CPAP machine at night and I sleep 8 hours a night now and I have been able to stop taking metformin, juniveva,farxiga. My blood glucose in the morning is usually between 90 and 100 now. I have tried to introduce fruits some raw honey and some vegetables back into my diet but the blood glucose machine tells me that that's not going to be an option. I also understand we're all not the same but this is simply my story and what has and is working for me. I loved your covid content keep up the good work and stay safe.
You should see the difference. Fruit is fructose which is metabolized in the liver and elicits a very limited glucose/insulin response. The downside is that too much fruit can cause fatty liver disease and cause high uric acid and the complications associated with that. cheers
@@CaptainSteve777 *_"Conclusions:_*_ No obesity-independent association was found between fruit or vegetable intake and NAFLD. According to the findings of this study, Japanese do not need to restrict fruit consumption to limit fructose intake as a means of preventing NAFLD."_ You are repeating the anti- fruit, anti- natural carb talking point. No studies ever proved that fruit causes NAFLD... the over obsession with your blood glucose meter (if you don't have a metabolic disease like diabetes) whilst over looking other variables like *_induced glucose intolerance and pancreatitis,_* will be a long journey in undoing...
Low carb diet completely changed my life for the better. My type 2 diabetes reversed in 4 months, my high blood pressure gone. Over 10yrs of better health. The alternative is drugs and pharmaceuticals and that's what they want. They are being controlled by pharmaceutical companies who don't want you to get healthy using diet, they want you to take their drugs
The reason for the apparently curative effects of a LCD for conditions like T2D is simple. We need to see this against the background of widespread insulin resistance in Western countries. IR is caused by excessive fat....intramyocellular fat......which blocks the action of insulin, leading to eventual T2D when insulin output is maxxed out. When you take on a LCD you are NOT curing your T2D, but simply dodging your insulin resistance by restricting sugar. If you then have a high carb meal you're bang back against your IR/T2D. You are not cured...you have lost your natural metabolic flexibility because of high fat consumption (>35%). LCDs only serve to mask this. And you will eventually pay the price, as this podcast shows. Drastically cut the fat (
This in no way changes my view about low carb diet. I dont believe in this observational study. My health is the most powerful evidence to convince me that low carb, ketovore even carnivor diets are my choices.
Refined sugar? What sort of low carb diet includes that? Also DR Robert Lustig looked at the difference in fruit consumption between WHOLE fruit and smoothies etc (which destroy the fibre). So it's not just WHAT you eat, but HOW you do it. The more processing, the less fibre. The less fibre, the greater the rise in blood sugar - because fibre slows down the release of BS into the bloodstream.
None of these results differentiate between lowish carb diets and actual keto diets, as others have pointed out. I would really like to see this data crunched with that in mind. Until then I find it hard to believe that I feel so much better, for the last 7 years, but I am at risk for all these bad things. In addition, on the keto diet I am able to maintain a daily fasting period of 16 to 20 hours, which I cannot do when carbs are in the picture. This eating pattern has been shown to have multiple long term benefits.
Low carb diet completely changed my life for the better. My type 2 diabetes reversed in 4 months, my high blood pressure gone. Over 10yrs of better health. The alternative is drugs and pharmaceuticals and that's what they want. They are being controlled by pharmaceutical companies who don't want you to get healthy using diet, they want you to take their drugs
I have been on and off low carb for the past three years. Every time I fall off the wagon, my physical and mental health goes to crap which motivates me to go back on and get things in working order again. Only problem for me is getting that carb monkey off my back for good because it pulls me in like a drug. Always thinking I can go back and keep things under control or only have the carbs once every three weeks. Before I know it, I am back to getting my fix every day.
@@dondajulah4168 Processed carbs (pasta, bread, white rice, sugar, etc.) make me hungry and overeat. Keto satiates me and allows me to succeed in intermittent fasting. But over time, I run down and get a little foggy with pure keto. I'm going to try adding more MCT's, more fat, more electrolytes, and increased hydration. Good luck with keeping the "Carb Monkey" off your back.
its pretty simple, very corrupt people publish lies to push humanity into the direction of hurting themselves. Its to make it easier to control us. The hard truth is we are carnivores, which is why keto works, although you should go pure carni for the best benefits. Plants have tons of toxins that build up in our bodies
I'm Sick and tired of keto and vegan extremist! As If keto was part of their lives forever 🤦🏼♂️ Usually it's western people who have the most diseases in the world. In Japan people live not off keto and live longer in health than those on keto or veganism only. You explain that then with your smart western mind? Its the chemicals killing western people the most in food and water and air
As a physician who also has a degree in nutrition, I simply want to state that nutritional epidemiological research is the worst science there is. If I had to fill out a nutritional diet survey as a professional in medicine and nutrition I would simply be making stuff up to complete the form. I wonder how often people list what they wish they were eating or what they thought the researchers wanted to hear. It is difficult to do meaningful statically analysis when the data that went into the stew was unreliable data. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the quality of scientific research, that derived from any epidemiological nutritional research is a negative number. Ancel Keys???? science???? lol
Judging by the superlatives in your comment it seems like you are in more disagreement with the results rather than the methods. This is the same method that was used to determine cause and effect of smoking and lung cancer. Perhaps you can explain how recall bias would create a dose effect relationship.
@@Medcram no it is not. smoking or not is a very binary measurement. diet is vastly more complex and difficult to measure. it’s a grossly false equivalence.
It's not clear how it's remotely possible for a cohort can consume refined carbohydrates on a so called "low carb diet"! Obviously it looks like the study didn't measure for ketosis or blood glucose response. For example, there is an enormous difference between 150 grams of carbs per day versus 50. The latter is closer to a low carb diet, probably will result in 20 net carbs if it's heavy on vegetables. But this regiment just 50 grams allotment per day leaves no room to touch refined carbs of any kind. One teaspoon of sugar is about 10% additional carbs. This particular detail about grams per day (not the percentage of energy) seems to be the biggest confounder on the study. It's akin to the tobacco and asbestos exposure if it were to have no measurements of exposure per day.
Pretty sure carbs are the wrong metric to be looking at. The real issue is metabolic flexibility when affects carbohydrate tolerance. As your metabolic health worsens, so does your tolerance for carbs. Due to low carbohydrate tolerance, low carb works, but is missing the root cause of the problem, which is damaged mitochondria. The primary culprit for harming mitochondria this is is excess vegetable and seed oils, due to high Linoleic Acid content. This occurs via incorporation of LA into the mitochondrial membrane. LA is incorporated into cardiolipin, making it prone to oxidation. When. It oxidizes, the membrane becomes leaky and mitochondrial dysfunctional. This accumulates over time. LA is also incorporated into all our cell membranes, where it oxidizes easily. Here is creates many toxic compounds such as 4HNE or 9 and 13 HODE, causing damage and inflammation. The Half life of linoleic acid is 1-2 years and we eat 10x what we did ancestrally. To get back to proper levels in our bodies, it takes 3+ years.
Dose response aspect of this study should not be missed. As the diet became more and more in its category the results because more extreme. That would be my answer to your criticism of the study. By the way this is certainly not the only study that has found this result.
@@Medcram the problem with dose response is that while going from one extereme to the other you end up in the high carb AND high fat combination that everyone agrees its bad.
No problem with low carb but imagine if your body had access to polyphenols, antioxidants and fiber that would allow your gut microbiome to thrive. That comes from plants and not animals.
I think you did not understand. The study shows you're better of if you eat lots of fruits and vegetables opposite to the diet base on animal products. You may have a vegan diet with a low level of carbs and a very low amount of a highly processed food. Most of low carb diet is here to push "guilty free" meat consumption and this is definitely not healthy. About the rest. Hunger is rather complicated. You may feel hungry after a big meal only because you did not have what you eat always. Italians without pasta, Filipinos with no rice etc. Changes take time. You can fix your problem with weight, hunger,energy, and mood by snorting meth instead eating anything. Yea, some say it may not be the healthiest option but it ticks all your boxes, doesn't it.
Doc - you need to be up front and tell people that you yourself are a vegan, and support plant based diets. Not suggesting you would be biased of course.
I’m not vegan. I used to eat meat. It’s perfectly appropriate to review data and the be convinced by the results and then make changes in your own life as a result.
@@Medcram not vegan but used to eat meat? So you no longer eat meat? I recall seeing an interview of yourself many years ago where you stated you and your family were on a plant based diet.
In April 2020, I weighed 313 pounds, had inflammation in all of my joints, was prediabetic type 2, high blood pressure and unhealthy cholesterol levels. I began practising intermittent fasting 18:6 and followed a strict Ketogenic diet of high fat, low carb, moderate protein. Within 10 months I'd lost 103 pounds, reversed the prediabetes, lowered my cholesterol and blood pressure to healthy levels and finally, I got all of my joints back. I've followed this lifestyle for three years now and I've maintained all of the mentioned benefits. My recent A1C blood test produced a score of 37, which I believe is a very good number. Despite eating a healthy high fat diet, my cholesterol levels are well within the healthy range. There are many studies out there confirming the benefits of keto, but it is crucial to do the research. One thing to take note of are the links between metabolic syndrome and various cancers. I have encountered four individuaks who have overcome stage 4 cancer, using prolonged fasting, intermittent fasting and a ketogenic diet. The work of Dr Thomas Seyfried points at starving cancer of glucose and gkutamine.
So I have choice between living longer with over a dozen asthma attacks per day and being 50 lbs over weight, as well as being too tried to do any exercise or live shorter with no asthma attack, 50 llbs lighter and now able to do bodybuilding for fun with a keto diet. I wonder which I will continue.
That’s not what he said and this is general population wide information not individual. No need to be obnoxious about the video because it didn’t meet your individual choices. You do you.
Thank you. My grandma is the longest lived of our family. She's been overweight and diabetic her whole life and has suffered greatly from physical and mental issues but will be seen as a "success" by people who solely focus on length of life.
@@ggjr61 I watched too many people listen to their doctors giving poor dietary advice and watch their health decrease. The ones that listened got better So its personal.
I thought I had asthma for years....went away completely when I eliminated wheat from my diet...along with chronic severe back pain, horrible rashes....joint pain...
I was diagnosed with heart failure five years ago. I’m old. Cause doesn’t matter to me at this point. Only issue. Good sugar levels, good blood pressure, etc. I use herbs etc to manage it. I’ve always had a very healthy whole foods diet, I’ve never liked factory processed foods. I seem to be doing OK. I eat a variety of whole foods which I love to cook from scratch. And I fast regularly which really helps with the issue of heart disease. I’ve always been turned off by “experts” who demonize foods or dictate how I should live out my life or values. I listen to my hunger and it guides me to my simple healthy foods. and I do not crave the addictive crap corporations have produced. I’m grateful I discovered at a young age that it has a very strange after taste in my mouth. Nothing like good deep hunger while I’m cooking. 😋
YES. Low Carb is Great, but ONLY if you eat a preferably plant based diet, rich in fiber, and natural foods.... It seems kind of obvious these days...🙄👍👍
"low carbohydrate diets tend to result in reduced intake of fiber and fruits" I just have the feeling whoever did the study just went for the standard carnivorous crowd or people who drink sodas for life and eat processed meat because half of my plate being greens everyday clearly goes against this study. Plus a lot of people on the keto diet do intermittent fasting. Bundling all low carbohydrate diets together in a study is straight up dishonest, like putting together the fat guy who eats a kilogram of bacon and steak per day and the person eating mostly cruciferous vegetables and 3 eggs per day. Separating animal-based LCD is also dishonest because a lot of people on a healthy keto diet choose to buy meat from farmers who treat animals in more humane ways, and the animals who are stuck in a cage for 3 years only to be sliced up are going to be stressed and possibly injured or sick, same for chickens who aren't free to walk around and eat their normal diet. Grains are not a normal diet for chickens and bovines for example, they eat it because they are fed it, when they are supposed to eat what they naturally eat when they are left to their own devices, like grass and fruits for cows, not corn. Chicken are supposed to eat greens and insects, which is why free range pasture raised chicken is healthier to consume compared to normal chicken meat. I personally don't eat red meat anymore even if beef liver is good to help nutrition. This study is very incomplete and I appreciate that you pointed out it is so, I just hope people realize there is a lot that is not covered in this, and a lot of people just don't go buying out something from a food group just because it is part of that food group.
Exactly a species appropriate diet the same goes for humans, we are not meant to eat processed grain. We need meat, fish, vegetables and a small amount of in season fruit, mainly berries.
Honestly though, you think most people on low carb diets now didn't try eating whole grains and veggies? A lot of low carbers I've known even tried vegetarianism for a while in search of solutions. When I eat refined carbs my blood sugar spikes badly; when I eat whole grains and fruits, my blood sugar still spikes... not as badly, but it still spikes. I'm just one person but I'm willing to bet if you surveyed low carb dieters you'd find the vast majority of them at one point or another tried whole grains and fruits/veggies and didn't find it effective enough (or sustainable, for those of us who have carb addictions that get triggered by fruits and grains).
@@RecicledCanadian brown rice and white rice have difference glycemic indexes (50 vs 72) and different nutritional profiles, while their carb contents are about the same.
The only problem with this meta-analysis of OLD studies is that if you actually look at the studies NOT ONE OF THEM is actually a LOW CARD DIET, the studies that they looked at have massive compounding factors that are completely ignored so the conclusions of this Meta-analysis are worthless!!!! I think you are doing a huge disservice by not also disclosing who funded these studies! I find it interesting as well that you have decided to put this out when currently there are over 100 active studies on low-carb diets and meat consumption! I also find it odd to the extreme that these studies do not dovetail at all with the 100s of Thousands of "anecdotal" cases that clearly refute just about everything in every study you presented!!
Wow, they checked with the nurses every 4 years on what they ate during the past 4 years and drew conclusions. Give me a break. People can only vaguely remember what they ate in the past year, much less what they ate in the last 4 years.
Nobody consumes that much MCT Oils unless they want soiled underwear all the time. I lost 150lbs on Low Carb. From 320lbs to 170lbs. Have maintained it for 5 years now. And it’s a good thing I lost 150lbs because I required open heart surgery to replace a congenitally defective aortic valve that also had a 5 mm hole in one of the leaflets (endocarditis - don’t know when or how?). One year after OHS I feel great.
Ironically, that’s what most carnivores do. In nature, it is possible but generally rare to find carnivores that eat other carnivores. Better food, efficiency, eating things that are closer to the Sun, which is a true energy source.
The groups de-emphasizing grains or processed carbohydrates makes me question how they qualified the other groups as low carb at all. My idea of low carb is less than per day and my understanding of keto is less than 20 carbs per day. In other words, low carb allows you to have a few more tomatoes, carrots and onions on your salad than keto. No room for processed carbs and grains inlets you omit fruits and vegetables. Also, if no meat is consumed, does that mean fish and eggs are being consumed? If not, how are they getting enough protein from a vegan diet while maintaining a low carb ratio? The listed co-founders are interesting, but I think co-founders more relevant to T2D should include eating windows and anything else that would trigger the release of insulin into the blood, including artificial sweeteners. Another confounder is the Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio. If T2D is related to inflammation, highly processed seed oils vs. EVOO will confound inflammation results. Thank you for the discussion of red meat and Sialic Acids. This might explain the success of Mediterranean diets that lean into salads, fish and eggs (but not pasta, cheese and deep fried healthy sruff).
I have always admired your sharp intellect and science based opinion. However, this time , I don’t understand how low carbs diets increases type 2 diabetes. The general trend of the last few decade tells another story. From my personal experience, I went from 135 kg to 108 following a ketogenic diet with out any increase in physical activity. All my insulin resistance markers improved in a short period of time.
For a good reason. Reducing energy from any food source is going to encourage weight loss. However, what you replace it with might have long-term consequences. These studies illuminate that fact.
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@@Medcram Title : "ANCEL KEYS MEMORIAL LECTURE" should be enough to be extremely patient to interpret this study. I see no data on how many carbs have been consumed in each group and how was this controlled. 2 times in 10 years as questionnaire ?
That's because low carb diets don't increase type 2 diabetes. I find that pro-carb researchers purposely call bad diets low carb, to make the case they already believe. Science is usually nothing but propaganda...
Dude wants you to keep eating pizza and donuts. Do the opposite of whatever he says. Remember the medical orthodoxy once thought smoking was healthy. They have no credibility.
Pizza and donuts are not healthy. I would never want you to eat that the medical community that you say advocated for smoking was prior to data. This is data.
This is such and interesting subject! I'm working on implementing a low carb (not strict keto) way of eating for my health. Keeping my carbs to under 50g is proving to be more sustainable for me. It's interesting to watch health and wellness videos from the 50's and 60's and to see that this is absolutely the way people have always knew to eat! Too many carbohydrates, sugar and "junk food" is what makes people fat. One can have meat, fish, veggies and some fruit for weight reduction. It's just common sense. The American Food Pyramid really messed up everyones common sense healthy food perception and it's gone down hill from there! If everyone ate like their great-great-grandmother's ate then this world would be a much healthier place!
I'm not a medical professional. Rather, I'm a every day person who benefits greatly from being able learn about the things that impact my health directly. It allows me to be able to speak with knowledge with my Doctor(s) and understand what they mean. For that I'm thankful for MedCram.
I’m grateful to MedCram also. This video however seems treats what seems to be a highly weak study based on self-reported data in increments of 4 years. I still don’t understand how this is a robust or convincing study from a scientific perspective
How accurately do people self report their carbohydrate consumption?? How many donuts do you eat a day on average 😅? Who answers that question honestly. Same is true of cookies, ice cream , bread and cakes. This presentation it ironic given that an ultra low carbohydrate diet is used to reverse diabetes. If you don’t eat carbs can you really develop type 2 diabetes? I don’t think that’s likely. Did they measure their HgA1c over time? We’re these people insulin resistant? Did they have fatty liver? Metabolic syndrome? If any of the above they were eating more cabs Rogan they admitted to . Ho do you define low carb? For me it 20-30 total carbs. I really think these papers are based on VERY flawed data! I might add that I eat lots of fibre, some berries, green leafy veg, kimchi, sauerkraut, broccoli, peppers, tomatoes, sprouts, cabbage, salads, some squashes, aubergine, avocado, high quality extra virgin olive oil.
ultra low carb diets don't reverse diabetes. That's like saying not eating peanuts reverses peanut allergy. IT doesn't- you're just avoiding the thing that causes you problems.
Monitor your own blood glucose get your own metabolic panels, monitor blood pressure, keep a dietary log and check your HgA1c. Don't trust trust medical providers. Avoid sweeteners including non-nutritive sweeteners as they cause insulin release.
@@laurelmartone73 that’s what it looks like to me. Totally at odds wo the the work of Dr. Eric Westman , Duke University, USA and Prof. Roy Taylor MBE of Newcastle University, UK.
I've reversed diabetes and insulin resistance with a carnivore diet. All red meat and eggs for years. Saturated fat and dietary cholesterol don't negatively affect your health. High insulin and sugar does.
On a carnivore diet, it is the blood sugar level which goes down (since you are not consuming carbs), but insulin resistance is still there. So insulin resistance is not reversed, because as soon as you eat carbs, your blood sugar would go up. If insulin resistance reversed, one should be able to tolerate more carbs. To see if your insulin resistance is changed, you need to do glucose tolerance test. Many studies have shown that that glucose tolerance goes down (meaning insulin resistance goes up) on a high fat diet. It is shown that fat actually interferes with muscle cells’ ability to take in sugar (in other words, insulin becomes less effective in removing sugar from blood), thus presence of fat in muscle cells (where it does not belong) actually increases insulin resistance. But one doesn’t see this by just looking at blood sugar level because if he/she is consuming less carbs. Often for many on carb-restricted diet, there is an increased need for insulin (after many years) for the same amount carbs. One of the reasons that losing weight lowers insulin resistance is that when one loses body fat, fat in muscle cell also reduces, which lowers insulin resistance.
@@RK-tf8pq you simply need to test your insulin resistance. Mine is gone. Testing blood sugar alone is not enough. Insulin resistance does not increase on a high fat diet.
@@diveshs295 if you lose weight, your insulin resistance goes down. But over the years, studies have shown that insulin resistance goes up in many people. On the other hand, a high fiber diet, low fat has shown to reverse insulin resistance.
Most so called low carb diets aren't actually ketogenic. Long-term ketogenic, and carnivore is the best thing I've done in over 60 years. Better energy, no more chronic inflammation and pain pain, and the best lab work I've ever had. Carnivore for the win!
@@davidcottrell1308 if they are really interested in long-term effects, they should look at Eric Westman, Stephen Phinney, Jeff Volek and others who have been saving lives and improving health for decades with a real ketogenic diet.
Garbage food frequency questionnaires and observational studies. Why waste your time with these studies when we have better interventional studies which show the exact opposite conclusions.
Please post them. This is more than an observational study. It incorporates dose response curve which I took great pains in the video to make sure it was understood the significance of.
@@twinflame4618 So? I was responding to Lemon. What you believe doesn't matter to me. That's between you and the Creator of the Universe. FYI, I thought what you believe for many years until I fully understood the science. You have more faith than I do to be so foolish. Good luck. You're going to need it.
It's a lot about what WEF and ESG represent, meat is considered bad with a large carbon footprint. And there is a big campaign against eating meat, I recommend the debate on the Oxford U. YT channel "Beyond meat".
Nothing works as well as Whole Food Plant Based, no Sugar, no Oil, no Salt (WFPB-SOS) which is proven to reverse or improve 12 of 15 leading cause of death outcomes (ref Dr Micheal Gregor of Nutrition Facts). Things that make the biggest difference is avoiding highly refined foods. Sugar, fruit juice, soft drinks and alcohol lead to fatty liver and raised blood triglycerides (see books and videos from Robert Lustig professor emeritus of Pediatrics). Reducing consumption of animal proteins (3 to 4 ounce serving of meat). Reducing calorie density by making half your plate low carbohydrate veggetables (ref Dr Joel Furhman). Saturated fats lead to Type II diabetes, chronic kidney disease, liver problems. Cholesterol can be lowered by reducing amount of animal products. You can live a long time eating meat and eggs. My grandfather lived to 98, was morbidly obese, but his love of ice cream and cookies left him senile and diabetic for 10 or more years. I think poached or boiled eggs are healthier than fried because of all the oil they soak up. My grandfather ate lean meats (roast, venison, etc.) and followed a diet closer to how he was raised. Salt, high oxalate foods can also lead to kidney stones. I reversed my type II diabetes in 2021 by following Cyrus Khambatta and Robbie Barbaro of Mastering Diabetes plan of WFPB-SOS, got rid high blood pressure, high cholesterol, congestive heart failure (along with walking), etc. Too much fast food, despite giving up dairy in 1983, soft drinks in 2011, fried food in 2015 led me to atrial flutter, and aforementioned conditions in 2017. I am 67 now and still working on improve digestion and CKD brought on by to many refined foods in college.
Fructose consumption from fruits cause weight gain as fructose is converted to fat -- that's one cause of the increase in fatty-liver disease is over consumption of fructose.
It's little more complicated. Yes, fructose can have this effect but fruits won't. The main issue is a percentage of fructose and especially ratio of fructose to fiber. You won't find a fatty liver among plant base vegans, even fruitarians, you will among people eating lots of highly processed food with high fructose syrup added on the top.
@@mariuszfurman4767 Steve Jobs being a fruitarian is what probably killed him. The stress on his pancreas eating all that sugar and fructose hammered it.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THAT GOOD CARBS ARE IMPORTANT AND THAT ANIMAL PROTEIN ARE NOT AS GOOD AS PLANT-BASED PROTEIN. YOU CAN FOLLOW A KETO DIET WHICH IS PLANT BASED BUT I WOULD ALWAYS INCLUDE SOME VERY GOOD QUALITY CARBS. FOR EXAMPLE LEGUMES OFFER GOOD PROTEIN AND GOOD CARBS. I AM SO TIRED OF MEAT-INDUSTRY-FUNDED RUBBISH BRAINWASHING PEOPLE INTO EATING THEMSELVES INTO DISEASE.
I do trust Dr. Seheult's reporting here. But I would also point out his ties with Loma Linda University, affiliated with The Seventh Day Adventist Church. This faith does emphasize a vegetarian diet. The practitioners of this faith are anecdotally known for particularly long lives, so perhaps it's an effective diet.
Yes, Although I used to eat meat despite that affiliation and I am still not a strict vegan. I changed my diet because of the evidence. I would note that Adventist also do many other things that increase longevity: 1) Encourage moderate exercise 2) liberal use of water (both internally and externally) 3) Getting out in Sunshine 4) Avoiding Alcohol, tobacco, and illict drugs 5) Fresh Air 6) Rest - including a weekly rest from gainful employment on Sabbath (Saturday) and Trust in a higher power (God). They live up to 11 years longer than the average in the US.
@@Medcram Thank you for your reply! I hope your day was a good one. With regard to the life practices here, they sound pretty good to me! Good advice for just about everyone. Thank you also for all your videos during the pandemic. I found them to be very useful.
There's a lot of focus these days on decreased longevity and healthspan due to sarcopenia as we age. I'm concerned that plant-based proteins will not be sufficient to stem the tide.
I'm 70 and have been an avid mountain biker for decades. I tried low-carb in my 50's. Lost weight fast, but didn't have energy for long rides. More recently I went on a diet in which I ate dinner really early - around 4 PM (partially to reduce acid reflux). Consistently eating early reduced weight as fast as low carb, but left me with more energy for riding. So, if your main goal is weight loss, there are better methods, I think, than low carb.
My average bed time is probably 9 PM with a wakeup time of around 5 AM up until sunset gets late. When I was on the low carb, I was in my 50's, but still got good rest. During the height of mountain biking season, I'll shift eating to around 6 PM and bed at 10 PM and at that point I expect my weight to stabilize. It's "mud-season" here, now with ski areas closed and trails under snow, so I can afford to drop some weight and early dinner seems to be a winning strategy for me. Once the season starts, I ride best around early afternoon as I've had time to hydrate during the day. It's almost 7000' here and warm and dry so hydration is key. H/T to Medcram, as even in summer (based on blood work) I still need some D3 supplementation which I ramp up in winter (again, based on bloodwork with my doctor).
@@kayakutah Eating your last meal at least three hours prior to bedtime is a proven winning strategy. Digestion is metabolically taxing. When comparing time restricted feeding, the group eating earlier in the day always does better. Skipping breakfast is easier for most people but if you are really playing to win, an early dinner rules.
Low carb does not mean ketogenic. A sensibly planned ketogenic diet is absolutely the best approach for maintaining health, fitness, energy, recovery, and performance.
Let me get this straight, you're saying that a carnivore diet (fat & protein - zero carbs) which generates the lowest possible insulin response... will cause insulin resistance and diabetes??? This makes no sense whatsoever. Another giant red flag is that they seem to fail to define 'low carb' diets in the meta analysis. These papers have a very bad habit of considering levels as high as 100g of carbs per day as low carb, which is absurd, and thus obviously lacks the metabolic benefits of a true low carb diet.
First of all. I’m not saying anything. I’m explaining the results of a large and long observational study that importantly has a dose response effect. Diabetes is caused by oxidative stress and the lack of insulin sensitivity. This is affected by gut bacteria, polyphenols etc. Not just carbohydrates.
The last graph, Chinese fruit consumption is very interesting to me. The x axis is up to just 1 fruit per day, some days 2. That fits nicely into what most people consider a LCHF diet. Probably a similar study into fresh veggie consumption would reveal a similar trend indicating 1 serving of veg and 1 of fruit is sufficient for good health and low mortality. Not the 5-10 that is being pushed upon us. JMO. ( of course their is no data for 5-10 as probably no one in china eats that many.
What kinds of Low Carb Diets can the possibly be using in the Abstract 13226 study? They refer to four, two allegedly LCDs using primarily animal protein sources and two vegetable LCDs. Incredibly only the last one excluded the refined sugar products like soda & candy! It was determined to be favorable…lol. Show us studies where people do true LCDs, eliminating sugars, processed foods, refined wheat products and incorporating wide variety of whole foods in a sensible way. Plus, so many of us are also attentive to our gut biome too, feeding it with fermented foods and fiber. You hardly see a true low carb or Keto devotee who is not tuned into these things and the benefits of regular exercise (walking), and some form of fasting (OMAD, 18/6 etc) and avoiding unhealthy fats & oils. I respect your MedCram presentations but have not lost my ability to see what a health disaster the standard American diet is and how the commercial industrial food processors have put profits over people for the past 50 years.
Please watch the video carefully again, as we are simply looking at the different types of low carbohydrate, diet and certainly not advocating for the typical American diet.
Where's the information about the weights of the people in the study? And how much they exercise? And all the rest of the variables? Many so called scientific studies, like to focus on the one thing that they wish to emphasize, and ignore the rest. Much like Keyes '7 countries study', which intentionally ignored the other 14 countries that he had data for, but left them out of his reports because they didn't support his lipid hypothesis.
It is interesting to see where the data against keto comes from. Not a big believer in determinism being the conclusion of any study though. What works for me works for me, and that would be keto aligned with OMAD. Five years now, totally stable weight and feel like I did thirty years ago. Must be lucky, I guess.
I wish you would look more on keto and low carb for mental illness and also cognitive decline such as dementia. Also for focus and memory in those without age rated cognitive decline. There seems to be good emerging data on this topic.
@Sarah Brome interestingly, there is also evidence that intolerance to particular food, changes to the gut microbiome via diet and chronic inflammation through processed food can all be triggers for various mental illnesses. There's a new health collaboration called Metabolic Mind which may interest you. They're on RU-vid too
Mental health diets are vodoo bs because the diagnostic manual’s nosology doesn’t have a solid backing in biological reality. There are no lab tests for them which means we can’t actually be sure if someone has something or not.
I used to be a T2 diabetic on meds for 10 years. Since I’ve started eating low carb (approx 70 net carbs) my A1c has now gone down to 5.4 without any meds and has been at this level for 4 years. I eat mainly animal proteins and no highly processed foods. The studies presented here are not what I‘m seeing in myself.
No problem with low carb but imagine if your body had access to polyphenols, antioxidants and fiber that would allow your gut microbiome to thrive. That comes from plants and not animals.
@@Medcram Imagine! I was a vegetarian for years, and didn't notice my microbiome jumping for joy. My immune system and digestion are thriving on a much more meat-based plan now.
What about populations that eat mostly animal foods, like Eskimos, that had no diabetes or heart disease until they started eating the Standard American Diet? How does that fit into these theories ?? 🤔
Took long But finally the extreme long term Keto fanatics are coming to their senses Dr Mercola and others have finally realized that carbs are needed and Keto long term is dangerous once that one has lost weight desired. Even Dr Atkins said that years ago. Mediterranean is the best and some healthy carbs vital. Hopefully this puts an end to this Keto cult and craziness
I am wondering what the definition of “low carb” was in the studies. I’ve seen studies that define low carb as less than 100 or 70 or 50 grams. Are there studies out there looking at very low carb (less than 20 grams) and all cause mortality?
No I disagree! 8 years on the carnivore lifestyle here and all of my health makers is phenomenal. Even that I don’t know if all the numbers are correct for optimal or not. But I feel like I don’t age at all nowadays I feel Great! Made it thur 2019-2021 without the need of fighting for toilet tissue 😂. We all need to wake up and know we shouldn’t be having metabolic dis-ease and doctors are only needed for repairing our body(our vessel) just like the mechanic that repaired our car. My opinion of course. But I can’t deny how great I feel changing my eating lifestyle.
Most “low carb” diets are in the150-200 g carb range which is not low carb at all, so we have to throw those studies out. Low carb is < 50 g carbs per day. Also Dr. S.’s statement that meat and fat cause heart disease is pure bunk. The studies he relies on are people eating junk food and the meat gets blamed not the toxic seed oils, sugar and refined carbs.
Thousands of people reporting reversal of diabetes, reduced CAC scores, improved skin, joints and chronic pain all on carnivore/ketovore woe. Can’t argue with results
@@DMWB57 yes his reply clearly shows hia bias. Unfortuately people actually believe what he says and will end up ill through following his advice. These studies are pure propoganda using data from observational studies which should never be used.
Trying to deter people from trying "Low Carb" or carnivore diet using observational studies has not been very successful. The main reason is simply there are those who have become healthier by simply not eating any form of carbohydrates. Science is meant to help us understand things better. However, when science is being used to narrate something, like "plant-based whole food" diet is best for human, reality will definitely slap those parties doing the narration.
It's fine to find studies to "support" your theses, but it is a form of dishonesty. Read more widely Roger. I think your religious views supporting vegetarianism introduces massive bias.
My religious views did not inform my views on diet. I used to eat meat through college. However, as I received an education and began to ask questions the evidence became clear. The science has informed me on diet just as it has on light, fresh air, and many other topics that we talk about. See pinned comment. Hard to argue with real world evidence.
@@Medcram Ones own biases can be hard to detect, as I'm sure you already at least know in theory. Claiming that "the science" has informed you is quite grandiose and uninformed. Like I said, read more widely. On fresh air, sunshine, exercise and sleep you are on target IMHO, so that's something. Stay well Roger. 🙂
@@Turbo2640 Imma Dr. Seheult "fan," but I've called him out for cherry-picking many times. Clean keto reversed two illnesses that I was told by specialist doctors were irreversible. Hats off to him for trying, but he's not there yet. Most of the letter agency's recommendations are laughable. cheers
I always appreciate your factual data driven information. I’m always a little confused on this subject. I’ve always stayed away from processed foods (of course any of us that had the occasional meal with friends might eat things not normally in our diet). People tell me our old diet was animals. But we didn’t live very long back then. I was raised without animal products and still can’t eat much of them. I love greens, oranges, broccoli, I cook organic kale with a little organic olive oil and organic turmeric, pressure cook to break down the fibers for digestion, , squeeze organic lemon over it. I can’t live without my carbs like that. So thank you for yet another great video in a world where all carbs get demonized equally
We didn't live very long back then, because the major things that killed us, were infectious diseases and accidents. One of the biggest problems with post mortem statistics, is that so many death certificates listed the cause of death as 'myocardial infarction', aka 'heart attack', because of course, if their heart didn't stop, they would still be alive. I'm a nurse, and have seen for 50 years people listed as dying from heart attacks, actually having been dying from some other cause, but eventually succumbing to a failing heart because of those contributing factors. Disclaimer: I started working as a volunteer at 14 in an e.r., and learned much from the doctors and nurses that i worked for.
@@d.e.b.b5788 we died of many things. Childbirth, trauma, fear of hospitals, lack of sanitary conditions, nutrient deficiencies. The list is endless. I’m a sturdier of history, besides emergency nursing over many decades. Pasteur invented the germ theory, at the same time Claude Bernard had the terrain theory. Had we listened to Bernard more we would be a healthier population. It’s all about the cellular health and immune system. Germs have alway existed. People die of complications of issues at cellular level. And always will
Back in Paleolithic times you had nothing to stop a simple cut or scrap from killing you. Also our life expectancy rate has increased mostly because the infant mortality rate decreased in the last 100 years
EEEWWWW!!!!! Soda pop is disgusting! Even if I found myself in an alternate universe where high fructose corn syrup is good for one's health, I'd still refuse to drink it. Cherry Coke and all other soda pop products are hazardous to your health. (Caramel coloring is carcinogenic.) You know that it's deplorable when both vegans AND carnivores fully agree that it's unhealthy.
What do you think the significance is of the omega-fat ratio in what we eat? Factory farmed meats are very high in omega 6 and low in 3 (as compared to what would be found naturally). Could this be part of the reason that LCD with high animal fat diets are problematic?
That is an excellent observation and certainly, a confounder in these large, poorly designed, prospective observational studies. They are put together statistically with meta-analysis and then farmed for correlations retrospectively by commercial institutions and companies supplying the university grants. Dr.Ancel Keyes was a food scientist primarily funded by sugars and grain interests. He cherry-picked his studies producing large (for that time) studies that concluded, as he proclaimed, that saturated fat in animals and dairy was producing high cholesterol and was causing increased heart disease, CVD, and deaths in the USA. This report proved to be manipulated, false, and deliberately biased for the commercial interests of sugar, grains, and vegetable/seed oils. He deliberately excluded some parts of his own data which contradicted his conclusion. His theory caused increased CVD and early mortality in the USA for decades. He shamefully worked to destroy the reputation of a UK doctor who dared to disagree with him and proposed the true cause of the increased CVD was the increased consumption of refined carbohydrates. Expert scientists can sometimes be very nasty controlling narcissists. Especially if in Public Health and if they have autocratic power in a bureaucratic organization like Dr. Ancel Keyes. History often repeats itself. Buyer beware. They almost all get their faces on the front of the New York Times.
People are different. Overweight and fighting with all means over 30 years, only LCD worked for me. I am ready to die earlier and be energetic, lightweight, healthy and happy life. Living is making choices and tradeoffs. Carbs are poison to me; from inflammation of all kinds, joints, IBS, acid reflux, muscle and back pain, and weight gain, constant snacking and hunger...my body and I loved them, was addicted to them and they were killing me. Literally. Never again! As Mr. Nagano said," hunger makes you live longer". So, I ignore fake hunger cramps, load on protein, less than 10/20 gr carbs and fats from lean meats and avocados-minimal fat. I increase fat if any cravings show their ugly head: MCT oil, egg yolks, olive oil, bone marrow, brains, fat bombs do the trick. Low carb does not mean to load up on nutritional fat. The point of weight loss is to use the fat accumulated in our fat cells. Nutritional fat helps with slow digestion and satiety. That's been my experience but people are not machines; we are hormonal beings. Exercise, sleep, meditation, social and family relationships or solitude, spirituality, stress levels...are all factors to contend with. These "studies" are useless!
I am not clear what was considered 'animal' protein in these studies, even after looking at them. Do you have any insight on this? Perhaps I missed it. Sometimes 'animal protein' or 'meat' is considered only red meats (but not poultry or fish or dairy etc), sometimes it is anything derived from non-plant or mineral sources (so 'meat' or 'animal protein' would be flesh, milk, eggs, or parts from mammals, fish, crustaceans, shellfish, birds, etc)... and then there are times things are labeled/defined inbetween (which makes accurate comparisons more difficult). Thanks for all you all do!!
The foods they choose depend on the results they want. Usually, they want the meat to look bad, so they choose hotdogs and other processed garbage meat.
I love this channel but I am disappointed in this particular segment. I wish you had taken more time to discuss the differences between grass-fed vs grain-fed red meats, organic vs non-organic, beef vs pork vs poultry vs fish as protein sources, the nutritional deficiencies in many of our grains, the significant differences between LCD's of a decade or two ago and today's. I know there aren't many studies that address many of these issues but to not bring them up in this discussion paints a very skewed picture. There is so much more complexity to this discussion than you provided in this simplified presentation that it is almost worthless.
Keep in mind they are reviewing low-carb, high protein diets. If you read the referenced studies included in this analysis you will note that their definition of low-carb is not the definition of Keto. One study referenced a low-carb mean intake at 169 grams carb/day. The devil is in the details. I would like to see cohort studies on a low-carb (< 30g/day), high fat diet.
@@Medcram Yes but how does a dose response relate to the mentioned distinction, being in ketoses vs not what seems to have a lot of health benefits. With dosages of 169g a day your still on a sugar burning vs fat burning mainly. Since there is a distinct metabolic systemic difference. If you’re on a mainly different system the dose response correlates differently or am I wrong and then how? Not saying there isn’t room to define health in broader system with components like metabolic flexibility the use of non processed Whole Foods as a main factor in health benefits. I understand we need to keep an open mindset.
Okinawans on traditional diet, Ikarians on traditional diet, and people from Nicoya, Nicaragua, on traditional diet, are all on diets that are predominantly (90-100%) fruit and vegetable based; and they are lean, active into old age, healthy, and the longest-lived people in the world. The positive results some people on fatty, high meat diets (some people are so fervent about) are simply the result of moving away from diets high in extremely processed carbohydrates, which NO-ONE promotes as healthy. Note: their diets are not low carbohydrate, for example Ikarian traditional diet is based on potatoes and greens, similarly, the Okinawa traditional diet is based on sweet potatoes and greens, and the Nicoyan's traditional diet is based on squash, corn, and beans.
