I lived my whole life eating almost nothing but high oxalate foods. When I first found out about oxalates and thought they might be the root of my health issues, I stopped eating 90% of those high oxalate foods. But I also learned about not dumping too fast, so I kept tea and black pepper in my diet, and during the first couple of weeks, a handful of almonds or peanuts every few days and a one inch square of dark chocolate. Still, I spent the last 8 months dumping oxalates almost constantly, with 3 or 4 days break every week or so. Just two weeks ago, the huge dumping stopped and I immediately started feeling so much better. I'm still drinking one or two cups of tea a day and use a small amount of black pepper on my eggs. Now, I'm very much hoping my joints can repair and return to normal ROM.
@@lf7065 It tends to change somewhat, but I've begun to notice some patterns. First is pain. My pain starts to increase before a big dump starts, and I feel unmotivated to do much. I tend to dump from my bladder, so I will have some pain in my urethra and my urine tends to spray a bit. I also dump from my eyes, so I'll pick very sharp grit from the corners of my eyes. I might also get some crystals coming from the skin on my forehead or thighs, but that seems to have stopped. For some reason, I'll get one really great night of sleep just before it starts, too, and then have uncomfortable sleep until it stops again. I get a lot of pain in my neck and shoulders and lately, it's been the middle of my back, which never used to hurt at all. Also, this time, my hips and knees are bothering me, and I've rarely had problems in my hips and my knees have been silent for several months. As those darn crystals move around your body, they shred everything they contact.
It's not but influencers will make you jump from one fad diet to another destroying your mind and body in the process. Just don't be an idiot and eat in moderation. Check the ingredient list of everything and avoid the obvious culprits.
Guys, relax! 😄 I hear you. This is only for people whos' bodies are having a bad time with oxalates. I eat _nothing_ but fatty meat & greens with great success. There are other paths to ketosis that are as valid as straight carnivore if your body can work with them.
Thank you for posting this. I was diagnosed with secondary hyper parathyroidism twenty years ago and have just now developed kidney stones. No dr has ever talked to me about oxalates. I just heard about them last week. I am totally overwhelmed as I had been transitioning to a WFPB diet and eating tons of spinach and other high oxalate foods thinking I was doing the right thing. Why aren't more people talking about this?
I had a similar thing, yearsbif kidney stones, arthritis symptoms, saw how many doctors NOT ONE mentioned Oxalates .. Urologists didn't even mention it, it's about making money, they know about it .. But would rather have you visit them 10-15 times untill they disclose "maybe its Oxalates" most are clueless wankers .. Hope you get better soon
@@alexitselentis7904 my Urologist did mention it but I didn't take seriously! Also, Dr Gundry wrote The Plant Paradox years ago and I don't think anyone believed him up until recently!
So glad you found out and can stop the WFPB diet! I was eating a « healthy » vegan diet for 6 years and got many horrible health problems from it. I switched to very low carb high fat animal based diet and feeling SO much better!
They won't tell you what big pharma doesn't want you to know. Now if you haven't look into vaccines and try not to be horrified. There's a generational agenda that depends on our all being sick and dependant on big pharma and our early death. This makes money for the few. It's big business and it's genocide.
This is such a scary topic. My husband has had kidney stones in the past and since going low carb he started having some dumping symptoms. We were ignorant of oxalates so luckily we unknowingly gradually reduced them.
I also had problems with kidneys with kidney stones for ten years and didn't know I was eating wrong healthy foods...juicing greens nuts fruit spinach...etc...
Thank you so much! I am one of those “do everything right” people. I eat all the “healthy” food I can find. My muscle pain got worse and worse until one day my therapist asked me “do you eat a lot of high oxalate food?” I started to eliminate those “super food”. But at the same time I noticed the information about “oxalate dump”. Thank you for doing this education!
Thank you Elliot! Your presentation help my skin problem is caused by the oxalate dumping. I never know my diet can cause oxalate, spinach, nuts, specially almond milk and soy milk. I had 20 doctor's visits and was told that my skin problem is not related with diet, after two years treatment, my problem hasn't got any progress. A year ago, I have learned you and Sally's presentation and stop my oxalate diet and my situation is getting better, my doctor said keep going what I am doing now and they still can't tell me what's cause my problem. I appreciate your presentation and Thank you again!
may i ask how are you doing now? are you still on low oxolates? I have only just discovered this topic. I too ate a lot of spinach and have eczema and joint pain. how long did it take to heal? Thank you in advance!
Omggg..! I wish I found this video before I started the carnivore diet back in July 4th. I started over night . One week after I started I had trouble with taking a deep Breath n to cough. Went to the ER n make story short…Cat scan result was my left lung had deflated slightly with mucous in the fold n start of Pneumonia. Gave me antibiotics for 2 weeks n took 6 weeks to recover. The thing was I had lung congestion for over 10 years n had been taking Mucinex for over 10 years. After I left the hospital.. I am no longer taking Mucinex. Also in about the 2nd month into Carnivore I started Oxalate dumping. I started itching here n there n then both my calves started itching everyday for almost 1month. Now I still itch every now n then but not so bad
I am reading your comment now and looking for causes of my vertigo. Someone suggested to try the ear Eplei test and it did go away but I also feel some undesirable accumulation on my chest, head.. I am in my 14th day of pure carnivore diet. I felt better during the first one. Do you do the gradually oxalate elimination during the carnivore? Thanks!
I follow a mostly ketogenic/low carb lifestyle since years, so I think in my case there has been a gradual reduction of oxalytes by chance. I recently saw that avocados are high in oxalates...so I do not eat as much as I used to and certainly not a whole one a day. I find I am moving more to keto/carnivore and this 'feels' like a good fit for me. I don't feel restricted in my food choices but have no problem eating foods that are out of the norm for me when invited out to friends. I've just recently been interested in the oxalate subject and listened to your podcast. Thank you for your work!
Dang. This might be why keto didn’t work for me 5 years ago. I was having like 2 avocados a day or more. Now I have about 3 a week. But I should probably cut them all out. Thanks for this!
@@jenlonis3170Wow! I was eating avocado a day with sea salt and lemon...it's been a year since I had an avocado and I don't miss them...didn't know then that they were high in oxalates.
For several years, I have been eating the same "super healthy" breakfast, changing some ingredients in and out by experimentation: steel cut oats, quinoa, chard, spinach, chia, flaxseed, maca, pumpkin pie spice blend; accompanied by a quart of mocha: coffee, unsweetened almond milk, Guittard cocoa, and a pinch of unrefined ground stevia leaf. Accounting for oxalates, my daily breakfast of champions it turning me into a sack of crystaline calcium oxalate. Small wonder I have struggled to identify sources and eliminate some of the symptoms. It took me more than 40 years to figure out that I have always had an allium sensitivity because it's nearly ubiquitous in food and comorbidities, or medications for which, happen to produce the same symptoms. It seems like quite a challenge to responsibly replace high-oxalate food; but in truth, the recommended ramping down will probably be the easiest method, given that reducing or eliminating one thing at a time is a sustainable pace-I know from experience trying to modify habits and routines, difficult for an ADHD space case like me, that mastering one change at a time works best.
Excellent information on oxalate I've been on low Oxalates diet for about 18 mo. and been through many dumping cycles. Finding accurate food list is essential. Thanks for all the great information.
@@bekakhutchua3527 Elloit gave a couple of sites that I haven't checked out yet. Sally K Norton's website has a beginners or intro level food list. She's is going to have a more extensive food list coming soon. But what Elliot said about slowly lowering your oxalate level is excellent advice. Everyone is different and going no oxalate or cold turkey can get you in big trouble.
I removed the oxalate plant based completely once I found out the root cause of my hypothyroidism, increased in kidney stones, bloating, and abdominal pain. I went on carnivore diet, I feel immediately better within three days. It takes a year to completely remove oxalate. I also eat high calcium rich foods and drink lemon or lime juice with ACV to help remove oxalate faster.
Thank you Elliott! Found you and Sally after issues with carnivore. Getting info from Dr Elizabeth Bright too but she is addressing 'fat is energy and your medicine but still helpful. Thank you for helping us. Tried so many things over the past 30 years that I thought were healthy and I think this will finally help me.
@@sinatra617 Severe constipation and a few bouts of severe chilling and pain in kidney area. Think I may have been passing small kidney stones. Now I eat more fat and squeeze lemon juice in water.
Thank you for this. Exactly what I needed to know. Been watching your channel for over a year now. You're a brilliant man. You helped me understand alot, especially about my nervous system and methylation.
Thank you very much dear 😇... I didn't know what to do anymore. I was frustrated. I thought I was eating healthy. I ate an organic vegan diet and the symptoms only got worse...what a relief to know it was the oxalate. Now I can finally fix and adjust my diet and gradually reduce the consumption of foods rich in it. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart. Although the process just begin for me with cleansing the body. knowing that I found the solution already makes me feel wonderful ❤
I used a large downloaded oxalate content list and kept an oxalate intake diary for the first month after I passed a kidney stone. I found that just by not eating potatoes, nuts, spinach, beans, and rhubarb I was eating under 50 mg of oxalate per day. Most days, I was under 25 mg! I did switch from brewed iced tea to instant iced tea, and I can't handle chocolate, so the low oxalate diet is really easy for me. Eating only low oxalate foods is difficult, but staying under 50 mg is really quite easy.
@@saszablaze1 I'm not sure that's true: Brewed tea is high in oxalates, but instant tea has none. The process of producing instant tea destroys or removes the oxalates. That involves a lot of heat. NIH has a paper on cooking to remove oxalates. Boiling and then discarding the water is very effective.
Hi, A few things which you haven't mentioned in this video I was wondering what you think, basically want to get your thoughts on ways to mitigate the damages caused by eating foods which contain oxalates. I have researched some options. Please let me know how viable and effective each of them are: 1. Increase calcium intake - Calcium binds to oxaltes during digestion 2. Ingest lemon juice or apple cider vinegar which seems to dissipate a effect of great quantity of citrates which in turn increases the excretion of oxalates (unsure if the effect is just limited to kidney stones or not?) 3. Consume yoghurt and kefir to increase levels of Oxalobacter formigenes in the gut which uses oxalate as an energy source. This significantly reduces the amount of oxalate your body absorbs (apparently).
Calcium should noyt be taken without right ratio Magnesium. In fact MG may have the same effect as calcium with out the risk to the heart. Most people have enough calcium in the diet but not Mg. Suggest you do a hair analysis to find out what your mineral levels are - I did and was shocked! Now got that right, and that a huge help. Hope this helps - we are all different, so go with what suits you. Your tips 2 and 3 helpful - thanks
@@carolynellis387 no I’m in Oregon, so your market will be totally different. The best would be home made or local organic goat milk kefir, raw would be the best. But I can’t get raw or organic, and I don’t have local goat milk or time to make my own. So I just get goat milk kefir from the store. Don’t drink a lot at first, let your body get used to it over time. Work your way up to 2 or 3 cups a day on the higher end. Definitely have it before bed, as it helps you sleep. This has wayyyy more probiotics then yogurt.
Thank you , Best information ever on how to begin lowering oxalates. I have learned that a sensible balanced diet works well. There are many low oxalate food choices.
This was very helpfully. Thanks. Finally someone who shows numbers which gives somewhatof an idea...I'm shocked and sad how much I trashed my body with chocolate thinking the dark one is better because it has less sugar. I was like you, glutenfree for years..eating all this trash. I love my eggs and meat now and I'm glad to have found the carnivore community
But you aren’t trashing your body if you dont have an issue excreting oxolates normally, and dark chocolate is inherently ‘better’ because of its increased antioxidants. If you don’t have an issue with oxolates, a carnivore diet does not actually address the root cause which is your body’s poor ability to metabolise these compounds, so you’re needlessly removing healthy foods that your body and gut needs to thrive, for fat and protein, animal proteins being correlated which all major causes of mortality and deficiency of fiber, which your microbiome feeds on. I know the carnivore community don’t want to hear it as they like to be told eating the most unhealthy and unsustainable foods is actually the most natural diet, our ancestors and biology and the majority of studies on diet disagrees which you may of course believe is somehow propaganda. You can’t deny or ignore the fact the the longest living populations consume a wide array of plant foods with minimal if any animal products, the exception being fish for omega 3 which unfortunately is incredibly unsustainable and a common source of heavy metals. I urge people not to get caught up in something like this as you’re replacing one problem in the short term with bigger problems and malnutrition in the long term. And that’s without noticing those pushing the carnivore diet are often found to be fraudulent, such as the liver king recently, and are simply making money by selling an idea with zero evidence to support it. People are going to do what they want but it’s important to think clearly and logically about it.
@pcaul I can't believe I just read that. Fabulous comment 👌 I totally agree speaking from experience. I was almost carnivore for almost 2 years, for other reasons than oxalates and I dreaded every part of it. Meat keeps you full, but it doesn't give you energy, sharpness or will do to do anything. However, I couldn't find anything on the Internet about how to make the oxalates less of a problem.
@@a.b.7457 From what I’ve read there are certain gut bacteria that make oxalates less problematic. Specifically Oxalobacter, but also certain strains of Bifido and Lactobacillus. A significant percentage of the population has Oxalobacter colonized in their gut and they don’t seem to have a problem regulating oxalates from their diet as these bacteria break it down. Unfortunately many of us (the majority) have lost this species due to antibiotic use and whatever other environmental factors damage the gut. Unfortunately there isn’t currently an Oxalobacter probiotic on the market to replace this valuable species. I suppose eating fermented foods and perhaps supplementing with a good probiotic can help. I’m curious as to whether goats milk or sheep’s milk might have the Oxalobacter but I would think it would have to be raw and then there’s other risks and it can be hard to get. Beyond that, I’ve heard consuming calcium rich foods along side oxalate foods can limit absorption (maybe that’s why fruit and cheese are often served together). Also making sure you drink enough water so the oxalates that are absorbed are flushed through the kidneys better. Lemon water and apple cider also seem to help but I’d be careful not to overdo that either.
I know this is important, but I also can't help thinking that something else in nature must relieve this problem. That's usually the way it is - and ancient cultures seemed to know this kind of stuff. It would be interesting to look at the history of people eating these foods, and how they prepared them.
Read any legitimate source on medieval ages. People back then never ate greens because they considered them poison. They were eating mostly meat and bread. Only the poor were eating probably similar to our diet (whatever they could eat to survive) So basically people from 1300 ate better than us today.the problem was the medical practice was quiet bad. Also later they had zero knowledge on sugar so they loved it but had rotten teeth.
Almost every ancient dietary system from TCM to Ayurveda indirectly warns against oxalates. Salads were practically unheard of until the 1950s. Seriously, look at menus from before then.
@@EPICSOUNDTRAX What about fruits? Fruits seem like the ultimate most natural thing to eat, as they are fully ready for human consumption off of a tree.
Fruits and veggies were not available out of season way back then - so people naturally ‘detoxed’ from any overload. Nowadays we get endless supply of fruit n veggies from other countries.
Amazing video and a great layout of the information! Will definitely try to integrate this into my eating habits, although dropping the chocolate is going to be a massive struggle but lets do this!
Dropping the chocolate is SOOOO hard. I've been mostly carnivore for 2 years, but still couldn't give up macadamia nuts and dark chocolate. Plus I was eating 80% dark (0.5 to 1.5 bars a day habit) and it wrecked my sleep. I also have followed Dr Elizabeth Bright and started eating a stick of butter a day, about 2 weeks ago. The added fat helped me ditch the chocolate!
Spinach is my favorite vegetable. At times, when my eyes tear, it feels like acid is coming out of my eyes. Now I know why. Thank you for your excellent work, Elliot! Just recently found your channel. Fascinating! Started working with B1 recently.
I would switch to bok choy steam bok choy is just as good in flavor as spinach... And they have baby bok choy now pre-washed three times I get at the natural grocers
I'm glad I listened to this thankyou. I think the same can be said regarding gout and water i.e. sudden changes in diet/water intake etc. Anything too sudden just makes things 10x worse in my experience.
I’m unfortunately being exposed to toxic mold again which has triggered so many things in my body and I’m realizing I was eating so many (majority) high Oxalate foods thinking it’ll help me heal until I move but I’ve actually been getting worse. Finally remembered from my first exposure that I need to avoid Oxalates as much as I can. I had full body neuropathy for a few days which was so scary and seeing that this can cause neuropathy makes so much sense because it has since gone away since I removed the foods
I have mold toxicity from a house i lived in years back, im not living there anymore but i started drinking green smoothies at least 4-5 times a week a few years back and over the last 18 months have been experiencing horrible neuropathy that’s has taken over my legs and is starting in my hands now along with chronic joint pain! I have been to countless doctors appointments over the last year and they never tell me anything, their main focus is to medicate it you rather then fixing the problem! About a month ago i read that green smoothies could cause neuropathy due to thallium levels but i had that checked and it came back normal i guess my question is how did you nail it down that it was from the high oxalate foods? I just want my life back and all the doctors around here are a joke and don’t care about getting to the root cause! Any information would be greatly appreciated
Install an MVHR unit in your house /apartment ,now/… don’t wait. You will be free of mould in no time Plus if you wash your clothes, do not drive them indoors and them out on the line outside to dry 😊
Thanks Elliot, your videos are great! Can you do a video on paradoxical reactions to thiamine and sulfur supplements- and how really sensitive people can get up to a high does of thiamine?
Thank you so much Elliot for a very detailed info. I'm from Australia and I'm thinking of starting Carnivore Diet in the New Year, 2023. I've been doing a lot of research lately in regards to Carnivore Diet and I came accross Oxalates that one of the RU-vidr's mentioned and I have never heard about Oxalates which was associated with food or what the name Oxalate means. Please keep up the good work so we may be more educated in a future healthy living.
I find it to be quite insane how ill I became and for how long it has endured…over a decade now. What a hellish journey, challenge and life lesson. Thank God I never fell for any of the system’s surgical suggestions or toxic pharmaceutical interventions. Thank you so much for helping to bring light to such darkness. Can you please do a video about the evils of black tea. This is my family’s curse. It took me soo long to wake up to that fact
I’m not eliminating my 25g of 85% dark chocolate after dinner routine. Looks like I’ll be around 45-50mg of oxalate from the chocolate alone. However, eating mainly carnivore, my average daily oxalate consumption should be considered low. I will occasionally eat avocados, onions, and mushrooms. This isn’t a priority for me, so I’ll probably be ok
Changing my life from living in rich Canada and then suddenly going to poor St.Martin Caribbean island forced me to go cold turkey oxalate free diet i was sick for 9 months. The thyroid gland was hit really hard. I am absolutely fine now but i will stick to mostly eating meat.after returning to Canada never felt the need to eat the greens and the foods in the rich oxalate chart.
Rich Canada? Poor St Martin? look in Toronto people sleeping under the bridges, Your Police chief said leave the car keys by the front door. Look at yoru PM. Rich Canada? nobodt can't afford anything there. How is your health care?
@@BainsPummy I left St.Martin 2 years ago and things got really expensive back then.cannot imagine how it is today when the french economy is in the gutter . Yes,that island is dirt poor. Rents are astronomical ,high crime ,and low salaries. The french exploit local people to the max. It does not work soending even a day there. Lived there for almost 1 year. Still regret it but at least i know the truth about the Carribean islands .it is all a lie.
Really helpful video! I have been carnivore for about 6 weeks and developed a skin rash on my arm yesterday and today my eyes are red and burning like crazy. I will be implementing some of your recommendations. Thank you!
Just started on the carnivore diet, trying to eat only meat & fats. I’m suffering from constant diarrhea. This video explains oxalate dumping & how to slow it down. I’m so grateful. Will watch all of your other videos. Thank you Elliott.
It's common when we start off carnivore. It should stop, but if a month in, you still experience chronic diarrhea then cut a little bit of your fat intake. If you have too much fat than your body burns off, it will remove it through your stool. If you are constipated you will up your fat. And good stools equal a good fat/protein ratio for you
You might try transitioning to carnivore with a ketovore diet. It's a hybrid of keto and carnivore, basically carnivore with some no/low carb non animal foods.
Thanks for the comprehensive and informative content Elliot. For someone looking to transition from a high oxalate diet to a carnivore diet wouldn't the simplest way be to start eating a strict carnivore diet but then supplementing this with a single high oxalate plant food, such as almonds, making it easier to calculate how much oxalate you need to consume to make the transition safer. You can then just reduce the almonds by 5-10% each week until you each the desired low level?
I hope you get a reply for this because I was thinking the same. I love simplicity and since dumping oxalates while carnivore now I have to Think about what to eat. Anyway, this is what I will be doing so that grocery shopping is easy and I keep carbs low - have very small amount of high OXALATE foods - but first is figure out the biggest triggers for me because everyone’s body is different. And get the recommended vitamins and supplements to ease the dumping effects.
Thanks for sharing such practical information Elliot 👍 I was getting sharp needle like pain in my eyes. This is so much better now I’ve stopping eating yukky oxalates!!
I just discovered my oxalate risks following my first bout with kidney stones at age 70. Thanks for this video. I have likely been trying to dump my oxalate consumption too quickly. My frustration in this area is that my urologist has very little regard for dietary management, and in searching out my own information, I find quite significant discrepancies between the published oxalate lists, likely based on unspecified differences in plant varieties.
What about incorporating StoneBreaker into ones supplement regimen? It does seem to help me feel better. Thank you for your video. Going to go back and take snapshots of some of the pages.
Great content! I have a question about the common tactics of removing oxalate from the food before eating them: boiling in water and eating fruits rich in citrate. I've always heard that if you boil sweet potato in water until it becomes very soft, most of oxalate will be lost to the water, for it is water soluble. Also, if you eat citric fruits like tangerines or drink a lemon squeezed in the water after or together with a meal with oxalate, the citric acid in these fruits would combine with the oxalate, avoiding its connection with calcium and therefore the formation of calcium oxalate. Is this information true? Does boiling and citric fruits work preventing oxalate intoxication?
There's a difference between destroying a molecule with heat versus removing a molecule by making it accessible to whisk away with water. We do the latter when cooking beans in order to remove some of the compounds that cause gas and bloating. I believe that @marciac.6287's question was about the efficacy of the latter. Does the long time cooking in water required for sweet potatoes, (a) amount to a significant reduction in oxalate content to warrant the effort, (b) vis-à-vis the reduction in vitamins destroyed by heat? In other words, are there enough nutrients left in the sweet potatoes, and sufficient oxalates removed, in order that we may consider some preparations safe enough to consume them now and then? I do love sweet potato.
Well Dr this is great stuff,so it seems like the only foods that are oxalate and lectin free are beef ,butter, bacon and eggs, so CARNIVORE diet it is!!❤ Thanks!!😊
Thats too much work, and honestly most people don't have that level of self control - myself included. I've been on and off keto for over two years now so I'm sure my oxalate levels are high. I am SLOWLYYYY transitioning to a Ketovore type diet, though I'm sure I'll fall off of that occasional too and then I'll transitioned to Carnivore- if the government hasn't outlawed red meat by then. This is a whole new area of study for me. I'm sure I am currently experiencing some discomfort from oxalates and never knew why till now. Thank you!
Hi. Thank you so much for the critical education. It really helps! How do I know that after a low Oxalate diet, I'm clean enough? In 'clean enough' I mean that the remaining health issues now are not related to Oxalate anymore
A lot of content spoken very quickly. If you go to the settings you can actually slow his speech down a little bit at a time until you find the right speed for you; so you can absorb it better or can absorb the content better and write it down if you wish. And it does not distort his speaking.
My crystals showed up in a ct and then a pet scan. I went all anti- inflammatory keto diet and the crystals doubled in a yr on ct in lung and they are in my organs. I now switched cold Turkey to carnivore and the crystals are coming out my skin. I am talking to an expert in ny and will visit this yr as my drs don’t know the cause of the crystals and they came out of no where - but I did have a kidney stone before it started
I just tuned in out of curiosity as I'd never heard of this before. Every list I looked at has very little, to nothing, that I eat. I'm diabetic, and recently diagnosed with alpha-gal syndrome, so studying up on my nutrition again since my dietary restrictions have changed again. Very interesting subject. The thiamine caught my eye since I do take a B1 tablet once a day.
Great info, great presentation! Thank you!! Ugh I’m so worn out with protocols… I tried just going carnivore and I did get super exhausted and noticed my eyes were itchy and sandy and so was my nose, which I’ve since heard is one of the ways oxalates leave the body. 😑 I’ve been paleo for 20+ years and have followed a lot of principles of an anti inflammatory diet so I haven’t been super high oxalate.
Hey Elliot, thank you for this great video! Just wanted to know if you have a link for the video you mention around min 9 regarding the supplements, etc, to ease the oxalates dumping process. Thanks again!
Thank you for continuing to put out content on oxalates. Any ideas on how to not kill myself going cold turkey or full carnivore are much appreciated. And yes I've done both. Not good!
If you are suffering from health issues caused by oxalates isn’t it worth suffering the effects of dumping to become symptom free as quickly as possible? Particularly if the crystals are causing permanent tissue damage. Short term discomfort (which you already have) for faster relief?
That was exactly how I felt. This is the first time I’ve seen anyone with similar thoughts. My dumping is getting better… it was EXTREME in the beginning. I have had both my gallbladder removed and gastric bypass surgery, both surgeries can cause more dumping for the patient. On the road. Mostly carnivore. Best of health!
They say you can’t remove it from the body fast enough so it can get reabsorbed elsewhere and cause more damage. Sally Norton said (in one of her videos), for some women it deposited in breast tissue and lead to cancer.
@@cathyann6835 ‘They’ also say it can leave the body so fast that it leaves residue on the skin. That would contradict the idea it’s re-absorbed. The trouble is not enough good evidence (studies). I guess she’s referencing the Castellaro study with the breast cancer comment. The findings where certainly interesting, there where two main conclusions (it was kind of two studies in one) but neither where ‘oxalates lead to breast cancer for some women’.
Love your videos about oxalates! I just want to say that macadamias are not very high. It's the nut with the lowest amount of oxalates. And if you stick to an ounce you'll get about 10 mg. Also, oranges aren't very high. Orange juice has repeatedly tested as very low oxalate. Mandarine is on the moderate list here but it's way higher than oranges though. This information is from Sally K Norton.🌞🌺
Regarding the following items, do you know if they are likely to be high - or else low - in Oxalates? Thanks. 1) Moringa -- a weight loss and energy supplement, taken in the form of a powder shaken up with liquid drink, in hopes of various health benefits. I'm particularly interested in the powdered form (ready to put in a shake drink, etc.) Someone I care about consumes this stuff daily, and I'd like to be able to share with her about its oxalates content. 2) wheat grass shots -- a green drink, favored by raw food enthusiasts, made by putting 'wheat grass' into a juicer. 3) rooibos tea -- a caffeine-free alternative to green tea. It is said to have high levels of antioxidants. It might be in the category of Herbal Tea, however I'm wondering if it has been measured in particular. Many health benefits are listed for it, including helping with getting more sleep. 🙂
I heard about Carnivore way of eating in June and went straight to full carnivore. It wasn't until about 2 or 3 months that I heard about oxalates from Elliot and Sally being interviewed. I used to drink cobalamin tonic coffees with cacao daily. I have lost over 20kg in 5 months. I have not knowingly experienced oxalate dumping.
@@urtyp6596 easy for me. I had already changed my way of eating the month before and was doing a detoxing protocol with copper. I found milk was my sugar substitute in the first week and then I gave that up as it backed me up. Just had my bacon and eggs and enjoy the satiation from eating this way.
My problem with reducing oxalates in my diet is that I'm not in the habit of eating any one type of food all the time. If I'm not supposed to eat chocolate, then I just won't eat it. There is no reducing my intake if I eat food sporadically. I might go a month without eating sweet potato, maybe longer so i'm not able to reduce when it's so sporadical. There's only one type of food that I eat on a semi regular basis and that's maybe three times a week and that's spinach that I can slowly take out. All of the other foods on the list, if I feel like putting in the recipe, I just won't.
Doing a calculation seems too complex. I don't always eat the same foods day to day or week to week so it would be really hard to come up with an accurate number, although clearly I was on a very high oxalate diet (black tea, cassava flour, almonds, dark chocolate). After 2 days of removing most oxalate from my diet I started not feeling well, so I added some high and moderate oxalate foods back in and the next day (potatoes, bananas, black tea) felt better. I will look at the websites mentioned to get more info.
I do appreciate your info , dealling with all sort of things now , are you putting your videos into a high speed ? more than normal , as its not very convinient and pleasant to listen to info like that bombarding our brain , I appreciat if you do a normal talk speed , thank ,
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People who develop kidney stones do not necessarily consume more oxalates than those who do not. They are genetically predisposed to higher absorption in their intestines, a trait known as being "super absorbers." Oxalates do not only come from diet, bodies internally produce oxalates as a waste product. Higher fruit and veggie consumption is associated with a lower incidence of kidney stones due to alkalizing effect. Meat, rich in sulfuric amino acids (methionine and cysteine), has an acidifying effect. A daily can of tuna can increase kidney stone risk by 250%. Maintaining a healthy microflora, particularly the oxalate-eating bacteria Oxalobacter, is also crucial. Prolonged antibiotic use can damage the microflora and eliminate Oxalobacter. Additionally, there are many greens with low oxalate content.
I am in excruciating pain everyday for the past two years and almost three months. I was already strictly doing the carnivore diet for almost two years when one day I woke up and couldn't get out of bed bc., of the pain and swollen body. The doctors still don't know what is wrong with me (they were treating me for rhuematoid arthritis but, I test negative so, I got off the prednisone and stopped seeing that doctor) except now, I have a 5 mm kidney stone and osteoporosis and plaque in my arteries to my heart. I've been following you for a while and I think this is what is going on with me. I am trying to understand this but, it's so complicated bc., I am confused as to why I'd get it while doing carnivore. I found this research on line about O. fromigenes a probiotic that is supposed to help with oxalates and found it on Ebay, I'm waiting for it now. I think you are the best at explaining everything, and I appreciate you sharing all you know to help people.
When you say you are eating carnivore - what does that include- just meat ? or other things like bacon/eggs etc... maybe you are reacting to the bacon/eggs they are fed lots of sprayed grains (I can't eat them)
Excellent Elliot. Would excrutiating and incapacitating lower back pain and stomach/intestine pain and turbulence be caused by dumping, or just the presence of oxalates?
I have had diarrhea since starting the carnivore diet. I watched a vid somewhere and they said to do the dark chocolate test, I did and the diarrhea stopped for the day. Woke up the next morning diarrhea still happening. Can't remember what the next step is. Trying to figure out if it is oxalate or to much bile. I have been on carnivore 1 month.
Thank you for this video. I made the decision not to join Facebook many years ago. I’m UK in Devon. Does the Group, TLO have any info I can get online without using Facebook.
OMG... brain explosion! (metaphorically speaking!) I spent a few days watching EONutrition videos on Thiamine. A LOT of note taking. Struggled to understand w/ long term brain fog, exhaustion, etc. But I got it, I think. THIS IS GREAT! It makes sense. THEN I come across oxalates. Can I slowly dump oxalates while going through the thiamine protocol? Again, brain fog. Here's my situation- 3 yrs ago- new neighbors from hell = long term sleep deprivation = massive caffeine intake to function = developed serious coke addiction (COLA!) = chronic diarhea, hair loss, chest pains, a few TIAs, candida, and muscle loss = barely functioning, exhausted. My fear is the day I can't get out of bed. I have a dog that depends on me. And, no health insurance, no doctor. So... I feel like I'm playing "beat the clock" with reversing damage before I get to that point. So, back to my inquiry... (repeat- brain fog)... can I do the thiamine protocol while slowly lowering oxalates? Oh, background- 64 yrs old, female, standard American diet, smoker. I feel like I was picked up out of my life in dropped into a life unrecognizable. In about a week, I suspect there will be a camera crew at my door... "On the next addition of hoarders...". (Not really THAT bad). No energy. OENutrition videos gives me hope. Thank you!
It's cofusing the food list. One list says kale is high another lists it as low oxalate. Macademia nuts one says low one says high. Celery low in some lists high in another. Please help me out
This would be so much more helpful if these measurements were in a method that I would actually be using and therefore able to understand what these quantities are.
I did that because I was feeling like such shit and I thought it would counteract or counterbalance and it did the complete opposite. It just made everything flare back up and then I was in worse condition than I was before instead of just going through the detox, cold turkey this is why you’ve got to be careful with RU-vid videos and information because there’s so much miss information, and everyone has different views, opinions I really think this is all just kinda differ from each person and how their body is going to handle her react to it, and then that’s gonna be up to the individual to trust and listen to their body and do it the way that feels best to them
Thank you so much for the info unfortunately i am suffering a little now since i went bbbe (dr Berry) immediately for 4 months but have brought back some veg after hearing about this. Great video
Spinach sent me to the ER a bunch of years ago with a urinary tract stone. Never had them ever again! Now I'm afraid I need to work on my almond (and nuts in general) intake, as well as other stuff like tea. Sigh.
Is this also a problem for dogs and cats? My dog eats buckwheat hot cereal with me almost every morning and I used to feed my old dogs lots of quinoa every day and also sweet potato thinking I was keeping them healthy.
I'm really on the fence with cacao due to such conflicting data. It is pretty low for a high oxalate food, less than sweet potato. Are there reputable batch tests to confirm whether or not fermentation of the beans and then low temp roasting reduces oxalate content? I can imagine it's more convaluted than we think, just like coffee. If I could keep chocolate in my diet I'd like to do that as I've just cut out coconut and it's the only plant left in my diet apart from herbal teas and extracts
Yes, i was addicted to eating 100% org chocolate bars, etc etc… but now trying to have low oxalate diet, thought I’d heard coconut /coconut milk was safe!!! Are you sure it’s not? Couldn’t find it listed on the 6 column list either Elliot or Sally gave.. 😫
