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Great perspective!!! I was happy when they hired Coach O! He was already a top recruiter, and I knew he would give his all and do whatever it takes to bring back the prominence of Saturday Night in Death Valley!!!!
He takes advantage of their hubris, he appears to be dimwitted, he appears to be a loveable muck. Kinda like a python, and a rabbit, the rabbit thinks the python is slow, it slithers slowly, and when it's at striking distance, the rabbit finds out how fast the python really is, and then it's too late for the rabbit.
@@seandickson4915 I was unenthusiastic about it when they hired coach O, and I've never felt so validated in an opinion than when he stood on Matt Canada and lost to Troy... But, it seems that was a one time mistake, and things are turning in a good direction. Ensminger is my only concern now. He has coached as OC against Saban 3 times and never scored a point.... strange hire
He has surrounded himself with good coaches. He has always been known as one of the greatest recruiters of all time He identifies what needs to be changed and works towards changing that Thats a good CEO type of head coach. I hope O is at LSU for years and he wins a few rings.
@@zichragland8880 what part was false? He's always been amazing recruiting wise, he brought in ALL the recruits at Ole Miss who stopped that Florida team from going undefeated, he's changed LSUs offense for the better, and he has just stepped away and let his other coaches coach.
Zich Ragland delirious of what? He has always been a great recruiter. Ed Orgeron is the reason Miami in the 90s was so good. He was their main recruiter. He is the reason USC was so good when they had Reggie Bush he was the main recruiter there He is the reason Ole Miss was good for that small period when they was beating Alabama and pulling in top classes And now at LSU he is pulling in top 5 classes and getting LSU on the right track
@@cruorem5775 he wasn't the recruiter at Ole Miss when they were beating Alabama at least not a few years ago in like 2015 and stuff, that was Hugh Freeze being the head coach and bringing in loads of talent, but like I said earlier he brought in all those recruits that beat that Florida team who won the chip that year
Cruorem Alabama offered Coach Orgeron $300,000.00 to be a recruiting coach the year he started coaching at LSU with the defensive line, Bama also offered fired special teams coach Bradley Dale Peveto $150,000 to be a recruiting coach after LSU fired him. Coach Orgeron has always been know as a great recruiting coach.
Orgeron knew from the beginning that the LSU offense had to be modernized, which is why he brought in Matt Canada as OC. He also had enough sense to realize Canada was not the answer and eventually did find the perfect fit in Brady.
We here at USC knew that Ed was the guy. Ed was always the guy. He built some great DL's at USC, fired up the defense, and fired up the team. He was the glue that kept it all together. A tremendous recruiter also. We had stud defenders lined up to come play for Coach O. Biggest mistake ever at USC was not giving O the job. Now we're stuck with Helton. What a tragedy.
Anthony Hicks My cousin, who is an SC Alumnus, and I felt the same way. After he took over from Lane Kiffin, who was fired mid season, Coach Orgeron went 6-2 as an interim coach with an off-season ahead to start molding the team that he wanted, except then Athletic Director Pat Haden dropped him and wouldn’t even let him coach in the postseason bowl game. The rest is history.
O can recruit and recruit at a high level,always could so you can be the best coach in the world and if you can't recruit you won't make it in college football, nick saban is a good coach but he's a great recruiter, i think he's a better recruiter than he is a coach lol if he could coach he would still be at Miami, coach O could coach anywhere lol hire good people and get out the way lol i wonder how much money teams are going to throw at Joe Brady next year smh
I am...great game. Bama made too many mistakes and LSU capitalized on them. The officials were hideous but we were beat by a better team in LSU, and I like coach O, he is the perfect coach for the Bengals. LSU'S future looks bright. I hope the natty stays in the SEC...ALWAYS! Roll Tide 4ever. & LSU...REPRESENT
@Headless Horseman Idk. LSU is legit. Longhorn here. They are for real. Their o line is the only glaring weakness. If we hadnt brought the house on a 3rd and 17, we coulda won that game. Thats neither here nor there. They can jump up and bite anyone. Hang with the big boys for sure. Idk if id put em 3 or 4... But they are definitely more complete than OU. More complete than georgia too.
@RJ Maddawg Dude. Your history lesson is just that. History. Low 20s-mid30s is what ksu, ttu, iowa state put on people. Ou, texas, osu, (some years ttu) throw 50 at the scoreboard. You are playing the ol "we got a better running back and line so well just shove it down your throat" ball. You see how well that worked out for bama vs clemson last year. Whoops. Was that a sore spot? That "prolific" georgia offense got DESYROYED by Texas last year. What you dont understand, is if you score in a minute (or 3-out in a minute)...you get the ball like 15 times each a game. You guys are just playin gramps ball over there. And doing that, will not prepare you for the clemsons/Ous/Texas'(pre 2012 and recently)/and now atms and lsus of the world. But we will still line up and punch you in the mouth. See, you are saying "my way is best, look at the stats". Which, is exactly what I am also saying. Except we can play a slow game ...can you play a fast one? You are living in the past, my friend. Edit: furthermore, you made my point with urban meyer and spurrier. Both bought in to at least a PART of the spread system. See, were saying the same thing. You just dont understand my point. I fully understand yours. Cheers.
I’m very glad I was recommended this video. Your insight into what Coach O has done with LSU is spot on. I just subbed so now I’m gonna binge watch your other videos and GEAUX TIGASSS 💯
Coach O is the best.As good as any Coach in CFB .Hes also very good at recognizing and evaluating players stregths. He knew that Devon White had right size and speed to impact as a LB .Took him from second string running back to 1st round pick as a LB. When you can steer people to success. It's a unique gift
You know I’ve heard a lot of people down Coach O, but I have always believed in this guy. I started believing the first game he took over at LSU when they took on (and badly beat) Missouri. The way the players took the field and played their guts out for Coach O was an amazing thing to watch! Geaux Tigers!!
The best leaders are the guys that surround themselves with great guys and then give them direction and then turn them loose. I was wrong about Coach O and can’t be happier admitting it. Most underrated trait of great coaches is instincts. Coach O seems to have that in spades. Throw in his ability to motivate and you have something special. This was a special team and a incredible year!
NEVER underestimate the intelligence of a Cajun man. They can out fish, out hunt and out game play most people. Coach O's coaching experience is STELLAR!! He's coached brilliantly at the assistant coach level and while his Ol Miss stint didn't work, he learned a lot from it. With this mastery, Coach O has worked ahead of the curve and has utilized his network connections from all his stops to create this Tiger juggernaut. Oh, yeah and last Saturday night, the Tigers did a Bama beat down and won 46-41. There were many of us in LA who knew Coach O would be a great hire and turn the program around. And Saturday was the official power shift in the SEC West proved us right!!! Geaux Tigers!!!
that is exactly what happen at USC and why the let him go, they said all he did was hire good people and that's how they won. Well look at USC now, Coach O was too dumb to be a head coach but now LSU is LSU, and USC is also ran middle of the pack. Good for Coach O. Thanks for pointing it out. That's a Head Coach putting the best people in a position to produce a winning product. Thanks again. A USC fan....
Great commentary Josh! This is the first vid of yours that I've watched, and I was really impressed. As my poor Huskers have struggled from coach to coach, Ed Orgeron was a potential hire that I was VERY high on. The problems that you point out with Harbaugh sounded eerily reminiscent of Bo Pelini's struggles and now I find myself applying the same metric in questioning Scott Frost's tribulations this year. GREAT, GREAT, GREAT food for thought!
I second that as a big LSU fan and pull for Clemson when they play Bama and the criminoles. Dabo is awesome w the bring your own guts speech. How can you not like a coach like that and brought a proud program back to national prominence. Kudos to Clemson for giving him time to build because it wasn't overnight he's been there since 09 and got embarrassed a few times especially that 2011 Orange Bowl by WVU 70-35 .
As a Bama fan. If I have to lose in a championship game. I don't mind it being to Dabo. Alabama gave him the opportunity to walk on. Worked his butt off under Stallings and was part of a championship team. Got the opportunity to coach at Alabama. He knows how to build a national championship team. He learned and lived through it at Bama. So yeah, I rather lose to an Alabama alumni than others in the finals.
A great leader does the things you mentioned. I’ve worked for both. Micro managers 99.9% of the time fail. The ones who know how to hire the right people with the right skill set: delegate, then they “step out of the way.” They are the wise leaders. Those who have been hired by said person who in turn are allowed to do their job feel respected. This makes for a successful team wether sport or other industries.
Great piece! I like Miles but he had outlived his stay at LSU and it was time for change. I thought Orgeron was a terrible hire (I was wrong) and wanted Hermann or Jimbo as our next coach. I did think Orgeron was a good recruiter and defensive coach, just not great HC material. Orgeron still needs to beat Saban to complete the story and not sure if he will but hoping.
U had thought that but what you do not know and most every one else does not. Most everyone does not do their homework. Alot of coaches fail their first time on a big job being a head coach or not that good. Coach bill belichick made one post season in browns head coach and was fired after a few seasons look it up. Coach Saban was not that good being a defense coordinator in NFL look it up he was DC at cleaveland browns under his buddy bil belichick a head coach his first job. Look it up. He was head coach at Toledo, sabans next head coach gig was Michigan State, he was not that good. Look it up mediocre. Coach Pete Carrol was a horrible head coach in NFL his first time around look him up. Lane kiffen had bad experiences or bad exits every where he went. Lots people questioned Nick saban hire of Lane kiffen. Kiffen did a great job at bama but had a bad exit at bama. Saban does his home work on his new hires. Coach Pete Carrol told Orgeron it takes a fail to make a good job your next time around. Ed Orgeron is trying to stay one step ahead and do his home work on the next hire. I'm sure not everyone is perfect at their first big job, got do horrible and make it really count that next job when get a chance. Ed really wants this job for a long time as his dream job.
@@romanfields7900 I didn't like Tom Herman. Tommy kisses every one of his players on the cheek. He did that at University Houston. Not lying bout that. I doubt that Jimbo Fisher ever gets another championship especially at tx a&m. The guy is a dirty coach, probably preaches his kids to do sucker punch and do targeting on defenseless players. LSU made the right hire on Orgeron as their head coach.
I thought it was a bad move to hire Ed too. I was wrong. At the same time I don’t blame myself for thinking that because every time he was a head coaching job it went down hill. Coach Ogeron admitted that when he was a head coach in the past that he tried to do everything and coach everything. He didn’t trust others to do their job. That’s one thing that’s very impressive that he was able to completely turn that habit and thought pattern upside down and let others have complete control of their jobs. They do their jobs and he makes the big decisions. That’s the way it should be done and that’s a great example of leadership
He's not some super genius that outsmarted everyone, he's a hard worker and has learned the hard way (see Ole Miss) how not to coach a team and the good way (Pete Carroll at USC). He puts LSU first and his pride last because he loves LSU that much. He knows what he does best... lead men... both coordinators run their show (obviously subject to his satisfaction... see Matt Canada). He also has the one characteristic all successful coaches have... he is relentless. It's been a long hard road for CEO, but he has fought his way to where he is today and that fight is reflected in our Tiger football team.
I'm I LSU fan, but coach O wasnt my first choice. He has done a good job. Hopefully they will continue to get better. Difference between him and Miles is coach O will listen. Miles was to hard headed. Go Tigers!
Less Miles was great at one point but didnt want to change the way he did things. Coach O hasn't been a coordinator of any kind like he said, and is open for changes
I will admit, I was all in on the Herman hire but I thought that even entertaining the idea of bringing Jimbo to BR was a horrible idea! The guy had just ran FL St into the ground and got smoked by Louisville! Why the hell would we want him at LSU. I will say that I was honestly one that never doubted that Orgeron would fight hard to be a good coach. The media kept bringing up his Ole Miss days as if people can’t learn from a mistake and grow. Also him being from Louisiana gave me comfort that he would do whatever he needed to do to win because he knows how important LSU football is to us Cajun folk. I also thought at the very least, we got one of the best recruiters in the country running our program and we’ve already seen the benefit of that. I remember telling my brother in law that my biggest fear was LSU going with a different coach and O leaving and becoming head recruiter at a rival program. Glad that didn’t happen. Just look at what he’s done as a recruiter. The guy recognized that Brennan wasn’t ready and went out and got Joe Burrow whom I believe will win the heisman this year. Found Joe Brady whom I believe will be LSUs next OC. He recognized our kicking game struggles and went out and got Cold as Ice Tracey. Not to mention, Jamar Chase, Derrick Stingley, John Emery and a host of other extremely talented players! O is the man!!
In retrospect I must said this very video had set the narrative for the season for me . Your understanding of both coach O and Dabo was so completely spot on that this very video left me believing that those two “Morons” and their two incredible teams would be meeting in an epic showdown for the ages .
What a blast from the past. The old set will always be a classic. Josh will you ever bring all the videos you did on this channel back? Like a archive. That would be pretty sweet.
Love the review of Coach O. I, too, was a doubter, but perhaps not as vocal of a doubter as some. Still a doubter, though. He has wildly exceeded my expectations by doing all the things you just said. As always, you're right on point. Love your channel.
I just re-read my post. I think it reads that I'm still a doubter, but that's not what I meant. I meant that, although I wasn't as much of a doubter as some initially, I was still a doubter. At the present time, I'm not a doubter at all. I love me some Coach O. He's proven that he has what it takes to a strong program. Geaux Tigers.
I loved the hire. I loved having him at Ole Miss and hated when he left. He's a great recruiter and the players love him. A program like LSU just needs to keep recruiting well and Orgeron had to prove he could control the program. That, to me was his perceived weakness because he had never done it before. Now I can't claim to have known he was going to do well, but I was happy he got the chance.
Louisiana is one of those states that is a coach's dream for football. You don't have to recruit outside of the state to have a championship team. What needed to change at LSU was philosophy. Coach O has done that.
I always liked Coach O and I thought usc screwed up by not hiring him. Plus he got Joe from TOSU . Im extremely happy that both dudes get a chance to shine
There is so many good young play callers and offensive coordinators out there that are capable of fixing offensives , they just don’t get the chance , coaches want their guy a lot and not the best guy for the job!
Well, you were right on your early prediction, LSU definitely didn’t get shutout by Alabama! 46/41. I saw it coming, and had faith that LSU would win. Whata Team!
Success breeds more success, eh? The funny thing about coach O, in an interview he was asked what was he going to do during the two week period before the Bama game . . . his answer? Recruit! That's his main focus now that he has everything else in place. This has been an eye opening year . . .
Take a look at Clemson and LSU, the main key to both of their success is humility by the head coach. The same can be said for the UVA basketball team. Pride and overinflated ego, particularly at the head coach level, is a problem in college sports.
I like what Orgeron is doing, been an LSU fan for 50 years. Still a little early to rate him as Swinney's peer. We will see how this season shakes out.
@@smokedbrisket3033 LSU fan my whole life. I was not saying ghat he is up there with Swinney. I was simply comparing them because a key to the success of both programs is humility. There is no way that LSU would be having the season that they are if the head coach and OC were not able to put their egos aside for the good of the team.
Coach Day at Ohio State also comes to mind. Not that Ohio State necessarily needed turned around, but they are playing a lot better than under Meyer. And this is Day’s first head coaching job ever! I hope it’s Ohio State and LSU in the Championship game. That would be fun!
Be careful eating too much crow so soon...Mark Richt was a legend for 5-6 years and then had another run 7-8 years later...eventually he was fired and most UGA fans remember him as a bum...everyone remembers him as a great guy who did well, but a guy who didn’t really get it done. Or Eddy O let’s it drive off the rails this year later on you may have been right after all.
Your take on Orgeron's hiring wasn't wrong. It was a terrible, horrible decision and Joe Alleva should have been fired on the spot for allowing Jimbo and Herman to play him like that. However sometimes bad decisions turn out well and that's what we have here. Based on what we knew about Coach O at the time, he shouldn't even have been a candidate for the job. But after getting worked by Fisher and Herman, Alleva threw up his hands and said "screw it I'll just hire O". Apparently there was no Plan C. Also, what you said about him hiring the right people and then getting out of the way is dead accurate. That's what Les Miles failed to do (and note that Les just fired his OC mid-season). But let's not pretend that it happened in a single off-season. First there was the hiring then firing of Matt Canada, then Ensminger getting the job by default. But the key was bringing in Joe Brady who was able to see the strengths of the players he had and build an offense around them. That's the best hire LSU has made since Nick Saban and Coach O should get credit for that. If Les had made a hire like that (and stayed out of his way) there wouldn't have been that painful moment after the Auburn game. Oh and Geaux Tigers!
Has anyone ever stopped to wonder why Reggie Bush said Ed Orgeron is his favorite and best coach he ever had? It wasn't because Ed cooked up Cajun meals for him. And Reggie Bush was a supreme athlete. Josh is spot on.
Man you just nailed that right on the head ! That's right just 1 year, same personel except fo4 the QB because we didn't have 1 so guess what, he went and got 1 of those too. This is why LSU fans were so frustrated with les miles.
We had him at USC under Carrol. , then on as an interim coach and he did great, he can recruit like hell and coach against anybody. But these a holes in we have at USC wanted a California Pete Carroll dude, this was after Kiffin , Sarkisan, and after everybody turned them down they go with With Helton. But we knew , we knew us regular people that Coach O was our guy , shit everybody knew if they hired him we were going to compete for championships. Ever since I read the LSU football news and cheer for him , since USC isn’t doing shit. I’m so glad for him and his family I knew he was going to play for national titles. We’ll cheer for you Coach O congratulations , you’re doing all at home we’re you belong ,loved and appreciated
O started off with a big mistake in Canada originally, but props for fixing it. No HC is without flaws or mistakes. If LSU will pay up top dollar(2 million/yr) for coordinators then this model should work for them. I don't know that he is a championship caliber coach, but I think they can beat Bama finally so he will have a chance to earn it with how they finish. O is a good coach, we will see if he is elite or upper echelon with how this season ends. They should be trying to capitalize with Burrow as I don't think they have another QB developing or coming through recruiting that can duplicate his numbers.
Is Hermann an elite coach? ... because O and the team he assembled handled Texas pretty easily in Austin. The Tea Sippers are still having a hard time getting over that one.
@@sweetwaterworship where did I mention Herman at all, or even disrespect O? This is a good channel with good commentary and back and forth, take this trolling garbage and name calling to twitter
Luckily LSU has two very good quarterbacks committed at this moment. Max Johnson, the son of the former NFL QB Brad Johnson, and the 6 foot 6 inch mobile QB from my home town, TJ Finley. The dudes a stud. Myles Brennan is LSUs number 2 QB and redshirt sophomore but he will not be the answer
USC slapped Orgeron in the face by passing him over when he was interim head coach. Orgeron was a one man recruiting machine that gave rise to Pete Carroll's USC teams.
Miles was fired after the loss but the official never swinged his arm in motion to signaled the start of the clock. If he would have, LSU would have won the game because DJ Chark caught the game winning pass in the end zone with no time left in the game. Remember it was know as the Axe Cutting Game, it was either Les or Gus that was going to be fired after that game. Auburn keeps Gus on the hot seat, mostly after they pay him a big bonus. LOL 😂 I told all of the doubters of Gus just hang this year because of Bo Nix and Gus always pulling something out of the hat. Coach Orgeron was the reason Ole MS and USC went to bowl games. After the players graduated or left school that Coach O had signed, neither school went to a bowl game for several years and when Ole MS went, later they were sanctioned by the NCAA, fined $179,000.00, put on probation until Nov.30, 2020, and had to give up wins along with not being bowl eligible for two years. That is why Patterson left Ole MS. Coach Orgeron is a winner and like you stated, he knows how to get out of the way and let coaches coach. You might be fooled by his accent but he is a wise man and knows exactly what he is doing, he has hired a winning staff and can recruit lights out with anyone. LSU is building a top program that is shaking up college football all over, Coach had more recruits signed from Louisiana last year than any coach has done in the past 12 years, he has brought in some real good out of state players and he has some super stars in the waiting to sign later with this next class. Now that people have seen that Bama can be beat, things are changing and it will favor LSU as well as other schools.
Good luck at beating Bama. Just because Clemson did convincingly (in the game of their life and are being shown as less than stellar this year) doesn't mean LSwho will beat Bama.
@jamar reid It's all a game. I love it, but at the end of the day it's a game. The sun comes up the next morning either way. But I do love college ball. O-H...you a buckeye fan eh? Good luck bro. Have a great day and weekend. :)
Damn right. Coach O is still not getting enough credit and Jimbo still underachieving at A&M. I was sceptical at first but O has done an outstanding job. Will he ever get the credit he deserves??
And they BEAT ALABAMA....yay! I have watched a few videos today of Ed Orgeron's "story," and he is quite a man (and coach)! I'm hoping that LSU goes on to win a national championship. (And I'm a UGA fan). UGA has a very good defense, but our offense needs a blood transfusion...they're ANEMIC! You can't keep winning games with field goals!
He surrounds himself with good coaches they say.This guy could be the best coach in the country.He turned around USC and you can bet the wish they would have kept him.He wasn't given a job with the cupboard already stacked like Day from Ohio State.How good of coach would Day be if he had to actually build a program from bottom up ?Orgeron just seems to be a good old fashion football coach.The kind of coach you'd want to see your son play for.
Your prediction was right and then some. Coach O knew going into this game there's no taking the foot off the accelerator. 49 points in Bama's backyard. He's no longer Coach O No. He's Coach Nine and O.
