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Lucid Embarrasses The Competition - Packaging Perfection 

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The Lucid Air's Packaging Puts The Competition To Shame
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Packaging is arguably one of the most challenging aspects of automotive design. Good packaging is the result of a wholistic approach of collaborative design, efficiency, and minimalism. In my opinion, there's never been a car that better reflects this approach than the Lucid Air; it fits an astonishing amount of cargo space and passenger space within a fairly compact footprint. Simultaneously, it has the lowest energy consumption on the highway of any production car sold today in the United States, with a 140 mpge rating. How have they done it? Watch the video to learn all about it!
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@SuperfastMatt
@SuperfastMatt Год назад
I worked for Lucid's CEO, Peter Rawlinson, at Tesla when he was leading Vehicle Engineering many years ago. He would say "Every millimeter counts," so often that it became a running joke. I never knew if Lucid would be a successful company, but I always knew the packaging, dynamics, and overall engineering would be excellent. I hope they can be succesful enough to make some lower cost cars in the future.
@davidb6576
@davidb6576 Год назад
So when will we see your off-road Lucid?
@ErikPelyukhno
@ErikPelyukhno Год назад
If you’re still close with the CEO I’d pay to watch you interview him!!
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Год назад
^see guys, SF Matt gets it...^
@CNile-se9xw
@CNile-se9xw Год назад
@@davidb6576 The Gravity is part of LUCID's range expansion. Much like your $39,000ish CyberTruck.
@nc3826
@nc3826 Год назад
Peter Rawlinson's innovation and perfectionism, is easy to admire.... But the real issue is having a design that can be ramped up, in terms of production.... Since as they say, the perfect is the enemy of the good....
@ghall05
@ghall05 Год назад
As a mechanic I can assure you, manufacturers DO NOT CARE about ease of maintenance. They don’t have frunks because they are lazy.
@solebridge
@solebridge Год назад
I assure you, they do care about maintenance.. they care about making it difficult lol
@3991melkoun
@3991melkoun Год назад
I third this statement
@DSAK55
@DSAK55 Год назад
As an engineer I call tell you it's not laziness. The "Marketing Scums" call the shots. You have to "build to cost"
@Tjescoo
@Tjescoo Год назад
Well noted, this wasn't mentioned in the video at all!
@lordjaraxxus663
@lordjaraxxus663 Год назад
@@DSAK55 The consumers call the shots. You have to sell, at a certain price. Thats it. Consumers vote everything.
@JimPekarek
@JimPekarek Год назад
You call this boring, and then proceed to make one of your most interesting videos so far. Packaging is fascinating and this is super cool
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill Год назад
Ok, that differential might be the coolest thing I have ever seen!! Just by changing its position in the driveline, relative to the other gears, it can be a TENTH the size of another vehicle's differential! Whoa!! What incredible *GENIUS* of an engineer came up with that idea! Wow!!
@willlucas5150
@willlucas5150 Год назад
Putting the differential before the gear reduction was amazing. Of course it means you need two sets of gears but the net gain in small differential that can be housed inside the rotor is mindblowing. I always tell people that of all the automakers, new or old, the BEST designs and engineering that are truly blowing me away is Lucid. And not just one thing but so many things. I cant wait to see what they do with the Gravity.
@celeron55
@celeron55 Год назад
That is something that's often done in off road trucks and earth moving equipment. Only a few times in the past it has been used in a passenger car, and even then most of the speed reduction was before the diff, only some after. In here the diff is right at the motor, which is genius.
11 месяцев назад
@@willlucas5150 on par with Koenigsegg they also pioneered so many tech designs, esp. for a small company
@kalabash72
@kalabash72 Год назад
Lucid is awesome. They're just really expensive. The good thing is technology from expensive vehicles usually makes it way down to more affordable vehicles over time.
@J.P.__
@J.P.__ Год назад
I hope so. I feel like there's so much left on the table nowadays. (As Lucid demonstrates)
@Tential1
@Tential1 Год назад
They'll survive. Infinite Saudi funding lol. They just wild with money.
@ProJanitor
@ProJanitor Год назад
Obviously? Wtf?
@aggieraz
@aggieraz Год назад
About as long as they can hold a patent right ... like may be 10 years from now?
@kalmmonke5037
@kalmmonke5037 Год назад
its not good, you cannot recycle systems while batteyr tech has low longveity from dendrite forming batery degradation mahle was talking about a recycalable cheaper motor , but it needs a transmissions, subaru wrx cvt is high torque. more energy that goes in and out battery worsens degradation, more batery mass exponentially worsens this because weight per energy is high and weight worsens road wear, crash saftey(at least for people outside car assuming the car protects in inside people well), is more expensive and resource costly etc. the limited heavy battery supply can be used to allow a combustion to run optimaly low emissions etc to charg electric drive, which would areduce emissions where it happens most across all cars across the rest of time. the value of lwo emissiosn itself is very questionsable, although its defintly better for human health to a extent... theres a lot to say , but i just wanna expose how obviously pretentious these ev movement people are.
@shaneb9160
@shaneb9160 Год назад
There's going to be a part two right? Right????? Lucid has a tonne of wicked engineering and I hope you can review more of it, great job!
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 Год назад
Pleeeeeeze!
@grenciamars4876
@grenciamars4876 Год назад
The sound engineer in me REALLY appreciates the fact that you've acoustically treated your garage! You kept the perfect, and I mean PERFECT amount of reverberation for that ambient "garage" sound, without it being an echo chamber (oh, the Lucid is cool, too 😊)
@pewpewpower
@pewpewpower 3 месяца назад
It’s a regular freaking garage. The clean sound just comes from a good mic and post processing..
@zohircherifi5616
@zohircherifi5616 Год назад
It's amazing to me how Lucid designed this car better than more known & established car companies
@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 11 месяцев назад
I think there’s definitely something to that. Being a new company means they’re not tied to any traditions of design (like BMW and Mercedes, for instance) that they need to conform to, and they probably have smaller teams and fewer people to squash innovative ideas.
@mdjey2
@mdjey2 11 месяцев назад
Not that much better. It is expensive car where you don't have easy access to its parts.
@Marc-zi4vg
@Marc-zi4vg 11 месяцев назад
its because alot of the Lucid engineers are the former tesla execs that originally came from lotus when tesla asked them for help in their baby steps
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 11 месяцев назад
Take a look NEVS Emily GT that car was designed in 10 month and for sure has designed really well also very good packaging.
@mdjey2
@mdjey2 11 месяцев назад
@@mr.wizeguy8995 In-wheel motors will be failure point, also bad for suspension.
@rogerking7258
@rogerking7258 Год назад
When the McLaren F1 came out in the early 90s, everyone thought I was mad because the thing that impressed me most wasn't the performance, but the fact that it was smaller and lighter than any competitors, and could carry an extra passenger and a decent amount of luggage.
@aluisious
@aluisious Год назад
Riiight...because it was totally a road trip car. The gulf between "hypothetically, you could use it for X" and what anyone ever actually did use it for is enormous.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Год назад
​@@aluisious No, the owners actually used their F1s plenty until they became so valuable that it was a financial risk to drive it.
@ultimatist
@ultimatist Год назад
Absolutely innovative with the 3 seats. But it wasn't about carrying more people. It was about CoG and symmetry of handling dynamics.
@user-ic6ln4lm2x
@user-ic6ln4lm2x Год назад
@@ultimatist It saved having LHD and RHD versions - probably more relevant to build costs than handling dynamics in a road car
@jf8138
@jf8138 Год назад
@@aluisious Jesus, that isn't even close to what he said, you psychopath
@XDSDDLord
@XDSDDLord Год назад
Honestly, not disappointed about the lack of driving; there are plenty of videos about that, but not enough about frunks. This video has made me want a Lucid more than any other video I've seen about it.
@xtype2006
@xtype2006 Год назад
More Lucid videos! It's such an underappreciated brand that needs to get its name out there. So many people don't even know about Lucid and their amazing underlying packaging, efficiency, and design.
@SinghSantosh1
@SinghSantosh1 Год назад
Fully agree! I didn’t know about their efficient packaging.
@nicholaswilkerson501
@nicholaswilkerson501 10 месяцев назад
not true everyone know about them. their cars are just way to expensive. the reason people buy Tesla's is good price ranges and charging network. both which lucid doesn't have. Awesome car but terrible plan to enter car market at the highest cost for EV. they are more expensive then the Mercedes one for god sakes. All for a NEW company people don't trust yet. Awesome cars though. hopefully they make it long enough to make some affordable cars. As of now they are bleeding money and cost.
@nobodyimportant7804
@nobodyimportant7804 8 месяцев назад
The only thing people need to know about Lucid is that Prince Bonesaw is the majority owner.
@thomaswilding8818
@thomaswilding8818 Год назад
In 1959 the Mini was designed, really, with packaging first and foremast. Maximum inside space, minimum outside dimensions. Good handling was a bonus. Well done Lucid. Alec Issigonis would have loved it.
@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 11 месяцев назад
The BMW 2002 was another great example of this: TINY car by today’s standards but it had a large trunk and fit four adults comfortably.
@elroyfudbucker6806
@elroyfudbucker6806 7 месяцев назад
@@jeremyspecce The 2002 had a large trunk (or boot) because it had a lot of rear overhang, like a lot of '60s designs. It was also a very usable space with a flat floor.
@ultimatist
@ultimatist Год назад
Lucid is next-level when it comes to first-principles engineering. Hope they survive and drive the industry forward. Long diffuser piece was new to me!
@potencjalnypracownik2966
@potencjalnypracownik2966 Год назад
First principles starts with the COST. Lucid is artisian making best product not thinking about the cost at all.
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Год назад
re: "Long diffuser piece was new to me!" indeed, despite having watched tons of reviews on the Lucid, and the car now being "old" of sorts, this is the FIRST i've heard that mentioned. now the laymen reviewers i could see missing that (they know fu*&all about F1, Lemans, etc) but there are numours other tech savvy reviewers who should have caught that.
@gracefool
@gracefool Год назад
​@@potencjalnypracownik2966 cost is driven by factory design, when you're innovating you're changing the design so just can't afford to optimise the factory that much. It makes sense for automotive innovation to start at the top end.
@HachiMiura
@HachiMiura Год назад
I really hope Lucid survives long term as a company. The cars are expensive, but the engineering in them just seems so much better than any other EV on the market right now.
@rami8896
@rami8896 Год назад
If they dont survive then it will just be a good example that EV's dont have a sustainable future
@Jsebas289
@Jsebas289 Год назад
Their major investor in a middle eastern company. They only produce about 20k vehicles a year and their average car price is 120k. Unless they make major changes, i dont see them surviving.
@heathwirt8919
@heathwirt8919 Год назад
@@Jsebas289 Tesla fanboy hate.
@Jsebas289
@Jsebas289 Год назад
@@heathwirt8919 sorry if my comment offended you. I was just putting some facts about the company out there.
@heathwirt8919
@heathwirt8919 Год назад
@@Jsebas289 You were just regurgitating the usual Tesla fanboy BS. No apology necessary.
@rollmann00
@rollmann00 Год назад
As a Design engineer you have gracefully stated my efficiency core values!! Yes, yes and Yes. There are ways to make greatness. But it takes time and thought, but it pays off for years!!! Thanks Jason!!! Well done.
@theinquiringminded6952
@theinquiringminded6952 Год назад
Outstanding! Your presentations over the years have gotten better and better and they started off from a pretty high level already. This has been my FAVORITE of all your videos. Lucid should give you free stock for all the great PR you just gave them.
@weschapman5041
@weschapman5041 Год назад
I was waiting for the headlight vents to be mentioned. All lights, even LED make heat. It’s a matter of where the heat is generated. It’s impressive that the heat sinks fit the LEDs have their own cooling channel and exhaust vent in the hood! Talk about packaging! I just hope that they survive and flourish as their drivetrain is very impressive.
@letsgobrandon5800
@letsgobrandon5800 Год назад
Lucid embarrasses the competition in everything but sales. Sales is where it matters. The big question is, will Lucid survive?
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Год назад
It’s a great point, I hope they do! Traditional automakers can learn a lot from their approach.
@Tential1
@Tential1 Год назад
Infinite Saudi money backing so yes. They just got another 3 billion. Saudi Aramco is doing fine so Saudis have billions to play with.
@OutOfNameIdeas2
@OutOfNameIdeas2 Год назад
It's ugly.
@someweeb3650
@someweeb3650 Год назад
Who needs sales when you have profit margins
@cyclopsvision6370
@cyclopsvision6370 Год назад
Are you sure it's a sales issue? Can Lucid even produce several thousand vehicles a week to be profitable?
@terrytexas8257
@terrytexas8257 Год назад
This is the first channel that got everything about the Lucid Air GT right on the topics they covered. Normally I have to correct the tuber for what they got wrong, but you nailed everything. I have had mine since Jan. 5th 2023, and love it. I also appreciate the info on the EQS, I have been thinking about checking out the 580 and wasn't aware of that info, especially the front section of the car.
@OgreRamProductions
@OgreRamProductions Год назад
My manager just got his Lucid delivered and we went to lunch in it last week. Was a really awesome car with a lot of nifty features, you can really tell they designed it from the ground up for efficiency and didn't just build it off an existing platform. EE is totally right about the leg space in the back seats too... I'm 6'1 and the rear seat fit me better than the back of my friends Silverado 1500 Crew Cab. That was really kind of surreal in a car just a bit larger than my Kia Forte
@armadillito
@armadillito Год назад
How's the headroom and under-thigh support?
@randomsurfer3963
@randomsurfer3963 Год назад
I never thought a video about packaging would be interesting and yet it is..well done. Agreed about the lazy design, they seem to be thinking "Since people are used to not having a frunk with most ICE engined cars, why bother?"..
@mramosotero
@mramosotero Год назад
Same thing I was going to write, differential engineering starting from an ICE, they are afraid of shocking people with too much novelty
@RiseAgainstTheDevilAndGod
@RiseAgainstTheDevilAndGod Год назад
Middle management present it as a cost and resource saving measure to higher management and then get promoted for it
@cleverusernamecl5532
@cleverusernamecl5532 Год назад
Boxter had this nearly 30 years ago in a tiny 2 seater chassis.
@matchsticks4
@matchsticks4 Год назад
I think Jonny Lieberman said some car manufacturers sent surveys out to frunk-buyers and a huge majority never used them despite having them. If true and I'm not misremembering, I wonder why
@romannasuti25
@romannasuti25 Год назад
@@matchsticks4 big thing is I rarely remember I have it until I’m reaching the limit of cargo space, which is already extremely rare in my Model 3. Also, no external handle to open it makes it annoying to do so. Otherwise, Porsche proves they’re useful!
@timmurphy5541
@timmurphy5541 Год назад
Someone did point out to me that when you're designing a family of cars you're doing a packaging problem on many models at the same time. You want to reuse all the same elements and you want to put everything together in almost the same way to keep costs down. That is going to result in empty spots in some models just because the overall system is engineered to allow e.g. a HUD or a heat pump at that point even if that model will never have it.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Год назад
Lucid's upcoming 3-row SUV uses the same platform. A new mid-size chassis is coming for a smaller family of vehicles. Lucid is being tight-lipped about any details, but given the CEO's (formerly of Lotus and Jaguar) and chief designer's (ND MX-5) past endevors we assume that family will include a sport coupe.
@mcspikesky
@mcspikesky Год назад
You can simplify your explanation to, cheap and lazy!
@andrewahern3730
@andrewahern3730 Год назад
A lot of it is tooling as well. Most of the development cost of a car is simply designing the manufacturing process so that you can keep build costs down. There’s a lot of comments here complaining about packaging, design, etc. without realizing that if the got everything on their wish list, a Toyota Camry would cost $75,000.
@timmurphy5541
@timmurphy5541 Год назад
@@mcspikesky laziness is a silly thing to accuse car companies of, especially successful ones. Cheapness , on the other hand, exactly what we want.
@erkkavilhunen7852
@erkkavilhunen7852 Год назад
Real reason is BMW etc. want to use same basic body in ICE model production. i4 is same as 420i GC or whatever. Its simple economics. Similar cars build as single platform on single production line with electric , diesel, gasoline and gasoline hybrid drivetrains. Even if some model like diesel is not sold in USA BMW has to think about global markets. Making each one of them perfect from packaging point of view would mean major extra cost. They simply have made calculation and got result where chasing last inch of space makes no financial sense. Until old manufacturers are doing just electric models they will keep on doing this calculation and make compromises. Doing all new model from ground up is basically easier.
@justinpearman9
@justinpearman9 Год назад
Solidly constructed video. Smooth edits, clean, great audio track. Flipped back & forth between 1x & 1.5x and even 1.75x and it was smooth & clear throughout with 1.5x being the ideal for both listening & processing the type & quantity of data being communicated via the way it was in inflection etc. The whole thing makes me.. ..realize just how well Lucid is pushing the envelope, and how much other manufacturers need to push themselves towards doing similar. All around interesting video. Great job! Lucid likely just picked up yet-another customer because of it 👍
@corujariousa
@corujariousa Год назад
I found your channel recently. I am enjoying the videos! Great realistic approach and delivery of all subjects. Thank you!
@FuncleChuck
@FuncleChuck Год назад
I love it. Wish they were half that absurd price
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 Год назад
You expect them to sell it for $23,000?
@eduardoizquierdo309
@eduardoizquierdo309 Год назад
Not expect, want
@OneWheelMan
@OneWheelMan Год назад
@@samusaran7317 Their cheapest car is $87,400, $23,000 is a lot less than half of that. The comment you replied to said half.
@jessecortez9449
@jessecortez9449 Год назад
In about a decade you won't even be allowed to personally own a vehicle. Governments across world are throttling down on that.
@Bertinator-nm9ld
@Bertinator-nm9ld Год назад
If they were half the price, they wouldn't be nearly as good, unfortunately. Shrinking components and shoving certain of these technologies into vehicles gets expensive.
@TurdFergusen
@TurdFergusen Год назад
the 200k ev market competition is fierce
@albertlert
@albertlert Год назад
I love your detail on this; something greatly overlooked yet customers interact with all the time!
@SmartMart1658
@SmartMart1658 Год назад
Lucid has great tech. Hope you are going to talk more about it. Lucid has produced some great technical videos about their technology - the latest one is on their inverter.
@FromJustJ
@FromJustJ Год назад
Another benefit of a frunk that is isolated from the passenger cabin is that odors from items in the frunk don't make it into the cabin. So if you're picking up particularly pungent take-out food, or have something else that you need to transport that you don't want to smell in the cabin, an isolated frunk is a really nice feature.
@Robert-cu9bm
@Robert-cu9bm Год назад
But the air filter is directly behind where you would put that food. So the smells will be blown into your face.
@19chucki74
@19chucki74 Год назад
I've seen at least five maybe six of the Lucid Air on the road here in Atlanta, and they look phenomenal. I didn't know how aerodynamic they were until this video (thanks Jason!). And the packaging is superb as well.
@PedroRafael
@PedroRafael 11 месяцев назад
Came back just leave a comment: nice perks and important aspects of comfort, I agree with you. Thank you for sharing!
@mika1nl
@mika1nl Год назад
Really like these kind of in depth analysis, gives you some things to think about which you may not have considered yet when buying another vehicle. Keep it up👍🏻
@Cptn.Viridian
@Cptn.Viridian Год назад
Reminds ne of the early Tesla Model S (the first model). Leaps and bounds ahread of it's piers, but with initially lackluster sales and software. Here's hoping that Lucid can pull off something similar. (Because we really need more GOOD competitors)
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 Год назад
Hopefully a less egotistical CEO.
@thomasreese2816
@thomasreese2816 Год назад
​@@leftcoaster67 Lucid gives you even more of that flavor 😂
@terrestrialcreature7481
@terrestrialcreature7481 Год назад
@@leftcoaster67 Compared to other billionaires hes actually not that bad
@griffins750
@griffins750 Год назад
@@leftcoaster67 Hes a former partner of Elon if memory serves me correctly. What I remember for sure is that the entire "LUCID" company and the Air in particular (especially versions like the Sapphire), are basically designed to be gigantic middle fingers to Elon which I just find hilarious. So while theres definitely some "Ego", it's more channeled more professional, less crazy like Elon, more like a normal CEO who happens to have a chip on his shoulder.
@mcoadynh
@mcoadynh Год назад
I think he meant a less egotistical CEO than Tesla has
@pedrosantos4368
@pedrosantos4368 Год назад
AWESOME content and great humor, as always!
@coryshook7648
@coryshook7648 Год назад
absolutely outstanding! Do another video on the other aspects of the car such as power and efficiency number.
@ztyhurst
@ztyhurst Год назад
If I could afford it, I would buy a Lucid for my personal vehicle and a Rivian R1S for a family hauler, but I can't so I drive a Mazda and a Honda respectively. Its fun to see what can be done, but it would be even more fun if it was packaged in a way that I could also afford it. On a side note... I am curious to see if in wheel hub motors start to become a trend, as that would allow even more design choices for storage and packaging.
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 Год назад
😹
@carljaekle
@carljaekle Год назад
Hub motors sound cool but, vastly increase unsprung weight, and are subject to huge G forces when you hit a pot hole. Don't expect to see them. Rivian chose not to go that route, even though they use 4 motors.
@mattgti86
@mattgti86 Год назад
Really enjoyed this video and your take on electric vehicle packaging!
@jeffdoell5064
@jeffdoell5064 Год назад
Excellent Vid and I agree with your premise that packaging is important.
@carstech2685
@carstech2685 Год назад
Truly this brand has been my favorite to explain to people, love the video!!!
@SaveTheManuals1
@SaveTheManuals1 Год назад
I hope Lucid paid you for this video because I have never been so well sold on this vehicle as in this video. There is some really impressive engineering/philosophy behind this car that actually helps justify some of that rather large price tag.
@kiwijonowilson
@kiwijonowilson Год назад
I love to see this sort of engineering. These changes really make a difference to the owners lives. Efficiency is important, not just for running costs going into the future but range. I love the frunk on my Model 3, even though its tiny compared to the Lucid Frunk - having any "locked" space up front is very useful (I have cables, tyre kit and sometimes my laptop up there - which leaves the boot all available). I also really like the deep storage well in the boot (or trunk). Agree the differential implementation in the Lucid is super clever. Two slightly smaller motors and no differential would be another way to go (but at the cost of added size / complexity - particularly a second inverter) as you then have torque vectoring without losing energy in brakes but wouldn't be as small.
@tedjohnson64
@tedjohnson64 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant analysis! I like how you uncovered design trade offs that no one else has ever reported.
@sirstevo
@sirstevo Год назад
Another fantastic video Jason. I love space efficiency and good design too. I think I might have to go check out a Lucid
@JacobShepherdEngineer
@JacobShepherdEngineer Год назад
Totally agree, more attention to packaging can make cars much better. Those headlights are awesome.
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 Год назад
😂😂😂
@arshamskrenes
@arshamskrenes Год назад
Such a great video that makes me love Lucid! I sure hope they can bring costs down and sales up so that they survive. Their products clearly show a huge amount of care and love and unquestionably amazing vehicles.
@mathewwilson2286
@mathewwilson2286 Год назад
You're definitely in my top 2 RU-vidrs. I love your videos
@barneyjensen4470
@barneyjensen4470 Год назад
That was really fascinating 👏 Thanks, Jason One of my favorites 😍
@MLHunt
@MLHunt Год назад
Putting that roll-on bag in the front bay of the BMW was kinda embarrassing
@ivonakis
@ivonakis Год назад
There was enough space for straight 6
@Planag7
@Planag7 Год назад
I know. BMWs are embarrassing
@MLHunt
@MLHunt Год назад
@@ivonakis almost like the engineers took a design intended for a straight 6 or a V8 and didn't rework it at all 🙄. Maybe it was just lazy engineering but I wonder too if manufacturing costs, retooling etc. didn't also play a part in their choices. Like sometimes you see EVs that have a new exterior design but still have a shaft tunnel down the middle of the floor.
@rexuskrackus
@rexuskrackus Год назад
the bmw 4 series can be configured with a petrol engine OR electric drivetrain. Therefor the EV version isn’t packaged well, at all.
@rexuskrackus
@rexuskrackus Год назад
@@MLHunt I think you answered the question yourself. They use the same chassis to build an ICE version and an EV version. The i4 is already more expensive than it’s petrol counterparts, optimized packaging surely would drive the price even higher.
@anthonylipke7754
@anthonylipke7754 Год назад
Assembly times matter for cost as does development complexity when you are making enough units. This car seems really nice and I appreciate the choices and the work.
@BigFiveJack
@BigFiveJack Год назад
This lecture was really great!
@karenbailey9912
@karenbailey9912 11 месяцев назад
Great intro to Lucid. Love your stuff as always. When is the review on performance/handling/efficiency and electromechanical engineering coming?
@pvtcmyers87
@pvtcmyers87 Год назад
I can’t wait to see more about what you think about this car. I was incredibly lucky to have the opportunity to test drive one and it’s one of the best cars I’ve ever driven.
@adamlytle2615
@adamlytle2615 Год назад
I don't know if it will end up being super handy for anyone, but I also appreciate how the trunk opens the full width of the car. Some neat outside-the-box thinking.
@shadowgunner69
@shadowgunner69 Год назад
Take a look at the 1960's BMW 1600/2002.
@rdymond1
@rdymond1 Год назад
Such a good presentation, bravo!
@meathead585
@meathead585 Год назад
Thanks. Lucid certainly can use your help right now.
@doorhammer
@doorhammer Год назад
This is my favorite kind of content. Learning about an idiosyncratic niche thing from someone unabashedly passionate about it. I also love learning about the design of objects that have a clear and pervasive ethos, so the video is pretty much everything I dig.
@noahman27
@noahman27 Год назад
Looks awesome. Wish they also designed in cornering lights so when you're turning onto a dark street at night you can see to your immediate right or left. My old Nissan Quest had that feature and it was really helpful. My Toyota Sienna does not and it's a feature I really miss.
@MartialBachoffner
@MartialBachoffner Год назад
Thank you for always making amazing videos that left us more educated. We are so lucky to access all your knowledge for free. Could you please make a video about in-wheel motors? They seem to be a great option.
@raceway3982
@raceway3982 Год назад
Excellent video...I enjoyed learning from you...thank you!
@hishamhadjiran6696
@hishamhadjiran6696 Год назад
Great video with articulate presentation regarding the car, hopefully Lucid can sell more than 5000 vehicle next year
@awsome957
@awsome957 Год назад
Hopefully there's a part 2 on how it drives
@MrCPPG
@MrCPPG Год назад
Jason I am glad you made this video. Lucid has great engineering.
@americanspruce
@americanspruce Год назад
Excellent presentation. Subscribed.
@-Enginerd
@-Enginerd Год назад
Let's not forget about all of the negatives of having tight packaging. 1) Devlopment and Validation cycles are significantly longer and more expensive. Especially for a low volume Startup, those are a noticeable penalty. That cost needs to be passed along to the consumer. 2) Redesigns when something goes wrong, or a refresh is necessary is also significantly more challenging. Again, impacting lead time and cost. 3) As said, serviceability is more challenging which will again drive cost to the consumer. 4) Manufacturability is more challenging. Again, more cost. 5) Even minor crashes will result in a large number of components being replaced. Again, more cost. Just look at the recent viral content about the rear-ended Rivian that cost $42k to repair. On a personal note, as someone that has been forced by management to package as tightly as possible, I can tell you it creates a nightmarish work environment. And in this case, when the system didn't function as intended, the entire program had to be scrapped because there wasn't space to fix the issue.
@svenhodaka9145
@svenhodaka9145 Год назад
We’ll done Jason and your team. Impressive EV design. I saw my first one on the street this week. Looks amazing too. (BTW, I’m a Tesla fanboy).
@benmig5037
@benmig5037 Год назад
I agree and believe you have a valid argument as competition brings innovations and higher standards
@CheapWannabe
@CheapWannabe 10 месяцев назад
Love your videos. The white board ones are great, but this one i hesitated clicking for a week... It's so interesting
@Alan-ww8vi
@Alan-ww8vi Год назад
Clever packaging is an art form. Grats Lucid!
@davidfrankel9267
@davidfrankel9267 Год назад
The engineering is amazing. The problem is the CEO gave himself a very fat paycheck with a company bleeding cash going into a possible recession. Somebody needs to boot the CEO, give the company a cash injection and figure out how to reduce the cost of that car. You also have potential buyers worried about having the company going bankrupt and having a $150K brick in their driveway because they can't get parts or services. Real S show for this company. The engineers really did a fantastic job. Thanks EE
@jclwhite
@jclwhite Год назад
Rawlinson practically *is* Lucid, its his baby. Even if he officially isn't the chief engineer or designer...he basically is. It's like saying Gordon Murray is ruining Gordon Murray Automotive. Not to excuse his paycheck or anything, but the company doesn't exist without him.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Год назад
@@jclwhite Rawlinson did not set his bonus rate and is far from overpaid for what he has accomplished in the years running up to production. It's mostly Tesla trolls that winge about his pay, not the owners, not the shareholders.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Год назад
Rawlinson is the reason the company can exist. That's why he earns a lot of money.
@energyeve2152
@energyeve2152 6 месяцев назад
Super cool! Thanks for sharing
@MM-sf3rl
@MM-sf3rl Год назад
Few of use would have known. Good info. Thanks.
@MrHanichak2
@MrHanichak2 Год назад
The lighting technology that this car has is extremely awesome. I can't wait to see it in real life! And use it out on the Blue ridge parkway where it's dark enough to need high beams and sometimes too bright to have them! 😮
@Xenon0000000000001
@Xenon0000000000001 Год назад
Matrix style LED lights are common place on European cars. The latest Mercedes tech is still way ahead of what was shown here, with the ability to project information onto the road.
@jimc4731
@jimc4731 Год назад
@@Xenon0000000000001 What information, if you please? JIM
@Xenon0000000000001
@Xenon0000000000001 Год назад
@@jimc4731 It can do things like project warning symbols on the road and pointing out pedestrians. Search for Mercedes digital light to see it in action.
@bolerkai
@bolerkai Год назад
This is an exciting car, please do a more in-depth review of the motor you mentioned and a driving/handling review as well.
@MagDag_
@MagDag_ Год назад
I've just started watching and heard what you will talk about in. I stopped a video, and smashed a like button. Thank you!!! Finally, someone did a video about it! You are right, LAZY design!
@jacobkennedy8336
@jacobkennedy8336 Год назад
Fascinating video as always! Can we get a video about those tiny motors and inverter s?
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere Год назад
The engineering that has gone into Lucid's vehicles is truly impressive. I only hope they can figure out how to survive.
@T0getherAlone
@T0getherAlone Год назад
You made me realize an interesting question about this car in particular. Is there a safety mechanism in the frunk to release a human being from it? All modern trunks have this or you can simply exit through the back seats.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained Год назад
Yes, there's a button to open the frunk from the inside. In this video, I used a different button because it sets off the alarm when you open it from the inside.
@SmartMart1658
@SmartMart1658 Год назад
Yes all EVs with frunks have to have a release button on the inside.
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 Год назад
​@@EngineeringExplained so it alerts you when they escape?! Excellent.
@ThEvilsTeam
@ThEvilsTeam Год назад
This is a thing only in USA. In other places people just don't shut themselves in a trunk perhaps.
@aluisious
@aluisious Год назад
@@ThEvilsTeam dumbass comment
@davidm5707
@davidm5707 11 месяцев назад
Well, I'm glad the algorithm brought you back to my feed, I haven't seen you in a couple of years.
@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS
@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS Год назад
This is why I love your channel. Amazing and enthusiastic information about cars, mixed with that Tesla joke as an opener.
@LooneyFarmGuy
@LooneyFarmGuy Год назад
Looks like the design team is talking to the engineering team on this one , that is refreshing 😎 Is maintenance access not so much an issue with Ev'S?
@thomasreese2816
@thomasreese2816 Год назад
Not really much maintenance, other than tires and windshield washer fluid. In a minor crash, it is similar to an ICE vehicle. In a major crash, most modern cars will be written off.
@LooneyFarmGuy
@LooneyFarmGuy Год назад
@@thomasreese2816 Ok , I figured as much 🤔Very difficult and costly to fix any newer car after a major crash as that is how they are designed . Just hope you have a good insurance policy 😉
@JMNTN
@JMNTN Год назад
I always wonder how a new company can put a car like this on the market. I work in automotive engineering, i design machinery for car factories. Depending on the machine it can take over a year to go from start to finish on the development and manufacturing of a machine. This is also just one small part of the entire process. Putting a new model on the market is a huge undertaking for even the biggest brands, for a startup brand it should be impossible.
@inevespace
@inevespace Год назад
so, this is why most small brands start with low series luxury or sport cars.
@kalmmonke5037
@kalmmonke5037 Год назад
lucid got ltoof support from middle east oil money
@cyclopsvision6370
@cyclopsvision6370 Год назад
Lucid is not exactly a new car company. They have been supplying the battery systems for Formula E before they started manufacturing passenger vehicles.
@jghall00
@jghall00 Год назад
This was a multi-year effort, but COVID impacted parts availability. The car was previewed years ago.
@solo10041
@solo10041 Год назад
For a traditional IC vehicle, this sounds very difficult. For EVs you can create a decent vehicle if you have an experienced team without a lot of infrastructure. However to mass produce, it will be a logistical nightmare. All the parts must be produced by the suppliers in huge quantities right in time so as to avoid having large inventories.
@Riverguide33
@Riverguide33 Год назад
Great vid….as usual from you! 👍
@carrasco8250
@carrasco8250 8 месяцев назад
Outstanding and informative video!! Bravo! Lucid is truly head and shoulders ahead of the EV competition 😍😍
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 Год назад
Even though I live in the US, I have to say that "bonnet" is preferable to "frunk". 🙂
@milesarcher.
@milesarcher. Год назад
Well, in the UK the trunk is called the boot. So a frunk is a froot/fruit!
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 Год назад
@@milesarcher. just so I'm not mistaken... bonnet is at front of car, boot is in rear. Correct? Thanks!
@milesarcher.
@milesarcher. Год назад
@@michaelogden5958 Correct.
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 Год назад
@El Cactuar true. but 'frunk'? even a silly acronym like FSA (Forward Storage Area) beats 'frunk'. 😄
@InFAMOUSPS4_19
@InFAMOUSPS4_19 Год назад
When it comes to the transmission and differential I wonder what the trade off is with their design. Yes the differential is smaller but you essentially need 2 planetary gear reductions per wheel. Would love a further comparison on this
@jankoodziej877
@jankoodziej877 11 месяцев назад
Smaller also means higher force per surface, so it needs to be higher quality = more expensive. Or more prone to damage.
@ilampaulino
@ilampaulino Год назад
Amazing attention to detail.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Год назад
I hope we see more videos on this car. I’m truly interested in how it’s motors work.
@defaultuser3410
@defaultuser3410 Год назад
I saw another video where they asked the manufacturer why their car has no frunk despite the space to put one, and the response was that most of their customers don't use it. I agree with you though, seems lazy not to put one anyway.
@julianevjourney
@julianevjourney Год назад
One other aspect to Lucid’s frunk is that it’s powered. There are buttons inside the car to open/close it as well as the mobile key and key fob. When OEMs say people don’t use it, it’s because the OEM hasn’t made it useable. Lucid’s frunk is big and useable so I use it on my Touring all the time.
@stevenwilliams1805
@stevenwilliams1805 Год назад
Yeah it seems lazy not to include extra storage space when supposedly many people have migrated to SUVs for extra storage space.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 Год назад
@@julianevjourney Another reason not to use the frunk is the high lift height. Compared to the trunk it's a lot higher and people are lazy. Actually that was a bit nasty, as it's simply not ergonomic to lift something heavy that high and then over the front and place it into the trunk. So it's quite understandable when people default to use the trunk when they have something bulky or heavy, leaving the frunk for when they need more storage than what will fit into the trunk.
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Год назад
because: 911 ENVY.
@TizzleT
@TizzleT Год назад
Engineering-wise, is it easier and cheaper to fix for a front fender bender?
@F0XD1E
@F0XD1E Год назад
With as many sensors as this car has in the front fender, a front impact could be devistating.
@TizzleT
@TizzleT 11 месяцев назад
That's what I figured. If they invented a way to put all the necessary sensors above the windshield or other place besides in the bumper, that would be good engineering. Putting everything in the bumper seems lazy to me.
@LuxAudio389
@LuxAudio389 Год назад
Excellent innovations. 👏
@luisfernandes4145
@luisfernandes4145 Год назад
This means that another video about Lucid is in the way... 😊👍
@motorvoyage_
@motorvoyage_ Год назад
That's great, but because of tight packaging under-thigh support is reduced. The defuser is starting from the rear seat because of that the battery is slightly raised which reduced the space between the floor and the rear seat
@JehanKateli
@JehanKateli Год назад
This is why I'm a LCID shareholder. I know they're in a shitty financial position, but their engineering is great and that's ultimately what makes a company successful.
@GordonGordon
@GordonGordon Год назад
Color me impressed. I always thought of Lucid as an also-rans, but their vehicle design is very thoughtful. I'm very impressed. I have a Tesla, but now i genuinely want to see more Lucids on the road!
@kennethjoseph4227
@kennethjoseph4227 Год назад
Nice overall. Thank you! 😊
@JPEight
@JPEight Год назад
Would have been nice if you could have shown more of the trunk - that's a really unusual design and looks like it gives a massive opening size - one of the main issues with saloons. Otherwise, another great video as always.
@johnlove6598
@johnlove6598 Год назад
Lucid sacrificed ground clearance for efficiency and this very expensive car doesn’t have air suspension. Indeed the ground clearance is so bad Lucid doesn’t disclose it in the spec. Overall the model s is all around technically much more useful at a much better price.
@D-Rockk
@D-Rockk Год назад
Thanks Jason
@diamond_rd
@diamond_rd Год назад
I want one. Good breakdown too.
@bob9483
@bob9483 Год назад
Looks like a maintenance nightmare NGL. Great car to rent or keep just a few years, which I guess matches the market for those cars
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell Год назад
What maintenance?
@scromberprofessionalautist1017
@@JoshuaTootell Any of the thousand little sensors or electrics go out and you are going to need more than a local mechanic. Same as most modern ICE cars to be fair, But most likely a bit more locked down.
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 Год назад
Not so much maintenance, but get a fender bender and the car will cost a fortune to fix. Just like a tesla, but worse.
@thomaspayne6866
@thomaspayne6866 Год назад
How do people figure electric car would need more maintenance than a combustion engine with transmission and exhaust and a ton of sensors? Does you electric lawn motor mower and weed whacker need more maintenance?
@scromberprofessionalautist1017
@@thomaspayne6866 I believe what the original commentor was referring to is that in the case that something breaks as the car ages, Compared to an ICE vehicle, Repair will be far more costly and will require you to ship it out to a manufacturer for more significant repairs. People don't like not being able to fix the things they own,
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