@@quinnjim it's quite a difference for me, but my instructor said just keep your butt going straight down the center line and don't worry about anything else! And the older I get, I get a little more claustrophobic inside a cockpit, so this is going to be perfect
Why did this video get 23 thumbs down?? I think she did great and I wish my dad was a pilot and shared the love with me. Special hobby you two share. :-)
In 1965 my late wife worked in what had been the Ercoupe factory in Riverdale, MD NE of Wash, DC. At the time it was being used by Link Systems to develop trainers for space shuttles and the 747.
There is so much aviation history within just a very few miles of that facility. We used to drag race on the old runway there. Less than a mile away is College Park airpot where the Wright brothers taught the first Air Corps pilots, first parachute jump (I believe) and a lot of other firsts.
Ha, I missed this video, and I Love the looks of the Ericoupe due to the Twin Tails having flown 19 different B-18’s in night freight last Millennium 😂 That also Includes the turbine tail wheel WWIIIs and the HA-1 Turboliners. They didn’t like the Small grass strips I kept my planes at, So I had a 1947 C-140 & a 1952 C-170B there Until we moved. Loved them nonetheless 👍✅
>^. .^< As a line boy in high school in the mid 1960s as my after school n weekend job we has a few Ercoupes visiting per week. Since my car was a 1948 Jeepster droptop I have always been attracted to the Ercoupe............
(Humor). I had to preface my 'advice' to follow due to a pilot that thought I was serious. You aren't a real 'coupe pilot until you "loop the 'coupe." I have always enjoyed the 'coupe. Flight reviews are fraught with "ok, lets do a stall series." "AND... I WANNA' FULL BREAK!" Yeah right. How about a high sink rate? A full stall landing? Nope. How about a loop? There was at least one 'coupe that did aerobatics. It was the Twin 'coupe. Kinda' like the F(P)-82. Only much less lethal. Neat story if you dig it up. Wish I could have flown it.
Congratulations on adding, to your log, an a/c type not a lot of folks are still flying. As I'm sure your instructor told you, you've got great flying instincts.
Great video. Great airplane. I fly mine virtually all the time with the windows down but don't have so much air turbulence inside the cockpit. I never feel like my hair is blowing around or fear than my hat might fly off unless I really raise up in the seat. And I'm 5' 11" so sit up pretty high. Hope to see more videos as Maddie progresses with the 'Coupe.
Awesome! I recognized the landings immediately, I live right down the road from there and if i'm not mistaken by your profile picture you happen to be a co-worker of my dad.
Ercoupe has no rudder peddles which was ideal for handicap pilots! It was the only aircraft in history that was sold through a Montgomery Ward mail-order catalog!
Hi @quinnjim! So glad I ran into this video. I've watched you and Maddie lots of times and always enjoy it. Like the person below, I retired (somewhat early) and started learning to fly at 61. I am finally flying solo on the Cherokee and feel I can once again start looking for my first bird. Since Cherokees are insanely expensive these days and I sometimes struggle with X-Wind landings :) my CFI introduced the Ercoupe to me after seeing a beautiful example at Sun N' Fun a couple of weeks ago. I started looking at the 415C with no rudder pedals but now considering a Forney F1 (59') which does have RP's and the O-200 on it. Would love to get your take on it for my continued pursuit of the PPL. Not only did I enjoy watching Maddie master the TO and Landings on the Coupe but also your coaching to her is truly helpful to someone like me considering this type of bird. By the way did you ever put out a video of delivering the C-150 to TX? Perhaps i Missed it. Thanks as usual! VY
I think the Ercoupe is a great choice. I like the rudder pedals It’s hard to accept landing crooked as a good thing! The model we flew had an O-200 installed as a retrofit. They didn’t do the baffles correctly, so cooling to the rear cylinders wasn’t right. The rear right cylinder cooked itself and needed to be replaced (along with a custom baffle made to fit). There were other issues too. The first annual was $10,000. The plane had new paint and a fresh motor, so my buddy jumped on it. The point is that you need to do a pre buy by someone familiar with the model. It’s hard to explain how fun the Ercoupe is. I think you’d really like it. I do have some video of the Texas trip. The audio malfunctioned and ruined most of the footage. We went 60 knots for 700 miles. 30 knot headwinds the whole way! I may try to salvage some footage and put something together.
@@quinnjim Thanks for the quick reply. You're always spot on with your comments in my view and I really appreciate them. I drove to KSFB this morning to look at the F1 (N7571C) and so glad I did. Things are never what they seem based on pics from Trade-a-Plane, etc. This one also has the O-200 mod so glad to read the comments about the cooling and baffle issues which I will add to the pre-buy if I can agree on a price with the seller. It does have mostly fresh paint (all white) but I don't think it was a complete strip and paint deal. One of the rear windows, while new, did not sit properly on the window frame leaving a gap if that makes any sense. Shoulder harnesses need replaced (not retracting). Biggest surprise was a huge puddle of oil underneath, from the belly all the way to the tail cone. Since I only had about 30 minutes to do my thing I took lots of pics and a GoPro video. The seller wasn't in town but was kind enough to allow me to reach out to the FBO for access. My CFI owns a beautifully restored C-150 and has dreams of both of us showing up to Fly-ins in our vintage birds :-). I did call his mechanic on my way home and he explained that during the last annual they had to replace the Oil separator (I think) because the owners kept adding oil and the oil was going into the fuselage...crazy I know but it makes sense when you see all that oil. The mechanic said they did not have time to remove all of that oil (interesting). I think I have found someone at my home airport (XO4) that is familiar with Coupes and will reach out for advice. I'd appreciate any additional thoughts you might have. If you want to see some pics I'd love to share. oh one last thing...in one of the log books there was a note (on the back cover) that said 1400# max gross and Uload: full fuel & oil 355#. Not sure it that was with the original engine but that seems was low to me and would be a deal breaker. Vic
@@flyvxy The original plane had a much smaller engine (so low useful load). I would think the useful load would be better with the O-200. I can tell you that the one I flew did fine with two 190 pound people and full fuel. The O-200’s are notorious for leaking oil. They are pretty solid engines, but every engine has the potential to go bad. Make sure they check that the baffles are correct. If any air can leak out of gaps, you will get hot spots on the cylinders.
@@quinnjim hey again! So wanted to share that I found an Ercoupe in Decatur, IL I think I want to buy. It's located at KDEC and its is a 415-D but with a C-85-12 instead of the O-200 and only ~500 SMOH. I've got all the logs and W&B (which is great at 568 U-load which surprised me). What I'm struggling with now is how to do a pre-buy in Decatur. I think you are in IL but not sure how familiar you are with Decatur but was wondering if you had any contacts I could use for a pre-buy...I'd appreciate any advice you can provide. My email is flyvxy@pm.me and my number is 407-493-4099. I am getting an insurance quote through AOPA but feel free to share my info with Maddie if she is still doing the insurance thing and I'll be happy to give her the business :-). Thanks, Vic Yordan
@@flyvxy Unfortunately Decatur is 200 miles South of me. I wish I knew of a mechanic down there. They are pretty simple airplanes. I'd Google a shop on the field down there and get somebody to take a look. Let me know how it turns out!
With A Raspberrypi3, bluetooth, position limit sensors, and servo motors you can cheaply build feedback pedals to give the general feel of rudders to aid in the learning process.
Most came with NO rudder pedals. This one had rudder pedals added later, but they only move the rudders on the tail surfaces (they don't steer on the ground). You really don't need them.
I picked one up and flew it back to Michigan from Perry Oklahoma. This was years ago but I remember it fondly and was an incredible 900 miles of pure fun!
In 1980 I flew and instructed in a 415-C Ercoupe (N87420) at Detroit City Airport (DET). It didn't have any rudder pedals at all. Everything you did laterally, on the ground or in the air, was all done with the control wheel. It has to have been the funnest airplane I have ever flown.
Flew a 415-C for a while. Was one of the funnest little planes to go mess around in! It had rudder pedals installed. First time taxiing it I kinda freaked out when mashing on the pedals did nothing! And found out the hard way that dropping below 80 on landing results in a high sink rate, and a well-deserved chewing out from the owner!
I fly approach in my Ercoupe at 75 all the time. 70 over the numbers. Kiss it on. Mr Weick preached to land it as slow as it would go, though it was built to land at a very high speeds, also. Once the nose is down, it's not going to fly again at any speed (if it's rigged properly.) The wing should naturally have a slightly negative angle of attack while on the ground.
Every time I try to taxi an Ercoupe, I keep stabbing on the brake pedal by accident. It's like when I have occasion to drive a car with an automatic transmission, I always jam on the brake once or twice, going for the clutch that isn't there!
Great vid and fine flying. Good to see a 'coupe' in the air. I have the cockpit section of 1946 Ercoupe N3188H sat in my yard for restoration. I need to make a set of those sliding canopy halves. May be an odd question but do you happen to know the thickness of the perspex?
quinnjim sites.google.com/sit That's the website. Email the webmaster and he will advise of where and when things are happening. I'm down in west central IL. Get up that way regularly with the Mooney I fly
I haven't been on in a while. Cool video. Love the plane. I'm not sure if Maddie and Alex are still in touch or not. He was super busy this summer with classes, working and lessons. Isn't she a freshman this year or are they both sophomores? I can't recall.
It looked uncoordinated pretty often, is that because of weird rudders, or the steering wheel, or were there crazy crosswinds you guys weren't talking about?
You don't lose much in a shallow turn. In steep turns, you have to pull back on the yoke to create more lift and then you have to add some power to overcome the drag you created.
Lovely aeroplane! So what happens when you have a big cross wind? How do you keep the into-wind wing down when on the take-off run or after landing if that also means you will be steering the Ercoupe with the nosewheel link? Do you keep the nose wheel off the ground as long as possible?
You land it crooked (in a crab, right on the centerline). It straightens itself out just like all tricycle gear planes. The gear is designed to take it. The takeoff is a little weird in a strong crosswind. The upwind wing does tend to lift off first. As you are getting blown to the side, you are steering the nosewheel to correct the path, and that is the same aileron movement you need to counter the upwind wing.
a friend at the airport has an ercoupe he put together it turned out awesome great little plane to fly heres a little note its not classified as a light sport its a certified airplane but a sport license can fly these
i was at an F A A meeting yesterday and asked a friend about it he just restored one and thats what he told me he knew im a student pilot going for my light sport and i was asking if he was interested in selling it thats all i know you could be absolutly right
The sky is the limit for her. Her natural love of flying not to mention a fantastic instructor whom just happens to be her Dad. Great job to both od you.
@@quinnjim ...wow! who knew! my Dad flew these things...back in the 1950s...when you could 'rent them' in So. Cal. he was a 27 year air force veteran and Pilot...and ended up with PATCO...as Controller at McCarran Tower...years '67 to 74. Anyway...what's funny to me is...that's a higher approach speed required...than in a 172...by like...15 or so knots??!!... Ha ha!.... so be it. thanks for the info. i imagine that just meant...'established approach, no less than 80...then over the numbers...we're bleeding to controlled stall over the pavement, which would have you down to 70 or less...by then, yeah? cheers!
@@drumdude46 The approach speed is 80MPH (that's about 70 knots). Keep in mind that this plane does not have flaps, so that means you come in a little faster. 70 knots isn't too fast though. My Cessna 150 comes in at 60 knots because it has flaps (which allow for a slower approach speed).
The gear do not caster. It's build to land crabbed and to straighten itself out naturally once on the ground. It'll land with crosswind components strong enough to keep virtually every other plane on the ground. My strongest so far was a 20 knot coming from 90 degrees. I was major crabbed on touch down. Straightened right out just as advertised. I only had about ten hours in it at the time.
Welcome back. Since I am not a pilot I learned something new about the Ercoupe that you steer it like a car you never can miss it when one flies by. Next step is for Maddie solo?
