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Maddog 50cc Final Drive Gear Up Kit for 90cc 139QMB. Buyer Beware 

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How to figure out what size primary and secondary gear sets you have and how to determine what gear set you need. A look at what NCY Gear Sets and Glixel offers. Then testing for added top speed.
How to install the 50cc Gear Up Kit: • How to Install Final D...

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@hoedemakerbart
@hoedemakerbart Месяц назад
Most profit is in a lower secundairy gearing. I installed a lot of primary kits, usually all they do is give the bike less top rpm and s bit more speed but not always
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@@hoedemakerbart I could not find any lower gears than the 15/52. I would like to actually gear it down
@hoedemakerbart
@hoedemakerbart Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench AliExpress
@hoedemakerbart
@hoedemakerbart Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench many times primary has a bad fit or wont fit at all, lately i had this with a doppler kit.. very bad engineering
@Smodlee
@Smodlee 22 дня назад
So what’s the best gearing for these Chinese scooters
@hoedemakerbart
@hoedemakerbart 22 дня назад
@@Smodlee if you upgrade the gy6 50cc to 80/90cc kit with the head and race cam,only then i would go lower gearing, 50cc is not strong enough . Stock secundairy i dont know out of my head, but should be around 15/51 so if you go like 17/48 you will have more top speed
@SpAcEcruizer203
@SpAcEcruizer203 Месяц назад
Gearing up my mini was the best thing I did not like anybody cares but with a 15 /60 vm22 header pipe we cookin 💪🏼💯💨💨💨
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
Ya that is a 212cc right? Quite a bit more power than the 50.
@seanmayo206
@seanmayo206 4 дня назад
Im reving 9 an a half to 10. 80cc kit. Pwk 21mm . I hit 42mph if phone gps was accurate. Irs a gen v
@frednetherlands887
@frednetherlands887 Месяц назад
Thank you.
@thelagmeister
@thelagmeister Месяц назад
Another great video. Have you balanced your wheels? I wouldn't have gone anymore than a 7% increase on my old 171cc, but with a stroker or 180cc+ I would go higher.
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@thelagmeister I have NOT balanced them. This bike I bought in 2024 new in the box says 2022 on title so for 2 years the tire has sat on a piece of angle iron and has a dent in it giving it a vibration.
@Smodlee
@Smodlee Месяц назад
My gearing is 15/52 I was looking at the 17/49 like u where and I have that 90cc BBK wonder if I’ll make it past 50mph with that speed more then what your 50cc is doing
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@@Smodlee mine is 90cc and big valve head and NCY Cam etc also... I wouldn't think so. I'm pulling it out.
@frednetherlands887
@frednetherlands887 Месяц назад
Can I bother you with another question. What is the app you use to record your rides and that shows the speed in the upper left hand corner together with a compass direction? Thank you.
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
That is the GPS "sticker" on the GoPro 9 black. I just bought a new gopro 12 black and go pro has removed this feature. They must be talking to iPhone. WTF. So pissed as that is the main feature I like. The 9 is old and been ran over a few times so figured I would upgrade. It was a downgrade. LOL
@frednetherlands887
@frednetherlands887 Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench thank you. I own a knock off Chinese brand of Go Pro and it doesn't have the feature either. I will try to find a phone app to do this.
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@frednetherlands887 I guess there is some phone app guys use to overlay maps and speeds on their videos for new gopro that everyone uses so gopro dropped the feature. I have to get smart on that.
@frednetherlands887
@frednetherlands887 Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench thank you. I will check as well.
@user-gz4gi8qu6o
@user-gz4gi8qu6o 29 дней назад
Hello, I have a peugeot kisbee from 2022 with 139qmb injection. It has a polini variator and runs now about 37mph. Do you know how i can make it faster?
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench 29 дней назад
@user-gz4gi8qu6o do you know what RPM you are at when 37mph? Also is the variator 95mm Polini "speed" variator? It takes a lot of power from like a bug bore kit and cam etc to turn a larger variator than the 87mm stock one.
@user-gz4gi8qu6o
@user-gz4gi8qu6o 28 дней назад
@@GhettoWrench no i dont Know the rpm. So I should try the Orginal variater again?
@seanmayo206
@seanmayo206 Месяц назад
I'm not sure but I put in bigger piston an it revved higher with the stock CDI an the adjustable cdi . Then I knew the gearing wasn't what it should an then the back affects it. If your drag racing you want a low gear which is a higher number. It's backwards obviously. Imagine that
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
I can't find lower gears for this than 14/62 that was in there. Only thing I been able to do to gear it down is that smaller tire and it went faster. Guess I can put smaller variator in but seems like I'm going in circles.
@Smodlee
@Smodlee 23 дня назад
So what’s the sweet spot for the gear ratio for these 90cc BBK? To get 50+mph
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench 20 дней назад
@Smodlee I went back to stock gears. 15/52. But I'm also running a 95mm variator which is a pretty good gear up step
@djilu9916
@djilu9916 Месяц назад
insane how much elevation and atmosphere affects tuning, u running a 110 main while im running a 85 in the mountains lol
@Smodlee
@Smodlee Месяц назад
I’m running a 100 main and 38 pilot on a 90cc BBK with a pwk21 carb and uni filter and I’m getting 49 mph with 6g weights and stock clutch.
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@@Smodlee for sure. Then the guys out west at sea level run like 130s since they have zero humidity. 49 is moving. Does it have the fat tire .... maddog?
@Smodlee
@Smodlee Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench no flat tire it’s a 2022 vitacci Denali 50
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@Smodlee oh ya. For sure faster than a maddog.
@Smodlee
@Smodlee Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench hey don’t have the link where u got the gear up set??
@hesperidesbell4643
@hesperidesbell4643 Месяц назад
Couldnt you adjust rollers to keep the engine within that rpm range?
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
I guess but I am just going in circles. They are already at 4 grams. If I go grams they have good RPM but push the belt up the variator. Still no faster. I am gonna try a smaller variator next.. but just going in circles again. Gearing down the CVT to make up for gearing up the rear
@hesperidesbell4643
@hesperidesbell4643 Месяц назад
​@@GhettoWrenchI keep coming back to this video a lot. I finally got that 72cc BBK on and it's gonna be time to tune my CVT and gearing soon.
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench 29 дней назад
@hesperidesbell4643 when I bump up the RPM with lighter rollers it just has high RPM and goes even slower. I'm like a dog chasing my tail. I was at 4g and the 3g won't push the variator all the way so it never gets in high gear
@hesperidesbell4643
@hesperidesbell4643 29 дней назад
​@@GhettoWrench how does the wear line on the pulley look when you check after those rollers? EDIT: a lot of the groups I'm in on Facebook swear by polini CVT parts and I've seen a few claims that you can get a stock 139QMB to 50-55 with those parts. Idk how true it is but what I was wanting to do now is compare the polini parts to the kits like glixal, rolling wrench, malossi, stage 6, etc
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench 29 дней назад
@hesperidesbell4643 I'm going all the way to the top of the polini. The maddogs are slow with their big ass heavy golf cart wheel and tire. I could easily see a regular 50 scooter doing 55. I made my buddies go 53 with a skinnier tire but still stretched. It had a NCY 95mm variator for a DIO thar I customized to fit. I liked it better than the polini.
@thefightingchance
@thefightingchance Месяц назад
Do the ambiguous ncy one. It has unicorn dust in it. Gets your get the zoomies. 🦄🌈
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
Worth a try at this point. LOL
@soqqiqi642
@soqqiqi642 Месяц назад
hey are u in florida? i'm in florida and near the coast would like to know which jets to get for 50cc gy6 going to buy bbk for it soon, 72cc!
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@soqqiqi642 no idea. Every bike is different. Will you run a bigger carburetor or run the stock one?
@ThePitProductions
@ThePitProductions Месяц назад
What about different contra spring to keep the rpm higher longer?
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
My issue is the rpm at top speed is too low. It's nice everywhere else. The contra spring should not lower that. And it it did then I would be just holding in a lower gear which also would be slower.
@ThePitProductions
@ThePitProductions Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench well I guess I thought we want our motors in the powerband as long as possible. Are you making most power at 6500 rpm? Lighter weights now to get you the rpm higher before they are fully out? I really don't know this stuff. It's all guessing and theory for now. Feel free to head up and help work on the dyno anytime.
@ThePitProductions
@ThePitProductions Месяц назад
Oh, and the white with green splashes looks clean. Very nice looking build.
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench Месяц назад
@ThePitProductions I got thinking about what you said later and it might actually be worth trying. Like a manual transmission. Use a heavy contra spring to hold that shift till the rpms are higher. Hmm. I think I have a yellow one.
@ThePitProductions
@ThePitProductions Месяц назад
@@GhettoWrench I think the main thing to consider here is that it should not be A shift, it is a continuous variation of the ratio. The idea is to keep the engine rpm right where we want it. If it was 2 stroke you would make sure the bike was "in the power" as much and as long as possible.
@seanmayo206
@seanmayo206 Месяц назад
Women an qvc an us Chinese scooter partd
@Brujiito333
@Brujiito333 4 дня назад
You need to buy programable computer
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench 3 дня назад
@@Brujiito333 like a fuel computer or for timing?
@Brujiito333
@Brujiito333 3 дня назад
@@GhettoWrench the 2
@GhettoWrench
@GhettoWrench 3 дня назад
@Brujiito333 well fuel will not improve unless it is fuel injected and that costs too much for these cheapo bikes. An AFR will only help tune jet size and once that throttle is open all that matters is main Jet size and it is the only adjustable parameter. You will still adjust that for speed and not stoichiometric mixture so no improvement there. As far as timing, a computer can not advance ignition timing so again, once up to RPM you can only retard from a fixed mechanical point on the flywheel. These are sitting at 28 ish degrees so there is no advancement available.
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