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Madonna: The Silent Note: How Ageism Mutes Women in Pop 

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@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
What’s your favourite Madonna song???
@TheFVSousa
@TheFVSousa 4 месяца назад
Erotica ❤
@reichen609
@reichen609 4 месяца назад
I didn't grow up too exposed to her and so I'm not really a fan. But that song "Frozen" is one of my _idiosyncratic favorites_ that I can't really place into any of my many preferred genres of music. I'm a naturally bright-hearted guy (with a secret, underlying *"Wrathful **#Magneto**" complex,* hence my angry-sounding YT folders 🤫). But that song forces me to feel so barren & bleak inside. AND I LOVE IT! Since it's a stark departure from my "default enthusiastic mode." There are ONLY 2 other songs that elicit this reaction from the crevices of my soul- All Saints' _The Beach_ and Keane's _Bedshaped,_ that I've collected so far. Although these 2 kind of progress to a more hopeful tone by the end, akin to a main character surviving a serial killer in a horror movie. 😱 Madonna's _Frozen_ just keeps me feeling so "empty" inside until the end . . . and that's saying a lot since I'm inundated with multiple vivid thoughts & feelings every single minute, being an above average empath & fiction writer and all. All the more making 'Frozen' such a unique addition to my music catalogue. A welcome feeling of barrenness, if that doesn't sound so weird. What about you, friend? Do you happen to know other songs that sound like 'Frozen'? I'm curious. 🙂
@mehdib9305
@mehdib9305 4 месяца назад
Among the less famous ones: To have and not to hold Spanish eyes Forbidden love (1994) Inside of me Thief of hearts Waiting Secret garden Rebel heart Bittersweet Live yo tell Words Rain Paradise Gone Easy ride Devil pray wash all over me You’ll see Rescue me The look of love
@myfriendisaac
@myfriendisaac 4 месяца назад
NOTHING REALLY MATTERS 💣🔥🎧
@rachelyoungdesteny9295
@rachelyoungdesteny9295 4 месяца назад
Honestly i love most of her songs but the ones that really stand out to me were ghosttown_ hung up_la isla bonita_masterpiece and love spent and papa dont preach and power of goodbye and forbidden love 2005 Yeah these songs i cannot skip they r amazing 🤩
@helgafever768
@helgafever768 4 месяца назад
Madonna is 65 and 41 years of career. Her Celebration Tour sold out 81 shows in 14 countries. She's the Queen 😊
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 Месяц назад
I recently made a new video concerning Madonna & I would love to read your views
@stevenduvall2549
@stevenduvall2549 4 месяца назад
She might be muted on radio, but she just finished a huge world tour that was widely successful and sold out shows in the first day that the tickets were released. There were over a million people in her audience in Rio.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Did you get to see the tour at all?
@Powhart
@Powhart 3 месяца назад
You won't be able to state any facts when it comes to this lady. There are literally no male singers who are achieving half of what Madonna is doing while being her age, but she'll keep on repeating as if ageism affects women more... Victim mentality...
@danavixen6274
@danavixen6274 4 месяца назад
It takes a lot of strong will and sheer DEFIANCE to be over 40 in the entertainment industry! What Madonna, Janet, Cher, Kylie, Anastacia, Mariah and the GREAT Tina have/had done is BEYOND commendable! ❤
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 Месяц назад
I’ve uploaded a new video on Madonna, I’d love to read your views on the subject
@myfriendisaac
@myfriendisaac 4 месяца назад
The best to EVER do it 🤷🏾‍♂️👑💐 Madonna never lost her nerve, humor, power! & she has the BEST music videos!
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 Месяц назад
I’ve uploaded a new video on Madonna, I’d love to read your views on the subject
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 4 месяца назад
Look at Madonna now. Playing the biggest concert of her life. Kylie winning her second Grammy. Cher at 77 hitting 1# on Christmas. Longevity is real and traditional media is the one element that's now, obsolete.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
It’s great opposition to the industry
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 4 месяца назад
@@divatalk9011 true
@Downfall1990
@Downfall1990 4 месяца назад
Madonna talk starts at 3.20
@hughw2377
@hughw2377 4 месяца назад
I hate this double standard for women when their male counter parts don't face the same criticism!
@Powhart
@Powhart 3 месяца назад
Show me a male singer/musician over 60 who had over 1 milion people attending his concert. I'll wait.
@raywright8226
@raywright8226 4 месяца назад
The music "industry" (plus the film industry) love the "next young thing" because these kids don't know any better and can be abused by the industry. The older artists (who survived it) have figured out the BS, and the "industry" keep them at arm's length and tries to discredit them.
@XxVirginBabyxX
@XxVirginBabyxX 4 месяца назад
Damn, that is so true!
@christalweb4531
@christalweb4531 4 месяца назад
From what I've heard, Radio 1 is notoriously ageist. Apart from not playing any Madonna and Kylie Minogue songs. They refused to play Cliff Richard when he hit Christmas number 1 with Millennium Prayer in 2000 when he was sixty and also refused to play any Robbie Williams songs once he hit 40.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Its so disgusting; I believe this is just the tip of the iceberg
@mehdib9305
@mehdib9305 4 месяца назад
Thank you do much for this well done video. It’s nice to include the queen of pop Madonna. Some of her latest work did not get the deserved attention.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
I’ve always loved Ghost town
@TheFVSousa
@TheFVSousa 4 месяца назад
It’s sad to see so many queer and women people hating on Madonna, but wait, everyone ages and their time will come soon!
@rachelyoungdesteny9295
@rachelyoungdesteny9295 4 месяца назад
They dont truley see her power in this case madonna can always have a great message and music about fun topics They r just blinded by rumors and shit talks that other celebs did on her
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 Месяц назад
I’ve uploaded a new video on Madonna, I’d love to read your views on the subject
@vickycalta2282
@vickycalta2282 4 месяца назад
This needs to change! Thank you for this video!
@gswizzy17
@gswizzy17 4 месяца назад
There are very few artists I respect as much as Madonna. She could sing, dance, and wrote most if not all of her music and pioneered the way for newer Pop Stars. Me Against the music is a great track. It’s like the passing of the torch
@LambentOrt
@LambentOrt 4 месяца назад
Thank you for pointing out the ageism that is rife within the entertainment industry. I have always loved what Madonna stands for. To me, she embodies the spirit of rebellion, freedom and tenacity. You may not always agree with her politics and publicity stunts, you may not even have to like her music, but no one can deny the fact that she has broken so many barriers and blazed the path for subsequent generations of pop singers. Personally, I fell out of love with her music post-Confessions, but it's only because I don't really listen to pop music anymore in my older age. But I truly admire her continuing dedication to making new music, her relentless work ethic, and her ability to reach out to new fans. This only confirms that she is one of the greatest pop singers of all time.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 Месяц назад
I’ve uploaded a new video on Madonna, I’d love to read your views on the subject
@popland1977
@popland1977 4 месяца назад
Radio is so sneaky
@EclesysGalaxy
@EclesysGalaxy 4 месяца назад
we should all join force and bring back our main pop girls to the charts, let's save the music industry!!
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Where do I sign up?!!!
@victorgabrielvilhenaribeir3181
@victorgabrielvilhenaribeir3181 4 месяца назад
Loved this vid!!!!! You put everything into the right perspective and I hope that as time goes by, ageism stops being a thing
@alexd1121
@alexd1121 4 месяца назад
I think it affects everyone men and women. And then there’s Barbra Streisand.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
I said her name in that remix song hahaha
@publicidad.gratis
@publicidad.gratis 28 дней назад
It's not about age, it's about her current behaviour that actually contradicts what she says about ageism.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 27 дней назад
@@publicidad.gratis I’d love to read more in detail about this??
@ownyourcrazy8734
@ownyourcrazy8734 4 месяца назад
It's the quality of the song, not the age of the artist, that matters most.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
I wish the industry felt the same
@tarikmehmedika2754
@tarikmehmedika2754 3 месяца назад
This is just insane, these ladies are all in my opinion greatest artists, it would be better to control how old the oldest politicians can be to rule a country and not how old the oldest artist needs to be for his or her music to be played anywhere !
@ev569
@ev569 3 дня назад
Madonna will have the last laugh when she outlives everybody who had something to say about her age
@starchild1595
@starchild1595 4 месяца назад
Madonna, still showing the girls how its done.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 Месяц назад
I’ve uploaded a new video on Madonna, I’d love to read your views on the subject
@Yestequesecree
@Yestequesecree 4 месяца назад
I subscribed for more, just because I’ve never received an answer with actions from a content creator, and you delivered. So, thank you my friend, wish you success with this project. Well done ⚡️
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Thanks very much! I appreciate your comment! What kind of videos would you be interested in seeing in the future?
@Yestequesecree
@Yestequesecree 4 месяца назад
@@divatalk9011 ok, I thought about it, what about, what happen when a pop girl speaks her mind? Are they aloud to have opinions on serious subjects, such as politics, race or religion? / that was just an idea hehe, have a great day! (Thinking about Madonna, the Dixie chicks, Beyoncé, and apparently T Swift right now)
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
I made a video about how Sinead O Connor was cancelled when she spoke her mind, not sure if you’re familiar with her
@Yestequesecree
@Yestequesecree 4 месяца назад
@@divatalk9011 yes, I thought about her, but I thought it was too old for you to know hahaha, even though I have no idea how old are you lol. Gonna check it out later. Thx 😜
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
I’m actually 33 ha, so I was both the same year she released Nothing Compares 2U, as a fellow Irish person though, I seriously respect her for being one of the first to talk about the horrors of the Catholic Church in Ireland
@swooningtree
@swooningtree 4 месяца назад
Super interesting and based video
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Read that as biased first and was getting ready for battle 😂
@swooningtree
@swooningtree 4 месяца назад
@@divatalk9011 Haaa no I just really agree. So maybe I'm biased and you're based. The way people still talk about older female musicians and artists is WILD.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
I hate the mantra put forward that older artists just don’t make good music. When often their music just doesn’t get the platform it once did
@micca903
@micca903 3 месяца назад
Yeah I don’t believe for a second that record exec said that. Can we name some big-time pop diva of the last fifty years that didn’t show their behind in some music video that’s not Adele or arguably Taylor Swift? It’s just not in their interest to tell her to button up like a good Christian woman. I’m sorry but it’s never railroaded anyone’s career before so I don’t see why it would be recommended now. Maybe it’s because they want to attract a bigger female audience, I can believe that being the reason.
@oxoxoxoxo1155
@oxoxoxoxo1155 4 месяца назад
Geri from spice girls was 23 and said 21 not 25
@idontwanttogiveoutmyfullname
@idontwanttogiveoutmyfullname 2 месяца назад
why the fuck is no body talking more about this. This is a problem
@Downfall1990
@Downfall1990 4 месяца назад
I think Madonna fell into the trap of becoming a parody of her former self. However the industry has done everything it can to block her airplay for the last ten years too
@BozeDoesGodsWork
@BozeDoesGodsWork 4 месяца назад
This is probably the best comment on here regarding the subject ngl. The others are bringing up politics and respectability BS. Madonna just got too caught up in the shock. No ifs ands or buts about it. The industry also has their part to play in it too. Unfortunately Madonna’s shock antics sometimes dug her own grave.
@myfriendisaac
@myfriendisaac 4 месяца назад
That’s an opinion. A rather hideous one 🤷🏾‍♂️😂💯 Her adventurous spirit was present from her debut to Madame X.
@TheFVSousa
@TheFVSousa 4 месяца назад
So you think Madonna is a parody of herself because she remains more or less the same person? That’s such a fallacy… it’s the same as saying that because she’s older now she may not be the same or act the same she did in the past. Pure ageism!
@Downfall1990
@Downfall1990 4 месяца назад
@@TheFVSousa Madonna hasn’t adapted. It’s the same tired thrusting and shocking content that looks desperate now. Cher and Tina Turner still could be exciting in their 60s without looking desperate, nothing to do with age
@stevenduvall2549
@stevenduvall2549 4 месяца назад
​@@Downfall1990 Nobody who sells out a world tour in hours and plays to over a million people in one night is desperate.
@PureSparkles22
@PureSparkles22 4 месяца назад
Beyonce is in her 40's and still relevant
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Exceptions prove the rule
@ChrisJohnson-ng6zd
@ChrisJohnson-ng6zd 4 месяца назад
Donna Summer made some great music later in her career
@JulioGomezNYC
@JulioGomezNYC 4 месяца назад
But nobody heard it nor bought it. That's the point
@Isa_barchetta
@Isa_barchetta 4 месяца назад
Tina Turner was famouse when she was young but she becamee the icon,the star, that she is with 45 ...
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Which was exceptional! However, how many careers have been like Tina?
@Isa_barchetta
@Isa_barchetta 4 месяца назад
@@divatalk9011 shes was very special ,very gifted Artist. Respected females in Music...there are plenty. Im a huge Kate Bush Fan since i was little, KB mastered her Albums Like no one else. Not only Singer,songwriter And dancer..she impresses me AS a producer so much because thats also a Differenz skill.And of Course i respect Madonna very much, shes just great änd brillant.
@tlkaleig
@tlkaleig 4 месяца назад
40s is still quite young
@geraldsoon957
@geraldsoon957 4 месяца назад
Has the BBC been relevant?
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
With Tik tok, radio is less and less important, but you can’t plant going viral online either .
@Powhart
@Powhart 3 месяца назад
You don't need proof, facts or anything to claim your ideas. You just need to "feel" like it's true and you are selling "Your truths" everywhere. But no. Ageism affect women in music industry less nowadays than it affects men. And those are facts. I hate the fact that you keep on spreading the same lies and people are buying it.
@Pyramids19
@Pyramids19 3 месяца назад
How many 65 year old men are played on young radio stations? She didn’t fight for other female singers when they weren’t allowed on radio when she was young! Now she as a problem with it. Your old get over it
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 3 месяца назад
Hater
@khairularchi
@khairularchi 4 месяца назад
Madonna suffered by her own curse that she'd made right from the beginning of her career, women's liberalism.. she just has to go through these consequences that those she'd identified with and fighting for during her entire career.
@BozeDoesGodsWork
@BozeDoesGodsWork 4 месяца назад
Nothing wrong with womens liberalism. There’s a lot of liberal elderly women that age gracefully and are sweet as hell. Betty White is living proof son. Madonna just got too consumed with shock value. Though I hate to compare the two Gaga herself was quite the shock artist aswell. But she didn’t really take the Madonna route and keep on doing it. She branched out into a more serious lane and became one hell of an actress. After looking at Evita it made me realize that Madonna could have been an amazing actress. She just didn’t have the power to choose good scripts like she did her music.
@khairularchi
@khairularchi 4 месяца назад
@@BozeDoesGodsWork certainly it's nothing wrong with women's liberalism. What I'm emphasised about Madonna is that her choosing her own subject of liberty in the way that itself is a curse. Same case with Lana for an instant. There's will always be consequences of that which they have to just go through it in a good or another regardless.
@tlkaleig
@tlkaleig 4 месяца назад
@@BozeDoesGodsWork Madonna is only in her 60s Also Lady so and so's acting is literally garbage
@Kevin-1969
@Kevin-1969 2 месяца назад
They are too old and greedy, just pack it in, you hard your hits and glory days now buzz of and give the younger artists a chance. I am 55, I was around and seen them mostly Madonna in her day, the others like Cher and Minogue are not in her league.
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 2 месяца назад
Then buzz off social media you old fart & give the younger kids a chance to comment
@matsudaseiko
@matsudaseiko 4 месяца назад
nope, it's the personality, just look at mariah and kylie and janet and paula they're all nice people their fans will always supports them. and for our once beloved madge she thought her die hard fans were stupid thus deserves to be mistreated and then those that's been ripped off by her too like Jellybean Benitez, alanis morissette, willi ninja........the list just goes ON AND ON AND ON it is down to how bad she was as a person not ageism !..........sigh
@divatalk9011
@divatalk9011 4 месяца назад
Then why does she out tour all them combined?
@carlpacheco2058
@carlpacheco2058 4 месяца назад
No, the issue isn’t Madonna’s age, the issue is that her music is objectively BAD and has been for a while, her last good album was Confessions 20 years ago. Others like Kylie and Mylene Farmer keep making good pop albums, and being sexy without being gross about it.
@BozeDoesGodsWork
@BozeDoesGodsWork 4 месяца назад
Nah not all of her new music is bad. Ghost town is fucking underrated as hell and should have gotten more play. As for her antics I just see her as one of those wild crazy elderly women. There’s nothing new under the sun. Women who age like Madonna exist everyday. The type of elderly women who try to be hip and do all the trends and stuff like that. Though as for her sexual antics they are getting a bit out of control. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to keep up with the times and have some youthful energy about yourself.
@myfriendisaac
@myfriendisaac 4 месяца назад
“Objectively bad” is WILD coming from a random individual 🤷🏾‍♂️😂 COADF is my least favorite Madonna album, so your opinion is *just that.*
@TheFVSousa
@TheFVSousa 4 месяца назад
Objectively bad? That’s your opinion, so by default it’s simply subjective!
@XXXRIPROACH
@XXXRIPROACH 4 месяца назад
Im 20 and her newer music is better than her 80s music just sucks it doesn’t get pushed like other younger artist that make mid to terrible music
@anisioc.3426
@anisioc.3426 4 месяца назад
Madame X is so much better than Confessions!
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