Mahomes wins Super Bowl & 2nd SB MVP: How much has he closed the gap with Brady? | NFL | UNDISPUTED 

Bayless is a prisoner of revisionist history. Vinateiri deserved MVP of the first two Patriot Super Bowls. The Falcons AND the Seahawks chokes deserve MVP of one Super Bowl each. That leaves Brady with three - THREE - Super Bowl wins where it isn't necessarily easy to point at a different player or a weird situation as the reason for a player's individual Super Bowl "success."

Just think if Mahomes was on the Cowboys would skip love him 😅😅😅

Sit Down Richard Sherman! When you try me with some sorry facts like Sherman we tell em to sit down!!!!

Exactly. According to Bayless… no one can surpass MJ or Tom Brady. Even if Mahomes wins the same 7 rings and does the 1st 3peat in Football just because Mahomes loss to Tom Brady. So do we consider Eli Manning better than Tom because Tom never beat Eli in the SB? Absolutely not, it’s ridiculous 😂

We need to.give shout out to Andy Reid. ❤

Brady clutched on him tho

@@itsjason8097I think that will be what keeps him from the Goat debate!

@@ricocameron2426Not really, mahomes is better at playing qb than brady.

No arm talent isnt close to Rodgers. Mahomes does have the total package tho

Rodgers Special teams and defenses have literally got him sent packing year after year

No he wouldn't skip loves greatness... If Mahomes passed Brady... He would admit it... He did the same thing with early Brady... Attacked his credentials, when people compared him to Montana... Wasn't until he truly started coming close to Montana that he gave him all the credit... His favorite players are Jordan and Brady.. The moment sometime passes them, they will become his favorite player too.. Mahomes has to do a lot more still to come near Brady... Let alone pass him.. Let's just say he's on right trajectory... But 3 titles and 2 MVPs does not make the GOAT

Until Mahomes wins 6 rings with 6 game winning drives, and then goes to Tampa in a Covid year and no training camp and wins another, he won’t be better.

@@julianmayo5650 but he’s more “goat” than majority of the quarterbacks that you and majority of fans think are better than Mahomes ! Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Hurts, Dak, Cousins, Purdy 💀 all these guys are NOBODY compared to Mahomes yet you guys wanna crown them every year. Nobody is better than Mahomes, meek hating.

Nah, if Mahomes passes Brady, he becomes the goat. But the thing people forget is that Tom Brady has 7 Superbowl rings. SEVEN!! That’s 2.3 times as many as Mahomes. AND Brady beat Mahomes in a Superbowl. People seem to forget about that. Look, Mahomes is a beast. And the best quarterback in the league. No questions. But he’s not the goat…..yet. He’s definitely on a trajectory to be the goat. But he’s not yet. Once he passes Tom , he then becomes the goat.

If he gets 5 I'm putting him in the conversation. He will match Montana

That’s not what he’s doing that’s skip LOL

Discredit how ? By saying Tom Brady is still the best to ever do it You just sound salty

cause mahomes beat him 😂😂

@@petecolon162bc he basically saying he has to get to 7. That’s why Micheal brought up Jordan and bill russell.

Sherman is a hater he will never admit it he beat him sometimes you have to deal with it

He IS the guy, and he’s going to be THE guy for the next 8-10 years probably.

Great comment!

White and black

Elway was not clutch, complete opposite actually

Clutchness of Elway..?

you were born in 2010

I agree. Mahomes is "that guy" and he's already solidified top 3 All time imo and has alot of football left.

Did you miss Aaron Rodgers my friend 2011 is the best QB season I've ever seen the throws he was routinely making I have never seen

Love and respect bro I’ll tell him u said it

@@kingthlaroonth1 season doesn’t solidify it. Mahomes 6 year run solidifies he’s the greatest talent

Cuz mahomes dethroned shermans 49ers twice and skip knows mahomes is on pace to challenge brady for the greatest qb of all time title

They made valid points. Mahomes is the best of this generation, but hold your horses before you put him past Montana or compare him to Brady

Becsuse mahomes is already declining, Brady was getting better year after year

@@brianhenry7983 Mahomes is in no way declining. Idk what you’re watching. Saying a guy that just won his 3rd Super Bowl and 2 back to back is declining is crazy. 😂

@@JD-ge9eb he's gotten incredible lucky and has been carried by his defense the last couple years. He's basically just a game manager nowadays who rides his defense. Without the best defense in the game mahomes can't win because his avengers aren't there or are about to retire. He's gonna get exposed as the fraud goat next year and every year after

So did Brady, including 6 game winning Super Bowl drives

The catalyst last night was a muffed punt

That’s literally all I know. When Brady threw interceptions and lost super bowls it was always belichick’s fault or the defenses fault.

@@GameTime-yj6qvBrady was not the first 3 sb

@@duvaltilwedie904 no, it was the defense fault that they couldn't stop Eli twice at the end of two Super Bowls or Nick Foles for an entire Super Bowl.

Hilarious😂

Sounds impressive to me and hes only gonna add to that resume

5 afc titles. 6 appearances

You need to revise your stat line

@@person-ce8cr No, 4 AFC titles.

I'm not the best at stats. I know Brady has shattered just about everything out there. I saw him in Ten SB's. I don't agree with these guys. Mahomes now has three!! And he's only a quarter into his career. Seven is very possible,with this guy. And I'll be the 1st to say, very well deserved. He's just that friggin amazing!! 🏈🏆🏆🏆

Foreal

Hes got 5 more to go let’s talk about this when pat gets 5

Not even close

To Montana

@@dylanallen5653that’s wrong he’s definitely getting there but he still has a way to go

Sometime it’s almost like listening to Biden talk about football

Cte

It’s always funny when you 🐦 🧠 miss a point lmao and think you’re the smart guys 😂

LMFAO 😂😂😂

He makes it borderline unwatchable 😅. Cutting everyone off

2 regular season mvps

@@mylessmith8059 Ok yea I guess they just made a minor mistake tho cuz the title says 2nd SB MVP

Stick Mahomes on a half decent team, and he'll bring the Lombardi home... who cares about whether he's recognised as the GOAT... he's a beast.

@@taykitrleevitt4314nah he is an Andy Reid product

@@tylers9476why Andy ain’t win with McNabb? What about Vick? Or Alex Smith? Andy coached 17 years y’all ain’t never put him as a GOAT coach. He plays 6 years with Mahomes and we are like oh Andy the GOAT LMAO

Facts lol

Lol there's a few new ones but they always have some weird person at the end cursing you for being a westerner

How am I even supposed to know the video is over if I don’t don’t hear Chinese at the end smh

bruh lmao@@GeminiMaddnezz864lyfe

Omggg did he die?

Brady had 3 at 27

Mahomes is declining, Brady was getting better 😂

Time will tell. For all we know this could be Patrick Mahomes last super bowl appearance or victory.. I doubt itll be his last but we'll have to see how the rest of his career plays out.

​@Doooooooo depends how long they can keep the band together

@@bern717brady had 0 league mvps at 27 and only 2 sb mvps st 27 mahomes has 2 of each and a third sb mvp at 28. Better stats in every facet and his playoff record is just as good. Mahomes is on pace to pass brady.

Brady played against harder competition

@@thereallegendarygaming1807not a team full of all-pros, 2 inside backers, great D-Line that consist of Hargreaves, Chase Young, Nick Bosa, n Armstead, with Ward on the backend, the 49ers team was designed n put together to try n beat Pat, they went in got McCaffrey, literally they was suppose to win, all that Cap n not win the big 1

Mos' Def'!!!!...the 1st 6 yrs of ones career, who is better?!!!!!

@@thereallegendarygaming1807all pat need is time, Brady got 7, Pat got 3 before the age of 30, better hope he don’t catch Brady

@@ItsKillaBouiethe 49ers have been overrated all year ! We ALL know Shanahan loses the big one , 0-3.

Sherman just hurt they lost again

​@@29freshprinceyeah but he has gronk tho

@@teeluc6889 I thought 9ers had it in the bag with the 10 point lead and their squad but Mahomes is a game changer such a nail bitter SB

And BRADY ONE MORE WITH LESS THEN ANY Q.B. HE HAD A COACH THAT REFUSED TO GIVE HIM HIGH TALENTED PLAYERS VIA FREE AGENCY AND THE DRAFT. REMEMBER BELLICHEK WAS THE G.M AS WELL.

Gronk dropped the ball… excuses both ways

@@dylanallen5653 The INT still would have literally given the chiefs the victory and sent them to the SB. It was that close to Mahomes beating Brady.

@@Riles3152 would have could have . He didn’t beat him

@@dylanallen5653Just like Tom Brady didn’t beat Eli or Nick Foles in the Super Bowl

You can disect so many plays in each big game for any player you want.

Been like that his whole career. Was never as good as revis. Couldntdo anything with him but throw him in the zone. And he lost his second ring and a chance at a dynasty cuz of the dumbest play in sports history

Never brings up the horrible game against the Rams. 21-35, 263yrds, 1int. At least 3 of his wins were because of the defense.

Wasn’t ridgers - bucs d line carried Brady cs packers n chiefs - packers had injuries to bakht their best o line both mahomes n ridgers were running to survive

@@leramfreeman2950Brady had 2 games where he didn’t win sbmvp when the award is basically only given to qbs.

@@leramfreeman2950Try 4-5

@@leramfreeman2950 Mahomes won 2 because of the refs

let’s not act like TB12 don’t win all his super l bowls with a top 10 defense

Skippy is visibly Choking on his HATRED! He can’t stand the thought of Mahomes being on par with Tommy! Makes Skippy drop his PACIFIER into his DIAPER! Waaa!!

Because labeling someone a GOAT when they havent reached that status yet is annoying. Its an especially annoying new thing this generation of fans do. I mean people forget Montana even exists. Brady had to get 5 to finally get past Montana, and people are acting like he doesnt even exist for Mahomes at 3-1. Not only that, one of hte key factors in WHY Brady couldnt pass Montana at 4-2, is beceause he lost 2 and Montana was so lights out in his 4 wins. Mahomes has not looked lights out in his SB. Even last night, it was pretty poor showing until the last quarter of the game. Let the guy earn the accolades before you give him the accolades. I expect Mahomes to win at least 5. Let him win the 5, and legit pass Montana before you start saying hes already better. Same goes for Brady's 7.

@ BlackSheep703...no...stop discrediting Tom while uplifting Mahomes... it goes both ways...Mahomes is chasing Tom not the other way around... ... "the tail can't wag the dog"...Brady is the standard...to late now... 1000 championships won't matter...he's gone...he's ghost...you're emphatically delusional...it's like..".the bully kicked you're keeysta, and when he's outta sight you flex your muscles...

@@jbceedeez When did I discredit Tom? Stop assuming you know my opinion on the matter and give your head a wobble.

That is quite hard to get to…

He has more rings than lamar, Josh allen, and Joe burrow will probably have combined when they end their season lol

True. He is. But he’s not the goat. Brady got 2.3 times as many superbowl rings AND he smashed Mahomes in a Superbowl 31-9. That being said, Mahomes is the best quarterback in the game currently. That’s undisputed. Can he become the goat? Yeah, most certainly. But until he gets 7 or more rings…he ain’t the goat.

And lost to Tom Brady twice in the playoffs!!! Good luck though!!!

@@Wargasm54 Brady played 17 more seasons than Mahommes currently

Lmao he salty cause PAT did him the same way his first superbowl when he was on 49ers

Pat beat his 49ers twice so now Sherman gotta result to the hate card

@@kevonsidek9737 lol and he was on the first time

He got smoked by the greatest in the Superbowl! Where was all the talent then?

@@1judauhngot smoked ? He had no o line they was all hurt and he still out played Brady and the first time Brady beat em was in afc championship over time only cause Dee ford jumped offsides for kc and that was his first year

​@Slatt34567 Excuses is all you wrote. History records what's in the win/loss column. People don't like excuses. L's are L's regardless.

Nah, 4-5 isn’t the goat. 7 is. Mahomes is amazing and the best QB in the league. He had the potential to be the goat. But if he wants to be better than Brady he needs 7 rings. Brady also beat him in the Super Bowl so there is that. I think 7 and smoking Brady in all stats is enough (and it he stays on his currently trajectory he will) let’s sit back and enjoy the ride and when he retires he can analyze if he he surpassed Brady

@@1judauhndamn, I must’ve missed Brady playing DE.

Skip be like I ruined my shoe for you Tom

Shannon was out of line for many shows until Skip checked him. Skip was right to get Shannon on board, but he also knew when to cut bait. I wish both Shannon and Skip the best going forward.

@@hume1234561 you clearly don’t watch the show Skip is always the one out of line

Skip is lucky Shannon didn't put hands on him. Shannon was the better analyst.

he picked the chiefs tho

@@davidto4964but he hates on mahomes

@@brandonjackson6323 only because he's getting close to his man crush brady. he praised the chiefs' draft pick at the start while others doubted him

Facts, weapons on weapons and still came up short but he’s young.

​@@Sparkyxicy we gonna ignore the injuries and his horrible o line lol 😂😂

Exactly!!!!! Proves that he is not HIM. But PATRICK is

Pressure Purdy he falls apart.

I wish everyone stop trying to short change Brock last in the draft second yr and in another superbowl. Brock didn't lose this this young man took Patrick to the 12 round and his coach choked.

Facts

You and Bayless are prisoners of revisionist history. Vinateiri deserved MVP of the first two Patriot Super Bowls. The Falcons AND the Seahawks choking deserve MVP of one Super Bowl each. That leaves Brady with three - THREE - Super Bowl wins where it isn't necessarily easy to point at a different player or a weird situation as the reason for their individual Super Bowl "success."

@ThomasFromTN so mahomes didn't deserve the mvp of the super bowl against the eagles cause the kicker won the game so that would leave him with two super bowl wins and one mvp in the sb

@ThomasFromTN mahomes has been down in all three super bowl wins . Would the 49ers and eagles deserve the mvp as well for choking leads late in those games

@ThomasFromTN for vinateriri to be in a position to win those superbowls with a field goal doesn't someone have to put him in a position to be have an opportunity to kick those field goals 🤔🤔

Fortunately, that’s not possible since he’ll always have 31-9

@@bern717With that logic Tom Brady can’t be the GOAT because Both Eli (2x) and Nick Foles beat him in the Super Bowl

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Yeah, sure.. because Eli and Foles are in the discussion of “Greatest of all Time” 🙄 Mahomes is chasing Tom’s legacy. That’s who his rival is. The fact that Tom beat him head-to-head in the SB (I’m not even counting the AFCCG) tips the scale in Brady’s favour whether you like it or not. If you don’t believe me, Mahomes admitted it himself last night 🤷🏻‍♂️

Lost to the refs once. Eli was in the grasp on that insane pass. would have been over if officiated correctly

He could 3 Peat and they'll still find something to trash him on lol

Who engineered the 6 game winning drives for the PATRIOTS? SOSTATE THE FACTS

😂lol former 🐄 cowboy 🤠

It’s a different era… lol and mahomes is set up for good stats

Bro you ain't no damn PAT fan😂😂😂

You don't sound like a Pats fan my friend

"As a DiE hArD PatS FaN" 😂😂cut it out..

You must be a “In Bill we Trust” Patriots fan spewing that non sense and how’d that philosophy work out for you??

He won mvp that year. Can’t have it both ways saying he’s mvp but also a baby

I think it was his third or fourth year

But he lost to him in his second year, first year as a starter in the AFC championship game

Tom also won as a “baby”

Tom was carried as a baby

😂 I agree 💯

People forget Andy Reid was great as eagles head coach they were always in the playoffs and nfc title games, 1 super bowl loss yes, but he’s always been a great head coach.

@@Njbear7453 Yep. & don’t forget about Belichick and Cleveland. Reid’s time w/Philly was much more productive than Belichick’s w/Cleveland.

NOPE they gotta win 8 homie.

​@@danielpaquet3963No they don't. If Mahomes carries every statistics has more MVPs then why would he need 8?

And yet REID IS 0 AND 3 AGAINST TOM BRADY IN THE POSTSEASON

Yo pause my guy!

True. I think mentally Brady was at his best in his 40s

Tell that to Aaron Rodgers. Oh wait ….

Unless you don't study film and only play off talent.

Yeah but your body goes away only Brady took care of his body and got in better shape the older he got yall just assume Mahomes gone not get injured and get in better shape in his 30s

Lmao he lost to Brady his 1st year starter in OT in the afc championship because Dee ford jumped offsides .. and in Tampa machines whole O Line was hurt .. and he still played better than Brady lmaoo

@@Hatibaby445the alarming stat from that game was that Mahomes had what? 500? Scramble yards ? Total? Cus the OLine was so demolished.

@@Njbear7453 and any qb could ve won with that team lmaooo mfs was stack just like how the SF is lmaoo TOM BRADY IS A GAME MANAGER… did he get mvp all his super bowls ? Did he ever beat manning ? Did he have a regular season mvp by the team belkicheck won 3 super bowls with him ? Lmaoooo BE FR

​@@Hatibaby445Tom did win an MVP

Qb never face.each other on the field, tho. Defense matters

It would make sense if he had top notch receiving core for the past two years. Like if he had chase and Higgins. He don’t need 7 to be considered the best QB ever. He only needs 5. Did MJ need 12? No. Pat has chance to be not just the best QB ever but, a top 5 athlete in the sport with a Jerry rice, Deion Sanders, Lawerence Taylor, Bo Jackson, Jim Brown etc.. The thing that people don’t understand is you have to be entertaining as well with the combination of winning, stats, and accolades accumulation. This is why no one says Tim Duncan or Kareem are the best ever. Floyd mayweather for the people who know boxing have him as the best ever. He doesn’t have 100+ fights. He beat the most champions ever, has the highest ppv, he’s the most accurate puncher ever, and is the least hit. Plus he was the ultimate showman and was extremely gifted at selling the fight. Not to mention how skilled he was as a fighter. He has won two Super Bowls without a top 10 defense. He’s been doing most of this without a great defense and now he has one. Plus it’s so, many qbs in NFL history who don’t have a clutch gene in general like Steve young, Peyton manning, Aaron rodgers, Drew Bree’s, Warren moon etc. He’s on pace to pass Brady in everything else as touchdowns, mvps, passing yards etc. That if he doesn’t win 7. He would be considered the greatest ever. In the movie Gladiator they say you have to win the crowd. That’s exactly what he is doing. That happens by the way things are done in biggest moments which are deemed unexplainable.

This Argument makes no sense. Eli Manning is 2-0 against Brady if that's the case

@@DrewDaQue Brady has 7 Rings/ 2-0 against Mahomes in playoffs! Eli only has 2 Rings/ Brady has 7 Rings. If Mahomes can get 8 Rings and more Super Bowl MVP's then he's the best. That's not hard to understand. The greatest clutch quarterback of all time is Brady by far!

@@timothyrobertson3056 buddy head to head isn’t allowed only when it fits your argument 😂. Ur flexing that Brady beat mahomes in his mahomes first season and third , he wasn’t even in prime yet . If mahomes gets 5, most people will say he’s the best .

@timothyrobertson3056 he doesn't need to get 8 rings. That's the point. He needs more but not necessarily 8. Bill Russell has 11 rings and Noone says he is better than Jordan or LeBron. Stop the madness

They talking about regular season MVPs. He has 2

Lol

@dylanallen5653 it must be difficult to slight Patrick Mahomes and get proven wrong again, and again, and again.

Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂

7 always is more then 3. Period

@@billkaler1627 Patrick wasn't involved in 2 cheating scandals

The Wildes argument!

i was told 23 years is longer than 5 years

Not anymore. Patrick reads defenses and changes plays at the line of scrimmage. He did it on the game winning touchdown and on a couple 4th done conversions

Because those other guys weren’t remotely as accomplished as Tom. Patrick is more talented and could end up just as accomplished, so him being more talented is more of a factor in this comparison.

@@dominicannick you don’t think any other QBs red defenses and change plays at the line of scrimmage? That’s pretty standard

@@mani-xc9rs you can talk like that when he gets to 5 superbowls lmao

@@StarWarsSeeker Sure and nobody’s arguing he’s over Tom now. But we’re saying that he will not need 7-8 Superbowls if clear as day he’s more talented and racks up more individual honours.

Atleast Lamar has 2 league MVPs the Burrow and Allen hasn't won anything

LMAO! No he’s not greater at all 😂 How many all time records does Brady have over mahomes??? Lol Dozens ;) And Tom has two of the biggest matchup wins against your hero. Brady is greater. Period

Yeah and imagine if u put wizards Mj on the 2017?warriors and Mahomes on the 2018 cavs and see what happens

Don’t put Mahomes in same category with Lebron 6 final losses .

@@wayne1698 buddy it’s not me who’s putting mahomes with Lebron it’s the people who think he’s actually that guy what you think patricks the GOAT?😂

@@nxtro3882 too bad he was retired by then.

The wizards team was horrible though. Bad analogy

He hating on Pat hard

When Brady won his 1st 3 Super Bowls he was 27

@@FloRiva2Brady also wasn’t the main catalyst in the first three super bowls

@@FloRiva2Brady didn’t have any MVPs or first team all pros tho by that age

@@FloRiva2 and Adam Vinatieri kicked TWO game wining field goals, let’s not forget that.

Not true, Brady was the MVP for 2/3 in those first three Super Bowls, not sure where you got that idea from...

This was supposed to be there down year lol. The only thing that can save everyone is Chris jones leaving and possibly kelce retiring. Even then they could just bring in another weapon…

@@Wtfisthis48888 remember people can age overnight. And on top of that I see some teams who will probably win sooner than we think. Lamar Jackson is still good . He needs to figure something out. Joe burrow . And as funny as this sounds I think Green Bay is going to be better than we imagine. You got Aaron Rodgers coming back. Mahomes is great but these dudes won't last forever. Remember Brady had to take a pay cut

Everyone wants them to lose so badly! Just like how everyone wanted the patriots to lose when they kept winning and winning and winning... get used to it !! And I sure am glad Tom is GONE. Y’all don’t know what it’s like not only being a jet fan, but having to watch your team play Tom 2 times a year.

@@Njbear7453 bruh. It's not wanting them to lose it's the fact the way they win is so boring. And it feels fake . Like last year when I seen the pass interference and they just let it go. Or this year they let him run up the middle and don't even try to tackle. It's wack

Remember Tom Brady went 10 years without winning a Super Bowl. Do you think Mahomes will go 10 years before he wins his next one?

Beat mahomes as a baby. With a depleted O line. Doesn’t count

Mahomes had already won a Super Bowl, plus he was MVP that year...no excuses

This. But people will argue this because they *want* Mahomes to be the goat. Not have it happen truly. It's a desire that comes from within for whatever personal motive. Mahomes isn't like this. He clearly is thinking about the next season because he knows. He wont be anything without those future SB wins and accolades. He understands that the discussion isn't settled or has even begun. So why are his fans not like him?

So in that case Tom Brady can’t be the GOAT because Eli beat him twice in the Super Bowl and Nick Foles beat him in the Super Bowl

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Eli has 2 and Nick has 1. You know this point you're making is not sincere and just cherry picked.

That AFC championship game haunts me because he was smacking up brady. But brady knew all he had to do was drag out to OT and score first. The biggest saving grace of that game though is that it would be a catalyst to the rule changes moving forward. Give Pat a chance in that game and your not telling me he doesnt beat brady. Honestly breaks my heart that Pat never had a good defense up until this year

@@ItsHappyHourArchived brady threw 3 ints that game. Dee Ford erased the last one. Mahomes was far and away the best qb. Yet people will only count the win for brady out of context

Right let’s not mention their chiefs defense forcing punt after punt. A punt after mahomes bad int and the kicker kicking a 57 yard field GOAL!!!!

I have to give you credit you are an excuse making expert trying to explain away Brady's 7 rings but it won't work he's still the goat

@marckellough529 they're not excuses, just blemishes on bradys resume.(excuses is what you hear when u bring up the fact Brady lost to Eli 2x, and back up qb foles). Mahomes has almost zero blemishes. Rings don't count in the goat debate unless u have a sb mvp to go with it. You have to be the reason they won. Brady has 5, mahomes has 3. I'm OK with people saying Brady is still the goat. I get it. But that argument will end BEFORE mahomes retires. Mahomes is so much more talented the debate has already started.

Adam Vinatieri is their original super bowl hero! Remember that! Kicked the game winners against the Rams and Panthers.

Wins plus stats

MJ was so far above anyone during his time. Wilt , Kareem, Bill were all relatively close to one another

Wilt was dominant but came up short in the playoff. Jordan was amazing in the regular season and elevated even higher in the playoffs.

@@chrisricks6363my bad i meant Bill Russell

@@bern717my bad i meant Bill Russell

The bills 4 peated .... in losing

Right constantly in the big moments that’s Brady to me is the Goat he might be the most talented but his work ethic leadership and his ability to come through in clutch moments

All vs harder competition in 3 different eras as well.

He’s 3-3 vs Pat

It's like MJ vs Bron in 2012 The talks started way back then and never stopped

Yeah, cause he’s not in it. Cheaters don’t count. It’s Mahomes, Peyton, and Joe. And I’d say Mahomes passed Joe last night.

There doing it because Pat is so far ahead of the current QBs they can’t discuss him with those guys

It’s not the same though because Eli outside of his 2 rings didn’t do much in his career and was very mediocre in the regular season

Eli isnt considered a top 20 qrterback of all time. Pat is, pat has mvps, the stats, and 3 superbowls. This is why it matters. Nobody thinks eli is that guy

This is such a “casual” argument. Eli played great , not taking anything away from him in those games. But Mahomes direct rival rn is Brady. And having Brady beat you head to head is a feather in Toms cap. Next you’ll hit us with “wELL aCksHuaLLy qBs dOnT pLaY deFeNse” argument

@@bern717 aww