Excellent video. I actually noticed that when I installed Reshade recently for Alan Wake II (for adding CAS amongst other things)! So awesome to have it built in now without the need for a guide on how to add it to Reshade.
The lilium repo was already there before the 6.0 release. Probably you did not notice. Why don't you do some (HDR) screen recording? Would be easier to see what you are showing on the screen? Thanks for the video.
New 551.23 Nvidia studio driver support simulated HDR ! It similar with Windows Auto HDR and add scaled up to more high resolution, It works on games even youtube very well.
Yeah I noticed that (after watching one of your videos a while back) that liliums HDR tool came as part of one of the preset options selectable when installing reshade (I think it was 5.4.2 or newer)
This new reshade update added support for color space addon API with calls such as checking and detecting the color space so I can image lilium being able to do some interesrign stuff with autodetection of the colorspace simplifying the auto-hdr tools. Another highlight is some changes to improve compat/interoperability with special K I am not an expert though so I could be wrong.
Not sure if this topic is worth making a video on but you should talk about fog effects in video games. I know when used sparingly it can create a nice visual effect, but a lot of games (especially UE games) seem to just put fog everywhere to the point where blacks are raised in almost every scene where you would expect perfect blacks. Lies of P and FF7 Remake are both UE4 games that I couldn't get consistent perfect blacks because if I fix the black floor in one area, I still got crushed/raised blacks in other areas where the black floor should be the same. The only way I was able to fix this and get consistent black floor in every scene was to disable fog completely, in this case through the Unreal Engine console command. This allowed me to use sRGB gamma as the input (instead of 2.2 or 2.4) and still get perfect blacks everywhere. Curios if this is a common issue across many other UE games.
Also, if the game has access to depth buffer on reshade you can use deband with depth detection to only deband the sky so you don’t lose details in important parts of the image
Hey, with this add-on you can see the color gamut chart too and info about MaxCLL and MaxFALL or just the waveform? The waveform can be used to see info about HDR RU-vid videos too, does it work with anything or just games? Thanks!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 in this video is not that visible but i seen it well in the video with the Cyberpunk HDR fix. So in the newer version of Reshade you dont need to add anymore the github HDR shader files? Are the built in analysis tool the same as the one from github? The waveform looks different!
got this working in banishers ghost of new eden works great. tried the nvtruehdr but had to unplug all my sdr displays and it broke gsync. such a shame games are still releasing with no hdr support, even w11 auto-hdr is better than nothing.
With new video, comes new set of questions lol: 1: Do you think MPTC SCRGB effects performance more than MPTC HDR10? 2: Do we really need 'Generic Depth' in the Add-ons tab for MPTC HDR? I've heard it hurts performance and frame time for no reason whatsoever. 3: Did you yet try Nvidia's new RTX Video HDR? Which one is better for the browser videos now -- Force W11's AutoHDR or Nvidia's RTX Video HDR??
What's the definitive way to fix black levels using this hdr method? Prod80 or lilium black floor fix or both? Sometimes I don't see the supposed "line" on the analysis tool that I should be following. Thanks for your hard work !
The line is just an indicator to show you the minimum peak level on the waveform - problem is even a single true black pixel from a UI element (not the game) will put that line to zero. You want to be able to do it manually follow these steps: 1) Find a dark scene in the game that you know must contain true black, darker the better 2) Look at the waveform on the graph, middle of the graph correlates to the middle of the screen etc. 3) Adjust the slider on "old black point" until the bottom of the waveform neatly lines up with the bottom of the graph If you know a part of the scene is supposed to actually black but there's an empty gap between the bottom of the waveform and the bottom of the graph, then that is your black level raise.
Hello Ariel. I have an unrelated question. Whats the difference of playing a game in SDR inside an HDR container using the ICC profile that you have share and playing a game with AutoHDR? What is AutoHDR doing for the game?
Thanks for the update, if i download this new version of reshade do i still have to download hdr analysis tool but easier/Faster or is it fully included without additional download? This question might sound stupid so apologies in advance 💀
In Max Payne 3, when I do this method, some cutscenes have their brightness blown out and the character modeling looks strange, the parts I tested were in the favela and cemetery, this also happens when using Pain Killer, for now it was the only game that I saw that you are having problems using this method
hey my friend did you have a video that goes over nvidia control panel settings for oleds? Is it as simple as set video color settings to full, checking the override to reference mode, and using nvidia color settings under "change resolution" and choosing full output dynamic range/rgb/32 bit/etc...?
thanks for the video, one question considering lilium and auto hdr: the games look stunning with your settings. however i sometimes feel that Whites are to bright. Playing in a dark room kind feels like snowy environments in games burn out your eye sockets. it's just so eye searingly bright on a LG Oled C9. this might just be me though(?) having sensitive eyes. anyway: Is there any setting in lilium's shaders or elsewhere to reduce exposure/brightness of these very bright tones /whites in particular? thanks again
What I'd recommend you to try is to set some blue light killer settings using the Color Temperature Meter app. Blue lights are the ones causing the eye strain
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ty for the lightning fast response!! you mean in TV picture settings , am i right? it is already warm2 but iirc there is also warm3 will try the other settings are under white balance under expert options iirc? thanks again
Thank you very much for your video! Could you please explain what is the result that should be obtained with the analysis tool? I understand that it's a great tool but I don't know what result I should get for the colors. (On the other hand, I found your explanation regarding the "black floor")
Do you have an HDR color profile thats darker than the ones you posted before? I have an HDR monitor thats kiinda awful with HDR but the the 3 HDR profiles that darken the screen really help, i just need something darker
So basically to know if majorpainthecactus is going to work, once you install reshade and liliuums shaders into game > once you launch the game > specifiy majorpainthecactus addon path > once you restart the game > the game does not launch anymore > means majorpainthecactus is not supported on the game? I tried it in a plague tale reqium and dying light 2 and after adding majorpain, both games don't launch anymore and crash on startup. But I tried in hogwarts legacy and it worked. I think because those 2 games are not using unreal engine while hogwarts legacy is?
Why do I get 850 to 930 max nits according to the hdr analysis tool in cyberpunk when my 75 inch sony x90J can only output 753 nits in the peak 10% windows according to rtings? The tool is at the bottom in reshade like it's recommended and everything is set up properly. This doesn't make any sense to me. So I'm not sure if this tool is worth using at all if it's just throwing random numbers at the screen with no basis in reality.
The HDR analysis tool shows rounding errors that make the peak brightness reading jump because of TAA based antialiasing. Turn off AA, hud, and Fog completely, and you'll get perfect readings without jumpiness.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Lol, I did all that and for some reason now I have 1300 nits, even more than before. My TV doesn't have HGIG and I have tonemapping set to off. No idea what is going on here, I'm completely out of my depth.
Windows 11’s HDR nits seem broken now. Often my C2 will show up in W11 as 240 hits in HDR mode (check with DXDIAG). Very hard to get it back to 800 nits + be able to use the gamma ICC profile fix
Measure your Filmaker mode with accurate settings and then make it consistent across the gray scale. If it says 0.003, you can try slightly below that and a little higher than 0.002. Basically, barely hitting 0.003
it's kinda sad that we have to do all this to get optimal HDR experience. why can't it just be automatic? like, windows should recognize which display we are using and optimize everything on its own.
To be honest, despite having a LG C2 and applying all the settings you indicated in the video, when comparing MajorPain HDR in Reshade against Win 11 Auto HDR force trick + Dlyanraga's ICC profile, I prefer Win 11 Auto HDR. To me anyway, everything just looks better with Win 11 Auto HDR. Will keep Reshade in mind though, in case there's shaders that can make Win 11 Auto HDR better.
For VR you have to turn off HDR on Windows all together. Otherwise, you get white clipping. It does work to have HDR on TV and VR at the same time, but the VR will clip the highlights and look bad
Plasma, I don't know if you have a work email where we can send questions to so I'll post my question here. I have an LG G3 (using HGIG for gaming) and when I use lilliums black floor shader fix (currently testing in Cyberpunk) when clicking the checkmark for that option, the black level doesn't lower at all. Even when I manually slide the point value it doesn't move. I.E. Nothing is working with the shader for some reason and it's all installed correctly. The black floor values show 0.0000 but the MIN value is something like 0.44400 and it looks like it's at 2.5 in the analysis tool. Any ideas on what I can do?
The FPS is the same, the persistence is different. OLED Motion Pro high at 120fps has 3.2ms of persistence (312fps like motion clarity) and Medium 4ms of persistence(240fps like motion)
I use reshade to add vignetting on some games with bright HUDs so they don't burn my C1 I also sometimes use CRT filters for retro or 2D pixel games. The best ones aren't available by default. Also I sometimes use FXAA. And of course autoHDR! I toyed with reshade for a while and honestly there isn't that much more you can do with it. It has raytracing shaders but I never managed to make it work.
See what happens to the Magenta to Green balance when you lower Blue. Yet you can have the same color temperature with different Magenta to Green balance
Plasma one of the experts from youtube channel P4OLO told me that if you use secret override it may screw tone mapping even more or screw it up entirely and even after going to auto it may not fix it. What is your opinion?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 It does matter though for Win 11 Auto HDR. When using Win 11 Auto HDR force trick + Dlyanraga's ICC profile, it needs to bet set at 80, which is where I have mine set at.
Plasma one of the experts from youtube channel P4OLO told me that if you use secret override it may screw tone many completely and even after going to auto may not fix it. What is your opinion?
So I'm having trouble understanding major pain the cactus. Does it only force auto HDR to games that don't activate windows auto HDR? Or does it convert SDR games to HDR10?
It is like awakening the HDR capability of the engine itself. For example, Unreal Engine has HDR, regardless of whether the developer implemented it or not
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks heaps for the quick reply 😊. So it can convert a game that already uses windows auto HDR into real HDR, If the engine already supports HDR?
Do you have Patreon? I recently changed from console to PC and I have an AOC Agon monitor model AG323FCXE and every time I turn on HDR the colors become faded and I don't know what to do I'm inexperienced with this issue of HDR on Windows, it doesn't seem as easy as on consoles and TV. I pay fot that
This works only in few games. Most of the time it will crash game when loading(like in 95% of games). This is pretty useless sadly. Better to use RTX HDR that works in all games.
Here's one problem I noticed with 6.0, I can't - no matter what I do, move the window around, I can resize it but it's always left justified (Sorry if you covered this, I'll need to watch this video with sound when I get time later on)
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you so much, but its still a luck thing right? we have to try it out to find out if its working right? thank you for everything by the way plasma tv
Is there any solution or trick for games that don't start if you add MajorPainTheCactus add-ons? I tried to put it on Yakuza 0 but the game won't open again, I've tried doing everything including the trick with the program to force auto-HDR but it still won't start
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks for the answer man, ur the hdr community goat (i used to play all my games in sdr), but I must ask: How is having less options beneficial? Also, do you plan on making an video covering the updates? Cheers man!
Hi plasma , I recently started enjoying a lot hgig especially in gta 5 in night scenes but its good at night but during the day its very dark , very dark . I cant see anything. How can i fix that and get at least a little bit brighter picture.
basically the tonemapper is taking the value and multiplying it by 10. if you read the description it tells you that. if you have it at 10 and your tv/monitor only goes to 800 nits, the white point is gonna be too bright, as it will be targeting 1000nits. basically think of it as the "pre tonemap peak brightness tonemap setting"basically it is telling the tonemapper to tonemap the image with the peak brightness of 800nits in mind. the difference between that and the peak nits limiter, is that the limiter is simply a nits cutoff point, where anything displaying above it will just output at 800nits. setting the input white point will cause the tonemapper to tonemap it to 10x whatever you set it at. im not 100% certain on this, but unless lilium is incorrectly describing the setting, you want it to be 10% of your peak hdr brightness in nits. so if your monitor hits like 1300 nits peak, you wanna set the input white point to 130.
@@scragglie thanks for the explanation. I have a QD oled ultra wide that I keep in HDR400 true black because it tracks the EOTF much better than the peak 1000 nits mode. According to the EDID reported in dxdiag the peak in this mode is 456 nits. So I guess I would set the inverse tonemapping to 45.6 then, I’ll test it out and see if it’s too dark. Thanks
@@asdfjkl925 thats weird that the peak brightness is so dark in that mode, but yea lmk if it looks better for you. im still currently trying to figure out some weird stuff with this addon myself, so its a learning process for all of us lol
Im having trouble with Marvels Guardians of The Galaxy. Is It sRGB or 2.2? Because when I game in sRGB, it looks too bright on the calibration image within the game, and I have to put it in 0% brightness to be able to darken his jacket. But when I change windows color with dylanraga sRGB to gamma 2.2 icm profile, it get darkened till 100%.
You only use the icm profile when gaming in auto-hdr. Other than that everything from MPC mod to native hdr should be gamed on a standard icm profile (the one you calibrate yourself with the win11 app). I haven't check personally but when using the MPC mod it should technically be 2.2, in very rare cases sRGB. Hope it helps :)
Brooo, please help. I wanted to install this hdr for God Of War. After I selected the folder in reshade addons where the AutoHDR64.addon file is located, my game crashes and says that there was an unknown error. But if you delete the file AutoHDR64.addon from the folder, the game starts without error. Can this be fixed somehow? Please tell me if you know! Thanks in advance, bro! (Sorry for any errors in the text, I'm using Google Translate)
ok i have an update. apparently, for whatever reason, the lilium version of the autohdr addon is not working on any game uses dx12. i am unsure of why this is, and i cannot figure it out, if its user error, or maybe im potentially missing a file, but i cannot for the life of me get the autohdr addon to work in ANY dx12 games. they either crash or give me the "invalid dxgi call" error. this is super frustrating, and i really hope lilium is able to fix this, as they state in the github page that this autohdr addon DOES work with dx12, when in reality that is not the case. its also extremely frustrating as i have no way of contacting this person and the reshade discord is absolutely useless.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 are you able to get it to work in elden ring? its starting to really bug me now as more and more games are simply refusing to launch the second i add this autohdr addon to them. i cant even get reshade to run with elden ring, as eac keeps blocking it, saying dxgi.dll is "untrusted" and it barely works in monster hunter world by renaming the dxgi file to d3d11 and only running the game in dx11. what dx12 games have you tested that work for you? ill be honest im at a point where i gotta see it with my own eyes before i believe it will work, ive had so many games just brick on me due to either the dgxi call error, or something else just not working right. im at a loss honestly
@@plasmatvforgaming9648yea, im not sure what is causing it, i think it might be a conflict between exclusive fullscreen and the hdr mode reloading on my tv when i launch a game, ive gotten elden ring to work when not in exclusive fullscreen so i think its definitely something to do with it. i just gotta do some more testing haha. ill let you know if i figure anything out.
Reshade es una herramienta que a mi aprecio mucho compadre o cuando mismo si me usaro no los ser yo tengo condiciones eso es todo no ser como es cuando es mismo nombre
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Also weirdly enough I don't know how but Ghost Recon Breakpoint works with MPC mod sRGB but doesn't with the original mod. The game has an anti cheat system so I was surprised. Sadly still doesn't work with RDR2 or Spiderman
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Darn, I could only get Special K to work. Reshade won't detect my HDR even though it's turned on and I tried the compatible versions mentioned by the author of the mod.
My friend whenver it is possible, can you please go into game that has autoHDR like RDR 2 or dying light 2 and take HDR screen shot with SDR slider in windows set to 0 and compare it to 100 and see the difference? You mentioned SDR slider does not matter in auto HDR but I think I disagree because even when autoHDR is on in game (I get notification and pressing windows+g increasing HDR intensity changes the image so its clear its working) if I adjust SDR brightness slider my in game picture becomes more bright. Here is a video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yxp4aTPkH2U.htmlsi=sjgnR4vAtmrr45QZ As you can see his SDR brightness if he increases it to more than 0 it becomes washed out even when he has autoHDR ON. What u think? thank you
That intensity slider is not the SDR HDR slider. It is unique and was there to adjust the Maxcll before the HDR calibration app. Today, that slider is useless and should stay at 100 so you get the Maxcll you set using the HDR calibration app or any other ICC profile
