Marble Phantasms...The ORIGIN of Reality Marbles 

and tohno sliced her like a bread

Oh, I got a good laugh from reading that.

Some may talk about it, but what can they do? No everyone is crazy like Roa to go against a literal goddess.

The Mages of The Wondering Sea are probably the only ones outside of certain Servants and Ancients that really know enough to see how it is different from a Reality Marble which is already seen as a near godlike spell to most mages.

@@murilopenagoncalves3831 not to go against them but should be the textbook example of Reality Marble and why they're omitted from the taboo of RM likely them being around before the Taboo

@@tonyinfinite5174 Before the taboo? Sorry, I missed your point.

@@murilopenagoncalves3831 the Clocktower is the current head of Magecraft development and at one point in time has made Reality Marble Taboo Magecraft aka it's illegal to have said spell on you of course it's got to be the whole spell you can still use piece or aspect of it.

The remake gives me hope because we got silhouettes for a good chunk of them.

It's not a noble phantasm my dude

@@Lobomaru02 Arcuied isn't a servant. "But FGO doh" No dude it's not a noble phantasm lol. Arc being a servant is just fanservice and makes no sense considering how the heroic spirit system works.

@@Lobomaru02 Arcuied is an avatar of earth. I have no idea why earth would let arc be summoned as a servant when humanity is the planets enemy.

@@Lobomaru02 Wasn't that just proper human history?

@@r.k845 "Arcuied is an avatar of earth. I have no idea why earth would let arc be summoned as a servant when humanity is the planets enemy" Well that argument would classify her as a BEAST in her full power. BEASTs do have a precident of being summoned as Servants/Counter-Guardians for a restrained manifestation,Tamamo-no-Mae, Sessyoin Kiara, and Karna are three easy examples, so to stand against a threat like The White Giant Zephyr, Outer Gods, or the Alien God it makes perfect sense that she could be summoned to fight a greater enemy, or even to set up the destruction of Humanity, if her full power could be called upon without special restrictions beyond a spell/ritual she could perform at will.

Kinda, let's separate the Melty Blood manga of Nanaya Shiki (Tohno Shiki but a double made without the MEODP) He made Arcueid Brunestud go on full power to just defeat Nanaya.... with just his skills alone with that personality. I'd recommend searching more info on him.

I mean, if Viy really wanted to probably. But in Anastasia’s profile it said Viy uses it to play small pranks on people, like making something someone was holding suddenly disappear or tripping them

Its implied that Viy cant do anything lethal tho

@@abbadon9693 A better analogy would the World being the ocean, and the Reality Marble user would be an air bender in the sea bed creating an air pocket to live. The Marble Phantasm user, who's power is to manipulate the ocean, can't use his power in the air pocket because there's no water manipulate with.

@@rampagepotato4307 It could be argued The Marble Phantasm user could still use their power as the components for water would still be their and just need time to force it back into a liquid state in your analogy.

@@truekurayami The thing is the ability of the Marble Phantasm user is strictly manipulating the ocean, and since there is no ocean inside that air pocket, he can't manipulate anything inside it and could only rely on his own power. That's why Reality Marble users hard counters Marble Phantasms. The best way to defeat those who can manipulate the World is to cut them off from it.

Yup

By a lot to match with Fgo

It sure did

I found that annoying back with OG tsuki, both Fate and Tsuki were comparatively the same powerwise except arc who was always just op. But in older interviews Nasu stated that in a fight, Shiki and Shirou both would be equally matched, he would kill Shirou‘s projections and Shirou would use his superior close combat skills to try and defeat Shiki to the point where Shirou would die from Mana exhaustion and Shiki from overusing his mystic eyes. Now I can‘t see Shirou winning in any way at all.

@@ebering4.039 How did they buff Shiki?

You just now watching the anime I been finished really

@@QuintrellDemary I was curious about tsukihime and I was being too lazy to watch it. I've only dwelled in this franchise for two yrs

We don't talk about that adaptation

There is no tsukihime anime

The anime is crappie

@@dumpsterplayer5133 The explanations I encountered before gave the impression that humans and human made constructs were outside Gaia's domain and therefore couldn't be directly acted upon by Gaia. So basically you could use a marble phantasm to manipulate nature but not a building and would have to use nature to kill a human instead of just willing them to die. It's a bit like how explanations of the counterforce get a bit confusing when it goes from describing Gaia and Alaya having their own versions of it and then later describing something associated with one as part of the other like there's no difference. Stuff like that makes untangling nasuverse lore needlessly confusing and frustrating on top of hunting down the info across so many sources to begin with.

​@@dumpsterplayer5133 Humans and even ones with non human ancestry have to pretty deliberately depart from their humanity to go from Alaya to Gaia. While they're still connected and have mutual goals, a big part of the separation was that Gaia couldn't use humanity the way it can other beings still in its domain and that humanity lost influence over Gaia's domain when they left it. That makes allowing elementals and stuff to manipulate the realm of Alaya even with more difficulty seem like overstepping what should be a firm limitation of their abilities. For the counterforce thing, I was referring to stuff like how FGO made heroic spirits part of Gaia's counterforce as part of its plot, which doesn't make much sense for a number of reasons. The most relevant reasons here being that most of them are human or human derived and would therefore be in Alaya's domain. There's also that Gaia has a whole thing about wanting humans dead and using its counterforce to do so. On the topic of humanity's relationship with the planet, I don't think the series does a good job explaining how daemons and the imaginary element tie into the world and how creating beings by imagining them into existence affects their nature. It seems like humanity created divine spirits and elementals this way but it's also a defining aspect of how daemons come into existence. Then there's how useless the term demon is at explaining what something is because it's used to describe so many different things. Basically what I'm getting at is that the nasuverse gets too caught up in throwing ideas around without doing a good job presenting them clearly and coherently. Some of this stuff gets plot relevant and the abilities and limitations of things is often important to shape expectations of what people are capable of within the setting. It's something the series really needs to get better at doing.

Apples vs Oranges. TM comes down to compatibility 100% of the time.

nope anti world means the NP could "affect" the world, not destroying it

What? Do you mean Zelrech?

@@pena6819 FUCK, I mispelled his name. How embarrassing. Yes, I do

@@Genji-Agito Right. I doubt it, since it is said that Brunestud of the crimson moon would have won, if he had bothered to understand and anticipate magic.

@@pena6819 damn, with proper prep, humanity would be royally screwed.

If you meant Medea then Arcueid slams

If you meant Media then Arcueid lost

What the différents she the same personne