Marine Veteran Charged In NYC Chokehold Death - Everything We Know So Far

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Marine veteran Daniel Penny has been charged with second-degree manslaughter for the New York City subway chokehold death of homeless man Jordan Neely. Penny decided to restrain Neely after he allegedly started threatening people onboard the train. Now - politicians and celebrities are raising money for Penny’s defense, calling him an American hero, while others are calling for justice. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber breaks it all down with former Watergate prosecutor, and former assistant United States attorney for the Southern District of New York, Nick Ackerman - who weighs in on the strength of the case.
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@Texass117 Год назад

Use his mugshot from when he kidnapped a 7 year old girl, or from when he punched a 70 year old woman in the face and broke bones in her face, or one of the 40 other times, but no, you chose to use a decade old picture of this psychopath and one of the marine in hand cuff and not one in uniform or with family. You are trying to paint a picture and drive a narrative, and you have the audacity to say "putting politics aside" by the way those 15 months he served were for kidnapping a 7 year old girl

@BetterThanKanye Год назад

He killed a man. Choked him for 15 minutes. It’s not politics, you just don’t value human life.

@motosk8er2 Год назад

Preach!

@lamotte Год назад

And that has what to do with what happened that day?

@itsmejay8406 Год назад

Nah he didn't have to kill him tho..he went way too far, point blank. Not saying Neely was a saint but you can't choke somebody to death for being obnoxious and loud. It's par for the course in NYC come on

@s.m.fveritas4931 Год назад

@@lamotte pattern of behavior.

@valerierodger Год назад

It’s absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there has to be physical contact before self-defence can come into play. Why should I have to wait until the person who is threatening me hits me before I defend myself? Why should somebody who is watching somebody threatening me and approaching me have to wait until I am injured before they are justified in stepping in to stop the assault? That’s not how the law works at all. The law requires that a reasonable person would perceive a risk of imminent harm, *not* that the harm is in progress

@novanellie5166 Год назад

Ok but you don’t get to just kill people when they’re yelling on a train. If you feel threatened, incapacitate them. You don’t just choke someone to death “accidentally”.

@holeymattress8128 Год назад

Exactly, if you get in someone's personal space in an aggressive manner, you have already entered the octagon.

@NenskiTrill 11 месяцев назад

I’ve had friends, family, and strangers spaz out in my vicinity plenty of times before. I never once thought of hurting them. If they’re too close to me. I move away. It’s not hard.

@pipp_988 11 месяцев назад

There are ways to restrain people WITHOUT killing them numbnuts.

@insightfulgarbage 6 месяцев назад

He kept the chokehold long after the man went limp and after someone told him "you're going to kill him", that's unfortunately impossible to defend.

@JohnSmith-ms8nj Год назад

Only 42 arrests ? that's it... glad to know that guy was rooming the streets

@Dusty42096 Год назад

He also broke an elderly woman’s nose

@bellaapple2166 Год назад

@@Dusty42096 Sounds like a sweet guy, that needed a second chance.

@Josh_Andrade Год назад

@@bellaapple2166 😂

@coyoluo Год назад

I hope you are squicky clean.

@erismana2105 Год назад

@@coyoluo We are

@lanes3908 Год назад

All of the sudden Neely’s family and friends care about him.

@enkeyvely6589 Год назад

Penny should have kept his hands to himself. If Neely did not touch him, then Penny had no right to come behind him and put him in a choke hold. Whyte people see what they want to see.

@dustinredeagle9465 Год назад

@@enkeyvely6589 Not threatening a train full of people will increase your chances of living by 100%

@KabukeeJo Год назад

They smell the money and fame and they all came out to try and grab a piece of that!

@samspade8830 Год назад

@Lane S You're absolutely correct.

@omgtrey Год назад

Notice the go fund me for his funeral makes no mention of where any extra funds would be donated if they reach their goal (which they're past). Penny's states anything extra will be donated to NYC mental health services.

@DeanClean Год назад

I mean some people are used to habitual criminality and mentally unstable people in big cities. When people scream and say they aren’t afraid to die and may hurt people some people might get concerned. Justifiable to be concerned for everyone’s safety.

@maxstone6953 Год назад

Jesse Weber, I live and work in Manhattan. I invite you to travel the subway with me. Your bias is showing, sad that the man has died, but the horrors of our subways are very real . Where's your report on Mi tinh Nguyen being pushed to her death on that same train line? Stop pushing division, pedestrians on that train car have called him a hero.

@jimbond Год назад

Well said, those trains can be dangerous places with all the lunatics running around NYC. More people like that hero that stopped the threat would make the city a safer place.

@Grrrfrend Год назад

This was accidental, from where I stand. He was trying to keep the public safe from a person who has repeatedly offended in many ways.

@louisabrams9590 Год назад

You don't choke a person to death by accident

@MotorCitySmity313 Год назад

But… the ppl on the train said they didn’t feel in danger

@mauricelatours7623 Год назад

@@louisabrams9590 You do when he's a crackhead

@erismana2105 Год назад

@@louisabrams9590 wouldn't of happened if Neely's family didnt dump him on society

@tjknox8936 Год назад

@@louisabrams9590If they had a criminal history of over dozens of arrest, nothing of value was lost if the justice system didn't want to take out the trash

@FluckitJJM Год назад

Painting the criminal as the new messiah. Where’ve we seen this before

@JesseMeza07 Год назад

Tell me, which crime did he commit that warrants the death penalty?

@FluckitJJM Год назад

@@JesseMeza07 Tell me, where did I suggest that he committed a crime worthy of the “death penalty”

@candiicaine5596 Год назад

Old St. Georgy

@Bandhead07 Год назад

⁠⁠⁠@@FluckitJJM PLEASE DO TELL…….WHEN HAVE “YOU A HUMAN BEING” EVER SEEN “THE MESSIAH/JESUS” A PERFECT INDIVIDUAL? BECAUSE WHEREVER IT WAS I SURE WOULD LIKE TO GO THERE AND MEET HIM MYSELF……..

@generic7939 Год назад

@@JesseMeza07 Punching people; self-admitting he doesn't care if he dies : "I DON'T CARE IF I DIE!"

@kuros2349 Год назад

Hold lasted 3 minutes not 15 minutes. Thanks, fake news

@omgtrey Год назад

The average time between stops for the f- train is 2.111111 minutes. They're really running with 15 minutes, which would mean he held him for multiple stops, without any intervention at the platforms. It's ridiculous on its face.

@techoperatives2232 Год назад

@@omgtrey facts.

@b.1162 Год назад

@@billyyank5807 Because he wasn't trying to choke him, he was attempting to restrain him and clearly multiple other men thought he still needed assistance doing so.

@bjkarana Год назад

@@billyyank5807 sure Brah, tell us about your skillz!

@V-187 Год назад

The hold wasnt locked in or he'd b out in a few seconds

@willharris2541 Год назад

Instead of a 10 year old picture, how about show what he looked like the day he entered the train and yelled he didn’t care if her died and was ready to kill someone.

@mikebelnap3079 Год назад

Flip the colors of the actors and tell me how it would be handled

@opheliasfall Год назад

Nobody would know about it.

@Gavin556 Год назад

Release the hero

@adamhoward4775 Год назад

I donated $200 of the $2 million raised for his defense

@groofoot Год назад

Awesome! 8-)

@keepingupwiththejaneiros2.764 Год назад

✌️

@betsybabf748 Год назад

I donated $100 this morning.

@JosephPogonowski-uh7go Год назад

Thank you

@ryshellso526 Год назад

Based

@thetruth9775 Год назад

Penny was brave enough to stop Neely

@stevewarsaw Год назад

That's why they have to punish him - the brave are hard to subjugate

@reaperrt1019 Год назад

@@stevewarsaw that’s not why they are punishing him…. NY let’s everyone else out so why not Penny??? Hummm

@limeypam Год назад

This man is a hero. The criminal had 42 prior arrests. Quit the BS and honour the hero

@RcPlayer-tt2vw Год назад

that choke normally puts you too sleep didn’t others help , how come they’re not in trouble

@b.1162 Год назад

@@Nala_1230 That's why we have laws protecting people's right to self-defense and defense of others, INCLUDING verbal, not just physical threats of v!olence

@JesseMeza07 Год назад

Tell him, which arrest warrants the death penalty?

@pommiebears Год назад

I think the lack of adequate mental health facilities killed Neely. If the city he lived in didn’t care enough about him to keep him safe, and their citizens safe, then they are responsible for his demise.

@dsta9996 Год назад

You think he would have went? 45 arrest for violence and destruction

@Patricia-cn7ox Год назад

@@dsta9996 yeah, he was mentally unstable and in America that means jail.

@rgarlinyc Год назад

Completely disagree with you. He could've (a) been mentally unstable, and (b) not given adequate treatment - BUT until Neely choked him out for 3 minutes he was alive. Following your analysis, anyone can choke (or shoot, or drive into, or push off a building....etc.) to death anyone else so long as that person was ill and insufficiently treated, Utter, heartless B.S.

@diannacotwright4892 Год назад

Well said, Promise.

@vaughanbrowne5504 Год назад

No. The man who choked him to death is responsible. Stop your fcuking bs.

@rosier5428 Год назад

Put me on that jury and we’ll see who needs to be arrested.

@rgarlinyc Год назад

🤦🏻‍♂You do know that prejudgng a case automatically disqualifies you from being on its jury, right?

@bobbislay Год назад

with this comment you'll never be on a jury lol

@rosier5428 Год назад

@@rgarlinyc you do know that the purpose of this comment section is to give your opinion…..right ? I have a better chance on being Pope than being on that jury.

@rosier5428 Год назад

@@bobbislay that’s not the point.

@ExcerionsForte Год назад

Killing people on a train for acting out is a recipe for disaster. Move to another train car or you will end up like this guy in handcuffs.

@james_giant_peach Месяц назад

You’re not supposed to switch cars in between stops

@tinab8466 Год назад

He should have not been charged at all because this was self defense.

@insightfulgarbage 6 месяцев назад

You can't claim self-defense against an unconscious body. Neely went limp and was incapacitated, but Penny kept choking him for another minute. It's sad all around cause Penny was obviously trying to do the right thing, but legally he's toast.

@heckalydalii200 14 часов назад

It was MURDAAA IN THE 1ST DEGREEE

@Yasin33 Год назад

Notice the photo used for each individually.

@rachelmora6227 Год назад

It is wrong that we, the general public, are supposed to put up with the antics of the “mentally” ill and do nothing. This person should have been in a mental institution years ago. He would be safe and so would we. I would not convict him were I in the jury box. Enough is enough!

@V-187 Год назад

That was not a tight choke hold...that was a restraint.. has anyone here ever seen a locked choke hold in an mma fight? It takes seconds to put u out not 15min and 2 other people helping u..

@MrAnderson5157 Год назад

That is going to be the case against him. His death was not necessary. Especially from a supposedly trained marine. The force was not equal to the threat.

@JahmBProducts Год назад

It was tight enough to kill a man. Even professional mma fighters don't use this technique for over 1 or 2 minutes because of the high risk of permanent injury.

@elmerhuyard3565 Год назад

Death was ruled homicide which means he died from asphyxia. And there's footage of who did it. It simply wasn't necessary.

@rhondabantam1285 Год назад

Someone should ask a jujitsu master on what kind of hold it was. Usually the person being restrained calls down and the problem taken care of at that point. This man was not calming down that's why the restraint was for so long, and he put him in a recovery position after.

@elmerhuyard3565 Год назад

@Rhonda Bantam he wasnt even threatening anyone in the first place. Seems to me like the marine played hero and screwed up bad. He's got a working conscious we can give him that since he turned himself in.

@Bluenariangirl Год назад

The young man was obviously struggling - not shocking his family that was not helping him are standing up and making themselves known in an attempt to get the check.

@thelostfisherman7658 Год назад

U know Al sharpton was on the phone with them B4 the body was cold

@HebrewHammerArmsCo Год назад

So when are the other two getting charged since they were responsible for holding him down as well ?

@Flick14 Год назад

He didn't die from being held down. He died from being choked out for several minutes

@erismana2105 Год назад

@@Flick14 They helped

@assassinbullets928 Год назад

If 3 random men gang up on you, it might just be your own doing.

@Residentevil9978 Год назад

Wasn’t all the footage of him acting like MJ and doing those performances back in 2011?

@Kahilg Год назад

He needs to be freed

@dr.g3860 Год назад

He’ll be convicted of manslaughter and get a short prison sentence imo.

@jackmanochs7085 Год назад

Bro was is your face so shiny

@Kahilg Год назад

@@jackmanochs7085 a lot of lotion :D lol

@michigan9191 Год назад

So where’s the hate crime charges for the Florida teenagers that were killed ?

@ccarley9133 Год назад

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Little girl shot in face- and her parents too for playing ball I believe as well in a second case. No outcry there!!

@PhilipMarcYT Год назад

Using the photo of the scumbag when he was young. That's pathetic.

@Unknown-user7 Год назад

It’s the typical move media makes

@justkiddin84 Год назад

I think they chose that pic because of the obvious hairstyle similarity, guys.

@Alexandra_K_ Год назад

There was another incident in NYC like this not too long ago that made it to the news. A homeless man who was clearly off his rocker just walked up to a mother pushing a stroller and tried to literally take the stroller with the baby in it… in broad daylight surrounded by hundreds of people. A civilian put him in some kind of hold on the ground and had to hold him like that for like 15-20 minutes because it took the police so long to respond to all the 911 calls. No one died though. This kind of thing happens ALL the time, but it doesn’t usually end like this. I honestly don’t know what to think about this yet except it’s very sad the victim mentally deteriorated for so long that he was even in that state on the subway in the first place. It’s really out of control and scary. Idk what to think but I can see both sides of the argument. We can’t have people out here acting crazy and scaring the public because you don’t know what a crazy person is gonna do… but at the same time we can’t have people out here ending lives because they don’t know what someone is gonna do. I just can’t say whether or not he took it too far until we can see all the evidence… and the burden of proof is on the prosecution. If he is convicted of anything, I do not think it will be murder.

@Candy-yk5pg Год назад

One thing has nothing to do with the other. AND the person lived. Mr. Neeley was MURDERED!

@jaymay7957 Год назад

@@Obihannthe guy didn’t die from the chokehold. And If someone is threatening, you have every right to defend yourself. You do not need to wait for a person to attack you first… that’s insanity. If he’s saying he will kill everyone, should you wait for him to Start killing before you do Something lol

@rileyscott5827 Год назад

@@Obihann He wasn't shouting random bs, dumba$$. Threatening to kill/harm people most certainly is a crime.

@stelladavis7832 Год назад

Moral of the story, when in NYC if a person threatens people let them attack and just walk away because you will be arrested if you kill them by accident

@carlf.9035 Год назад

We have to put things in perspective. This is NY city, where only few months ago and at least a dozen times in the last 3 years, people have been attacked and killed in subway for no reason. Some of these cases have made worldwide news for how violent they were. To be sitting in a moving subway in today's time and a man shouts saying he doesn't care if he dies etc. To say that wouldn't make some feel threatened is not living in today's reality. When you don't have proper enforcement, security and homelessness management, things like this scenario can happen again. Homeless and other individuals can go on as free riders or camp inside, when this continues and goes unmanaged- the city and MTA system is putting riders in the front of the line to fend for themselves. People will always have the need to protect themselves and others if they feel in danger in such settings. Regardless of Neely's arrest record or mental illness, there is also enough context and history given the crimes taken place in the NY subway system to make one have instant reaction of self defense. While I think 911 or emergency services button should have also been called, no knows how the panic sets within a span of minutes. On a side note, the MTA "staff" are almost non existent when this should be the opposite, especially with a such a large subway network and massive number of riders, to manage the entering and exiting of people. I have not once been checked or asked for my ticket on the subway or before stepping in. In the end the question also lies on the system, if they knew he had a violent and criminal record, why would they let Neely roam the subway, why would they not instead help him get treatment and rehabilitation instead?

@glocktaviousbrown5420 Год назад

Still should have put his hands on him

@mariee.5912 Год назад

What do you mean asked for a ticket in NYC train? We don't have tickets. You either pay with a Metrocard, phone or bankcard.

@conorfrancis6614 Год назад

You clearly do not live in new york city, so don’t comment on our metro system or crime. NYC is one of the safest cities in the country, do some research.

@carlf.9035 Год назад

@@glocktaviousbrown5420 I think you meant to add *not there but I get what you mean, fair point.

@carlf.9035 Год назад

@@mariee.5912 Yes true, but same point not , I meant that no employees regularly or randomly check to see if people have a valid pass. This is commonly practiced in other major subway systems. You will see more staff presence and oversight.

@annaheaney1708 Год назад

There isn't CCTV on public transport in New York? Surely there's footage, other than from peoples phone's

@brookiebrooke928 Год назад

There’s video of Neely’s legs moving while they were putting him in the recovery position. He didn’t appear to die from the chokehold.

@nyizzle4533 Год назад

That aspect is settled by professionals, he definitely died from the choke hold.

@DAS-Videos Год назад

He could have easily been resuscitated by anyone on the train but it didn't enter anyone's mind to do so. They were afraid of him.

@jacquelynn2051 Год назад

@PP Chest thrusts have been found to be effective as it keeps the cardio pumping

@DAS-Videos Год назад

@PP Idk. I would hope that I would try to help him, I wouldn't have known that he was homeless or a drug addict, but I would know that he was dangerous. I probably wouldn't just out of fear and self preservation at the moment

@hillybill6092 Год назад

Maybe if his family were to have actually helped him this wouldn’t of happened.

@zachcurrie4258 Год назад

“Politics aside” >defense in cuffs >victim innocently smiling

@threeofeight197 Год назад

This case would make an interesting study on philosophy/morality/psychology and justice. There were ppl on that subway scared enough to join him. No one stopped him. As far as I know no one said anything. The dialogue of what happened in that subway car must have been wild. What happened that lead to this? If it was so egregiously wrong why did no one stop him?

@DC-pf5tp Год назад

Respectfully going to correct you: - The victim did not approach anyone or make threats in anyway. In fact he was yelling about having nothing to eat or drink and being in need of necessities - The 3 people were together on an empty cart and intentionally committed this atrocious act as he was already limp and 2 of the men can be seen purposely moving his wrists and arms to make it appear he was fighting back. I'm getting really sick and tired of the naivety in these comments and lack of any analysis skills.

@SuperCockinballs Год назад

@@DC-pf5tp that's not what preliminary witness statements said. There's eyewitness testimony that indicates he was wanting to go to prison and was willing to conduct violence to do it.

@BlackSilverTreasure Год назад

@@DC-pf5tp were you there? How are you so certain of what was said

@rgarlinyc Год назад

@@SuperCockinballs Show proof?

@techoperatives2232 Год назад

@@rgarlinyc he has no proof, just propaganda

@joeschmooz-it6nh Год назад

neely was a criminal who enjoyed seriously injuring others. neely was going to get himself killed one way or another by someone no matter what.

@keepingupwiththejaneiros2.764 Год назад

Neally was literally on a top 50 list in New York (suprise surprise it wasn't the honor roll) about 50 criminal charges, he was supposed to be in a mental hospital at the time and had a warrant out for his arrest. Plus there are literal reddit posts that date back 10 years that talk about how dangerous he was. His death was accidental not murder, as soon as he passed out from the chock hold which is used in every martial arts class even for teens, the marine put him in a recovery position and stopped restraining him and waited for police and medical.

@techoperatives2232 Год назад

Propaganda

@b.1162 Год назад

@@techoperatives2232 Only in 🤡 world could literal facts = propaganda

@RcPlayer-tt2vw Год назад

They expect him to act on his threats before doing anything lol . Crazy in parallel universe he really would be a hero , we’ve falling so far .

@techoperatives2232 Год назад

@@b.1162 you’re a clown

@Ms.Prairie Год назад

So, thought crimes? Lmao, party of free speech. Only scared when you’re threatened. Rules for thee and not for me!

@tonyspicer6745 Год назад

It only takes 6 to 8 seconds to choke an average man unconscious in a rear pull back choke. The body goes limp, let the choke go. Don’t apply chokes if you don’t have this knowledge and don’t let your adrenaline overcome your ability to count seconds and notice the body going limp. When a professional mma fight is won with a rear pull back choke. Why do you think the professional referee stops the fight within seconds. The ref sees the body go limp and the fighter is unconscious. There isn’t going to be a professional ref to tell you to release the choke he’s unconscious in a street altercation. If you don’t have the discipline to count seconds or notice the body going limp under pressure, then don’t use the choke to subdue people. You can’t bring them back once they’re dead. Why do you think most or all states don’t teach choke holds to their police officers anymore? Not all policemen possess the ability for use of choke so none of them are taught the choke anymore. Seems America needs professional mma fighters to host town hall meetings in every state, televised over and over until the public understands the rear pull back choke is broken down so people shouldn’t use it unless you’re in a professional fight with a professional ref.

@PRND21 Год назад

Looks like they both might do some Michael Jackson impersonation

@OliviaNile Год назад

It’s called a “suppression hold”, not a “chokehold” as referenced in your title and as mentioned throughout this video

@christinaadams7531 3 месяца назад

More likely a death grip!

@jaymay7957 Год назад

Gotta love how they always use “the best pictures” to make them look like some super happy nice person lol

@VampliFyer Год назад

When people are afraid and fear for their safety and well-being, good luck hoping a private citizen will step up and protect them when no cops are around.

@v3ck1n Год назад

The comments have spoken.

@kat8838 Год назад

Seems like bias and cheating to show the victim as a 16 year old kid in that photo when he's the older one by 6 years and the accused looking 45. If that's what the military did to him I feel real sorry for him too. Sometimes bad and unfair things happen and there's not always someone to fully blame. I doubt he gets very long or that it'll help reform him. Sad situation.

@adam__mark Год назад

Penny should walk free.. Honestly this tragic incident is a reflection of the city’s failure to manage both the homeless problem and subway security..

@paysosrodriguez7926 Год назад

Penny should go to jail for 2nd murder because he was the aggressor he nor anyone else has the right to physically hurt another person specifically when no physical harm was done to penny. It's hurtful and sad how you people feel he should be freed

@senseicorey9979 Год назад

His legal defense fund already broke $2 million. He will walk!

@jesterokjones4954 Год назад

@@paysosrodriguez7926 No, what's sad is your support of a criminal with over 50 separate charges including kidnapping a 8 year old little girl and assaulting a 70 year old woman so severely that he broke bones in her face. Remember, some day Karma is going to come collect on all the negative BS and falsehoods that you sew into your life experience.

@pmshea63 Год назад

Walk free? 3 min choke hold?

@jesterokjones4954 Год назад

@@pmshea63 Oh yes, go ahead and get hung up on a " 3 minute choke hold" and ignore what society had to deal with the entire time this animal was free. Have you even read about what that man had done?! Kidnapped a 7 year old girl, pushed a woman onto subway tracks, punched a 70 year old woman in the face until the bones in her face were broken....what else do you need?! That's only THREE of over 50 separate charges this dirtbag had! It's all about intent, Penny didn't intend to kill this man, only subdue him, it's not like he held onto the chokehold 3 minutes after he was unconscious, he was struggling the whole time until he went out and then he let him go.

@snapmalloy5556 Год назад

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Who put darkness for light and light for darkness".... And a few thousand years later Orwell called the same in a future society. We live in bizarro world

@samspade8830 Год назад

Free this man. You threaten a train full of people, prepare for the worst. Mental illness or not.

@kimlarso Год назад

It doesn’t work that way

@JGLuxe Год назад

@@kimlarso Yes it does. Why do you think the prosecutors aren't even sure if they have a strong case? They arrested him to please the crowds, but he did nothing wrong.

@v3ck1n Год назад

@@kimlarso Okay, you go on a crowded train car in NYC and start threatening everyone. Then see what happens

@deeznutz1098 Год назад

@@kimlarso bet if he was attacking you, you would've begged to that vet to help you

@MrAnderson5157 Год назад

We will remember that if your mind ever breaks.

@reaperrt1019 Год назад

If penny was wrong why didn’t anyone else try and stop penny???

@willvandermeer4733 Год назад

Should have never been charged! Neely, over 42 arrests. Unbelievable.

@itzsombra10 Год назад

So now we playing judge jury and executioner in the streets? You think he knew that when he choked him out

@sherrelljulion176 Год назад

@Itz Sombra exactly and that alone will lock the poor vet up. I get people sympathetic for him but he ended a life not even privy to the other information. Just took a life on a random day. It's nuts and uncalled for.

@JesseMeza07 Год назад

Tell, which one of his arrests warrants the death penalty?

@nyizzle4533 Год назад

Yeah over 42arrests and not a single murder this marine guy rides the subway and spends 3minutes choking a stranger to death for yelling. You'll have to excuse me but I'm more afraid of the marine than the dead nutter.

@willvandermeer4733 Год назад

@@nyizzle4533 you a poc or vote for biden?

@nyc1194 Год назад

This guy looks like he’s 45.

@britmturner843 Год назад

Omg this is such biased reporting!!! You FORGOT to add that while Neely was yelling, “I’m hungry and I don’t care if I die,” he was ALSO saying “I’LL HURT ANYONE AND I DONT CARE WHAT HAPPENS!” The train goers were in actual FEAR!

@coss1 Год назад

Funny, I haven't seen one news outlet report that he said that. NOT ONE. In fact, it's been reported that he never said that, and NBC retracted the report.

@coss1 Год назад

Those statements came from law enforcement who claimed "anonymous witnesses" made the statements. We all know police officers never lie, NEVER. ;)

@RcPlayer-tt2vw Год назад

Truth and nothing but the truth we present , I didn’t need to read this to know they alter the narrative, I also knew he was arrested over 10 15 times

@jenn1234 Год назад

😧

@JesseMeza07 Год назад

You can subdue someone without killing them. Marine was on a power trip.

@jrob4627 Год назад

We know he's a hero for standing up for everyone in that train car.

@Chaseful Год назад

he wasnt standing for me.

@RcPlayer-tt2vw Год назад

He’s going get paid either way , you can’t try to help in new York I learned that lesson at about 10 years old surrounded by teenagers trying strong arm me for bicycle and asked adults to help as they walked by lmao what a place New York New York

@shawnfoogle920 Год назад

yeah hes a hero. theres no telling what this criminal could have done, like pull a knife or gun i mean he was threatening people soo. innocent man being hunted by the left wing in their hopes of putting an innocent Marine in prison Disgusting left wing

@JesseMeza07 Год назад

By killing a dude?

@erismana2105 Год назад

@@JesseMeza07 violent criminal *

@williegilligan2661 Год назад

Whats the web site for his defense fund??

@betsybabf748 Год назад

I donated this morning.

@candiicaine5596 Год назад

@Ms1catHe has plenty support.

@juan_becerra Год назад

Classic failure of the system. Neely was a ticking time bomb. Out here punching out old ladies, and pushing people on the tracks. Something tells me that if he was ever successful in his attempts, the victims wouldn't have had 1% of his news coverage or attention.

@Sinnerswing Год назад

I agree. In most cases we all should be more grateful that some strangers on a subway train, bus or airline is willing to intervene and protect passengers from the potential harm from a person who is either making threats or acting erratic and unstable.

@adoredpariah Год назад

@@Sinnerswing Intervene is very different to killing though. Would you intervene if you saw someone being choked to death, for example?

@jesterokjones4954 Год назад

@@adoredpariah you're not real bright, huh? Intent, are you familiar with that very basic term? Neely intended to do harm to all those people he collected charges on, ya know, the guy he pushed onto the subway track, the 7 year old girl he kidnapped and 70 year old woman he punched in the face repeatedly and to the point he broke bones in her face. Penny's intent was to subdue an absolute madman, a poor excuse for a human being and an absolute animal. His INTENT was to stop him from executing his threats upon the people riding the subway because it was pretty clear he was absolutely unhinged. Good riddance, another useless and extremely violent sh*tbag taken off the face of the planet, again I say GOOD RIDDANCE!

@TheScooted Месяц назад

This is why people do not help each other any more.

@dolphinsippers4375 Год назад

These comments are disgusting you do not need to kill someone to protect yourself in all situations and everyone saying he is a hero are literally murder happy idiots

@erismana2105 Год назад

You're a defensive is for someone who tried to kidnap a child

@d.o.s.2394 Год назад

He’s a hero!

@esteemedmortal5917 Год назад

At least he should be convicted of manslaughter. It’s pretty disingenuous to say you didn’t foresee death as a result of a chokehold, especially for a former Marine.

@lpdog82 Год назад

the media keeps showing that man as a young dancing michael jackson impersonator SO DECEPTIVE, that was over a decade ago , neely was a deranged psycho with a very long violent criminal history , HATS OFF TO THAT MARINE THAT PROTECTED LIVES ON THAT TRAIN ! ! ! ! !

@motosk8er2 Год назад

The jury will find him not guilty!

@robtintelnot9107 Год назад

No they won't.

@groofoot Год назад

@@robtintelnot9107 Ohh, yes they will ... cry harder 8-)

@dr.g3860 Год назад

They will have more facts to consider at the time of the trial. He’ll be convicted of manslaughter and get a short prison sentence imo.

@robtintelnot9107 Год назад

@@groofoot It's New York and the jury will be bullied in to a guilty verdict. That's how the game goes.

@jackmanochs7085 Год назад

I hope he goes to jail for life.

@michealwhitehead4081 Год назад

I was very surprised when Jesse said that this individual that was killed, as unfortunate as that may be, was on a city-wide watch list and he was known to be a danger to himself and others. and he was out. That is going to be crucial and critical to the defense.

@bobbislay Год назад

Won't work its clear and perfect manslaughter, they charged him correctly. The man that was killed, his past doesn't matter in court he was charged for his past crimes. I hope the court does justice in this situation. Even if he made a mistake and genuinely didn't intend on killing the man, he did! That's the facts and he made the wrong decision to continue to hold a deadly choke hold on a person for 15 min. He's going to do some jail time.

@darkandedgy1457 Год назад

@Bobbi Slay it wasn't his past it was his current warrant and he was actively threatening people cry about it. So yes it does matter.

@bobbislay Год назад

Never will I cry for facts in America or American Laws in the different courts of the states. Facts are Facts that's it💁🏽

@arw8719 Год назад

@@bobbislay 3 minutes, not 15

@bobbislay Год назад

@@arw8719 okay but it only takes a few secounds for a human to total pass out while being choked 3 minutes is also too long. When the treat of danger is over you stop that's the law.

@dorei9235 Год назад

I thought he is innocent until proven guilty.

@gregrichey840 Год назад

Why are the authorities who had documentation that Neely was a danger to himself and others not in the hot seat? Why do private citizens put in these situations by the authorities who continuous shirk their responsibility face jail time while authorities are never held accountable? Whose job was it to keep a known dangerous person off the street?

@ztkrx Год назад

l understand restraint but when someone is done resisting you loosen your grip, period. l’m not saying he meant to kill him, l’m saying let go when the fight is over and it was over fairly quickly…..he held on for waayyy too long, and now he’s a “murderer” for the rest of his life…..have fun living a lifetime with that on your conscience (l couldn’t).

@assassinbullets928 Год назад

He did, and put him in recovery position.

@mlassz009 Год назад

After the not guilty verdict, I'm sure he will just fine with it

@JRoChi Год назад

If two other passengers helped Penny subdue him, why aren’t they also charged? This just screams George Floyd

@sherrelljulion176 Год назад

Well yeah a man was choked to death. Definitely similar to GF situation. Regardless of the situation I do feel bad for the marine but can't just go around choking people to death. That's illegal.

@RcPlayer-tt2vw Год назад

You know why

@wypiponice9257 Год назад

Not the right color but I’m sure you knew that already

@diannacotwright4892 Год назад

Karma!

@candiicaine5596 Год назад

Old St. Georgy. They sure know how to pick them.

@OliviaNile Год назад

For a long time, Jesse? Where are you getting this from? We don’t know for how long or short a duration of time Penny and the two other men were restraining Neely for.

@meganbogany8223 Год назад

If people were so concerned by his behavior, why didn't they just move to a different train car? I had to do this a lot when riding subway trains.

@assassinbullets928 Год назад

Because running away gives them a reason to keep going with the bs. Stand ur ground, or u will keep running.

@sylviamackay3487 Год назад

The Marine should not be prosecuted. He was saving people in the train. Xxx

@colonelkurtz2269 Год назад

Criminal: Im gonna go off today and nobody's gonna stop me! Later... Funeral director: How would he like this casket? Public: 😊

@danielgally6389 Месяц назад

at the end of the day justice in a society means protecting those who deserve to be protected and shunning those who deserve to be shunned. Let that sink in.

@gracenurse3365 Год назад

If you can’t handle crazy people yelling at you on the subway, you’re too soft for NYC.

@onebourbononescotch Год назад

It seems like the safety of violent criminals is more important than the safety of innocent bystanders.

@truthonly- Год назад

Seems tht way to you

@crashburn3292 Год назад

But were the innocent bystanders in danger because some guy was yelling about being hungry?

@cowboyx9380 Год назад

@@crashburn3292 He was threatening to harm people, get the facts straight! He was in a court ordered rehab, where he had shelter and food, but, he left the center in violation of his bond, and had a felony warrant issued….he left food and shelter to go bck to the subway and terrorise folks. Dont be shocked when the facts come out now, and the 911 calls are made public.

@lordraydens Год назад

@@crashburn3292 stop paining this criminal as some kind of victim

@onebourbononescotch Год назад

No. The other thing he said according to the witness who was there. He said, ‘I would kill a motherf-er. I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet. I’ll go to jail.’” why are people ignoring that part. It doesn't fit the narrative?

@paul1269 Год назад

Just here to agree with 99.99% of the other commenters that Perry did the right thing. The man is a hero. The left ruins everything they touch.

@desigirlBea Год назад

You are forgetting the offense of dragging a 7 year old.

@gatormarx83 Год назад

Comments are not surprising. Sad heartless world...

@britmturner843 Год назад

Love the Neely family coming out of the woodwork when this man was homeless and starving.

@SarahLovesBoobahandErEr Год назад

I have a GREAT idea! Maybe we should erect a statue of this fallen hero. Let’s paint murals of him in our cities. We must never forget!

@jimbond Год назад

I agree. Now anyone inclined to take action to protect people from danger will remember they might be arrested for it.

@allaboutrap1 Год назад

I don't think he 8ntended to kill him. 2nd degree sounds about right to me.

@lexiaaforever437 Год назад

Honestly I would’ve just left neeley alone if I was penny . If he wanted to act crazy on the subway …. Let him . Block him out & go on about your day . Why? Because there are too many mentally Ill people in America, you would be fighting them all over . So what’s the point .

@mr.peanutbutter6969 Год назад

Didn't he hit a kid that day ?

@M123OCT Год назад

Set this guy free - we need someone like him on every train.

@joemahma3457 Год назад

🤡

@df71091 Год назад

Cases like these will only show people that you just should avoid helping. You will die on the street cause no one will step up.

@adoredpariah Год назад

If you think this marine didn't know that choking someone for that long would be deadly, just hold your breath for three minutes, it's so quick and easy, right?

@jonathanisrael9714 Год назад

It is taught that 4 minutes without oxygen is deadly. I was surprised he died in just over 2 minutes of being restrained after threatening to hurt people. Sad that he died.

@sotorodrigo33 Год назад

@Jonathan Israel did you even see the full video with out news cuts? That choke was past 5 min

@jonathanisrael9714 Год назад

@@sotorodrigo33 God knows what's in the hearts of men protecting themselves from threats of violence.

@keithburton3713 Год назад

All New Yorkers need to support this hero for stepping up and helping others . Otherwise he’s going to be sacrificed to appease certain people.

@truthonly- Год назад

Lmao oh well some lambs will sacrificed 😂

@Bandhead07 Год назад

WHAT “CERTAIN PEOPLE” DO YOU SPEAK OF?

@Sniperboy5551 Год назад

The fact that he’s being charged is ridiculous. It better get dismissed otherwise I’ll lose all my faith in the system.

@feelincrispy7053 Год назад

You still have faith in the system? 😂😂

@ironknightgaming5706 Год назад

@@feelincrispy7053 Right 😂😂😂

@youtuberyoutuber312 Год назад

omg ur faith in the system is gonna go if he's arrested. what will all of us citizens do when you have no faith🤭

@HingleMacCringleberry Год назад

I'm surprised you haven't lost faith in the system already. It has been broken long before this case. The more money you have the less guilty you are regardless of the crime.

@truthonly- Год назад

Should've been lost it. Welcome back to earth 😂😂😂😂

@Austi-xt7tu Год назад

Got to love how they always use old pictures lol

@joeagneta2503 Год назад

God I hate living in NY so sad what this state has become

@KabukeeJo Год назад

This marine veteran is a HERO!!! He stood up to defend innocent people from a career criminal who should have been in prison!

@Groncheroente Год назад

Law and Order. He killed somebody now he pays for it. Hero or not ;)

@groofoot Год назад

@@Groncheroente Mr. Penny will Never spend a day inside a prison cell. Cope harder. ;-)

@keepingupwiththejaneiros2.764 Год назад

@@Groncheroente does that include people who kill other people to stop someone from harming or killing other people? That would put away every soldier and police officer who ever killed anyone

@mustang7603 Год назад

100 stand behind the marine!!! Alvin Bragg needs to be disbarred

@jackmanochs7085 Год назад

Marines are pussies

@JesseMeza07 Год назад

You know, when I'm on a public train and someone is causing a scene, the first thing that comes to my mind is "yeah, I'm gonna murder this dude." Dude apparently thinks this is Gotham City.

@sotorodrigo33 Год назад

@PP well he murdered him

@lordraydens Год назад

@@sotorodrigo33 no

@sotorodrigo33 Год назад

@timothy huff I mean 1 guy is dead so....wether he deserved it or not is not the question . Is he dead? Yes? Dudes at fault to a degree.

@lordraydens Год назад

@@sotorodrigo33 just because he's dead doesn't necessarily mean the guy who killed him is at fault

@AM-vo4pw Год назад

choke on my glizzy dudes a hero for having the balls to stand up, if he didn't screw up his technique he wouldn't have been charged

@erikalexander414 Год назад

I take no sides. I have a nephew who is a marine. He says any marine knows that when the carotid artery stops thumping, the person is done. A restrain is a "nelson" , a "rear naked choke", is a submission. Tense moments on a train, violent person spouting off and promising pain just before they defecate in public, yea I see it every day I live in San Francisco, you have to be cautious and ones survival instinct becomes keen. Is this Murder? No. Involuntary manslaughter yes, but you can't refute the fact 2 other strays were also holding dudes arms and legs and who knows what else... so you can't pin it on the leatherkneck. This is a tragedy and a call for some type of security reform to our transit systems in cities that suffer from this ongoing crisis.

@rosedevereux2391 Год назад

carotid artery

@jonsmith848 Год назад

I can see the Marching & Screaming now...when He's found Not Guilty..🇺🇸🗽🚇

@MrShmellit Год назад

That's called a weekday in Portland.

@bjkarana Год назад

Gonna be a busy summer on the streets.

@Bandhead07 Год назад

I CAN SEE THE MARCHING/PROTEST/LOOTING/POLLUTING………..WHEN HE’S FOUND GUILTY!!!🤣🫡

@deb8119 Год назад

With 40 mugshots, why do they always show the non mugshot photo??? Obvious media narrative.

@hitlur Год назад

that is one handsome man. whatever it is that he's accused of doing, he didnt do it.

@onebourbononescotch Год назад

Very handsome. But looks much older than 24.

@jullianbashir18 Год назад

He was acting in good conscience .. it’s unfortunate he died but it’s hard to judge the situation. From outside . It’s an unfortunate accident

@elmerhuyard3565 Год назад

That wasn't an accident. The autopsy ruled it homicide right?

@rickyt7666 Год назад

Good intentions is a fickle defense though.

@esteemedmortal5917 Год назад

@@elmerhuyard3565technically, homicide just means death at the hands of another person, regardless of whether it was justified or not.

@esteemedmortal5917 Год назад

Good intentions don’t mean much when Mr. Penny KNEW that a chokehold sustained for that amount of time absolutely results in death. There’s no way he didn’t know that.

@jullianbashir18 Год назад

At the end of the day we weren’t there , had it happened right in front of us … how would we have acted , and we say it after the fact …do we actually have the balls to confront … realistically :)

@warwickscram1656 Год назад

He looks like a Roman Soldier who has been taken captive by barbarians.

@sotorodrigo33 Год назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 who curly over there

@michealwhitehead4081 Год назад

Four doors to McConaughey. Nice. This is going to be an interesting case

@adoredpariah Год назад

There's really no excuse for choking a man to death over words. It wasn't just "restraint" it was deadly force.

@Ella.L. Год назад

Exactly

@deborahdobbie Год назад

Wrong.

@josephurbina2614 Месяц назад

You are most definitely one of the many cowards who would just sit there and let your fellow citizens be terrorized. Our country is getting worse and it’s absolutely because of cowards who hide behind their weaknesses.

@delectable288 Год назад

This man tried to help and is now being persecuted and prosecuted. I hope more people protest on his behalf. The people protesting for the homeless man who was a criminal should take all these homeless to their homes and look after them.

@imalwaysright88 Год назад

Exactly!

@CJBazerk Год назад

It takes seconds to make someone go unconscious from a rear naked choke. Goofy held on for 15 minutes. Real helpful 😂

@pederdaughter7170 8 месяцев назад

Why is there a mentally unstable man with 40+ arrests on a subway unsupervised?

@benninger123 Год назад

It shouldnt matter he killed the guy from what he did and the bottom line is , if a person is allowed to get away with this then what door opens for future incidents like this to happen. Is it a lot different if he would of had a giun and shot him. He could have the same defence is that he thought he was a threat to people . Lawyers and the law are so corrupt.