Jim Norton in studio, listening and reacting to candid audio of Marlon Brando on the set of "Apocalypse Now" where Brando explains why Burt Reynolds disgusts him.
Sounded like he was a little jealous of Burt Reynolds here, who was one of the most popular stars at that time. Reynolds has said he was a fan of Brando and approached him at a party to say how much he appreciated his work and that he was a fan, only to be brushed off by Brando. As far as I can tell, sounded like Brando had a chip on his shoulders from the get-go.
"He worships at the temple of his own narcissism." Projection of guilt from Brando, much? Marlon was super talented, but he was lazy and often difficult on purpose. He took millions from Coppola to play Kurtz on Apocalypse Now and then never read any of the material. You can even hear Coppola trying to cut short the idle chatter here and want to get back to work. I think Brando had a grudge against Reynolds because Burt actually lampooned Brando in an episode of The Twilight Zone.
Don’t forget his wounded “white saviour ” pride over native Americans, refusing his oscar using a “pet” Indian and then seeing Reynolds in “the man who loved cat dancing”, using a Native American child to promote the movie must have stuck right in his throat - underneath it all Brando was using native Americans for his own purposes in the same way that Reynold’s film was and he didn’t want to think that he was part of that same system of “acting” which he so contemptuously in denial of. To see a younger actor such as Reynolds who looked more like Brando than Brando, yet still had his looks through youth and doing things like that, must have been hard for his enormous ego to handle.
@@georgemorley1029 You are oblivious. Marlon didnt use the first nations speaker to make himself look good, because he knew it would do the opposoite and didnt care, as such he planned to reject his oscar and knew hollywoods systemic view on first nations people, as he cared about the issue. This point proven when the audience started boooing at the lady and didnt give a shit or wanted to hear what she had to say, even if it was on the behalf of Marlon, whom hollywood already admired. The point of Brandos move was to shed light on the mistreatment and generalized misrepresentation of first nations people in hollywood, that was all. On the largest stage of hollywood, the oscars, he had the chance and took it to do so. To call the person a "pet" who as an adult, was asked and who agreed to represent herself and her peoples and their experiences in society, and the issue at hand is just down right sensless. She was'nt forced to go on stage. You think that little boy enjoyed and wanted to leave his place of living and his mother, just so he can go onto a movie set to be fakely hugged and played by a complete stranger, for the strangers benefit of self promotion? "hey im a good guy, I hugged a first nations child" . You think thats the same purposefulness to make your self look better or to build your ego, or to use it as a self image tool? Equating these two uses , with complete differences in thier context and reasons is utterly stupid. Your thinking is so out of feild and archeiac that the first thing you thought was a battle of the egos, and speculated instead of stopping for a second to critically think about the fundamental reason why Brando did such a thing. If your saying that move at the oscars was for his own promotion and benefits, how did it benefit him for his public image and ego? You are a complete dip shit.
And I don't even think Reynolds's impression of Brando was a lampoon. I think he did it out of respect and admiration. But it also happened to launch his career, so Brando probably thinks Burt owes him royalties for that performance. Or he's pissed off that anyone would "steal" Stanley Kowalski from him.
I doubt Brando was so petty that he held a grudge from a sketch from years ago. Seemed to me that he hated fakes. He had faults himself and had admitted this in his biography. I'd say he might have misjudged Burt a bit though.
Brando hated fake people. He hated scripted dialogue, he hated Hollywood, he hated falseness. You can see this throughout the last half of his career, as he pissed around on set, was paid incredible sums of money for very little screentime, gained a tremendous amount of weight, rarely appeared in interviews to promote his films, and never talked about himself, always diverting the conversation onto somebody else or an idea. He always downplayed acting in every interview I've watched and too right he should have. He saw it for what it was, and that is glorified and worthless. He always said that everybody can act and that films are not art, they are simply a means of making money. A very thoughtful, and self-aware man at that.
The Slipknot song “Eyeless” has the repeating lines “You can’t see California without Marlon Brando’s eyes.” that apparently the vocalist Corey Taylor heard a homeless person saying. Now that I’m older I think I know what it means, lol
"He worships at the temple of his own narcissism" might be the greatest summation of someone I've ever heard. And when told someone is a nice guy, responding "He can't be." Perfect. I'm definitely stealing those.
Brando should've taken a good long look in the mirror before making statements such as this, about someone else. As it describes HIM to a tee! Brando was a total ass to most people, he had a major superiority complex & was as self endulgent as they come. "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones"...
@@The_Joker_ Whether Reynolds was a better actor than Brando, I'm sure most would disagree w/you. In his defense, Reynolds wasn't given many plum roles (& he turned down too many that were!). Therefore, his true talent was largely unproven for most of his career. But the talent was absolutely there, as an actor & director. In his frustration w/this fact, he admits he sold out his talent for easy parts (basically playing himself) for t/loads of money he earned in them. But Brando's "bizaare" obsession w/Reynolds, a person he didn't know or socialize w/at all, was 100% irrational & definately NOT sane. You are absolutely correct!
Cold Winter As per usual the majority would only see Brando as a world class actor simply because of the publicity that Hollywood are so good at. At least Reynolds could memorise a script. The better actor by far was Reynolds. Slowly over the years the truth behind Brando has come out, how he attempted to destroy Reynolds because he was a younger better looking and more talented actor. It got so bad that Brando had Reynolds shunned because of his Native American heritage. Brando was the guy who would only accept cash for his rolls and of course acquired many political friends. It’s sad that Reynolds was a class A actor but had no choice but to accept rolls that were B actor titles. Actors like Clint Eastwood had to do a very similar thing because he was not in the elite circles that exist in Hollywood. Sad that real actors are pushed aside so bad actors can get their way.
@@The_Joker_ You'll get no arguments from me regarding Brando...he was extremely self absorbed & a class A jerk to a lot of people. Reynolds was just the opposite...while he could be hot headed at times, he was extremely generous & kind to most everyone in t/business. T/industry should've given Reynolds better opps. He proved himself well later in his career in t/fantastic TV series Evening Shade & again of course in Boogie Nights. Why more A list films/TV didn't come to him after that is a mystery. He obviously had much more in t/tank. His poor financial situation, due to t/Loni nightmare, forced him to accept whatever work he could get. Very Sad. I don't think Clint stayed on B list for long. He's been an A list actor & esp an A list Director for decades now.
I wasn’t born until 1976 but from what I have learned was that Reynolds was a hot star in the 70’s and I’m certain that Reynolds was stealing some of Brando’s thunder in those days. Sounds like Brando was just jealous.
There's so many of those 'thespian' actors in Hollywood. Sean Penn, Sean Connery, Alec Baldwin, David Harbour....They're all so self important and pompous. They actually think that being an actor is up there with being a brain surgeon or a paramedic. Listening to them stroke their own egos when they give speeches where they talk about how important acting and movies are, how they change the world and how, as actors, they are shepherds leading the rest of us to a brighter future....the sheer arrogance of thinking that they're so much higher than us 'ordinary folk' that they have a responsibility to lead us. It's sickening. Most of them are all extreme Socialists and when they talk about guiding society 'forward' what they mean is 'towards Socialism', they just don't have the balls to come right out and say it. I love actors like Brando who just see acting for what it is: a job.
Brando had a HUGE superiority complex! Don't kid yourself in thinking HE was any different than any other actor you have ill feelings towards. You should actually be putting him on t/top of your actors, "I think I'm holier than thou" list!
I disagree with your assessment that Marlin Brando was not a Socialist. Artists have to take responsibility for the arts, it's what they do. You think Dickens and Michelangelo and Carol O'Conner and the New York Jew songwriters didn't change the world? Come on.
This is a total joke. Brando was a HUGE narcissist! His very weird obsession w/Burt defies logic. Burt was introduced to Brando once (when he was new in Hollywood) & he wouldn't even shake Burt's hand. Also Brando's story about Burt on t/Cat Dancing set is total BS. Burt was 1/4 Cherokee & played several Indian parts. He was a huge advocate for t/American Indian & would never do or say anything to offend t/heritage...or to offend any child. Burt loved kids & always wanted a big family of his own. Brando admits he didn't know Burt, but he knew Burt knew a lot of him. Burt was very close friends w/Rita Moreno, who had a long affair w/ Brando, whom Brando abused. He orig hated that some "new kid", who looked like him at t/time, might steel a bit of his thunder. Burt was well received & well liked by his peers. He was known as a fun-loving guy who didn't take himself too seriously. Burt was an extremely generous person & an amazing friend to those who were closest to him. Everything Brando hated. Everything Brando was not. While Brando was certainly a more acclaimed actor, he was an asshole and a strange human being, who I doubt had any real friends. He had deep emotional issues & his weird obsession w/Burt was just a symptom of that. Would Burt have liked to have been more respected as a serious actor, I'm sure yes. But I think Burt was just fine being Burt...not Brando.
Apparently the story is when Burt came onto the scene he was viewed as a younger up and coming Brando type and wanted to meet Brando and become friends with him. They eventually met at some club and Brando basically shunned him and was rude towards him. I don't know the rest of the story but word definitely got around that Brando was not the friendliest guy to people he didn't like and was often problematic on movie sets. Burt at one point looked up to him as many younger actors did but Brando wasn't willing to be friendly towards him. Maybe that impression Burt did of Brando played a part in him not liking Burt but it likely goes deeper than that. He definitely held some strange grudge against Burt who by nearly all accounts was said to have been a nice guy. It's pretty hypocritical of Brando to be critical of others when he had many issues himself.
Despite Brando's stated reasons, I'm sure many of us have had that discouraging experience where someone we admire takes a mysterious dislike to us. I know I have been on the receiving end of this dismissive behavior at least once. For example, I remember attempting to introduce myself to a man my brother had cultivated a relationship with based on admiration and respect, but when I got within a few feet of him, he wouldn't even look me in the eye.
To give an idea of how whacked Brando was, he thought Tom Laughlin's wife Delores Taylor - who I'm sure was a marvelous human being, gave the most amazing performances in the Billy Jack series. I imagine Brando was a minority of one in holding that assessment.
Brando going on to rip poor burt to shreds than someone asks him " do u know him? Brando :" no " is hilarious. Wonder if Burts very early impression of him bugged Brando.
Skunksrus is correct. You all are missing t/point here. For some odd reason, Brando was obsessed with Burt, NOT t/other way around. While Burt would certainly have wished to have gotten better parts, been respected as a better dramatic actor than he was, he had no interest in "being" Brando. He was quite confident & fine w/being Burt. And that doesn't mean Burt was a pompous ass. He was actually quite the opposite.
Brando hated Reynolds because Reynolds looks so much like him. Matter of fact Reynolds early in his career would lose acting jobs because the casting agents said he looked too much like Brando. I think that was probably one of the main reasons Burt grew a mustache. But Brando was a dick, just cause someone looks like you, you don't try to destroy the guy. Reynolds would have been perfect cast in The Godfather as he absolutely would have been believable as Brandos son
@@E101ification Ka Boom is right on with t/assessment. Brando had a very strange, inexplicable obsession w/Burt. He didn't even know him. When Burt was introduced to Brando for t/1st time, Brando wouldn't shake his hand that Burt extended & would barely look at him. Very rude & odd.
@@coldwinter5710 Also we should take into account that Burt wasn't the only actor that had issues with Brando. Richard Harris had issues with him on the set, as well as Dennis Hopper, and there are others. Burt was a little different in that it seemed more personal but still, Brando was notorious for causing trouble on movie sets and elsewhere. And look at his personal life and all the problems he had, seemed like he couldn't keep a stable family life, and there are several controversies there. It's not really my place to judge but I don't think Brando was a happy person. He was a brilliant actor and he did some good things like standing up for civil rights but I think all of these issues and behavior problems point towards him not being a very good guy. Should we really be trusting what he says about Burt Reynolds being this narcissistic jerk when Brando himself had many problems in his life and when others speak good of Burt? I don't think so.
I think Burt buried Brando when he was a younger guy trying to make a name for himself and probably regretted it later in life. The don't speak that name was funny though 🤣
@@WilliamsDad1989 Burt was a very good actor. These people don't know what they're talking about. We shouldn't be comparing his acting to Marlon Brando anyway, the issue is what happened between them, not their acting skills, they're both good.
@@ricardocantoral7672 No he didn’t He had his years in the sun and then Hollywood stopped offering him good parts. Boogie nights was an exception... Bit because he was such a big star, people couldn’t see past that and he wasn’t taken seriously as an actor. He was a very good one though.
@@kangaroo3708 All that crap he did with Hal Needham is what I call lazy. Like Roger Ebert said, Burt put in as much effort in films as that point as he did when he appeared on Johnny Carson.
Brando seemed a bit obsessed with burt. Its so funny he says all this shit about him & he is asked do u know him & marlon says " no" lol. Theirs kinda a famous clip of a very young burt who looked so much like young brando it's really astonishing & he parody's him & his method acting & is a real pain in the ass. It's clear he is making fun of brando but that was the part & direction. I think that's what pissed off old marlon. It's still funny bc marlon was projecting here he is known as one of the biggest prima Donna's. He also is said to be very nice too. Listen to what he put poor rita moreno through. She tried to kill herself bc he kept yanking her chain & she hated herself so much for putting up with him. He also loved to marry & knock up these uneducated island girls that he knew hed be bored with. Someone who knew him said he had such low esteem that he really made a pig of himself. 11 kids with multiple women who barely could speak English. That was his thing bc he had a mother who was a drunk & father who drank so he went for these flighty women who he knew would fail in a relationship. It's sad.
I suspect Marlon Brando was jealous of Burt Reynolds because Marlon wished he was as heterosexual and psychologically healthy as Burt. Burt had a good family upbringing while Marlon's mother screwed him up. I don't think Burt's flaws were as bad as Marlon imagines them, but Marlon's flaws are worse than we imagine them.
Or....Bur Reynolds really was a self important ass who thinks being an actor is up there with being a brain surgeon or firefighter. You people need to learn what an ad hominem attack is and that it's _not_ a valid argument.
Burt Reynolds would NEVER think being an actor is a higher calling than a surgeon. Esp since Burt almost died as a teenager and it was the surgeon who saved his life. Burt was ALWAYS the 1st to laugh at and make fun of himself.
@@coldwinter5710 Exactly. He was so self deprecating and he didn’t take himself seriously at all.... Maybe he had a movie star presence but he never took any of it seriously!
Brando destroyed Burt Reynolds to get top billing, Brando was a nut job. Reynolds was a way better actor but he was shunned because Brando had connections.
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Hahahaha Butt Reynolds better than Brando in anyway or in anything is a joke!! Marlon didn't like him and that is the way it is. There's people in life who you get along with and people who you can't stand. Obviously Marlon hated fake unauthentic people and I do too, and as far as acting and movie stars go Brando was in a league of his own!! Also in his private life he was a social activist who not only spoke about Indian's rights but walked with Martin Luther King Jr.!! Brando could have lost his own life fighting on the right side of history against racial discrimination for African Americans. He was very intelligent and wise beyond his years and he won 2 Oscars!! How many does Burt have? If anyone had the right to feel self important it should have been Brando! But he understood that an actor was just a job, so he didn't feel self important and he downplayed being an actor every chance he got, which was refreshing then and still is refreshing to hear to this day!! Brando didn't care for the Hollywood crowd, he was so much more talented than Burt could ever have been!!!
You’re another sheep my boy. Remember when Brando apologised to the Jews because of his little activism stunt against Israel in Hollywood only to stand up and apologise a few weeks later? Brando was a whore for hollyweird, it was all about money for him, he was a lazy actor who only read cards like a puppet.
@Robo Redneck Almost every one of them is posting the same comment - a declaration that Brando was jealous followed by an ad hominem attack listing every negative and questionable thing about the guy - as though any of that negates his initial point about Reynolds.
Early in his career, Burt was in a Twilight Zone episode where he did a parody of Brando... Brando obviously saw it or heard about it. He was being a little bitch. Between Marlon Brando and Burt Reynolds, who was the guy who took himself way too seriously?
@@E101ification You keep posting the same thing defending Brando. His point doesn't mean much when he never really knew the guy and others speak well of Burt. We all know Brando wasn't a Saint himself so his hatred for a fellow actor whom he doesn't know is pretty strange. I guess whatever Brando says you'll just believe because you clearly favor him when we've only heard his side of the story. Actually I think Burt called Brando immature but that was after he heard about Brando's nasty comments. Bottom line, I don't care how much he hated Hollywood or what Burt represented, he was way out of line and should've kept his mouth shut, but Brando lacked class, on and off the set.
Are u ccrazy ? Just go and ask people arroudn the world and ask who is more famous. :D Marlon Brando ...everybondy knows him, the godfather, desire, waterfront ...foh... u are out of this world. :D Marlon Brando is like number 2 on all time best actors. bitch pleeease.
I think by now nobody in the world remembers who is Burt Reynolds, only who lived in the 70's or maybe in the 90's but Brando is always remembered as one of the great actors ever and by his Godfather performance
