Marten Hagstrom on the Meshuggah M80M Ibanez 8-string signature model 

+MiiLkyToKes67 Just buy Digitech Drop pedal, you won't need another guitar again.

+Hans Wurst actually the brooklyn bridge is his latest lower string.

MiiLkyToKes67 when you upgrade to an 8 you'll be imitating 9 string songs.

7 is enough i think personally. haha

hahaha poor people

Literally have never once seen a single person say this. Is this actually a thing? They are insanely good guitarists.

@@KyleDanielson42I don’t think anyone says that. More likely this guy just made it up to sound smart for disagreeing with someone who doesn’t exist.

i just saw someone saying they are bad at guitar. so yes those people do exist. maybe they are trolling?@@sigiligus

They far from suckin on guitar wtf ? Lmao 🤣 wow… I’ve seen them live and they sound exactly like the fuckin albums. Best sounding show I’ve ever been to as well.

Gotta have it to get that F to not sound like utter crap

@@Chuggsbigman Yeah, I have this model, and the scale length obviously is quite something to get used to, but it's worth it to have that massive tone. And even with this length, it's borderline muddy. I can't understand how 8-strings are commonly 27 inches, it seems the 29,4 is pretty much required for the tone to hold up at all.

Chuggsbigman Nah. Architects tunes to F# on their lowest 6th string on a 25.5” scale guitar (Josh Middleton) and it sounds great. It’s all preference. I’m honestly surprised Ibanez ever green lit a guitar like this for production. I guess I’m biased since I’m not a big baritone fan to begin with but nearly 30” is borderline unplayable as a guitar for most styles unless you want to only cover Meshuggah and Meshuggah-esque styles of metal.

@@MK4vDubbin Why is it unplayable? I’m looking at getting an 8-string myself.

Me too. I couldn't go

Oh, same

John plays an 8 string now

@@Xiphos1349 But that's only for select songs. The bulk is still 6 and 7 strings.

I've had an Ibanez RG7421 for about a year with a set of SD blackout 7's. Does this guitar match mine sound and quality-wise? I'm interested in an 8 string.

+Jason Yonda To put it simply, in some ways, the M80M is light-years beyond the 7421, but it also only has one pickup and one volume. It's not the best if you are looking for versatility, but it excels at what it was made for, which is crystal-clear rhythm playing at the brown-note. The neck is pretty much the longest one you can find in a baritone guitar, which gives you insane clarity, but also makes it way harder to play than a 7421. It's somewhere in between your guitar and a bass. Personally, I'd get a further mastery of the 7-banger before you try moving on to 8. It feels alot weirder to transition from 7 to 8 than from 6 to 7. With the two extra strings, it kinda throws your mind for a loop when you're trying to play stuff that wasn't intended for an 8-string, which I do quite a bit on mine, since the tones are so brutal. I absolutely love Lundgren p/ups. They kick the crap out of SD and Dimarzio, that's for sure.

I will definitely agree, my Ibanez 7 string RG is basically a different instrument in comparison, the frets on the m80m are way spaced apart, making shred playing very difficult, but youre right too, the chugs are super crisp which is very necessary for the technical rhythm playing of meshuggah and similar bands

you won't regret it, this guitar is incredible.

are you saying that meshuggah sucks?

agile 8s are 30 inches so there long as hell also

+Scott Gallimore And the bridge starts why up higher on the body compared to the M8. I used to have an Intrepid 8.

So these are baritone guitars?

Esteban Aguayo 27" is considered baritone.

It’s 750mm, it’s a beast

+Tate Anderson Frekdrik Thordendal approved your wish in 2015.

They don't use their 8 string Icemans any more because they aren't well balanced.

Gigerian What do you mean they? Only Fredrik used an iceman.not marten.

Oblique Sustain They both did. Marten quickly stopped playing his, he's the one that publicly complained. Fredrik stopped playing his onstage not long after.

Do you have a link to this news?

How is it? Im also wanting one

I'm thinking about getting one. How is it?

I think they didn`t want to make their own soundconcept acessable for everyone. Now that the 8-String is a marketstandart and the Djent-Hype going on he must feel like he lost a fight.

Na not at all. He's just a musician and not a salesman. Philosophical ppl don't care much about money, and you can definitely see this hurt his soul. Ibanez custom makes that specific guitar for him. He probably made a deal early in the bands history to market the guitar for free supplies. He seems to regret it. Who knows maybe all my assumptions are wrong, and he was just sick that day.

iFokshe Pah Tiziano Volante What Tiziano said. Also I might add that I do not believe anything that Marten tells us here because there is a reason the M8M costs 3k more than the M80M. Let`s talk about similar looks and then about quality on a different day. Because there will be a huge difference in quality for sure. (haha nice dich do z finde, Tiziano ;*)

Crescendo well duh. the problem with that is that it's just elaborated meshuggah emulation someone pretended to be genre. it's NOW different enough, but ... yeah..

Or he's just very stoned xP Philosophical people often smoke stuff :)

Albert Pike do that!

What cheaper 8-strings would you recommend? The only cheap 8-string I saw was the Ibanez RG8.

so much for just a half step down?? the factory tuning is F to D#... are u sure? :)

***** as standard meant F# B E A D G B E,in that case?

Krovy Moloko I still think the standard tuning should be BEADGBEA. Thats just me those, As well as the 9 string being F#BEADGBEA.

Aaron kidd Who's to say that it's not? Guitarists usually think about tuning in all fourths, straight down. If your 8 string is BEADGBEA and mine is F#BEADGBA, then who cares, right? Musicians/guitarists will still know exactly what you're talking about, you're technically correct but I don't there is a universal eight or nine-string "standard" when it comes to tuning.

Syd Barrett Demiurge

That's what she said.

You beat me to it...... That's what she said

Nick Simeone its blocked so you dont need springs at all.

It's not a tremolo. It's a fixed bridge.

MrTisjeboy Demiurge

Pause it at 2:31 There ya go

+Grosso Guitar new millenium cyanide christ

@@mihalyhajdu102 actually its rational gaze

Counter-tip: Always smoke a shit ton of weed before making videos.

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