@@nathanielpearman9169 1. array destroys all sentient life. 2. chief could just kill the ghost when it tries to revive the uninteresting space magic wielding protagonist
Let's be honest: if Chief was ever in the Destiny universe, he'd be revived as a guardian, and probably go on to be the strongest striker titan of all time. Zavala would hate him, but he would be Lord Shaxx's new favorite guardian.
cold rain no it implies that chief needs a crush to survive a fall while our guardian without its light can survive a fall like that and still get up and walk
and by walk you mean limp while requiring medical assistance. Chief on the other hand, fell from the equivalent of 500 skyscrapers and was able to get up and fight like nothing happened. Your argument is invalid.
Guardians win this hands down, whether it is speed (with update), strength (punches a mountain that makes it move), weapons (golden age tech such as black hole guns, cold fusion devices) and powers (immortality, Void, solar, arc powers) etc.
@@soujaunlimited those are gameplay things and the bullet used to kill Cadye’s was a hive bullet specifically built to break reality and kill a ghost also if you did want to kill a ghost with out using space magic fuckery you would need to repeatedly carpet bomb it with nuclear warheads
With the "picking up tanks without breaking stride" thing there is destiny lore about powerful guardians picking up large fallen walkers, one entry went on to say that one titan picked up and threw another titan for miles, and the other titan used his fist of havoc to create a blast radius of a mile or so, and survived so there are a few extremely powerful guardians out there
That's if cheif can kill a guardian tho, lore wise guardians have no cool, they slaughter their enemies and if they do die they come back with a rage and will absolutely break time and space
*master chief shoots the Ghosts* ez fix Edit: Also if they are a “ manifest of light” they can still technically be killed. Using physics, the halo arry can disperse the light in the ghost rendering it useless.
Broken Bones lmao, wrong. Ghosts’ Light (Capital “L”) is superordinate to material physics, and as such they are extremely hard to kill without a weapon that violates all logical causality. Which the halo rings are not, and Chief does not have.
Well in PvP in destiny a guardian can take a lot of hit from other guardians so that helps you gage the power of there armor but in my opinion a guardian would win.
I think Chief would easily win. I have no doubt that a nova bomb would blow him sky high, but I seriously doubt a warlock would have chance to use it. It's kinda hard to beat someone who can run at 60 kph and flip battle tanks with his hands. Give him an assault rifle and that guardian is dead. Plus, you mentioned the technology gap, but I'd argue that's not an issue. The Covenant are far more advanced than the UNSC, as are the Forerunner Prometheans, and he beats up elites for fun and turns knights into scrap metal
Adam Marchese yeah that last point is one that I was going to make. Chief has plenty of experience fighting more technologically advanced groups like the covenant or the forerunners. To the best of my knowledge, all the space going species in Destiny are around the same level technologically so it's hard to say how the guardians will react to Chief. It's possible that a guardian would underestimate Chief and give him an early advantage. Hard to say
@@jboydayz Halo Fanboy: nooo you cant exist your game is thrash and is dead Destiny Guy: Wheter we wanted or not, Shaxxercise Other Destiny Guy: Indeed
For those who don't know, Dr Halsey visited John and tested him on what she thought it was the most important test of all, luck. This is in fact not a protagonist power, but rather a known stat. There are stronger, smarter and faster Spartans than Master Chief, but his factor in luck is very high and is what keeps making him win battle after battle. They Guardians never get this factor mentioned for them in their lore. Seriously, go look for it, it's a real thing for Master Chief. Comics, books, games, it's everywhere.
This is how it would go. *Spartan and Gaurdian start a fight.* *Covenant/Eliksni show up with SIVA/Halo Ring* *Spartan and Gaurdian team up to save the day*
I don't think you've realised that anything wielding as much power of either the light or the darkness as a Guardian or high ranking Hive is supposed to be flat out beyond the power of any being wielding power based solely upon mere science. So unless Master Chief has something equivalent to magic, he cannot begin to challenge a Guardian.
Yes but, guardians can kill eachother with their abilities, no matter if they have exotic armour or not, and I would compare 343 guilty sparks laser to the golden gun, can't remember what it's called I havent played d1 for years and im not a big fan of 2 even though i pre ordered it, but he take atleast 5 second constant damage throughout all the bursts, but the golden gun shoots one beam, so maybe if he can survive that then he could survive a golden gun, idk about the other abilities because there are no comparisons but i think he could beat gunslinger
I think it's impossible to truly determine as there are many variations of cheif and his abilities and different guardians and grind loot, no one would win?
I think it would be very dependent on what class Shepard is in this scenario. If he were a soldier, I imagine Chief would win, since the only real difference between them is the augmentations. If he were a vanguard or an adept however, I reckon he would be able to tear Chief in two.
The guardians also have similar skills as chief when it comes to dodging attacks, some being even better. They also have enhanced combat skills which includes reaction time.
That’s not one of his weapons, plus the guardian would kill him before he got the chance. Or if he did activate it they would both die but the guardian would come back to life.
Now chief leading a fireteam of guardians.. that's something I'd love to see. Imagine if he had guardians in halo 4 right before he nuked himself you hear a golden gun pop off and he looks up to see cayde ripping golden gun shots into the "main boss" (cant remember his name)
If you give John the invincibility tech from halo 3 he wins hands down. I also think his tactical knowledge + sniper would make him a guardian slaying machine. Last point, but I think the railgun (or whiplash/arclight) might be one of the best weapons to kill guardians with. Advanced tech or not, mass being thrown at extremely high speeds is a hard thing to counter.
ardenthebibliophile, Railguns fire a big piece of a certain metal alloy, or depleted uranium, but case in point, an object like that being shot at you, at near light speed, would shatter a guardian, because remember, a S-II's bones are almost unbreakable, and their muscles are extremely dense as well for their muscle fibers, a guardian is just a human ( or whatever the hell you use ) who can resurrect ( if the ghost isnt dead ) and can use space magic at their disposal, also, in an every thing goes fight, i think chief wins, not only because of his quick adaptation to new weapons and overall superior combat experience, but because he can have Forerunner weapons at his disposal, now i dont know about you but if chief uses a Heart Seeker, im pretty sure the guardian and the ghost is both dead. The guardian can hold his own though im not gonna lie, a guardian might surprise chief by revive and magic, but chief in the end would win if he kills the ghost
Fist fight - Fist of Havoc, it's over. Gun fight - Gjallarhorn, it's over. Anything goes - Golden gun, it's over. In fact this whole 'fight' can be summed up by golden gun, I'd have two shots spare too.
TBC1 madter chief: i need a weapon Guardian: i need a magical, fire shooting, sentient gun forged from the light of mystical beings that traveled through time and space from an aternate reality where destiny is a good game
GiveMeYourEggs XD. You call him bitch chief, and yet the guardians rely on their little immortality drone to survive battles. Master chief has taken down gods.
Just pointing out: Chief has training from his years of experience, etc, and Guardians recieve all of their combat training from either the crucible (For PVP) and in Vanguard Strikes as well as Nightfalls. I still agree that it depends purely on scenarios. :) Chief is a ridiculous super soldier, laden with experience, whereas the Guardian possesses insane abilities, and advanced tech.
Chief has more than years of experience if you consider how long he's been alive and how long and how many times he's went into cryo sleep to fight the next war by himself
Something to note, guardians like Zavala have been around for CENTURIES! I’m pretty sure a well seasoned guardian would be able to win in a fight with a spartan.
The ghost lives in the backpack. You'd have to kill the guardian first, and then get to it before the guardian is revived. This doesn't take into account that guardians are objectively stronger than spartans, being faster, jump higher, better seapons, and able to heal within seconds. Their shields are comprable to that of spartans, being able to take similar amounts of damage. Finally, guardians have their trump card: their supers will kill any spartan instantly. Mjolnir armor doesnt stand a chance against a golden gun shot. Lets see him out brawn a titan using hist fist of havoc. Or try fighting while tethered to a shadow shot. Nova bomb? No way in hell is he dodging that. His weapons are weaker. His armor is much heavier while providing the same abilities that titans have. He is slower, bulkier, ad *less* experienced than many guardians. Yep, thats right. Because many guardians literally have centuries of battle experience because they dont age. Add that to the fact that none of his accomplishments match what guardians have pulled off. Lets see master chief kill oryx on the dreadnought. He would have just been taken and added to oryx's army.
Nathan Lang you mean he dosent kill a god in halo 4 that survied the destruction of every living thing in the galxaxy and chief would have cortana if the gurdian had a ghost also im a fan of both series
Some guardians have a ton of combat experience over master chief though. The Crucible and Iron Banner (PVP) are a part of the lore. Guardians don't just simulate and fine tune training. They perfect each other through death and learning through death. Love Chief but he's one of a kind, and there's no one really quite at his level to help him train beyond his perfection. The guardians have each other and kill each other mercilessly to fine tune combat skills.
Funny..cause there's something insanely similar in Halo called War Games, which is the multiplayer part of the game. Think spartans kill each other for real? Red vs Blue? Nah.. Its all a big simulation which either let's spartans compete against each other or simulate a firefight against hordes of enemies throughout various sets of objectives.
Have you seen how wrecked the guardians get in the Destiny 2 cutscenes? Zavala gets KO'd like it's his job. Cayde loses his arm. Master Chief is still in tact after countless battles. And The Answer, Nornfang, SPNKR Prime, Void's Tear (btw, are we sure it isn't pronounced tear as in when you tear something? I've always thought it was tear like you cry, but it literally creates a tear in the universe by summoning a black hole), Prophet's Bane, which would destroy a Blade Dancer, and H2 Delta Beam Rifle- even the Blaze of Glory. The Bubble Shield offsets the Titan's Bubble because it's just equipment for Chief. Vorpal Talon, with its ridiculous range and increased mobility, would beat the Arcstrider. SPNKR Ex and Ad Victorium would counteract the Nova Bomb, especially if Chief threw on Invincibility or the H2 Overshield. The Answer kills Uriel's Gift. Plus, Splinter Grenades. Heartseeker, too. There's tons of great Destiny exotics, but they're all balanced, whereas the super weapons of Halo are designed to be overpowered.
They rely on light to win, that itself is reason enough. If Chief had all his current stats plus the ability to use Light he'd be the most broken Guardian in the game
“The Khvostov is the ony weapon we can relate to” Now: TLW, drang, dead man’s tale(?) and Ace Of Spades all look similar to real life weapons, especially the Drang which looks like a WW1/2 pistol, TLW which looks like a revolver, Dead Man’s Tale looks like a generic lever-action rifle, and Ace Of Spades looks like a revolver with a extended barrel.
Strudel plus the other guardians they can revive them in darkness zones let's have blue team vs a destiny raid squad all from destiny 2 forsaken with 600 power
+zachary copeland ehh I’d say a trials team vs blue team, that way it’d be a 4v4. But, blue team has the greatest sniper in human history, idk man, accounting for 4 guardians with many variable abilities and guns and classes is hard, but I’d probably bet on blue team
Sam Harrington You know that the shield lock only works on Spartans right Destiny guardians don't wear like armor that enhances them besides defense and strengthening in attack
In a fist fight, Chief could possibly win, depending on the guardian he fights. Some melee abilities are worthless against Chief, but defensive melee abilities/warlock melee and a couple others could theoretically shred him, if a shot is landed. But that’s assuming that a punch is landed. Against stormcaller melee, he would be helpless but other than that he would probably deck them in 3 seconds or less. In a gunfight, Chief has successfully taken down enemies that are light years ahead technologically, even when they’re competent enemies. Guardians, against competent foes, can’t outmatch tech like he can. So if I had to bet I would bet Chief, but I honestly would rather not bet in the first place there. With no limits, the guardian wins. Period. Short term invincibility is defensive and can in no way make up for the sheer offensive power supers give. You can’t fight tracking Nova bombs, golden guns, nightstalker tethers, or fists of havoc which all grant increased durability. That being said, whoever gets first shot probably wins there. I do feel like Chief would win overall, but like Luke said there are far too many variables to determine.
Resolute There is Paracausality in us and it's Not normal 'magic', so how would UNSC armor defend itself against the Void? Since some Guardian armor aren't made by ordinary means or found in our System in the first place, and some would be crafted by Ascendant Hive materials. Now if the Master Chief had his armor 100% Forerunner-made.......
Then he quickly reacts and shot the titan.... but then he see his end has come.... because that is no normal titan..... IT IS A STRIKER OEM SHOTGUN APE TITAN
Your wrong about the khovostov time frame when it was made, the golden age started around the late 21st century, and lasted for a few centuries. Now the khovostov could have been made right before the collapse, but it is very similar to the tech we have today, so it wasn’t made during the time of halo
There is 2 things you did miss, 1 being that guardians before the collapse(current Destiny 1 and 2 time) in the golden age had way more equipment, so much more technology and many more years of experience in all kinds of combat. another thing is the fact that there are exotics which give unbelievably good benefits. --- Now I'd like to see what would be the comparison in power towards the "Traveler" or the "Darkness"(The Darkness is the Galaxy sized star fleet of unknown origin that chased the traveler through the cosmos for millenniums) to the power of the fore runners.
A seven feet tall, 1000 pound, clad in armor and shields, badass super soldier who single handedly killed millions of covenant vs. A Space Fairy. Yeah, no clear winner.
The Guardian you play has killed millions Fallen, Hive, Cabal, and Vex. That "Space Fairy" has slain GODS AND CONQUERS OF GALAXIES. You should look at of these characters in detail before you spout nonsense 😄
Chief would win easy, one little thing about the technology between the weapons is that the UNSC's weapons are inferior to the covenant weapons AND tech, yet he was able to make inferior weapons CONSTANTLY beat the better ones because of his MASTERY of the weapons, and really any weapon he picks up he is already adept to near mastered it. the tool doesn't make the man as the saying goes, there is a reason why the covenant called him "DEMON"
You realise how fast spartan 2 reflexes are? Even out of armour they can dodge bullets, that's amplified in armour, and even more with ai assistance, the throwing knife would look like a leaf slowly falling from a tree, even most bullets
@@jakebatty530 you do know guardians as shown in the games are largely down scaled for game play purposes. in lore they could move mountains move at hypersonic speeds and just like in the game slay gods that control space itself and tank planet level attacks. also they are immortal, only way to kill them is to kill their ghost which operates outside of our space-time, and you'd need the same space magic only wielded by guardians to kill it. chief no matter how bad ass he is just cant compare
you're forgetting the Khovostov is a old weapon form the golden age/ collapse so it was NOT made around the same time as the AR from halo. i am very big fans of both games and i knew i had to check it out as soon as i saw the vid. i do think master chief can win as he can pick up anything that a guardian would drop and use it effectively, which would even out the technology n that side, but a guardian does have the ability to carry three weapons. Master chief can only carry two. Titans from destiny 1 shared many abilities as the Master Chief in halo 5. titans had shoulder charge, Spartans had spartan charge. titans had death from above while Spartans had ground pound. titans have more strength then other guardians which may be able to contend with the master chief. hunters have the fastest reflexes and agility which may be able to even the fight with the chief. the motion tracker from halo is better than the one from destiny giving the chief an advantage. the Hakke weapons from destiny are similar to modern weapons and were made in destiny's time unlike the khovostov, which is a relic. arc and solar damage would be less effective on the chief which means void would be the best, but that could still be weak against the chief's armor but we really can't tell without more info. omolon weapons would be a close mach in the effect on the chief as covenant weapons. the energy sword vs a sword from destiny, the energy sword would win unless the guardian uses the swords elemental defensive abilities. the could go on forever and until we have more info there is no clear winner as stated in the video, but as of right now, i would bet on the chief because of everything he has been up against. he has the most experience.
The Khovostov WAS made in the Golden Age/Collapse, but that was MORE technologically advanced that Halo's entire universe. Like, seriously, the power level of Destiny is massive. In Halo, we can roughly compare characteristics to Real Life. In Destiny, we can't do that at all, purely because of the time difference and literal Space Magic.
Kellar the gaming lord And Guardians have killed around a DOZEN Gods. Care for a list? Oryx Crota The Three Deathsingers Alak-Hûl Malok Omnigûl The Heart of the Black Garden Atheon The Templar Panoptes Empowered Ghaul Every Cabal ranking officer Sepiks Prime Sepiks Perfected Aksis Literally EVERY Kell, Archon Priest and Prime Servitor from each Fallen House Each of these is effectively a God-Tier threat, with the Vex and Hive ones even more so. Purely by virtue of the Sword Logic, Guardians some of the strongest single entities in the galaxy, because they have beaten all of the above. Factor in their effective immortality, their ability to conjure energy out of thin air, and their aura of sheer paracausality (read: don't obey the laws of time and space), Guardians have far more capability than a kidnapped child pumped with drugs and given power armour.
Guardians definitely have some degree of superhuman physical abilities, but unlike with Master Chief it’s pretty vague just how strong they are. However at the beginning of Destiny 2, we’re stripped of our light and get knocked off the Tower probably thousands of feet towards the surface and somehow survive without our powers. It’s fair to say they’re superhuman at least. Edit: There’s a lot of lore of certain Guardians doing insane things like killing a Kell (15 foot tall Fallen) with a single headbutt or punching a mountain and the mountain shaking. These seem to be crazy outliers and like most things dependent on the Light of the Guardian. I think a good baseline is how in the D2 campaign, Zavala (with no Light) managed to wrestle away a shotgun from a Cabal soldier which we know to weigh around 800 pounds.
I think that, in the anything goes fight, it's about equal. Either the Destiny guardian fires rockets or a Nova bomb, and Chief is turned into a thousand tiny pieces, or Chief does the same to the Guardian.
Even though i love halo alot more than destiny. I have to give it to destiny. For these reasons. 1.imortality: if this were to be a hand to hand combat master chief would win the fights. But the guardian could just be resurrected over and over again to tire out master chief. No one can deny that chief is old even with his enhanced body he will eventually get tired and when that happens the guardian can make his move and kill the chief 2. The guardian: it all depends on the guardian he is fighting. if he is fighting a titan the titan would win. In lore titans have the ability to crush dimonds with there bear hand and they can punch through solid objects. Such as saint-14 when he punched through that fallen kell. Plus in the games the special melee attack doesn’t go away until you have hit your target or killed him even with master chiefs incredible reflexes that would only go so far eventually chief would slip up alowing the titan to get in that melee attack and punch straight through him. If the guardian he is fighting is a warlock then all he has to do is directly melee him. Chief wouldn’t be expecting that melee hit from that far away so the warlock would catch chief by suprise that hit would knock him on the ground allowing the warlock to finish him off with a shotgun or a super such as nova bomb If chief is fighting a hunter the hunter will outmatch him with his quick fast mobility and attacks plus his supers if he is fighting an arcstrider the mobilty will be to much for him and the hunter will be able to move in close in enough to finsh him with his arcstaff or shotgun if he is fighting a golden gun all the hunter has to do is activate his golden gun and get one or to shots off on him master chief wont be able to doge that because the bullet will travel at the same speed or even faster than a normal bullet. As for a nightstalker all the hunter has to do is shoot his tether once near chief or at him for it to work chief will get stuck and barely be able to move his body allowing the hunter to move in close and finish him 3. Feats: yes chief has killed beings that have much better equipment and weapons than him but so have the guardians for example the vex and hive and the cabal in some cases. But guardians have literally faced gods, world destroyers, demons and beings that can create their own universe the only things chief has ever done that compared to the achievements of the guardians is destroying the halo rings and killing the didact. In the end guardians would over power chief no matter how super human he is
Thank you couldn't have said it better myself holy crap. It's funny to think about how some halotards think masterchef Ramsay is a god and are delusional to anyone being able to challenge him its frankly annoying.
I agree with a lot of what, you say except about the hunter being faster than cheif, unless there's somewhere that shows hunters being able to perceive bullets in slow motion, they aren't faster, spartan 2 can go from standing to running at like 40mph near instantly, and even out of armour their reflex is enough to dodge bullets, which is amplified by their armour and further amplified if they have an ai in their suit, in other words, hand to hand combat, none of the guardians will lay a hand on him, they're literally moving in slow motion for him
You may have forgotten to mention that the guardians are literally immortal. So even if cheif wins the guardian can just resssurect until cheif dies of exhaustion. Unless cheif finds away to destroy the ghost.
Nyygma that was just a fan creation (if we're talking about the same thing). Spartans do have charges that essentially burn the suit (or at least the Spartan II's do) and everything a good chunk away from it to prevent any hostiles from gaining their tech. But, again, from my understanding, the charges only activate after a Spartan dies in combat.
In an anything goes fight, the guardian would win, why? Because they have ghosts that can ressurect the guardian, and master chief would eventually get tired from killing the same guardian over and over again. The only question is: is it a first to die fight, or a first to *stay* dead fight?
