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Masterminds VS. Courses (Introducing Wetube) 

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@samovenstv
@samovenstv 2 года назад
Masterminds > Courses. Do you agree or disagree? Speak to me.
@MarketingConsultantPLR
@MarketingConsultantPLR 2 года назад
Its clear to me how teaching someone to make more money in their business would be a great fit for this. But what about "soft skills" type programs? Specifically something like leadership development or management training.
@Copypastedates
@Copypastedates 2 года назад
Idk man all I know is I’m still trying to execute on accelerator. My main question for you is should I ditch accelerator to do masterminds or keep doing accelerator then sell masterminds once I get more accelerator clients. Want to see how you look at masterminds versus accelerator
@MohammedIbrahim-kb5ok
@MohammedIbrahim-kb5ok 2 года назад
Humble yourself
@PaulGerardMotivation
@PaulGerardMotivation 2 года назад
Trying to sign up but my card won’t verify, fingers crossed I don’t miss the opportunity as accelerator has been a game changer for me todate
@BrentSparks
@BrentSparks 2 года назад
I agree, Sam. And I think you are onto the next big thing...no surprise! :)
@producerdevelopment
@producerdevelopment 2 года назад
Courses still work. 1/1 coaching still works. Webinars works. Memberships work. Everything works. Don’t get distracted by the shiny object syndrome.
@theinfamousjoel4551
@theinfamousjoel4551 2 года назад
Yes they do but Sam's whole mission is to get his clients to a consulting nirvana which is a state of completely passive income. This is as close as I've ever seen from him to that idea. Sam is a legend
@drfionatassoni
@drfionatassoni 2 года назад
Isn't trying all the different methods you state above the exact definition of chasing shiny objects?
@citizendc9
@citizendc9 2 года назад
I agree. What has worked before still works now.
@producerdevelopment
@producerdevelopment 2 года назад
@@drfionatassoni I mean just pick one and roll with it.
@producerdevelopment
@producerdevelopment 2 года назад
@@theinfamousjoel4551 so the mastermind runs itself?
@DumitruMariana208
@DumitruMariana208 2 года назад
Great video!! Investments are stepping stones to wealth .., you won't have to worry about money any more mostly because your investment creates more money
@Monikaestor
@Monikaestor 2 года назад
Really just Gold and stocks? In this era of crypto and forex? Come off it man! you're not investing right!., you need to review your investment strategy
@lyonrousseau1886
@lyonrousseau1886 2 года назад
Well said, I invest in crypto and in 1year I've made so much money from it than my investments in gold of over 5 years, I'm currently redeploying most of my investment in gold into crypto
@Antoniopedro7624
@Antoniopedro7624 2 года назад
I tried to trade forex and crypto on my own but had a big failure and in that process I lost funds of over $102,000. I don't know what the issue is.
@lyonrousseau1886
@lyonrousseau1886 2 года назад
@@Antoniopedro7624 There is the problem man! you shouldn't be investing without a professional guide, it's similar to gambling your money. You should get a professional broker
@lyonrousseau1886
@lyonrousseau1886 2 года назад
I recommend my portfolio manager Rebecca Mayer. She's definitely the best I know, she changed my life and finance for better and she's still making me loads of money.
@BrianMoncada
@BrianMoncada 2 года назад
Masterminds are definitely better than Courses, as it's simply more involving! Excited to partner with you on this Sam, can't wait to grow WeTube together :)
@RaisesCom2
@RaisesCom2 2 года назад
Are agencies better than masterminds ? :)
@BrianMoncada
@BrianMoncada 2 года назад
@@RaisesCom2 i prefer both :)
@MitchWilderOfficial
@MitchWilderOfficial 2 года назад
Excited to learn from you in Wetube!
@silver_ugoh6425
@silver_ugoh6425 2 года назад
I agree
@zephyrkhambatta
@zephyrkhambatta 2 года назад
Ahh... I see the worldwide spiritual awakening is going well with you Sam! I've said this to friends since day 1, which is, "Sam's packaging spiritual truths for the every day person via this consulting thing, and I'm not sure even he knows it." Amazing bro.
@MomentumMarketingTips
@MomentumMarketingTips 2 года назад
Oh he knows it… you’re one of the fews that recognizes it is all. Your awareness is high..
@DinosaurDubstep
@DinosaurDubstep 2 года назад
huh?
@Matt-Travis
@Matt-Travis 2 года назад
@@MomentumMarketingTips Yeah I also have seen it, lots of occult/esoteric referencing.. super interesting
@privateequityguy
@privateequityguy 2 года назад
I’ve PAID over a 25k to learn these concepts years ago..you guys are getting this as a Blessing…I only HOPE you guys realize the VALUE…but most won’t
@mrwallstreet1
@mrwallstreet1 2 года назад
Respectfully I disagree. I don't think it's the end of the era for courses And I believe everything that you taught in the accelerator and the upleve is still valid. The information that I gave on sales is legendary. I understand it's time for a new direction but you can't negate the information that you taught previously. The information you had in the course is earlier are Like The Bible as it relates to consulting. I understand you have to evolve and I get that I really do however the stuff you taught earlier I'm still making tons of money with it. I guess I drunk the cool aid with the 1st 2 courses . Lol I love you Sam Ovens you are the best 👌
@cinematicdrone9945
@cinematicdrone9945 2 года назад
100% agree with this. His Accelerator course is what landed me my first paying client. It was and continues to be a grind but the fundamentals I learned got me more revenue than anything else I tried in almost 4 years. Now that client wants more work, and the second client is in sight. His Up-Level course is not something I'm able to execute yet until I have a truly refined and teachable method, but that will be a product of mastering Accelerator/managing lots of DFY work for clients. No student is going to buy my course if I don't have a proven history of success, and no one is going to join my mastermind unless I have successful students. It all starts with accelerator. But yeah, I get it. He lays it out in his own course. You need to present a 'new' method to your market, a shift in the paradigm, and that is what he is doing. The 'old' way is always dead, and the 'new' way is always what you're missing. No matter what, I give a lot of credit to Sam for the success I'm having now. I tried so many different things, selling on Amazon, affiliate, dropshipping...his course opened my eyes to other ways I can provide value, and exactly how to find and close paying clients. THANK YOU SAM. All I need to do is keep following the course and I will get to my goals!
@bene100degrees
@bene100degrees 2 года назад
I still love consulting accelerator, this product is legendary. Happy to see what’s coming.
@corneliusmenges
@corneliusmenges 2 года назад
CA ist und bleibt GOAT
@Molloy1951
@Molloy1951 Год назад
Agreed! It was. Is there a way to get access to it nowadays? @jannik100
@valentinasamaniego
@valentinasamaniego 2 года назад
I love it Sam! Can you please make a video here in RU-vid about what is a mastermind according to you, and what must includes regards to structure, rules and dynamics to be Great? Thanks!
@feliciaboka
@feliciaboka 2 года назад
Great question. I am looking forward to seeing an answer.
@anabellingleton
@anabellingleton 8 месяцев назад
This is GENIUS. This takes my coaching program to a whole new level. I can charge more, create big application and big results. I’m totally implementing this.
@davecirlclux
@davecirlclux 2 года назад
No offense Sam. But all your new videos are just ads
@richardparker123
@richardparker123 Год назад
Always have been 👨‍🚀
@Kursersteller
@Kursersteller 2 года назад
Very interesting insights! In the b2b space you're in with a lot of complex problems the mastermind is a more flexible business model than the courses. In other industries though I think the course model is still valid and even better than the mastermind. For example simple software training or a cooking class. The recurring revenue and the urgency to act on a mastermind is really great though.
@JoAnnCorley
@JoAnnCorley 2 года назад
I've been doing this for quite some time with clients.. in the context of 90 day development cycles ... yes much better results because there's action and accountability on a tight, cyclical basis which aligns with human behavior science.
@HectorSaulify
@HectorSaulify 2 года назад
Wait... Sam is saying that masterminds are better than courses, right? But Wetube sounds more like a 6 week course...... With 10 months of Q&A meetings!! Which is actually what Uplevel is... But AT A HIGHER PRICE. Nice way to charge more for your courses.
@alessandrod.n.3893
@alessandrod.n.3893 2 года назад
I paid the application fee, 0 news from you guys today... Still waiting
@MurtazaBadri
@MurtazaBadri 2 года назад
I am a Uplevel Program student and we are currently planning a mastermind yearly program .... my question is since the Uplevel program was a hybrid model... why not update that rather create a another new program... what happens to the already students ? are you discontinuing the Uplevel program?
@Gustens
@Gustens 2 года назад
I was thinking about this as well, I'm in Uplevel
@TC-yx1qt
@TC-yx1qt 2 года назад
Is he still doing weekly Q+A calls for past Uplevel customers?
@rebekahsteeper
@rebekahsteeper 2 года назад
Wow. I love it. Looks fantastic Sam.
@MatthewOnlinee
@MatthewOnlinee 2 года назад
So Sam made a video a few weeks ago about how much he loves the COURSE world, and he’s going to start a podcast with COURSE creators. Then says in his email newsletter that COURSES are dead and MASTERMINDS are the future? Very clear contradiction
@reejanshrestha5379
@reejanshrestha5379 2 года назад
He loves the consulting model, and courses was a vehicle. He found a better vehicle i.e. masterminds.
@MatthewOnlinee
@MatthewOnlinee 2 года назад
@@reejanshrestha5379 still doesn't address why he'd start a podcast about courses if he calls them "dead"
@reejanshrestha5379
@reejanshrestha5379 2 года назад
@@MatthewOnlinee it's a podcast about the consulting model, courses are a subsection of the model. many of the people doing courses will soon transition into the mastermind model. get it? he's not being literal when he says its "dead" he just means there's a better way of doing it
@MatthewOnlinee
@MatthewOnlinee 2 года назад
@@reejanshrestha5379 understand your point, but respectfully disagree. I think he is being literal
@TC-yx1qt
@TC-yx1qt 2 года назад
@@reejanshrestha5379 It's the exact same thing just different name
@charitybrown8533
@charitybrown8533 2 года назад
Yess Sam this is the new wave for sure ! and you are always ahead of the curve ! Love it !!
@gallici-anima-christiana
@gallici-anima-christiana 2 года назад
Was wondering what you were becoming. Love the new look, you really did it, let your hair grow. Mine are becoming pretting long themselves. With a bit more length you're going to look baddass. Anyways, just an old student of yours, used to attend every weekly Q&A, kinda sad it stopped, that's what helped the most. But I hope that you're feeling good and doing good, best day to you.
@charliemofficial
@charliemofficial 2 года назад
applied, can't wait to be part of Wetube :)
@TC-yx1qt
@TC-yx1qt 2 года назад
How's wetube? Does he suggest you have a $99 application fee to have people be able to book calls or is that just what Sam does?
@MotionGrey
@MotionGrey 2 года назад
It's funny how we got away from a school model, and it feels like you're slowly returning to a model close to a "school" with a collabration from members and a "master deliverer". Feels like a "Scandinavian" school model, but online.
@HectorSaulify
@HectorSaulify 2 года назад
Was this part of your annual plan, Sam? I didn't see it there at the beginning, and No courses, no YT content, and now a Joe Rogan podcast and a RU-vid mastermind? I've been a HUGE fan of yours for the principles you've taught... But strangely enough, now you seem to have deviated from what made you successful, Focus.
@traphall
@traphall 2 года назад
I agree, Guess he wants to be more entertaining
@DPMusicStudio
@DPMusicStudio Год назад
If you paid attention to the video he released in January of 2022... this was exactly on his annual plan. And, if you took Accelerator (I did)... he straight up says in there: "WHEN THE FACTS CHANGE, I CHANGE MY MIND" He clearly said in 2022 that he was changing things because he saw the facts of the industry changing.
@balischannel2502
@balischannel2502 2 года назад
Genius! This is going to revolutionize the industry!
@Lordcoog
@Lordcoog 2 года назад
I love this approach Sam
@greatmindsunlimited
@greatmindsunlimited Год назад
Different people love different vibes and ways of learning. I love online courses because I absorb more when it's self-directed study. I love it better than a mastermind; however, I love the magic of discussion that sparks new ideas. I am an ambivert so my introversion loves self-study. My extroversion loves community but if I had to make one high ticket purchase, its an online course.
@SlayNetwork
@SlayNetwork 2 года назад
Demand should always exceed supply indeed
@andrewhunzicker1257
@andrewhunzicker1257 2 года назад
I applied and I haven't heard back yet. One of my programs is actually moving into a franchise this year (even a step above mastermind as we get part of our students business forever/ basically partner with them)
@laido
@laido Год назад
Hi! Could you tell me more about partnering with your students? I currently have a coaching business. Thanks
@jdb1135
@jdb1135 2 года назад
Big change from the erstwhile model. Looking forward!!
@TheFredrikBakkee
@TheFredrikBakkee 2 года назад
I started online by selling a low tier membership. Been thinking for a while now to expand with a premium service with more interaction
@utahdesertwinds
@utahdesertwinds 2 года назад
Just wondering how that is supposed to make us that bought your coarse the last time you sold it? That was a lot of money. Are you saying it's just a waste of my time?
@ThallysCardoso
@ThallysCardoso 2 года назад
If you think that you don’t did his course the right way
@producerdevelopment
@producerdevelopment 2 года назад
Have you made any money using the course?
@mrwallstreet1
@mrwallstreet1 2 года назад
Good point. I'm making money using the information from the 1st 2 courses and it's going great. I don't get what hes talking about when he says the content area is over that's nonsense and that's contrary to what he said when he sold us the 1st 2 courses in the 1st place lol
@AshishBaruiShorts
@AshishBaruiShorts 2 года назад
@@mrwallstreet1 That will be at least valid for the next 5 years.
@MikeBarron1
@MikeBarron1 Год назад
Agree! 🚀🚀
@RealKnowledgeClub
@RealKnowledgeClub 2 года назад
That’s super amazing Sam ❤️
@andrei.antoniu
@andrei.antoniu 2 года назад
So is this just a 10k/year course disguised as a mastermind? No meetings? Just an online community?
@KlaasVictor
@KlaasVictor 2 года назад
Hey I remember you! I took your identity shift course. Really good!! Oh yes, Sam is increasing the price of information. More expensive, packaged differently. But that's a good thing for coaches!
@MadhuKodidala
@MadhuKodidala 2 года назад
Yes Sam, Always People will impact most than anything...
@BernardoFagot
@BernardoFagot 2 года назад
I just read Wet Tube 😅 My brain needs some cleaning.
@truthimagination2997
@truthimagination2997 2 года назад
Just an observation... Wetube sort of reads like "wet-tube".. U should probably use a capital 't' ...
@rachelguo6069
@rachelguo6069 2 года назад
Hey Sam, I booked a call and paid the fee to do the application call last week, I haven't still heard back from your team on scheduling the call, can someone from your team provide an update? Ty!
@yechiels
@yechiels 2 года назад
In consulting accelerator you said courses are much more scalable i don’t understand
@BrianMoorehead
@BrianMoorehead 2 года назад
Is it not possible to grow and change your opinion through experience?
@Copypastedates
@Copypastedates 2 года назад
Is wetube the next step from accelerator? Or is uplevel the next step did I miss something
@yechiels
@yechiels 2 года назад
@@BrianMoorehead true
@escalado626
@escalado626 2 года назад
@@Copypastedates I think it's more like an Uplevel 3.0. It makes the way of working and the value higher.
@policarpiodigital4729
@policarpiodigital4729 2 года назад
"When the facts change, I change my mind."
@jaiv
@jaiv Год назад
what happened to the wetube website?
@speakeuropeanportuguese
@speakeuropeanportuguese 2 года назад
So it is basically a workshop? I started doing language workshops before COVID and it went so well. I hope to improve them.
@PaulaSchmitz
@PaulaSchmitz 2 года назад
This is brilliant, but as an e-learning developer of many years, I feel that you have just killed me :)
@TheBigBidder
@TheBigBidder 2 года назад
Sounds weird to me, so you cap it at 60 members that means the max you can make from this model is 588k even tho there’s more demand…most normal people will not fork out $9800 for a glorified facebook community unless you’re already famous like sam ovens. you can make way more by charging less and letting more in. The other thing is what exactly is different or soecial about a “mastermind” basically it just sounds like a glorified facebook group with some brief course supplementation. Focus should be selling an outcome medium is secondary.
@JakeJordan
@JakeJordan 2 года назад
Some good thoughts here @thebigbidder - How to sell a 10K spot in a specialized FB group, when you are NOT Sam Ovens is really the key here. Many of us already do workshops, mastermind groups or something more passive. Scale is always the challenge.
@creatingdigitalassets
@creatingdigitalassets 2 года назад
Love this! I have friends in Quantum
@fzcuzed1379
@fzcuzed1379 2 года назад
Crazy stuff! Let’s go! Would love to get on YT soon
@iamyakky
@iamyakky 2 года назад
What will happen to consulting accelerator moving forward?
@TC-yx1qt
@TC-yx1qt 2 года назад
Is he still doing weekly Q+A calls for past Accelerator customers?
@stotraanubhav
@stotraanubhav 2 года назад
First! And big fan
@mimilyon8610
@mimilyon8610 2 года назад
What makes you Sam Ovens is the Consulting Accelerator. So courses > mastermind lol.
@ThallysCardoso
@ThallysCardoso 2 года назад
Consulting don’t even teach how to make a course, he teach how to do consulting.. a course he teach on up level
@ennio7105
@ennio7105 2 года назад
Sam can u bring back your posts of instagram, these have soo much value
@katielowen
@katielowen 2 года назад
“It’s like RedTube but We” 😌🙏
@jeffreyrrose
@jeffreyrrose 2 года назад
Sam, Did you fill that Executive Assistant position?
@theroyalanwartranscendenta13
@theroyalanwartranscendenta13 2 года назад
Good one master
@georgew1857
@georgew1857 2 года назад
Sam Ovens is such a grifter it is actually funny to watch. Imagine taking this guy seriously. He makes money selling courses to other grifters teaching them how to grift.
@HectorSaulify
@HectorSaulify 2 года назад
It does look that way now, but if you've been following him for a while you'll notice that something has changed... He's not how he used to be. It's like if all this focus and hard work brought him to a level of success where he wasn't happy anymore and said: F*k that, I'm just going to do what I want.
@georgew1857
@georgew1857 2 года назад
@@HectorSaulify nah he's always been a grifter. The problem with grifters is they usually say some obvious stuff that is helpful so that the lower IQ folk think they are great, but they actually are just scamming people with expensive courses with nothing not obvious.
@HectorSaulify
@HectorSaulify 2 года назад
@@georgew1857 Anyone who follows Sam ovens for a while knows this isn't true man... There are a lot of those out there, but Sam isn't one of them. I've watched every single one of his videos. Low IQ?? 😅... Those people are following the Kardashians, or other IG influencers. Look at this guy, there's literally nothing to take from him other than his principles. No fancy life, no fancy clothes, none of the crap the Low IQ people actually want from someone! Plus, anyone who's bought his stuff can tell it's really good.
@georgew1857
@georgew1857 2 года назад
@@HectorSaulify what are you talking about. Sam Ovens sells over priced courses to people promising to make them rich. Just because he looks autistic and says generic business principles that anyone who has ever had any moderate success knows doesn't mean he isn't a grifter
@bitcoinpaul
@bitcoinpaul 2 года назад
I take it its $816 per month? (is it a monthly fee or all upront?)
@theinfamousjoel4551
@theinfamousjoel4551 2 года назад
I was thinking the same
@Coolvideos36
@Coolvideos36 2 года назад
I'm confused as to how this isn't a pyramid scheme
@antoniodesimone4689
@antoniodesimone4689 2 года назад
it's probably is
@yechiels
@yechiels 2 года назад
He's ghosting us again...
@AshishBaruiShorts
@AshishBaruiShorts 2 года назад
lol he has more attitude than my ex
@Qorbanie
@Qorbanie 2 года назад
Just signed up to the application! Keen
@Johnnynitafan
@Johnnynitafan 8 месяцев назад
where can i buy this
@Johnnynitafan
@Johnnynitafan 8 месяцев назад
where is this ?
@bruceb85
@bruceb85 2 года назад
of course the dock is optimized down to only 5 icons
@AymanAlSayed68
@AymanAlSayed68 2 года назад
Did Sam stop selling the Consulting Course? I am looking for the link
@traphall
@traphall 2 года назад
Yeah he stopped selling
@antoniodesimone4689
@antoniodesimone4689 2 года назад
I can sell you mine for 500$, I will give you my lifetime access, and you can change the email and everything and you will be the only one using it.
@AymanAlSayed68
@AymanAlSayed68 2 года назад
@@antoniodesimone4689 How can we connect?
@antoniodesimone4689
@antoniodesimone4689 2 года назад
@@AymanAlSayed68 I don't know I am trying to text a contact here but my comments disappear, you can give me your contact and I will reach you
@antoniodesimone4689
@antoniodesimone4689 2 года назад
@@AymanAlSayed68 hey Ayman are you still interested?
@OliChe
@OliChe 2 года назад
So who's applied / been accepted ?
@CoconutPete
@CoconutPete 2 года назад
One random commenter will get access to Wetube beta for free. Doesn't hurt to ask, right? 😁
@sarisulo6963
@sarisulo6963 2 года назад
F in the chat for clint
@AshishBaruiShorts
@AshishBaruiShorts 2 года назад
F - Lol
@priyaramakrishnan7829
@priyaramakrishnan7829 2 года назад
Can I enroll for beta now
@CarlosZavala-eb5us
@CarlosZavala-eb5us 2 года назад
You mentioned RU-vid, How about instagram and TikTok?
@stevereinns
@stevereinns 2 года назад
Second here. Always have my notification bell on.
@alessandrod.n.3893
@alessandrod.n.3893 2 года назад
So you didn't listen to Sam Ovens lol
@onewillprice
@onewillprice 2 года назад
Looks like the easy money has dried up.
@bitcoinpaul
@bitcoinpaul 2 года назад
Whats happened to Sam?
@maxdrvn
@maxdrvn 2 года назад
what always happens to him. they're unreliable
@ottodia_
@ottodia_ 2 года назад
Sam, you should start a twitter account
@TheLambo123254
@TheLambo123254 2 года назад
cool
@amymetcalf
@amymetcalf 2 года назад
How much is the Beta course?
@Sascha.Hauser
@Sascha.Hauser 2 года назад
Hint: watch the Video!
@ThallysCardoso
@ThallysCardoso 2 года назад
9800/year
@igelbackereiholste1946
@igelbackereiholste1946 2 года назад
sounds like a course🤣
@AshishBaruiShorts
@AshishBaruiShorts 2 года назад
Course+Community, Smart way of packaging. I will also buy this soon.
@AlanValdez
@AlanValdez 2 года назад
Exactly
@comoganhardinheiroonline8233
@comoganhardinheiroonline8233 2 года назад
I'm a simple man. When Sam Ovens opens his mouth, I LISTEN! 👍
@bastianrivero
@bastianrivero 2 года назад
Bro disappeared again 🤪😜😜
@marketernabbo
@marketernabbo 2 года назад
Just tell me the truth, you are God right?
@bravemiyako
@bravemiyako 2 года назад
wow long hair....
@greencoolmoss
@greencoolmoss 2 года назад
Sam is deluded and makes money from 'teaching people how to make money'
@d.s1334
@d.s1334 2 года назад
Tuje dhandha nahi ata ashneer grover ki tarah. Chomu banata hai tu logo ko
@povilasbrilius
@povilasbrilius 2 года назад
Poor and sick of the high school #MS word style #documents 😁🆗🥵😩
@awh4272
@awh4272 2 года назад
No one forces you to watch. If you get more value elsewhere for free, pls go there. It's amazing, you get all this value for free and some nitpicker feels like they have the right to complain about the method used for delivery. Life is too good right now, people need to recheck themselves.
@samovenstv
@samovenstv 2 года назад
Sorry dude, I'm too busy building stuff to take the time to produce high quality videos. I'm optimizing for building my business, not becoming RU-vid famous.
@JoAnnCorley
@JoAnnCorley 2 года назад
looks like most corporate docs I see on a daily 🤷🏽‍♀️
@PaulGerardMotivation
@PaulGerardMotivation 2 года назад
@@samovenstv trying to sign up but my card won’t verify, I’m in accelerator already and it’s been game changing. Is there a way to hold my place until tomorrow as I feel this is a huge opportunity to be part of the 60
@escalado626
@escalado626 2 года назад
I prefer the quality of the information rather than fancy videos but without value.
@thesoundofaccrapodcast
@thesoundofaccrapodcast 2 года назад
Sam what's your thoughts on LinkedIn organic? I'm getting a ton of traffic from that
@marketing_coach
@marketing_coach 2 года назад
It’s sick, I make good money from LinkedIn! Mainly because it’s super easy to target your niche
@escalado626
@escalado626 2 года назад
If it works for you keep doing it!
@mrwallstreet1
@mrwallstreet1 2 года назад
As I'm listening to his presentation I agree, However for him to say that the time of content and as other courses are not relevant it's totally wrong. I would say that this is a next level however you can't negate the value is 8 the value of his last 2 courses
@intelligentbodymassage.com7472
@intelligentbodymassage.com7472 2 года назад
hi so where is this beta group? ty
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