Believe me, I know. Even the host there interviewing and his Ghetto Mafia Clique was my down South "big brother." "We stole big boi's car and all the jewelry.....; And you didn't sell out, crunk up the jury, I 💲paid your way out, gave you the fury." Extremely little bro, Finesse2Tymez....😉
It wasn't just the WestCoast. Organizations (not gangs) in the MidWest and South also was in Hip-Hop (i.e. BGDs (GDs & BDs), VLs [4CH], BPS, LKs, Down By Law, Diablos, Miami Boys, etc), was involved in the history of Hip-Hop, including the Decepticons in Brooklyn, New York and the Supreme Team in Jamaica Queens, New York.
@@unknownunknown9296 Special Ed already knew about the Decepticons (in Brooklyn's Flatbush, East Flatbush and Bed-Stuy) and South Jamaica Queens' Supreme Team lol. He tried to deflect all the negativity in Hip-Hop to the WestCoast. A lot of other New York Rappers hating on the WestCoast and the South, back in the 1990s.
@@GriffinPoole HOLD UP BRUH. MAYBE YOU NEED TO READ WHAT I PUT AT THE TOP OF THIS DISCUSSION!!!! I SAID....SPECIAL ED IS GOING IN ON NWA ABOUT SOMETHING THAT AS ALREADY EXSISTED WAY BEFORE WHEN NWA EVEN PICKED UP A MIC!!!!!
My cuzn from New York and he told me about a crew called the butt naked crew…..when I heard that I laughed so hard. But he said they would rob you and make you strip naked
Tribalism is a way of life survival for the fittest is real your always outnumbered fear not that's how you lose yourself this is coming from a SOLO. OG at 52 ❤
3:10-3:30 The first Bloods & Crips movie was “The George McKenna Story” HARD LESSONS before Colors. Washington High everyone attended there. Even Raymond Washington,Stanley Tookie Williams,OG Cutes I mean everyone but not all at the same time but damn near not far behind. This movie mentions other gangs from the Crips & Bloods all attended there at war. Now you did have T. Rogers in the movie Colors and other real Gang Members as well. But I’m just clarifying it wasn’t the first Bloods & Crips movie.
EXACTLY 💯. LET ME ASK THIS AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR SPECIAL ED AS WELL. HOW CAN A GROUP LIKE NWA BRING SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY EXSISTING, AS WELL AS A VIOLENT PROBLEM TO OUR CULTURE?
Honestly it was the movies and music coming out of the west coast as far as 80s and 90s go. In the 2000s and beyond the Internet and social media is also a factor.
Free game Ice T Killers, 6 in the morning, Toddy Tee, Batteram, and Mix Master Spade tracks are earlier than Colors, but I get he is saying it introduced it to the world. (The Batteram would come out later with a different beat)
I guess having an album called "music to driveby" was just the icing on the cake smdh. This dude continuously moves the goal post. It's a trash culture. Yall fell for the banana and the tailpipe homie
Nah goofy 😢 we in Cleveland was banging on the eighties smh.....Cali put it on wax ...we had and still have Crips, Bloods, Gd'$, Bd'$, Blackstones, Latin Disciples, all in the city and most of us all get along smh ......we was banging way before Cali rap goofy
We don't even really recognize or adhere to the top people in those gangs .... We in Cleveland straight hood, raw my guy.... We may belong to certain organizations but no organization is running or controlling Cleveland....come try and find out the HARD WAY!
@@terrellgaither8699 na im right bangin on wax was the first album crips n bloods was claiming sets and reppin rags....when 8 came out in 90...he did no such of a thing 😄
Choke No Joke Choke No Joke Choke No Joke lol - I already know who made that comment about the gangs in Hip Hop from California - Choke No Joke Choke No Joke Choke No Joke
Gang banging was always going on it just wasn’t the politics of LA Crips/Bloods it’s was more of local gangs of blocks and hoods/clicks it wasn’t rag/color banging! Crips and Bloods it’s more a universal gang bang thing originated in LA
No lie 8 kinda got a point. I never even heard 8 say “Cuz” before let alone his gang. A lot of dudes barely or rarely mentioned their gangs wit the exception of snoop n his crew back then. People just took to what they wanted to and was lookin for sumthn to be like. Even Quik first couple albums barely mentioned any gang shyt. Nwa wasn’t in a gang and never mentioned it. Yet they all get blamed for bringin gang culture to rap…..
Quik had Loked Out Hood on his first album but he always denied his affiliation even though they said at all his shows he was wearing red and throwing up gang signs.There's a video on RU-vid he was wearing Chicago Bulls shit wearing his hat backwards and flashing blood signs to the crowd
@@RU-vid_Street_Drifter yea but still his music was barely bangin. Quik music was always about partying… people take one little piece of sumthn and run with it…. Nigga made 900 party anthems and people only highlight the few songs he actually banged on lol the fans are just not that smart if we being honest… La dudes was livin they truth they wasn’t tryna influence the world. The world took the movies music And mixed it all up and ran with it.. thats not them niggas fault
The Deceptz and Lo Life’s were gangs represented in late 80s/early 90s NY rap. Onyx and Duck Down records. As far as the Midwest, Common first went by Common Sense and claimed 4 Corner Hustlers on his early work (Can I Borrow A Dollar). Crucial Conflict claimed UVL. Universal Love was a song on their first work. Twista and others banged but it was more coded. Most Midwest gangs are present in the south. Gangs been representing in hip hop since the 80s if you read between the lines but the west coast was most overt with it.
Stop the BS yall did bring it in. Own up to it even if it was what was going on. The lables promoted that and most did it. Yes it did corrupt hip hop to a degree. I respect 8 but the country immulated the style of dress along with the slang other cities bit followed suit. You have brothers in WV talking about they are crips and bloods. Straight Up Menace was a great record but take some accountability.
People keep saying that New York didn't have gangs that was the whole purpose for hip hop to get rid of the gangs to stop the violence so we don't remember Beat Street and the movie that Fab 5 Freddy was on it's been gangs since probably the beginning of time the Warriors I think the miseducation of Sonny Carson or something like that
The biggest issue with LA gang culture is that it drove another wedge through black ppl that were into hip hop. Straight up division. Just because it's considered blue versus red, doesn't mean it isn't black versus black. From what I heard,Mexican gang culture is dominant in LA which if true makes this all twice as bad
@@mansamusa9465 Remember when Southsiders were scared of them when numbers were different? Probably not. Why do you think they teamed up with whiteboys dummy? LA dudes had your city on lock 9x outta 10 or at the least brought the game to it.😂
Quik was the first and snoop will tell u that wasn’t no mainstream rapper from the west claiming their set .: Quik made the red tape then loked out hood … the he recapped and spokes on it with jus lyke Compton
The word “gang” have a negative stigma, we are a ppl with a different culture but no different, hiphop started as an outlet and alternative for the gangs in The Bronx, never forget we are tribal by default, listen to Just ice ( going way back ) , Schooly D and Freddy Fox, they banging their hood. We are a nation like The Black Spades ( Bambada was their leader) let stop throwing shade on Crip culture they are not just some murderous Villian was talking about Black Fraternities ok, black superhero when driven by the right purpose I promise 💪🏾🫡
Many listeners of rap love to be lied to apparently. All they want to hear is ishh about money rolls, high-end brands of clothing, costly vehicles, mansions. NOT reality which is about many single-parent homes, poverty, street violence, rac1sm, alcoholism & drugs.
I hen I first heard WC music I took as hell they going through the same thing we going through down south…just with different type of slang…but it’s the same s***
Lets not sit here and act like after the success of NWA record labels didn't start running out and signing MAINLY Gangsta Rappers. Once NWA took off every record label wanted a Gangsta rapper or Gangsta rap group on their roster. And once Gangsta Rap began to totally outsell all other genres of Hiphop, most record labels started signing ONLY Gangsta rappers. Through Gangsta Rap, mainly Westcoast Gangsta Rap, gangbanging entered the game. Lets not sit here and act like thats not true. THATS what Special Ed meant. And yes, folks will try and mention Schooly D's PSK or BDP's Criminal Minded. But the fact is THOSE artists didn't make the industry start running out and signing nothing but Gangsta Rappers. NWA DID.
Special Ed is a hypocrite. Name of Boogie Down productions first album was " Criminal Minded" Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Nas, AZ, Jay-Z, Biggie, Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek, Mobb Deep, The Lox, Dipset, Fat Joe, & Big Pun and many more on the East Coast rapped about the criminal life. For Special Ed just to single out the West Coast was complete BS.
No they didn't because they actually rappers that don't represent the gang lifestyle period that was a counteract to gangster rap so that's definitely false
Eiht is my dude but I have to disagree, I'm around his age, but growing up in North Long Beach, me and my friends didn't want to be gang bangers. we wanted to be drug dealers, those dudes were fly riding around in nissan trucks and el caminos 1:56
