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@t0tobi Год назад

What a fantastic time for FPV, that we have this small thing transmitting HD and even recording. Awesome.

@DeimosTV Год назад

Wow, it´s the best Room Tour I ever saw! Thank you :D:D:D

@LittleMissRollerCoaster Год назад

12:22 omg, it looks so good on a LED track with low light condition! 🤩🤩🤩

@MCsCreations Год назад

Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃 Pretty fun little quad! And they really improved this system's image! 😯 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@shockruk Год назад

Thanks Nick, I was hoping you'd do a review of this as I was gonna get this as my next walksnail quad.

@SkyPilotFPV Год назад

Just what I was looking for Nick. Cheers mate!!

@aidanmelendez7201 Год назад

After watching you for the past year I finally decided to get my first drone!! So excited to get in the air!!

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Oh great. Spend some time on a simulator to get comfortable with how the sticks control the quad. When you fly for the first time for real give yourself plenty of space, the first flights can be very unnerving as we are now flying something that can be damaged and we spent money on it. Slow and steady, enjoy the flights, even the most modest of flights, it takes time to get comfortable and feel as though we are in control....even after 6 years I still crash. Crashing experiences are valuable as well. We learn how to make the crash less dramatic as we can foresee we are going to crash.

@aidanmelendez7201 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yes! I have been practicing every day for a few hours in a simulator. and will continue to do so till the drone arrives! I will also record my first flight when it does!

@johncarold Год назад

Hi Nick Great video and review of the BetaFPV Meteor75HD, I have a blast flying micros and the 75mm is the best for outside, I do like the new canopy. Thanks for the video and information.

@mattalford3932 7 месяцев назад

The fish eye effect is really noticeable.

@mmgus Год назад

i always like the way u review drone, cut to the chase, longer flight footage, cool 👍

@farside87 Год назад

Thanks for the review.

@MickRatanapanyo Год назад

This is a fun flying truck, glad I didn't go for this. Thanks Nick 😀

@90dubie Год назад

Good review. Would love to have this drone. Been waiting for this video. To me I like that some company's are making drone in HD drone. Starting out on analog and now I'm really pushing more into HD. Like I said would love to have this added to my collection. Thanks for the video

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

I'll bet you can build a similar whoop as this - with this new Walksnail 1S board, and it could weigh less than 30 grams! Yup, that's a WHOLE 10g, or 25% of what this BetaFPV whoop weighs. BetaFPV always screws up when making a product! We can build it better! A whole lot better!

@jackhiggins574 Год назад

WOW looks great and great review

@maikwerner7325 Год назад

Nice review, it is cool to see how far tiny whoops developed. From back in the day with brushed motors and glued on bad looking analog 25mW setup to now a very good flying HD with OSD and onboard storage. Maybe the next big step is way better batteries (solid state)? Or what else needs "big" improvements?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Battery is something we have hoped to see developments for years. I suspect one barrier is cost, we tend to damage batteries and replacing more often at a higher cost due to more performance might not be fpv viable

@sticky_ricebowl Год назад

I just want to say that I grew up watching your vids. I have been watching them even before Zero3 and brushed drones. Feels so weird to come back after a while and see alot of changes... but as long as you and your family is doing well, then I guess those were good changes.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Thank you. Yes, we are all doing well. Our oldest is getting ready for college. He was 12 when i started making videos. The time has certainly flown by.

@sticky_ricebowl Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV we're around the same age then that's pretty cool. time sure does fly quickly

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@sticky_ricebowl I am 52. Went to senior night tonight, it was interesting talking to other parents

@waldyventura435 Год назад

What are the odds mine will be here today, was waiting on your video to come out on this, also side note I believe they switched the spi receiver to a uart so they were able to be updated to the new elrs, also I got mine from getfpv ELRS is in stock the tbs version not just yet

@nikfpv3456 Год назад

I hope there will be a walksnail board that is actually light enough for a tiny whoop, like HD Zero. Seems like we're not quite there yet.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I haven't directly compared the two but thought I saw an image of about 2 gram difference. Lower the weight the more viable it will be.

@HaggalaisFPV Год назад

Always enjoy how much info you pack into your videos. I recently wanted to share my experience with others but analog whoop video and cheap goggles don't have the best presentation any recommendations ? Or advice for attempting to make content.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I suggest making a video you would want to see. Sure it will be different after a while, but if you don't enjoy it others aren't likely to. I find with analog video to present it via youtube I resize the video to look more closely to what I see in the goggles, so I don't stretch it out to cover 16:9, I use a background and the dvr file over the top. Video rendering makes a difference as well. We either have to learn the settings to use with the program of choice, or use something like Adobe premier which does a nice job without tweaking much.

@HaggalaisFPV Год назад

Biggest problem I'm having at the moment is dvr rolling and flickering I only have the transporter 2 goggles from the rtf kit from emax and new goggles are expensive. I know if I got a drone with the built in dvr I could bypass the problem .but i dont want to sacrifice the way i fly. I also don't know if a peanut cam would even fit /fly on a tinyhawk 3

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@HaggalaisFPV The peanut would also add weight and likely temper the flight as well. Might try different channels like R8 to see if the video is better. R8 is up above wifi signal frequency.

@HaggalaisFPV Год назад

I already use r8 for my preferred channel

@mattalford3932 7 месяцев назад

We need onboard recording for tiny whoops. Micro sd cards are small enough to fit.

@ericevans1117 Год назад

The new BetaFPV ELRS 1S board has a serial ELRS receiver (as you mentioned) NOT an SPI receiver (as the old version did). It can be updated over WiFi, and does not require flashing a new version of betaflight to update ELRS.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

But, is that the board that BetaFPV used to make this whoop?

@ericevans1117 Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 The store page lists it as the "serial ELRS" board. It should be the new version not the old "SPI ELRS" board.

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

That was excellent

@doccock100 Год назад

which of the footage was off the board rather than goggle dvr? I always enjoy the goggle dvr on your videos as it gives me an idea of what I will actually see

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

All was off the board.

@tomsop Год назад

I wish the VTX also could run 2-3S - I either go with Walksnail to get HD video in a 2.5 inch quad or go with HDZero with the whoop lite yet it is only 200mw max. Walksnail is 350 mw. Given this is the state of things for microquads, Nick, would you recommend going with HDZero or Walksnail for microquad builders?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

We can run the walksnail off of a 5v pad off the flight controller. I build one this way. As to which way to go, if the highest priority is image quality then we go walksnail, if flying fast is the priority we go hdzero, the lower consisten latency does make a difference, especially when flying inside. The one I built is 2s and I can certainly notice the variable latency. If it was consistent and higher than hdzero it could be something we adjust to, but with it changing and inside flight having less tolerance for error I feel I crash much more often. If range is a higher priority than latency then we go walksnail. Hope it helps.

@art_by_bastico8958 Год назад

Just got it some weeks now. Its ok to cruising flights in inv. where bigger quads would bring lot more stress.. guerillawhooping xD. Took it to a shopping center and gyroflowed the vtx video. With some patience I got the esc flashed to bluejay and 96khz - get about 3:30 min on an 450mah bt20. Without I got normaly 2:30-2:45min. It's OK for cruising. FYI i also thought about soldering some bt20s on old ph2-lipos but.. they don't fit in the Meteor75 frame. :/

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

ph2.0 to bt20 does make the ph2.0 batteries compatible, but the voltage sag of ph2.0 will be something to deal with

@art_by_bastico8958 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV ?maybe I didn't found the right words. I meant If soldered a an bt2.0 on an lipo (cutted of the ph2) its just an lipo with bt2.0.. But the flywoo lipos dont fit in the frame.. thats why I didn't soldered them and just useing the original betafpb 450mah bt2.0

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@art_by_bastico8958 ah I see what your saying better now.

@kloog7957 Год назад

Do you plan on reviewing the new beta fpv Cetus x kit?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I don't. At the time they asked about it I was getting ready for vacation.

@RyanQuellet Год назад

Interesting offering. Dvr footage is not from goggles, right? I know they could have made it lighter - 40g for 1s is too high. Thanks for the video!

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Correct the footage is from the onboard dvr. Seems between the 1002 motors and canopy is a majority of the weight gain. I made one from the old eachine trashcan frame and 0802 with a crux3 canopy at 37 grams, I set it up to run 2s.

@Azimys_sight 3 месяца назад

How did you achieved 2:50 indoor flight time? I'm only hitting 1,5-2 slow waving. Did you change transmitter power signal?

@NickBurnsFPV 3 месяца назад

Likely batteries are the difference. The comment doesn't indicate what batteries and size are being used and the flight space or flight style.

@Kopterheld Год назад

Yes, Meteor75 HD is a nice Whoop, maybe more Cinewhoop - I make a nice video by the see, really nice camera footage colors from the Walksnail System and you can use GyroFlow with internal blackbox data from the whoop.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

I wish BetaFPV had some other people to consult when they build a new product. Why? Because they ALWAYS screw it up! Every single time! I mean....at least they are consistent, right?! 🙄 This new whoop weighs in at just less that 40g. With an ultralight, 1S only, WalkSnail whoop board - specially designed to make it as light as they possibly can...because it's all about weight with whoops! But they blew it! We all know the DJI digital system has a bummer flaw in the size and weight of the Caddx Vista. Even naked, it weighs about 15+g with nano camera and antenna. So, when I see this just under 40g WalkSnail whoop, my first question was "why is it so damn heavy? A guy from Europe, here on RU-vid, races his 35g 75mm DJI whoop and competes really well with it. WHHAAATTT? How is this BetaFPV WalkSnail whoop, with one tiny board and a tiny camera, weighing a whole 5g more than the much heavier equipped Caddx Vista 75mm whoop? Because BetaFPV blew it, once again! I never buy a product from BetaFPV if it doesn't have a V3 or higher in the back of the model number! They are a BETA releasing company - it's right in their name - they release untested, Beta Products and YOU the customer, debug it, fine tune it, and Beta Test it for their company. FACT. I would think this whoop would be around 5g, maybe a little more, less weight than the DJI 75mm whoop weighing in at 35g. Nope, it's 5g heavier! Why? Because of several reasons...First off, they always use full size canopies that weigh too much! Secondly, and they did this with their older released 75X DJI digital whoop, they use the wrong motors! 1102 motors are the first mistake others make when designing a 75mm whoop! It's the first thing that 35g Vista whoop designer said to me when describing his. It makes the whoop too heavy? What do most ultralight 75mm whoops have in common - they DON'T use a heavy motor like an 1102. They use a much lighter, but still plenty powerful enough 0802. That saves us a ton of weight - AND...That's what whoops are all about! Next, BetaFPV used a circular polarized antenna. We can shave about a gram there too. Dipoles give superb range with DJI or WalkSnail digital. Not owning this, I can't find all of the weight savings measures a person could do if they built this themselves, but I'm sure there are a few more ways to save weight. I'll bet someone good at ultralight building of whoops can build a 75mm WalkSnail whoop that weighs less that 30 grams! I'm sure of it! It'll take some planning, and weighing, but it can be done! If you are in the WalkSnail ecosystem, please do it and report back here or show it to Nick! We need more building from individuals, and less from the "I don't get it" manufacturers! YOU CAN BUILD IT BETTER...! 😎🤘

@xWood4000 Год назад

Do you think 2s tinywhoop batteries last any longer than 1s tinywhoop batteries? The ampereage draw is in theory halved for the same power so the battery should be less stressed

@Wild_FPV Год назад

That's true, but you also add more weight moving to 2s batteries. In reality it depends on a lot of things like the weight, props, motors, specific batteries.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

we do have to "scale" for 2s as well. a good many 1s motors will burn up on 2s full throttle. Weight, prop and motor kv all change the equation of flight performance and flight time. Generally yes with nearly all things about the same 2s increase flight time and performance.

@awsstvawsstv2809 Год назад

Am thinking of getting this drone. But I want to use 600mah 1s. In your opinion would it be possible to just remove/cut those battery holders plastic things and use small Velcro to keep the battery in place?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I would suggest not cliipping the battery tray off but use it to route the velcro strap. If we did cut the battery tray off the space between the motor connectors and what is left of the frame/battery tray is very small/tight. Or if we route the other way the upper battery tray supports are much thinner than the lower portion that might be cut off. But is it an option ...yes.

@awsstvawsstv2809 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick

@DRonArtist Год назад

@@awsstvawsstv2809 For me, I have split the battery holder with Plato to insert 720mah. My flight time around 4:30 to 5:30mins.

@lililililililili8667 Год назад

I love mine the only thing that sucks is if you punch out when you are almost finished with the pack and the voltage hits 3.1 when under load the video black screens and it takes a few seconds to come back on after the voltage bounces back up over 3.1

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

True I failed to mention the voltage limits of the walksnail vtx/cam.

@northerntierfpv8947 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV I noticed the same thing with the mob 6 HDzero, they love power!! Cheers !

@bobg1443 Год назад

For the batteries, can’t you hit the mount briefly with a heat gun and stretch it out a little?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

we could, but we can't go back at that point. Its viable if we have mainly 1 physical size of battery.

@bobg1443 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV True, I actually cut off most of my battery brackets and use a small piece of 3M Dual Lock to hold my batteries in place. Adds minimal weight and all you need is a very small piece. For those 1S batteries, it holds just fine.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@bobg1443 that is a good work around. i used to use dual lock back when we had to rig something to hold our micros. The dual lock is a good hard connection

@wmcewa01 Год назад

It’d be really interesting to see what the gyro is doing during those wobbles.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Yes, I have not spent much time looking at bb. Spent so many years when micros didn't have bb. Seems like its been in the last 2-3 years aio got bb. Is that about right?

@wmcewa01 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yea. A little more common now. That wobble sure looks like my gyro issue which is being caused by electrical noise. The uav tech suggestion is to add a cap to the circuit that has the gyro - usually 3.3volts. It didn't help on mine, but maybe it would here.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@wmcewa01 Its an interesting bit. I wonder if it could be the same even though from battery to battery it may or may not have the wobbles.

@wmcewa01 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yea, so strange that only some batteries do it

@Mr_CrowFPV Год назад

You mentioned there was a way to get past the power output?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

yes there is a "hack" for the walksnail system just like there was for the dji/vista digital fpv

@zsolezk Год назад

Thanks! I did buy this after watching the review. I got it for learning purposes (I am new and my 5 inch is too much for me at this point) and around the house fun. Plenty of power for me for the moment. Has anyone figured out a good betaflight setup for the battery tab? Mine reads way too low with the 450mah batteries that come with it.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

does it display battery low on screen on a fresh charge? Charging batteries to high volt 4.35? increase the max battery voltage in betaflight to 4.4

@zsolezk Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV I will try that 4.4. I did not charge to 4.35. Only 4.2. My voltage only goes to 4.25 max on my charger.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@zsolezk It may still think its over voltage and then think its low. Its a weird thing in betaflight.

@A1ZUDD1N Год назад

Spent 2 days trying to bind it to my Radiomaster Zorro ELRS but failed! Can I just ask how did you bind to yours? I followed all the documentations provided on both BetaFPV & elrs website. Currently my controller is binded via binding phrase to my cinelog35 with no problems, but it just wont bind to the Meteor75...

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Did you flash the receiver to the same version as the radio? If we leave usb plugged in we should get fast flashing led and expresslrs wifi to connect to. And then flash

@A1ZUDD1N Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yes i did both are on 3.0.1. the receiver is flashed to DIY 2400 RX ESP8285 SX1280.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@A1ZUDD1N Try changing the radio mw from 25 to 250, binding each time. Generally I leave mine at 250

@Terry12345 Год назад

I think this little whoop would have been better served if it was 2s capable.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Yes, I am not sure if its the fpv whoop market or manufacturers, but 2s whoops are pretty rare in the bnf arena the last few years.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

Nick, a link for the LED cube you fly around, please. :)

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I believe I have the 27inch version, but mine might also be a touch bigger as it doesn't fit through interior doors assembled. This is the cube webleedfpv.com/collections/whoop-gates-accessories/products/led-tube-cube-by-webleedfpv?variant=40774649610379 but they also have all the parts to build anything we want webleedfpv.com/collections/diy-fpv-whoop-gates-accessories

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV HOLY SHI%! ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN DOLLARS?!!!!! O M G ! That's so much I can't see anyone but people with money trees in their backyard ever buying that thing! NO FRIGGIN' WAY! lol Thanks for the link, Bro. :)

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 I think I paid $145 :) Yea its not cheap. I have seen several creations online with the DIY kits they have. Opens the creative possibilities, if the wallet can afford it

@Raven187FPV Год назад

Boom!

@djSpinege Год назад

i wish i was around for the marketing meeting where they discussed adding trinkets to a tiny whoop. do these guys even fly? lol

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Marketing certainly had their way on that inclusion.

@julienrodrigue9170 Год назад

Hd zero or walksnail?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

for me and my flight style with whoops hdzero. the variable latency has moments that feel uncomfortable or even result in crashing

@arQadjo Год назад

For Whoops only HD Zero, for bigger like 5 inch Walksnail gives better image

@sapolab_diy Год назад

Great, fantastic, but 3 grands for a whoop?? Oh my

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

yes, the vtx and camera are $150, then the rest of the quad for about another $70. I see a number of listings for $229 US.

@propsoff Год назад

I hit the like button...🔥👍🏻🔥 And it was FREE...🤯

@JanPeterSimonsen Год назад

My Walksnail Meteor75 has a serial elrs receiver! - It opens up wifi, and I could flash it to 3.0 with custom binding phrase no problem. (the none walksnail older meteor75 has spi!) Btw, the onboard storage ist 8GB not megabyte. ( 1:42 )

@Tenchi1007 Год назад

Which firmware target did you flash in ExpressLRS Configurator?

@DRonArtist Год назад

@@Tenchi1007 DIY 2.4GHz : DIY 2400 RX ESP8285 SX1280

@JanPeterSimonsen Год назад

@@Tenchi1007 as D'Ron Art posted, DIY 2400 RX ESP8285 SX1280 is correct - you can verify this easy by waiting for wifi to activate (60 seconds power, no tx) and then connect to the wifi. (there you see current firmware and can verify the target, and then can upload the new one)

@mattalford3932 7 месяцев назад

I don't like that beta fpv pretty much makes their battery system proprietary. My tinyhawk 3 used rubber bands to hold the battery so you could technically use bigger batteries

@Quad_Father Год назад

The Walksnail Happymodel Mobula 7 was announced on the Walksnail website and weighs 33.5grams. I couldn’t post the link…. RU-vid keeps removing my comment with the link.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Ah good info. At least I know I am not crazy. Yea, youtube often treats all links as spam or worse.

@nerassurdo Год назад

Gesundheit 🤧 😂

@gprov590 Год назад

Hi Nick, I'm sorry to be off topic for the video.. My wife won in the giveaway but was late to reply on your email.. Can she still get it? 😊

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I believe I responded to her via email.

@gprov590 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you nick 😅

@JanPeterSimonsen Год назад

The new (currently beta) firmware is the same for mini & normal (no longer different files).

@stst8301 Год назад

I see that the community is slowly walking away from the Dji digital system...

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

maybe, I also noticed rotor riot had a special no risk return on the FS dominator Walksnail goggles. Seems like maybe they didn't sell as many as they had hoped, or its just more of an interesting idea to grab a bit more attention.