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Michael Jordan Day debate 🚨 LeBron James is number two behind MJ! - Stephen A. Smith | First Take 

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Stephen A. Smith and Kendrick Perkins get into a heated debate about who the GOAT is and Stephen A. drops his top 5 Michael Jordan moments.
0:00 Kendrick Perkins says LeBron James is the greatest of all time
3:00 Stephen A. says LeBron NEVER was and NEVER has been nor will he ever be greater than MJ
6:50 Stephen A. says LeBron is number two all-time behind MJ
10:00 Stephen A. and Perk get into a heated debate about LeBron and MJ
11:20 Perk leans back on Stephen A.
12:17 Stephen's A-List: Top 5 Michael Jordan moments
17:24 Kendrick Perkins praises Stephen A.
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@MambaBreezy24
@MambaBreezy24 Год назад
MJ's brand is officially a sponsor in at least three different sports. That's how iconic he is. All because of his otherworldly talent.🐐
@SupervisorMartinez
@SupervisorMartinez Год назад
It’s Jordan Day ! Lebron doesn’t have a day ….
@quentinkupenga2779
@quentinkupenga2779 Год назад
Wow
@jdl8543
@jdl8543 Год назад
James 🐐
@eseaun3652
@eseaun3652 Год назад
lmao...all because the nba pushed him to make the league look good for sales. He even said it in the doc. They wanted to clean up the league and he was the savior.
@PRo-bv1cx
@PRo-bv1cx Год назад
MJ just a shoes brand without PHIL PIPPEN.
@ryanshepard8625
@ryanshepard8625 Год назад
Watching them argue about this topic will never not be entertaining to me 😂😂😂
@Chumbama
@Chumbama Год назад
You can watch them argue this topic again 2 weeks from today on MJ's 60th birthday.
@Comedyvibes
@Comedyvibes Год назад
Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and also saviour
@Comedyvibes
@Comedyvibes Год назад
@@Chumbama Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and saviour
@ryanshepard8625
@ryanshepard8625 Год назад
@@Chumbama Wow, I just realized MJ turns 60 this year. Time really does fly by.
@nanashi7779
@nanashi7779 Год назад
@@Comedyvibes I will not worship a man as God
@pk6121
@pk6121 Год назад
Michael Jordan is way beyond an NBA player, legend, etc. People around the world know Jordan and don't even know what the NBA is. They don't even care about basketball, but still know Jordan. His fame and legacy has gone beyond the NBA and way outside of the NBA courts. He's an icon. No other player has ever reached that status. Lebron James might be famous in America now, but he's quite unknown in most places around the world. Jordan played in the 90s and he's still the topic of discussion. Jordan literally changed the game and inspired millions. His fastness, elegance in playing and his skill overall are totally unique. Lebron is very good, but he doesn't have a unique style of play. That debate is just ridiculous and there are way more players that could contend for the No2 position, such as Kobe.
@jimbrave426
@jimbrave426 Год назад
exactly if it has to be a SG or SF which is what the media only talks about they even talk about Power Forwards and Centers like Kareem, Wilt, Robinson, O'neal, Russell, Giannis, Olajuwon and Duncan. 1. Jordan 2. Isiah 3. Magic 4. Bird 5. Pippen 6. Kobe 7. Erving 8. Barkley was a wing who played PF also 9. Penny 10. Kawhi 11. Curry 12. Durant 13. James 14. Dirk is a Wing that could play PF. 15. Drexler 16. L. Johnson 17. G. Hill 18. K. Johnson 19. Havlicek 20. Monroe
@pk6121
@pk6121 Год назад
@@jimbrave426 I like this list!
@joehristovski9480
@joehristovski9480 Год назад
Jordan is the Goat ! All this media guys are sell outs ! Who stated MJ was the goat and now want to state lebron as the goat as they had to beat him to win 1 Fken chip ! They should focused on their careers and less on weed and partying and streaming live like Paul wheelchair Peiece !
@checoPH
@checoPH Год назад
Oh Please! And LEBRON IS THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA. LEBRON IS THE GOAT PERIOD.
@pk6121
@pk6121 Год назад
@@checoPH Never has been and never will be. Only casuals who barely understand basketball and the history of the game think that Lebron is greater than Jordan
@renee5451
@renee5451 Год назад
The fact Lbj didn't show up vs. Dallas in the finals told me all I needed to know
@davergent1521
@davergent1521 Год назад
Agreed. Out of the GOAT debate how many of those candidates shrunk at the highest level of the NBA finals. Good making it but what good is 2nd place? A loss is a loss. Also, how many GOAT candidates needed someone like K Ivering or R Allen to bail them out at the most crucial moment? Call Lebron clutch if you want fanboys, but it was moments like R Allen saving them from the Spurs when Lebron should've took it over, but he didn't enough said.
@masco2483
@masco2483 Год назад
Wasn't in his prime yet
@MixManiac120
@MixManiac120 Год назад
The debate was over right there!! Swept in the Finals, choked in the Finals. It's over. All delusional Lebron fans do is make excuses.
@EliDSage
@EliDSage Год назад
Thank you
@brianconnery2801
@brianconnery2801 Год назад
“Sometimes the others don’t live up to the hype”. Perk that was Lebron in 2011
@cbiz1917
@cbiz1917 Год назад
Jordan is the legacy Lebron is longevity what MJ did in 15 seasons can't be ignored I have to agree with SAS on this one, LeBron has had an incredible career about to pass Kareem , but there was just something magical about MJ's game..probably never see another two players like them again
@miatodd3236
@miatodd3236 Год назад
I like your answer! Very true
@chrisakokoh9118
@chrisakokoh9118 Год назад
That era was just not as talented. No guard in that league besides Jordan was talented like the players today.
@carlosfontenotjr4418
@carlosfontenotjr4418 Год назад
@@chrisakokoh9118 that’s pure BS. Also, the rules of todays game allows them to get away with a ton offensively that in the 80s, 90s you just couldn’t. Is there more talent? Absolutely. Are they better at the game of basketball, not necessarily. Fundamentally, they are actually much worse today.
@crookedbraincrookedbrain9874
@@carlosfontenotjr4418 illegal defense,u know what it is? There was no tactics in the 90s because of it,just isolations,the game was not better
@212keith
@212keith Год назад
@@carlosfontenotjr4418 watered down league with expansion teams lol.
@lindabrown2090
@lindabrown2090 Год назад
MJ was and still is the G.O.A.T.🐐
@raywilliams7266
@raywilliams7266 Год назад
Absolutely without a doubt!
@courtjestersc46
@courtjestersc46 Год назад
This post could have more likes..... but it's perfect the way it is lol
@luisomar293
@luisomar293 Год назад
And will be the goat for a while
@geraldtaylor8712
@geraldtaylor8712 Год назад
Kobe is the goat 🐐
@33johnuelpr
@33johnuelpr Год назад
what argument does he have over lebron? rings? has had a better team and faced worse competition. mvps? less competition. def a better scorer & defender but not a good rebounder or playmaker or finisher
@thescarecrow897
@thescarecrow897 Год назад
there was just something magical about the 90's era basketball
@deboldsinas6415
@deboldsinas6415 3 месяца назад
Its nostalgic to you, thats it. No magic in there
@JosephLopez-or1gg
@JosephLopez-or1gg 2 месяца назад
No it was time where hard work was praised and you deep your rewards now the nba is gimme gimme gimme lebron left CLEVELEND when he couldn’t win he gave up
@hernandezmarkie7382
@hernandezmarkie7382 2 месяца назад
​@@deboldsinas6415then you never watched go type in any game from the 90s on nba on NBC just a regular season game and look at the crowed the players effort Noone is load managing everyone was playing there hearts out Noone was joining super teams and they played defense on every play you obviously never watched it because it's common sense
@Q.B.2.L.B.
@Q.B.2.L.B. 2 месяца назад
​@@deboldsinas6415watch the all star games from then compared to now.
@Willisarnold3
@Willisarnold3 Год назад
Perk already loss the argument he came in talmbout "I got Jordans on my feet"
@Wazahatkhan1997
@Wazahatkhan1997 Год назад
Michael Jordan will always be greatest of all time it's not only about ability and achievement MJ's impact in game was incomparable
@Bappery
@Bappery Год назад
Lmaooo Lebron impact on a game ? Literally change the game
@kris7592
@kris7592 Год назад
@smellykush48
@smellykush48 Год назад
@@Bappery what did he do to change it? If anything curry was more impressionable than lebron 🤣
@larryjames3437
@larryjames3437 Год назад
@@Bappery how did he change the game
@Brian_nairb
@Brian_nairb Год назад
I get the impact cause the game was not as global yet and he made it global & the talent pool was not as deep as today. But then say he had the greatest impact not that he was the greatest player when one is showing that he’s better. Bron is literally the perfect basketball player that can do everything on the court, play 1-5 on both ends, lead both teams on the floor on all major stats. Only flaw is not being 80%+ free throw shooter
@Shadedgray
@Shadedgray Год назад
I live in Nigeria and know that Micheal Jordan is the only reason the NBA is known worldwide
@patrickphuong2609
@patrickphuong2609 Год назад
Spell it right: Michael. As in Michael Jordan Steakhouse, Chicago & NYC. Hakeem Olajuwon, Nigeria, top 10.
@HoopmanX
@HoopmanX Год назад
Lol..bro I'm 🇳🇬 Nigerian too... Hakeem Olajuwon made basketball popular in Naija in the 80s!!
@lordbayor
@lordbayor Год назад
@@HoopmanX thank you oo....I wanted to even ask that guy who said he is Nigerian and MJ made the game popular in Nigeria and Africa...., how old are you... I am Nigerian too and Hakeem Olajuwon made the game popular in Nigeria cos in 1995 , no musician that was not singing his name when his team Houston Rockets won the championship... Same goes to Germany, Dirk made the game popular in Germany.. I bet you Basketball is not even so followed in England like the media in USA wants you to think, until there is a star from England who is balling then you will see how people in England will follow the game.
@Marlowe10100
@Marlowe10100 Год назад
I´m from Mexico, it's clear people here still remember Jordan, even the kids because of the sneackers or I don't know. Few people know Lebron, only the hoopers, regular people don't know about him, for real.
@jacquonf4925
@jacquonf4925 Год назад
This is a lie 😂😂😂
@mindurbiznez651
@mindurbiznez651 Год назад
I like how Perkins said ,LeBron has checked all the check marks , then in the same breath saids this ain’t bout individual achievements when it came to Jordan but not to LeBron 🤦🏻‍♂️
@milosstojanovic7143
@milosstojanovic7143 Год назад
all of Lebrons teammates are in espn or fox etx...
@mcmorales750
@mcmorales750 Год назад
he forgot lebron also checked the most turnovers in history
@milosstojanovic7143
@milosstojanovic7143 Год назад
@@mcmorales750 lebron fans forget everything except stat padding
@yuanzhang8690
@yuanzhang8690 Год назад
Say all you want about Stephen A and his hot takes, but you can’t deny his enthusiasm and work ethic… I personally find him very entertaining to watch😂
@varunshahvo-tv9854
@varunshahvo-tv9854 Год назад
Bro he works 3 hrs a day
@davidswank3510
@davidswank3510 Год назад
@@varunshahvo-tv9854 lmaooo
@SSJRome
@SSJRome Год назад
ESPN has created a whole day to celebrate Michael Jordan andddd lebron James getting mentioned tells the whole story .
@MrDoomonish
@MrDoomonish Год назад
Well if it was them it’s y’all lol. Y’all always bringing him up
@kevincoates5066
@kevincoates5066 Год назад
@@MrDoomonish folks can be talking about anything n somehow bring Lebron up,I’ve witnessed it lol
@sonniru4522
@sonniru4522 Год назад
It’s a debate show for a reason lol no debates no show 😂😂
@marcmoellering6619
@marcmoellering6619 Год назад
Usually in a negative light
@YoSistasEx
@YoSistasEx Год назад
Bro Its 2/3/23 If LeBron Wasn't Gone Brake It This Was Gone Happen
@MrStuntmanMic
@MrStuntmanMic Год назад
Debate died in 2011 but congratulations to Bron for an amazing career of longevity
@amdude1015
@amdude1015 Год назад
His longevity is the reason why he is better than MJ 😂. Lebron won back to back championships after 2011. He literally recovered from that
@MrStuntmanMic
@MrStuntmanMic Год назад
@@amdude1015 not to me…but we have our own opinion and views
@luminousrxk7288
@luminousrxk7288 Год назад
@@amdude1015 by that logic malone is a greater player than MJ because he was better for longer.
@suntansuperman26
@suntansuperman26 Год назад
@@amdude1015 Played longer but achieved less and that’s better to you?
@kingmoney3163
@kingmoney3163 Год назад
@@suntansuperman26 I mean …. Lebron has actually achieved more overall than Michael Jordan , let’s be real .
@crzy__
@crzy__ Год назад
I really don’t know why this is still an argument. MJ is literally the reason why I still have hopes and dreams of playing rugby professionally. His greatness has inspired millions globally including me! If MJ played in the league for 20 years he would’ve broke the record ages ago lol
@69Saragoth
@69Saragoth Год назад
Lebron is averaging the same PPG this season, as a 38 year old in his 20th season, as Michael Jordon did for his career. Lebron is better by every single basketball metric or stat, outside of surface level scoring metrics. Assists, rbds, efficiency, def, clutch % - every metric in basketball favors Lebron. The MJ argument is really simple. He was an extremely cool dude that people idolized so people consider him the GOAT with no legitimate basis for it. 6-0 in the finals is the only argument I hear, but what about the 9 other seasons in the league? MJ gets rewarded for losing before the finals 9 out of his 15 years, while Lebron gets demonized for losing in the finals. News flash, losing earlier should not be better for your legacy and this standard is only applied in the MJ v Lebron debate.
@AceBoogie_
@AceBoogie_ Год назад
Silly comment
@crzy__
@crzy__ Год назад
@@69Saragoth you clearly haven’t seen the goat debate videos all over RU-vid that literally walk you through why MJ is the better overall player 🤡🤡🤡
@kendricbaines2415
@kendricbaines2415 Год назад
But you alike everyone else misses the point.. The question isn’t the impact or inspiration. Obviously when you are one of the first guys if not the first guy to influence the way you look at something there will always be love and appreciation for them. MJ was who everyone in his era and this era looked up to. That does not mean he won’t be surpassed. But by this logic you shared then there is no way the peak of basketball can be reached. And it’s a little wild lol. 1 man who wa“does this make sense. Most of you guys answers that support MJ isn’t based off of fact it’s based off of Nostalgia. Basketball skill and capability should be separate. 🤷🏾‍♂️ ijs.
@thisnewnamesystemisdumb
@thisnewnamesystemisdumb Год назад
@Factualx So true. People also forget or exclude the level of competition each played against. Mj played against great individual players while lebron played against great teams with great players. Big difference. For anyone that wants to argue competition... what team did mj beat that was comparable to the dynasty Spurs or even the big 3.5 Celtics that lebron kept facing. Lebron has been tasked with doing EVERYTHING since he joined the league. Mj was only asked to score and defend (which he did an amazing job at). The greatest PLAYER of all time is clearly lebron. I'll gladly give mj the greatest scorer title though.
@muds1123
@muds1123 Год назад
Stephen A humiliated him 😂😂😂😂
@checoPH
@checoPH Год назад
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@Donny89100
@Donny89100 Год назад
MJ the 🐐
@askiahrichardson8911
@askiahrichardson8911 Год назад
Period!!!!!
@iliketurtles7259
@iliketurtles7259 Год назад
Nah lil bro
@chadk890
@chadk890 Год назад
​@@iliketurtles7259 🙄
@Panni1
@Panni1 Год назад
Wow this is a fresh and interesting debate I've never heard before!
@Comedyvibes
@Comedyvibes Год назад
Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and also saviour
@juliussaavedra2400
@juliussaavedra2400 Год назад
You’re an original bro… hahaha
@BlaccGeezuss
@BlaccGeezuss Год назад
It's alil fresh between them... they need to be first take
@phillipmoore6249
@phillipmoore6249 Год назад
@@Comedyvibes the first written proof of Jesus was 250 years after he died That’s like describing who George Washington is after 250 years of story
@alexking2476
@alexking2476 Год назад
Where have you been living?? In a dumpster?
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien Год назад
Jordan's move on the Nets is still the greatest layup I've ever seen by far.
@m2k33311
@m2k33311 Год назад
It's the reaction of opposing player on the bench that's sitting next to 2nd pick Sam Bowie just looking.
@joelmartinez5725
@joelmartinez5725 Год назад
I’m convinced perk doesn’t know about basketball!😂
@joeagcaoili4633
@joeagcaoili4633 Год назад
Is he?
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 Год назад
SAS: MJ won 6 chips Kendrick Perkins : This is not an individual sport. Lebron about to be the all time leading scorer LOL
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Год назад
Yeah, that was funny...
@kingbalmer3810
@kingbalmer3810 Год назад
While being 4 in all time assist LEBRON is a scorer that can really pass the on magic type level
@kevinabernathy6472
@kevinabernathy6472 Год назад
You don’t understand what he is saying? Championship is a team achievement, not a individual accomplishment. Lebron holding the scoring record is the greatest individual accomplishment in the sport.
@dereknunn2699
@dereknunn2699 Год назад
@@kevinabernathy6472 pretty sure MVP is the greatest individual accomplishment in the sport
@obynoomere1280
@obynoomere1280 Год назад
🤣🤣🤣👍👍
@Sf75178
@Sf75178 Год назад
Jordan was 9 times all defensive first at the same time as scoring champ. That really shows how much of a beast he was on both ends. Also steals champ at the same time as scoring champ. Something that never gets mentioned. Jordan is top 5 in both totals and per game averages in both scoring and steals. Some players maybe both for one stat but not 2. Jordan took it to another level in the finals especially the first 3. 91-- average 11.4 assists per game highest for anyone not Magic. 92 - - average an impressive 42% for 3s and in game 1 shot six 3s in a half which was a record for 18 years until Ray Allen the only person to shoot more in a half 93-- average 41 points per game highest ever. Jordan has a higher peak which LeBron has not surpassed
@khushpreetsingh5007
@khushpreetsingh5007 Год назад
92 was the year the 3 point line moved though. Jordan’s only aspect that wasn’t best in class was 3 point shooting.
@Sf75178
@Sf75178 Год назад
@@khushpreetsingh5007 the 3 point line was moved In 95 not 92!
@zinjgreen3398
@zinjgreen3398 Год назад
@@khushpreetsingh5007 does it matter? MJ doesn't take that much 3's btw, but Lebron with team USA got 2 bronze 🥉 and they lost to a team with no NBA player
@hugosilva3916
@hugosilva3916 Год назад
I saw Mj's whole career and I saw Lebron's whole career... Lebron is better than Jordan... in a one vs one would anyone bet on Jordan to beat Lebron? lebron is bigger and stronger and has a higher IQ than jordan... and my friends in the 80s jordan was just a loser who didn't pass the ball to anyone.. with the end of the lakersthe celtics and pistons MJ became the undisputed king of the 90s - which was a weaker nba era compared to the 80s ! 1vs1 i bet my life on lebron
@TypicalBlakk
@TypicalBlakk Год назад
@@hugosilva3916 lmao you typing that up like it add any credibility to your statement😂😂😂 Lebron took himself out the goat Convo in 2011 8 points in a finals game clamped by Jason Terry and JJ Barrea😭😭
@johnjones9034
@johnjones9034 Год назад
Biggest difference between them is MJ could get buckets within an offense while lebron needed the ball too much. That’s why Lebron has played with so much incredible talent and had the highest payroll in the league multiple times but never elevated a single team into the top 15 in league history for season dominance score while Jordan has FIVE teams in the top 12.
@pochen23
@pochen23 Год назад
Incredible observation. To me, MJ used to do exactly what Lebron did early in his career while he would just play PG and SG at the same time racking up stats. He realized during that period that he couldn't do it like that and win consistently. So when Phil started coaching him, MJ evolved into someone who could play within the system and did not need the ball much to be effective, that's the polar opposite with players like Westbrook and Harden who need the ball the entire game to be effective. In my opinion, Lebron is still just at that level where he has not evolved. He still needs the ball 24/7 to operate. MJ in the 90s was the finest form of team basketball while still putting up staggering individual stats. Remember people used to say scoring champ don't win championships, it is still true to this day but that rule did not apply to MJ. For all that usage MJ used to have, he had bare minimum turnovers, incredible efficiency.
@lolipopi503
@lolipopi503 10 месяцев назад
MJ has dpoy and mvp in a same season..Lebron doesnt not have.
@Perfection212
@Perfection212 Год назад
MJ was 10x scoring Champion (1987-1993/1996-98) playing in an era that was no blood no foul.A feat that probably no one will ever accomplished again.We are talking here of 10 consecutive seasons!He is also the All Time Leader in Points per game.
@brennangilbert3332
@brennangilbert3332 Год назад
If we can't compare era's then we can't compare stats. The cake has been baked....Jordan is the G.O.A.T.!! ....next question!
@norwoodhammond650
@norwoodhammond650 Год назад
Great point. They don't want accolades in the GOAT debate because Lebrons accolades don't add up. They don't want compare eras because Jordan's Era was tougher 🤣🤣. This should be against the law
@mercisadiki
@mercisadiki Год назад
If you can’t compare Eras then he can’t be the GOAT…Evolution says that what comes after will always be greater than what came before because it is an advanced version of it. Players are evolved so if LeBron is the greatest of his Era then that makes him superior to any Era that came before. It’s basically biology, math, and physics. People talk about physicality as if a 260lbs LeBron James wouldn’t absolutely obliterate any previous era where guards were a buck 50 and big men were 230 pounds. Y’all crack me up.
@ResultsTv
@ResultsTv Год назад
@@mercisadiki so you gone act like bron didn’t face worse with jj barea and terry locking him down lmaoooo
@mercisadiki
@mercisadiki Год назад
@@ResultsTv judging a man based on 1 series out of a 20 year career is illogical. Can we talk about Jordan getting swept in first rounds then?
@ResultsTv
@ResultsTv Год назад
@@mercisadiki no player in history could have got that bad team passed the 1st round lol mj didn’t jump ship to win
@titomoney13
@titomoney13 Год назад
I have never heard a person make more points against their own argument like perk! Starting with the Jordan’s on his feet! 😂
@josephkanu2778
@josephkanu2778 Год назад
Perk knows MJ is the goat.
@obynoomere1280
@obynoomere1280 Год назад
That's cold 🥶 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@robertwilson9528
@robertwilson9528 Год назад
I knew he lost already saying that lol
@obedasante3522
@obedasante3522 Год назад
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo. I said the same thing lol. "I have Js on my feet" I almost died laughing. there's no need to continue the debate after that statement.
@officialsonic1
@officialsonic1 Год назад
Michael Jorden did this under 15 seasons in a tougher defense era Michael did this with the same team
@chanceterry1687
@chanceterry1687 Год назад
What team did Jordan beat that was better than the Spurs or the Warriors?
@officialsonic1
@officialsonic1 Год назад
@@chanceterry1687 i give the spurs but warriors only had one great defender and that's Draymond green
@frenzal191
@frenzal191 Год назад
@@chanceterry1687 Max Kellerman said it best, MJ never had to slay the monster because he was the monster.
@chanceterry1687
@chanceterry1687 Год назад
@@frenzal191 regardless, he never faced any competition like these teams Lebron played against. Not even close and when he did play good teams he got bounced in the first round 💀
@jaydenvu4178
@jaydenvu4178 Год назад
@@chanceterry1687 Warriors are SOFT! SOFTEST ERA! That little boy Curry gonna get fucked up by them bulls defense. You ain’t gotta worry abt Klay cuz he don’t show up. Pippen will lock up Durant clean and Rodman will take care of that fake gangsta Draymond Green.
@yuanzhang8690
@yuanzhang8690 Год назад
Legendary monologue by Stephen A😂😂😂
@m1ty
@m1ty Год назад
Persnickety!!! 😅🤣😂
@jonathancalderon8178
@jonathancalderon8178 Год назад
Creating an “MJ day” to talk about MJ a few days before Lebron breaks the all time scoring record says all we need to know
@CyCamronAnderson
@CyCamronAnderson Год назад
LeBron breaking the all time scoring record is Awesome😃🥹 The Goat!! PSYCH🤣🤣🤣🥱🥴 MJ ALWAYS💪🏾 (Knuckleheads) my Charles Barkley voice🤣😂😹
@alexking2476
@alexking2476 Год назад
They pushing hard for lebron because he on his way out. That western conference a little tougher than he thought. Bron about to break the scoring title and they worried home boy won't sell out the stadium that night because lakers fans not about it 😂 .... that's how you know you aren't the best. The story tells itself.
@CulEdz
@CulEdz Год назад
@@alexking2476 that’s why tickets going as high as 93k. Nobody wants to watch lol
@blackhole1746
@blackhole1746 Год назад
It says absolutely nothing
@Viewingviewer3
@Viewingviewer3 Год назад
@@blackhole1746 it’s says tht mj is insecure. Bron wins a ring for cle. Mj offically let’s the last dance get signed. Lebron wins 4th ring. The last dance was made available right before his 10th finals appearance. Lebron about to break Kareem’s record. Mj “day” lol. We know lebrons a better individual player
@MostHated_Murda5
@MostHated_Murda5 Год назад
They both have good points… that’s why MJ said u can’t compare eras..
@evilminions00
@evilminions00 Год назад
Nobody cares about your opinion lebron the goat simple.
@salvatoresultana4058
@salvatoresultana4058 Год назад
@@evilminions00 everything says that Jordan is the GOAT.
@knightdance8377
@knightdance8377 Год назад
You never even watched Jordan play. You have to be literally insane to watch both of them play in their primes and come to the conclusion Lebron is even in the discussion.
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 Год назад
@@knightdance8377 Facts
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Год назад
It's a priviledge for Lebron to even be compared (unfairly) to Jordan.
@adamr.kalucki4347
@adamr.kalucki4347 Год назад
Honestly, the way Jordan did it. -15 seasons with one team (Bulls) -6 championships 6 championships MVP’s -10 time scoring record -Never left the bulls in the 1980’s even though they did not go as far as they thought they would. Bron -4 teams and counting -could be argued that when things get tough, he stays a little bit and then when things get tough again, he leaves. Just the way jordan did it has to put him above lebron forever.
@matazo2432
@matazo2432 Год назад
I thoroughly enjoyed the commentary by Stephen A on the top 5 favorite moments at the end. That was very entertaining
@patcisz3474
@patcisz3474 Год назад
6x champion, 6x finals MVP, 5x regular season MVP, DPOTY, 3x steals leader, 10x scoring champion the ultimate GOAT is Michael Jordan no debate
@deejayjohnson3115
@deejayjohnson3115 Год назад
Sorry baby girl if it wasn't a debate they wouldn't be talking about it so yes it is
@the-ish-1_21
@the-ish-1_21 Год назад
@@deejayjohnson3115 shouldn't be a debate the bronsexuals wanna make it a debate
@stevecordina7678
@stevecordina7678 Год назад
​@DeeJay Johnson only espn be talkin
@Iulznazi
@Iulznazi Год назад
At the end of the day, it all boils down to Longevity vs Peak. MJ had the greatest peak, with his multiple three-peats, MVP's, even getting a DPOY while still playing otherworldly offense. MJ brought basketball to the international stage. Lebron on the other hand, has played in so many games, top 5 in assists and will be number 1 in scoring in a few games in addition to going to a 10 finals, and has sustained his high level playing for so long. Personally, I think that MJ is still the GOAT, but Lebron is close behind. MJ has transcended beyond basketball. We still call someone who excels at their respective sport, or even other non-athletic speciality that they are the "MJ of ..."
@JayK07
@JayK07 Год назад
MJ also took too breaks in his peak was well rested
@jacquonf4925
@jacquonf4925 Год назад
MJ had the greatest peak against bums. This not even a discussion, Bron the GOAT
@kckennedy1325
@kckennedy1325 Год назад
ppl call others the lebron of their sport as well
@kentayali
@kentayali Год назад
@Espo78 Jordan said they had no answer for hakeem and the rockets always beat bulls in regular season but they on west conference
@4linegoon632
@4linegoon632 Год назад
LeBron is no where near Jordan stop the Cap
@rob19ny
@rob19ny Год назад
LeBron had a head start coming out of high school while MJ spent 3 years in college. MJ was scored 32,292 in 1,072 games. LeBron passed MJ with 1,190 games played. That's 118 more games played than MJ. MJ had 2 seasons where he played 18 and 17 games. In his 2nd season, he got injured and only played 18 games, but still averaged 22 ppg. The 17 games was when he came back at the end of the season from retirement. He averaged 26 ppg. Both season were only worth 406 and 457 points. MJ retired 2 times before finally retiring. MJ missed almost a full 5 seasons due to retirement. MJ scored 23k his 1st season. Once he came back from injury in his 3rd season, he scored 3,000 points. From then, he scored, 2,800, 2600, 2700, 2500, 2400, 2500 before his 1st retirement. The season after he came back, he scored 2400, 2400, 2300 before retiring again. Now looking at LeBron, his 1st and 2nd season was 1600 and 2100. His 3rd season was 2400. That's the highest points he scored in a season. Every season following has been below that. He's had 8 seasons scoring below 2000 points. Even if you exclude the lockout and covid, he's had 1 too many under 2000 points seasons. His numbers during his 1st stint with the Cavs are way lower than MJ's with the Bulls. MJ was putting up monster numbers. MJ had 6 straight seasons scoring between 37 to 30 points ppg before his 1st retirement. The numbers tell the story. MJ would be way over 40,000 points had he not retired. He would have been the #1 all time scorer. This is embarrassing for LeBron who got a 3 year head start on MJ. Proof that MJ is the GOAT.
@miltongloster2334
@miltongloster2334 Год назад
Facts I hate this debate. Jordan is the goat I don't see how people see otherwise. The boy was just different. Bron is good he's just not better than Jordan.
@BrettMaverick
@BrettMaverick Год назад
If we’re gonna play the “what if’s” game… What if Bron and MJ switched positions? Bron would have at least 6 rings..
@ScruffyWarlord
@ScruffyWarlord Год назад
Your arguments are typical what ifs for defending Jordan. It doesn't work that way. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
@ScruffyWarlord
@ScruffyWarlord Год назад
Rob notice how you didn't present any actually FACTS. You go by feelings. You keep saying IF Jordan had played longer. Well he didn't. That's like saying IF Lebron had Dennis Rodman and Phil Jackson as a coach blah blah blah. Enought with ambiguities. Lebron is tp 4 in all time ASSISTS. Let that sink in. The guy is primarily a pass first POINT GUARD and he still is STILL the all time leader in points scored.
@rob19ny
@rob19ny Год назад
@@ScruffyWarlord ScruffyClownlord, notice how you're a mentally challenged clown that can't comprehend what you read? Oh, wait... you didn't notice because thats part of being mentally challenged.
@ethiopiantube6474
@ethiopiantube6474 Год назад
Facts it was much harder to score because you can play much more physically
@NovakaneWorldwide93
@NovakaneWorldwide93 Год назад
Lebron played with more offensive talent than Jordan with Wade, Kyrie and AD. And he still didn’t win more rings than 4. Lebron is a more balanced individual talent but Mike was more dominant at offensive and defensive. More balanced doesn’t mean greater.
@Threes2x
@Threes2x Год назад
He’s played with way more talent AD, Wade, bosh, Kyrie, love, westbrook, and some of the best shooters ever like Ray Allen, Kyle korver.
@HCOEDAYDAY
@HCOEDAYDAY Год назад
You don’t know basketball MJ played with more HOF 😂🤦🏾‍♂️
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 Год назад
@@HCOEDAYDAY mj made those dudes hall of famers except Rodman
@skylarforrest1849
@skylarforrest1849 Год назад
MJ played with 2 of the greatest defensive players of all time and the greatest coach in NBA history
@eliasdejesussanchez1321
@eliasdejesussanchez1321 Год назад
Who doesnt know about basket is you, he said a completed true , Mj is the best ever but lbj is the most balanced player.
@Ejyap0
@Ejyap0 Год назад
Imagine Shannon Sharpe and Kendrick Perkins vs Skip and Stephen A. in a Jordan vs Bron debate😂😂
@toomuchtraveling
@toomuchtraveling Год назад
That’ll be epic but I’d replace Kendrick with Nick Wright.
@iliketurtles7259
@iliketurtles7259 Год назад
Shannon will cook them boys
@ThreePointThreat
@ThreePointThreat Год назад
@@iliketurtles7259hell no lmao. When it comes to basketball and that topic in particular, Shannon would get torn apart
@isaacsmith3901
@isaacsmith3901 Год назад
Shannon and Stephen A need their own show 😂
@elijahgotti875
@elijahgotti875 Год назад
@@iliketurtles7259what is you retarded or something
@Vanguardkl
@Vanguardkl Год назад
Im in Malaysia and i started watching NBA because of Jordan in 1995 when i was 8 years old, and im now 36 and Michael is the greatest.
@fromnothingalegend
@fromnothingalegend Год назад
You're simply nostalgic... Get this, had it been LeBron, you'd be oohing and aahing bout LeBron made u watch ball... Somewhere rn a kid will grow up to say LeBron made them watch ball at 8
@robX931
@robX931 Год назад
@@fromnothingalegend Good point. My father believes Kareem is the GOAT. He has an argument. I believe it's MJ. My son think it is LeBron. I'm sure some older people will argue Russell or Wilt. All have rights to claim the GOAT in their own ways.
@michaelchristipher3147
@michaelchristipher3147 Год назад
@@fromnothingalegend or you can literally just watch the people play. I never saw Barry sanders play live, I grew up with LaDainian Tomlinson, priest Holmes, Derrick Henry, Adrian Peterson etc. Barry sanders is the greatest running back to have ever played. Just watch him run. Michael Jordan is the greatest player to ever play, just watch him play. Lebron is top 5, but he’s never going to be on mikes level. He’s not smooth, he doesn’t have that must win mentality. He will never be mike. Impossible. Closest thing to mike was Kobe, who is also a more talented player than lebron.
@ThreePointThreat
@ThreePointThreat Год назад
@@fromnothingalegendLeBron’s achievements are fresh in your mind. Your view on LeBron is fueled by recency bias. Before you talk about people’s views being guided by nostalgia, be sure to consider how recency bias affects your view. LeBron is never going to surpass MJ as the GOAT. It’s not even close
@lilblast7745
@lilblast7745 Год назад
Bron is better sorry
@edwardhawkins3380
@edwardhawkins3380 Год назад
MJ was magical nobody moved like Mike. Making all those incredible shots.
@armandop9082
@armandop9082 Год назад
Anybody that saw MJ play knows it's no contest imagine jj barea guarding Jordan in finals lol
@Threes2x
@Threes2x Год назад
I use to think that was a meme but JJ barea actually did lock up bron on a possession😂
@DaKaneSaw
@DaKaneSaw Год назад
Agreed, although can't see Bron having any issues being guarded by GP
@jsgr5382
@jsgr5382 Год назад
Imagine John Starks, Craig Elo, Danny Ainge, Dan majerle, Jeff Hornacek, Mookie Blaylock, guarded LeBron lol. I watched MJ's career. Lebrons the goat
@ekamsandhu134
@ekamsandhu134 Год назад
@@Threes2x it’s a meme lol , look at total possessions
@ala2417
@ala2417 Год назад
Bron 🐐
@miguelmendez8376
@miguelmendez8376 Год назад
Michael Jeffrey Jordan will always be the greatest basketball player.
@lyndellhall3457
@lyndellhall3457 Год назад
That was until LeBron James came along!
@crzy__
@crzy__ Год назад
@@lyndellhall3457 stop capping. MJ forever
@Yung_Fargo
@Yung_Fargo Год назад
😂🚮🚮
@divinedeparture5560
@divinedeparture5560 Год назад
@@crzy__ it's bill russel kid 11-0 try harder
@divinedeparture5560
@divinedeparture5560 Год назад
bill russel
@steplaland
@steplaland Год назад
Jordan has so many moments not in SAS's top 5 including his shoulder shrug, flu game, Cavs beater, Ewing dunk, and so many more. Lebron, I only remember the Iggy chase down block and the Game 6 maniac stare. Jordan 🐐
@OneAcer
@OneAcer Год назад
The poster on Ewing on my list... just filthy... the footwork my god.. 6-0.. Legend.
@keilow5500
@keilow5500 Год назад
Perkins just said championships doesn’t define your legacy in a team sport… ITS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF EVERY PLAYER TO BE A CHAMPION…. L take
@kennyannunziato5477
@kennyannunziato5477 Год назад
@Perk: Back in the day, it was five defenders ALL knowing MJ was taking the shot, they still couldn't stop him. THAT is a big difference, to be considered. Not only the more physical game of the era..
@RC-on6eg
@RC-on6eg Год назад
It was also illegal to have certain defenses that would have slowed Jordan down but you might be too young to know that
@maxwellbrito6602
@maxwellbrito6602 Год назад
Exactly.
@maxwellbrito6602
@maxwellbrito6602 Год назад
You couldn’t even double or triple team back then how they do Bron.
@kayvonmalik267
@kayvonmalik267 Год назад
Zone defense was illegal back then LOL meaning mj was going iso against dudes like Jeff Hornacek 😂😂😂😂😂😂 everything was one on one basically back then bro. Imagine 6'9 250 LeBron in that era he's getting to the bucket with ease
@norwoodhammond650
@norwoodhammond650 Год назад
@R C excuses excuses. Like always. LeBron James has the most turnovers in NBA History. HE was the reason his Miami superteam DIDN'T 3peat Vs Dallas. It's totally fine to have a guy as your favorite player, but delusional to make excuses at every turn in order to MAKE that player the GOAT.
@arthor8134
@arthor8134 Год назад
The way Stephen A was reacting to his list! 🤣🤣
@junebug97472
@junebug97472 Год назад
Oh Lawd, OH LAWD🗣😭
@fweweebs
@fweweebs Год назад
the best comedy i've seen
@mustagkeemharris5841
@mustagkeemharris5841 Год назад
"Look at this move right here" Perk had to let it Out🤣🤣
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 Год назад
Bron got 6 Finals LOSSES with handpicked superteams & Klutz Sports! I'm not understanding how this is a debate. MJ >>> by a landslide.
@harinderrana9735
@harinderrana9735 Год назад
Did MJ face a team as good as the Spurs or Warriors that LeBron faced.
@johnny6610
@johnny6610 Год назад
@@harinderrana9735 Jordan had a harder road to the finals and Lebron was on the weak east, that’s why he made it to all those finals. Also did Jordan play a worse team than the 2020 Heat in the finals? 😂😂😂
@nichad29
@nichad29 Год назад
The only argument lebron has over MJ is longevity and one can argue tackling MJ to stop him from going at the rim contributed to him not playing as long as lebron
@JayDaMan420
@JayDaMan420 Год назад
Longevity, more efficient scorer, most complete player ever, Most Playoff game winners, most playoff buzzer beaters, highest percentage on Game winning shots, faced tougher competition, and please dont talk about tackling when Lebron has been literally hit in the face and broke his nose with no foul call, and he still gets hacked with no calls😅
@screwheadtx3658
@screwheadtx3658 Год назад
And he still aint on MJ level 😂
@nydibs
@nydibs Год назад
@@JayDaMan420 - most complete player: scoring leader and defensive player of the year
@JayDaMan420
@JayDaMan420 Год назад
@@nydibs *Ignores Passing, rebounding, and Post defense*.. *also ignores everything else listed* fun fact Lebron got cheated outta DPOY when it was given to a Center who didnt even make 1st team All defense
@stirlowashingto908
@stirlowashingto908 Год назад
U call 26 6 6 for 20 years just longevity.. smh y’all shleep
@davidpham2764
@davidpham2764 Год назад
Can’t believed perkin even comparing 3s in the 80s and 90s n now lol
@amostlyreasonableguy
@amostlyreasonableguy Год назад
Bron’s scoring is impressive but multiple players are averaging 4 points higher a game than they did last year, because the NBA keeps making it easier for offense.
@jimbrave426
@jimbrave426 Год назад
Exactly
@jillb1420
@jillb1420 Год назад
Sorry, MJ was better on both ends of the court. If you compare on a per game basis on stats, and add in the context of their positions (which takes longevity out of it), MJ was better at almost every stat.
@quentondaniels8536
@quentondaniels8536 Год назад
Facts 🎯
@nathenjayden1788
@nathenjayden1788 Год назад
How Jordan impacted his teammates growth at practice and n the locker room is just something Lebron can’t do. Mentalities are way different.
@MajorDude14
@MajorDude14 Год назад
More like limited them. Some of his teammates were all stars when he was gone.
@hny2396
@hny2396 Год назад
@@MajorDude14 yes, because he helped them become all-stars
@tinomanrique24
@tinomanrique24 Год назад
People always say he had help from Pippen. But it was MJ that brought out the best in Pippen, as well as the likes of Toni Kukoc, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr, John Paxson, etc.
@drewfrazier6768
@drewfrazier6768 12 дней назад
Asking two professional journalists if they know what "synonymous" means is hilarious
@tootrill5622
@tootrill5622 Год назад
😂 now we are basing the debate off of who’s a better 3 point shooter 😂
@ChaseCash.
@ChaseCash. Год назад
Perk perk perk. MJ is the goat 🐐
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Год назад
Lol how it’s supposed to be Jordan day but they keep bringing up Lebron 😂
@ChuckTateD117
@ChuckTateD117 Год назад
That’s ESPN D’ riding Lebron😂😂😂
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 Год назад
@@ChuckTateD117 Right
@bambam23406
@bambam23406 Год назад
Cause it’s not a real day lol
@justinwalker2460
@justinwalker2460 Год назад
I low key feel like it's the other way around. Every time LeBron does something they bring up Jordan.
@groveboytae
@groveboytae Год назад
Because lebron has been a threat to mj legacy since high school 😂
@Themarkusandre
@Themarkusandre 6 месяцев назад
94-97 they shortened the 3pt line from 23.9 to 22ft almost 2 feet so they could shoot better and bring up scoring
@joshloach9016
@joshloach9016 Год назад
This man said he got some J's on his feet but says Bron the goat 🤣🤣🤣
@Sonnel_James
@Sonnel_James Год назад
i love that Perk's argument is that Lebron is more of a team player than MJ when he holds the ball 99.9% of the time everytime he's on the court LOL
@jameslborg
@jameslborg Год назад
Perkins talking up Lerbon just to hyoe up his era. What he said about 2003 was hilarious! 🤣
@sentianprime
@sentianprime Год назад
Tell them Perks tell that dude Steven A from Django with da receding hairline, let him know what time it is. 😱
@RoyallKing629
@RoyallKing629 Год назад
Just because you were able to tackle and elbow people back then. Doesn’t mean anything has changed as far as the physicality - Perk
@raquelwright1607
@raquelwright1607 Год назад
Stephen A is right about MJ being The Goat over Lebron.
@imandark0
@imandark0 Год назад
if throwing punches and tackling doesnt mean being physical then idk what is
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Год назад
That was so ridiculous...
@michaelmaccrazy
@michaelmaccrazy Год назад
The point Perk was making is that there were some elements of physicality back then that never should have been a part of basketball. The league did a poor job at enforcing it during MJs day and is a much better job at weeding it out now. The levels of physicality in the league isnt something Lebron cant control so why is that being held against him? Not a fan of Perk, but that is actually a legit observation on his part.
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Год назад
@@michaelmaccrazy It's not being held against Lebron but on one side we have to put it into context to extract the truth, second we know Lebron doesn't do well against physicality. We saw it a few times in his career.
@michaelmaccrazy
@michaelmaccrazy Год назад
@@TheLionaaa 😂😂😂😂 the former football player doesn’t do well with physicality. Gotcha.
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Год назад
@@michaelmaccrazy I didn't know Lebron was a former football player (when?) but I saw him against a few(what was left from the '90s) physical defenders like Bruce Bowen in NBA finals averaging 22 pts/6 turnovers/36%. I saw him against the Celtics of Garnett, Pierce and Ray Allen...he's not really comfortable and he complains a lot to the refs.
@reysonzarate4917
@reysonzarate4917 Год назад
Back in the day, you can end a career of a player by a foul. But now just a simple shrug and its a flagrant. Longevity was impossible with the way how basketball played at 80's and 90's.And I also like how MJ said that he will played whenever since he wants the people to see he's greatness. For me that attitude settles it all. Mj make sure you get the equivalent amount all the hard money you earned of.
@Don_Winchester
@Don_Winchester Год назад
Let me guess “you would have had to be there” 😂
@kdubb2995
@kdubb2995 Год назад
My top 5: MJ Kareem Magic Bird Kobe I'm 52 and have been watching basketball since the 80's so I'm not commenting on people I've never seen play.
@nostalgiacorner1999
@nostalgiacorner1999 Год назад
True Winners
@stunnerkumah
@stunnerkumah Год назад
Kobe won 3 with Shaq Kareem And magic won together lmao and Mj needed Scottie
@kdubb2995
@kdubb2995 Год назад
@@stunnerkumah Are you trying to make a point?
@almightygoz21
@almightygoz21 Год назад
They need to define what they consider the word “greatest” means. People have different views on the meaning of the word and what criteria to include or exclude.
@leoh6742
@leoh6742 Год назад
I would've had the 92 Finals game with the 6 3's somewhere in my top 5.
@jenjay0167
@jenjay0167 Год назад
Perk out here in these streets talking CRAZY 🤯!!
@tyronejames4187
@tyronejames4187 Год назад
"Just because you was allowed to tackle people and could throw punches back then, that doesn't mean the level of physicality was different." I think you may need to look up what physicality means.
@AfanteMusic
@AfanteMusic Год назад
Perk knows...you see how giddy Perk was during Stephen's A-List!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@justicebediako6181
@justicebediako6181 Год назад
This should be one of Stephen As great delivery speech
@dsteele2332
@dsteele2332 Год назад
I've always said that at this point Jordan is the goat b/c not only does he have the team success, individual accolades, his skillset was just ridiculous, but can we say that another athlete transcends their sport like Jordan? Literally everything is compared to MJ..the mans shoes are as popular as some humans lol..there are other factors as well but just the fact that even people that didn't see him play that much think Jordan when they talk about basketball...I'm not one that just uses that 6-0 in the finals or how many Lebron lost.
@foundationsyth9825
@foundationsyth9825 Год назад
Yeah I think that is because everyone just adores MJ. There have been more dominant and better athletes at their sport since then. We should say the "Tom Brady" of this sport or "The Messi of this sport" or Serena williams.
@christianlaxamana8013
@christianlaxamana8013 Год назад
Perk be like: It's not individual sport. (But kept on highlighting individual accolades LMAO)
@theshow19
@theshow19 Год назад
EsPn Please Fire Perk
@RedEyesRobotics
@RedEyesRobotics Год назад
Imagine saying a conversation is dead and not bringing any points with you 😂😂😂
@mrmvp2323
@mrmvp2323 Год назад
🤣🤣That's these guys logic
@TheMCJ2011
@TheMCJ2011 Год назад
That’s Kendrick Perkins for you 😂😂😂
@Dessertdck
@Dessertdck Год назад
Stephen a know LBJ better. He just gotta hold it down for their era. I understand now.
@honorfirst7506
@honorfirst7506 Год назад
@@Dessertdck a guys better with less accolades, more losing, Lessing winning, but many more years played, and after you lost multiple times, you were allowed to pick your own teams multiple times? 😂 that’s delusional.
@mrmvp2323
@mrmvp2323 Год назад
@@honorfirst7506 they both have a similar win loss record tbh and lebron played more games..that's kinda bad on mj's part. Then you have to look at stats.lebron is just better.what other sport to we discredit stats when it come to choosing the best? Only in basketball do guys keep moving the goal post.lebron doesn't have to win more rings than mj because mj didn't have to win more rings than bill to be considered the goat.
@realbrooklyn7995
@realbrooklyn7995 Год назад
I don't always agree with Steven A but this one I'm with him. The fact is free throws for ridiculous fouls is a big contributor to points scored in a game. I would argue that if they were to remove foul shots from the stats, Lebron scoring title would drop tremendously.
@leeyooo6246
@leeyooo6246 Год назад
lebron averages 7.8 ft attempts while mj averaged 8.2 ft attempts in their career... so ur words does not make sense if u were to undermine lebron...
@user-dd7no7ul1d
@user-dd7no7ul1d Год назад
MJ stayed on the line more than bron, so this point is invalid
@SteveJobIess
@SteveJobIess Год назад
Wth, of course taking away free throws would reduce his overall points scored. Guess what, if you take away his 3 pointers, and two pointers as well, he's scored 0. Basically youre saying, if Lebron didnt score the points hes scored, he wouldnt have as many points as hes scored.
@maxwellbrito6602
@maxwellbrito6602 Год назад
So what would it mean if you counted Lebron’s playoff points?
@realbrooklyn7995
@realbrooklyn7995 Год назад
@@SteveJobIess you are about as dumb as fckn door knob.
@dbrav727
@dbrav727 Год назад
ESPN needs to hire some of these RU-vidrs who explain this debate way more critically and analytically
@fredericfoe2456
@fredericfoe2456 Год назад
I said it once and I'll say it again Sports have that one guy that is just that guy. The same way at cornerback you have Deion Sanders, at golf you have Tiger, basketball is Michael Jordan. The skills + The achievements the sheer domination of his rival in his era. Man MJ did it like no one ever will.
@tex_s_t
@tex_s_t Год назад
It Aint even close I'd rather be 6 for 6 and all the numbers say Jordan on a year to year basis but if you've rather lose more Finals than win pick LeBron. I totally agree with Stephen A.
@k3mistryproductions
@k3mistryproductions Год назад
What's funny is Perk says the NBA/basketball "isn't an individual sport," yet much of his arguments are based on individual stats... Make it make sense? Perk's argument would've been better supported if he spoke on the narrative of LeBron making his team better, carrying less talent to the NBA finals, etc. Something must be said about the eras in which both Jordan and LeBron played, though. Anyways, Happy MJ Day!
@Jbubou
@Jbubou Год назад
#1 when he was on the baseline with 3 players around him he reversed course and dunked on Patrick Ewing
@gerrypiazza8293
@gerrypiazza8293 Год назад
Back in the 60's there was only 2 bands to discuss, The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. The Beatles broke up in 1970 with a career of only 10 years. The Stones are still a band today in 2023 with a career of over 50 years with like triple the amount of albums the Beatles had....... The Beatles are still the superior band.
@danielfountain5215
@danielfountain5215 Год назад
Doesn't matter if lebron is 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th all time, he's a 1 of 1 type basketball player and he's the best ever for our generation, appreciate his greatness while he's still playing cause he may be gone in 2 years so enjoy him while he plays.
@hihihihihello
@hihihihihello Год назад
Jordans better
@Dub257
@Dub257 Год назад
@@hihihihihello you missed the whole point
@SuperKillasin
@SuperKillasin Год назад
That's true, but this is MJ appreciation day not lebron.
@TheLionaaa
@TheLionaaa Год назад
Truth does matter
@hihihihihello
@hihihihihello Год назад
@@Dub257 yeah no, Jordans better, that's the point lol
@StuntmanBeatz313
@StuntmanBeatz313 Год назад
2:05 "this is not an individual sport..." then immediately brought up an individual accolade.. individually (scoring title, dpoy, MVP etc), Jordan accomplish more & team wise (championships), Jordan accomplished more.
@hamadhaider8322
@hamadhaider8322 Год назад
I hate the physicality debate. The talent today is so much better, back then centers couldn’t shoot, didn’t have elite ball handling skills, and you didn’t have to follow them all around the court. The game is way better now talent wise I think that says more than physicality
@jimmydee70deen62
@jimmydee70deen62 Год назад
6 finals with no losess but didnt beat any of the dynastties or until they got old. Celtics, Pistons, lakers
@GL_FAB
@GL_FAB Год назад
Kobe is top 2 🔥🏀💯
@nintendad8168
@nintendad8168 Год назад
i can't believe it's even an argument jordan all day . Clutch
@kenhood7039
@kenhood7039 Год назад
So if Jordan and LeBron played in their prime one on one MJ would win? Yeah right. Look who MJ played in the finals. Clyde Drexler, Byron Scott, the dude from Utah. Which one of them is better than LeBron James?
@nintendad8168
@nintendad8168 Год назад
first off one on one doesn't even matter when comparing a career if that was the case shaq might be them both lol and yes clyde drexler was phenomenal and byron scott was a great role player both solid on defense as well something the league doesn't even play anymore they spread the floor and have the lane wide open . It's a joke
@nintendad8168
@nintendad8168 Год назад
@@kenhood7039 dummest argument ever one on one doesn't even matter so shaq and wilt would be the greatest if they play one on one or maybe even hakeem olajuwon lol it's comparing careers dude and MJ was the greatest 6-0 in finals 3 of those with nobody's go look at the 93 roster bj armstrong , will purdue , bill cartwright , stacy king , only dude was pippen . Lebron goes to miami with wade and bosh then LA with david and westbrook in a no defense era . Also Lebron has 1 scoring title in 20 years to MJ 10 titles in 15 years it's not close bro
@kenhood7039
@kenhood7039 Год назад
@@nintendad8168 it wasn't defense back then either! fouling and pushing people out of the air. Was not defense!! So you can hand check now. Hand check is a foul! It's not defense!! Clyde Drexler, nor any other player back then was LeBron James. No one in the league was 6'9 270 5percent body fat. Point guard. No one even saw it before.. Karl Malone was 6'9 245. Without handles and couldn't jump. And he was the second power forward.
@kenhood7039
@kenhood7039 Год назад
@@nintendad8168 right they had Pippin and Horace Grant
@kellrenegade1407
@kellrenegade1407 Год назад
Watching Stephen A react to this dude acting like he dug up the obscure word synonymous hahaha
@Mlopez856
@Mlopez856 Год назад
He worked on his vocab to find that word🤣🤣🤣 I’m sure we all knew that synonymous in 8th grade
@wendellnip4
@wendellnip4 Год назад
They done gave this man a day and he's still alive😂. Tf..
@Threes2x
@Threes2x Год назад
Why would they wait to he died to show him appreciation he’s the greatest ever
@derrickperry7705
@derrickperry7705 Год назад
You already know why
@avace917
@avace917 Год назад
It's only today because of the date. 2/3/23. If they do the same thing again next year, then that's something different.
@nygmatik2699
@nygmatik2699 Год назад
@@avace917 one more segment’s coming in march… They wi just switch the month and day left to right!😂 2nd of the 3rd month Yr 23
@queuebeats
@queuebeats Год назад
🐐
@rickyorton6634
@rickyorton6634 Год назад
4:14 LeBron James won’t quit basketball because he knows that Michael Jordan is still reigning as the GOAT, so to retire now would just leave LeBron at Number 2 at best. He’s hoping for miracles by just playing more games.
@joseloza2882
@joseloza2882 Год назад
But like all time points is a individual record tho?
@NEO_RedPill_2024
@NEO_RedPill_2024 Год назад
Tell Dan Marino and Jim Kelly that championships don’t affect your legacy. They played a team sport too right?….
@pug6322
@pug6322 Год назад
17:04 i wish he put the jordan shrug somewhere in that list 🤣🤣🤣
@heirrose1606
@heirrose1606 Год назад
Finals 3pt%: Jordan 37% LeBron 35%. "Just because you were allowed to tackle, throw punches doesn't mean it was more physical" lmfao Perk needs more help than new words. Through 15 yrs LeBron shot MORE FTs than Jordan in a softer NBA and made FEWER of those FTs.
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