The difference between the two is Wilt played half his career against the greatest coach of his time. Jordan played half his career for the greatest coach of his time. Wilt went to Kansas believing he would be coached by the greatest college coach of his day, Phog Allen. Jordan did play for Allen's disciple Dean Smith, the greatest coach of his day.
Jordan made some fantastic plays, that looked fantastic. Wilt made fantastic plays, offensively, and defensively, that he made look, at times, like strolls in the park.
@@nonamewillbegiven An insightful, respectful, astute and really bright reply. Made my day. Thanks. Oh yes, because "0r0" is not considered oro. If you want to call somebody a moron, at least spell moron with the correct characters. Whether intentional, or not, it kind of makes the writer look like one.
Love the vid where Wilt shakes Shaq's hand almost pulling his arm out of his socket taking Shaq by surprise, Wilt is still in shape there and looks bigger than Orlando Shaq
It's highly disrespectful for both cases when you're shaking hands : you're not supposed to act like either of them. You're not supposed to look disengaged like Shaquille, but you're not supposed to show your dominance like Wilt, neither. I've shaken Bill Kazmaier's hands, the strongest dude to walk this earth and he never acted that way. Wilt Chamberlain just hated the fact the medias was stating how they had never seen someone as powerful as Shaquille O'Neal. Chamberlain was pissed and wanted to show he was the alpha dog to everyone...
@@rapereggae7961 that’s why that fade got wilt the most impressive playoff numbers and performances of all time and more playoff win shares than bill Russell so yeah it was killin eveything
Russell blocked it several times, imagine how many times Olajuwon and Mutumbo would've blocked it. Not to mention Wilt couldn't shoot the ball to save his life
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 don't forger Russell was a defensive specialist, players were intimidated just to go in the paint, put some respect on that man's name
@@hairjordan2620 I'm not disrespecting Russell, I'm just saying that anything Russell could do, Olajuwon could do and much more! Olajuwon is #9 all time in steals and was blocking 3p shots! Not disrespecting Russell at all, I'm just saying Olajuwon would have no problem defending Wilt
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Just like he had no problem defending Shaq? Shaq and Hakeem played 20 games against each other. Shaq out scored, out rebounded, out passed and out shot Hakeem. Shaq: 22.1/12.4/3.6/54.4% Hakeem: 18.4/ 9.1/2.9/44.7%
@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 SMH Shaq played Hakeem post knee, back and hamstring surgeries the majority of his career and he had the opportunity to get a ring on Olajuwon with the best PG in the league yet couldn't even get 1 win in the Finals! Olajuwon has more career assists, 700 more rebounds, 1,400 more steals, and 1,100 more blocks! And Olajuwon smoked scoring champ Shaq and MVP David Robinson in only 10 games to get his 2nd ring!
Huge stat lines on the night! Both had crazy games!! However Wilt had these games & those crazy numbers almost every time he stepped on the court! Id take Wilt in a game of 1 on 1 to save my life against anybody who ever existed 🐐
@@PoliticusRex632 the guy Wilt played an average of 48 minutes his entire career and players put up video game numbers than. You think that players are just not simply talented enough in future eras to put up these insane numbers like 100 points? NO! Era, pace, minutes matter a lot
Here are a few misconceptions. Wilt couldn't score because his competition got tougher AND he could not score in the playoffs. In the beginning of the 67-68 season, a writer said that Wilt couldn't score anymore. So, in three games he averaged 56 points on 79.3% shooting. He then went back to passing more and shooting less. This was the year he led the league in assists. 12/16/67 30/40/75.0% => 68 points 12/17/67 19/24/79.2% => 47 points 12/20/67 20/23/87.0% => 53 points Wilt was asked to do different things on different teams and by different coaches. Wilt only played 34 out of his 160 playoff games as a volume scorer. BUT, when called upon to score, he did. He has the most points scored in an elimination game and the most points scored in a finals elimination game. The top 3 players with at least 10 elimination games are: Lebron(33.5 ppg), Jordan(31.3 ppg) and Wilt (31.1 ppg). Wilt also had 25.7 rpg in elimination games. 31.1 and 25.7.
I think it would be hard for "fast" jordan to get around quick & strong Wilt with those long arms. I think Wilt would get him low & high. Jordan would have a battle on his hands.
@Truth is Truth! 2022 Phil Jackson picks Bill Russell over MJ take your facts straight buddy you don’t know anything about basketball Celtics would whooped Bulls ass.
Nobody has ever averaged more rebounds per game, OR more points per game, than what Wilt averaged in his ROOKIE SEASON. Totally insane. Wilt is the only player to ever break either of those records. Wilt was the best basketball player in the world before his first NBA game. He was putting up absolutely insane numbers from his very first season. Michael Jordan's best season PPG is still worse than Wilt's rookie season.
Yeah that's easy to do in an 8 team league where you're the only giant that had a little skill! The top 8 teams of the 90's would annihilate every team in the league in Wilts era
And finals yeah, what's Wilt's best PPG in the finals? But sure man let's compare rookie seasons when Wilt was averaging 32 FGA and 14 FTA per game, damn he'd want to average 37ppg... not to forget Wilt got swept by a WORSE team as well in his 2nd or 3rd season so he might have been putting up big numbers (verse bad teams) but he wasn't winning
@@bobbyd1632 Problem with you're theory is that Wilt's role changed for team success. CHIPs are a TEAM accomplishment not an individual. Also on those CHIP teams Wilt wasn't even the first option while MJ was the first option his entire NBA career
@@grosskopf2779 chips are team accomplishments yes, and champion teams need LEADERS! So it's still very relevant that Wilt did not WIN at the same level as MJ, Wilt won twice (out of 6 finals) and he was his chip teams best player only one time... MJ was the best and his teams leaders 6 times out of 6 chips, that matters You say Wilt wasn't even "the first option" so what, how's that MJ's fault in this debate? Besides that they still lost, Wilt played what 13 seasons so imagine how stacked his Lakers were with Jerry etc. for Wilt to be the second option and they still lost to a worse team led by an older Bill
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Sigh, another myth that some bozo put out there and no one bother to research for themselves. Second you don't know that. Why? Let's give those players in Wilts era that same access to the technology that the 90s had,(shoes, nutrition, a weight coach, conditioning, Conditioning tools) As far as being the only giant Here's a list of a couple of so called non giants in Wilt's era and a list of their ethinicity so there's no one sided arguement: Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" HOF NBA BLACK Dennis Awtrey: 6'11" NBA WHITE Walt Bellamy: 6'11" HOF NBA BLACK Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0" NBA WHITE Nate Bowmen: 6'11" NBA/ABA BLACK Mel Counts: 7'0" NBA WHITE Walter Dukes: 7'0" NBA BLACK Jim Eakins: 6'11" ABA WHITE Ray Felix: 6'11" NBA BLACK Hank Finkel: 7'0" NBA WHITE Artis Gilmore: 7'2" HOF ABA/NBA BLACK Swede Halbrook: 7'3" NBA WHITE Reggie Harding: 7'0" NBA/ABA BLACK Bob Lanier: 6'11" HOF NBA BLACK Jim McDaniels: 6'11" ABA/NBA BLACK Otto Moore: 6'11" NBA BLACK Dave Newmark: 7'0" NBA/ABA WHITE Rich Niemann: 7'0" NBA/ABA WHITE Billy Paultz: 6'11" ABA WHITE Craig Raymond: 6'11" NBA/ABA WHITE Elmore Smith: 7'0" NBA BLACK Chuck Share: 6'11" NBA WHITE Ronald Taylor: 7'1" ABA WHITE Nate Thurmond: 6'11" HOF BLACK Walt Wesley: 6'11" NBA BLACK TOM PAYNE 7'2 " NBA BLACK GREG FILLMORE 7'1 NBA BLACK CRAIG SPITZER 7'0 NBA WHITE LARUE MARTIN 6'11 NBA BLACK VIC BARTOLOME 7'0 NBA WHITE GEORGE JOHNSON 6'11 NBA BLACK WILLIAM SMITH 7'0 NBA WHITE LARRY BUNCE 7'0 ABA WHITE JOHN SMITH 7'0 ABA BLACK
the way both legend talk there something they need to settle, what amaze me MJ react not like other modern super stars who almost react like a kid by meeting MJ,while Wilt is kind of superior force
when they ended up talking they were arguing over who is the greatest player ever, wilt told michael the nba changed the rules so you could dominate they changed the rules to stop me from dominating so i dont think it's fair that you can consider yourself the greatest ever. even former nba refs admitted the nba told refs to not call fouls on jordan during his second dynasty run so he could score more which is also an advantage in favour of jordan
@@thebuilder2018 about Wilt I know about their arguing stuff Wilt but in a sense there was shaq and other bigman like Olajuwon, also MJ have batting against Jordan rules actually The bad boy is one of the badest or most badest team most hated team in history ever in terms of physical which the rules change more drastic other people change because to favour MJ, but there was a trivia that more than 100 teeth found in court each season, if Wilt can't dominate the rules because of the rules but why MJ play well still in 80s where bigman is still there as a Midrange hall of famer not 3s outside. Actually the old rules are really favour to bigman back then that's the original but because of brutal style of bad boy change everything that's why I don't judge both MJ and Wilt. it's more easy to judge the modern basketball where the big man is extinct by rules to day of 3s
"Analysts" always try to down grade Wilt's 1962 season by saying he wasn't efficient. Well, there's an adjusted shooting analytic called FG ADD(points added) which uses volume AND efficiency. The best season is Wilt's 1967 season. The second best id Wilt's 1962 season. All those shots and it is considered the second most efficient season ever by FG ADD. Anyway, Wilt has 7 of the Top 10 seasons and 11 of the Top 23 seasons.
wilt all the day he's basically the best scorer,best passing center,best interior defender,best rebounder, one of the most efficient players and had the best durability, and basically he's the best to ever play this game
yep mj couldn’t win until they added expansion teams and he was getting his ass whooped by the celtics and other 80’s teams. no way he would last going against the 60 celtics
@@catcountry0099 never actually he never got outrebounded by bill or outscored. also never was the passer wilt was in the playoffs when he did become a passer. how much times did mj try to play team ball in the playoffs? that’s why his ass was getting swept so much because he just wanted to play 1v1 ball
Actually, Jordan faced a better team in this game to his credit. We do have some footage of Wilt career high against Russell though and you can't get any better than that! As always, thanks for your work!
@@FoobasSports Indeed, when you have these performances next to each other, you can appreciate how good both were and that all these (real) differences between eras are not nearly as big as many think. Thank you again!
People throw out a lot of awards in debates, like Defensive Player Awards, All NBA teams etc. not realizing none of those awards existed in Wilt or Russell era. Blocks and Steals weren't recorded. Also the MVP award didn't go to the best player usually, b/c during Wilt ridiculous year's, like the 50ppg year, he didn't win MVP.
In real terms wilt chamberlain is an individual 'door stop' to any other individual player that ever played in the nba, many era's of nba history have failed to come close to his factual physical deeds on the court, all other players trying to walk through the goat door have a 7 foot 2 inch player standing in the way both hypothetically and statistically wilt chamberlain!
The closest player to MJ in Wilts era was perhaps Elgin Baylor and he never came close to Wilts first several years in scoring or defensive play, he was a great player but he was playing against Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond these centres would reduce the scoring of any player, that includes a prime MJ if he was transfered to Wilts era! Finally if you took Wilts physical abilities & skills into MJ era or any era he would almost certainly be first pick, in Wilts era the Boston Celtics coach 'Red' wanted Wilt to play with the Boston celtics, the first super teams manager wanted him. He declined but in other era's the manager would go out of their way to pick a 7 foot 2 inch centre who was fast, athletic with of the charts stamina, then add his fade-away, hook-shot and unstoppable talent for dunking on anyone, something he was limited by his era's unspoken rules. Wilt at 43 was dismantling future legendary nba players like 'Magic' or nba players because they thought he was retired and no longer a force, well he dismantled them and someone once said, "the best player he saw at a pick-up games was a retired Wilt Chamberlain at 50!"
Wilt was ceetainly that great..but dont forget the centres mj had to go against..big and skilled..olajuwon..robinson..shaq..zo..dikembe..ewing etc...the 99s were the peak of centres...
@@ronm3945 you didn't understand my comment, if you played mj in wilts era the best he could be would be a Elgin Baylor in style and never win a championship despite his talent. While you could reverse that and place wilt in Jordan's era and he would be prolific in scoring and defence, you could argue that all the centres in Wilts era would do well in Jordens era, have you looked at Bill Russell, or Nate Thurmond, Kareem. The players you mentioned in jordens era transferred to wilts era wouldn't be in any team in the then nba because they wouldn't be anyplace but in the stands. In real terms wilt chamberlain is an individual 'door stop' to any other individual player that ever played in the nba, many era's of nba history have failed to come close to his factual physical deeds on the court, all other players trying to walk through the goat door have a 7 foot 2 inch player standing in the way both hypothetical and statistically wilt chamberlain!
MJ was during the time of the NBA renaissance. When I was a kid, nothing seemed larger than the NBA. And yes, MJ has earned his title by most as the GOAT, but I do feel others like Wilt are severely underrated. No need to place Chamberlain in MJ’s shadow (I feel the same when comparing Kareem to MJ.) Let them all be celebrated. Marketing of NBA in the 90s certainly helped Jordan.
Wilt is the greatest individual regular player ever. He dominated the 60s. But when look at who dominated the regular season, playoffs and finals for a whole decade. It's only one player comes up and that's Michael Jordan.
Jordan played against Drexler ONCE in the payoffs. He played against an NBA75 player at his own position one out of 37 playoff series. This is who Wilt played against in 29 series. Russell(8), Kareem(2), Thurmond(NBA75)(3), Reed(NBA75)(3) and Bellamy and other HOFers(4). Bellamy is close but not quite NBA75 talent wise. So, Wilt played 17/29 series against beyond legit centers.
Every one going on about competition is way off base. Jordan played against Drexler ONCE in the payoffs. He played against an NBA75 player at his own position one out of 37 playoff series. This is who Wilt played against in 29 series. Russell(8), Kareem(2), Thurmond(NBA75)(3), Reed(NBA75)(3) and Bellamy and other HOFers(4). Bellamy is close but not quite NBA75 talent wise. So, Wilt played 17/29 series against beyond legit centers.
The one thing you didn't see in this or any video is Wilt sitting and resting! Everybody thinks Jordan would score at will against Wilt. The only way Jordan would score would be from outside, never in the paint!
I saw both players play.. when I was teen I used to watch the Philadelphia Warriors games with my dad.. I understand why younger generations would get instantly triggered when some people thunk Wilt will destroy Mike at least in a 1V1 match because they only saw Mike played and not Wilt.. During Wilts first 7 seasons when was still scoring Wilt didn't play like a center at all. He was like a 7 foot guard always running around similar to what Stephen Curry is doing now and during this spand of time no other player in the league that can outrun Wilt including Jerry West which is known for his speed and Agilty.. So if you put prime Wilt vs Prime MJ, mike would only have a little chance of beating Wilt.. Wilt is too big and fast for mike even Jerry West and Elgin Baylor wouldn't carelessly went for a layup when going against Wilt back in the days
@Truth is Truth! 2022 Finals MVP was introduced 1969 when he was already 32 and he still got one. c'mon. If you count that, we should count that he had 0 turnovers for career too. Also if you want to compare free throw percentage of Center and Guards, then let us discuss FG%, rebounds and blocks per game too please. 4 of those finals you mentioned were played with the lakers, when he was 32 years or older and beyond his prime and was asked by the coach to focus on defense. You are cherry picking stats w/o background. Watch his first 7 years. Nobody except Wilt Chamberlain ever recorded a 30-20 season - Wilt did it for career. 30-20 games: Wilt: 128; rest of entire league any era combined: 19 50-25 games: Wilt: 68; rest of entire league any era combined: 7 60 point games: Wilt: 32; 2nd rank: Kobe: 6; Jordan: 4. Jordan has 31 50 point games for career, Kobe has 25. Wilt has 118 for career and 45 in a single season. Consecutive games with 40 points average: Wilt: 515; 2nd in list: Elgin Baylor: 33 He did 15 blocks in the 2nd half of a single game (full video footage christmas game vs suns, total of 23 blocks). He grabbed 55 rebounds in a single game w/o overtime vs the 2nd best rebounder of all times Bill Russel (both played whole 48 min). He averaged 48.5 min a season playing every single minute. He averaged 45.8 minutes per game for career and never got fouled out. Wilt carried mediocre teams vs Celtics 4 times to game 7 and lost them all by 9 points combined. On the other hand, MJ w/o Pippen and Jackson was swept by Larry Bird and the celtics twice. MJ is 0-6 vs Larry Legend. Teams win championships, not individuals. I can tell you a list Wilt is for sure number one: record holder in the books. "Keep in mind Michael: They changed the rules to make it harder for me to dominate and they changed the rules to make it easier for you" - Wilt Chamberlain. "They always say that about Michael, they always say that about other players, but there will never ever be another Wilt Chamberlain." - Magic Johnson.
@Truth is Truth! 2022 Let's say Jordan hadn't Pippen and Jackson - now he has 0 rings, okay? Robert Horry has 7 rings with 3 different teams, never lost in finals. Why isn't he even in the PF GOAT discussion, but Barkley with 0 championships is? Because Teams win championships, not individuals. If it is about rings, I know a player in Wilts era who has more rings than fingers, and you wonder why Wilt coudn't won more rings. He had to face the most overpowered team with the best coach of that era (8 consecutive champioships celtics) - on the other hand, Jordan was part of the most overpowered team and had the best coach of that era (double threepeat Bulls). Wilt himself dominated Bill Russel nearly every game.
Something MJ never had to put up with to any extent hard fouls by teams! "Boston Celtics forward Tom Heinsohn said his team ruthlessly exploited his only weakness, free throw shooting, with an early version of the "Hack-a-Shaq" (a tactic in which a poor free throw shooter is intentionally fouled, in the hope that he misses free throws and the team gets an easy ball possession without giving up many points). "Half the fouls against him were hard fouls," Heinsohn continued, "he [Chamberlain] took the most brutal pounding of any player ever." Chamberlain refrained from retaliating, and preferred to play through the many fouls." "The most brutal pounding!" A normal night on the basketball court for Wilt? The nba was so concerned that wilts athleticism and skills would destroy basketball they let him down by telling the referees to have a different rule against Wilt Chamberlain, that's the only time in nba history that this occurred, it never happened to any other player. It was the equivalent of a boxing match that allowed one player to hit below the belt a remarkable act of injustice!
Jordan was good but wasn't a factor until the teams he couldn't beat weren't there anymore.... And got help to be the marketing poster boy for the NBA....from refs etc.... While wilt.... He did all that shit in some converses
@@bobbyd1632 Teams lose games, ffs. Jordan won ONE playoff game in 5 years without Pippen. They won the finals because they had the best teams in those finals. Jordan didn't WIN those finals. The Bulls did. Did he suck in his first and last seasons? No, he didn't. But using your logic, he did.
The irony with this is that Larry Bird himself referred to Jordan as "God disguised as Michael Jordan." Jordan put up 63 by himself on a Prime Boston Celtics Championship Team (Prime Larry Bird, Prime Kevin McHale, and Robert Parish *Big Three*) in Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and 49 points in the previous Game. Jordan was drafted in '84 and accomplished this feat in '86. I don't think is any other other player in history, even Wilt himself, can accomplish that feat against a team of that Caliber being in the league that fresh. That team went on to win the Championship that year.
Wilt still would be dropping 50 points on Bill Cartwright and Will Perdue all day and Mike would've been crush if he goes into the paint. And I'm talking about 53 old Wilt when he still got offers from NBA teams.
@@FoobasSports Thanks, love your videos aswell, your channel is one of the best on Wilt's footage of course with @70sFan and @Wilt Chamberlain archive.
IN MY OPINION IF JORDAN OR IF WILT OR IF THAY HAD ONE ANOTHER IN THE 90S OR ANY ERA....I THINK......NOW WE DONT HAVE A TIME MACHINE....BUT IF THAY WERE ON THE SAME TEAM THAY WILL WIN 7 RINGS POSSIBLY MORE.....AND RED AURBACH OR PHIL JACKSON COACHING THEM.....
The difference between me who is the player whom the media told you to like.... Vs the player people spoke myths off..the NBA having to change rules to stop.the globe trodder over the shoe salean any day.
the funniest shit is seeing Wilt's teammates about to score then he just steals the points slapping it in lol funniest was 3:05 the dude was gunna net that and Chamberlain tried stealin it just to miss at first loooool
Chamberlain fue uno delos grandes delahistoria sin dudar no hay discusion Pero por favor hay leyendas mejores que el El mismo russell olajuwon sahq robinson Abdul jabar Ya no digamos jordan o el magic
Just stop it!!! Yiu can't compare a guard to a center. Ever. Centers are a just different. As a whole they have more rings, points, rebounds, and accolades
you can even see it in the video. how in almost all of the wilt highlights here wilt had people pracitcally hangin on him and on most of jodan's shots he was barely touched. jordan rules made it easier fo rhim to scre. why? if you did wht they did to wilt agains jordan they would have fouled you out every time
Wilt say that when Jordan play the nba change the rules to make it easier for MJ to play.. but when Wilt was playing the NBA change the rules so that it would be harder for Wilt to dominate
@@justinkynegranger8701 it is true. and i don't even need to rely on wilt's comments. in teh 60s they made 7 rule changes to slow wilt down and he still dominated. as a piston fan. i saw how they made teh Jordanrules which mae so you cold not even breathe on the guy
To me the biggest “Elephant in the room” is the level of defenders that they had to face. Guys like MJ, Bird, Kobe faced tough tough defenders. Wilt faced Russell a few times a season and a bunch of stiffs.
I guess Nate Thurmond, Willis Reed, Zelmo Beaty, Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, Elvin Hayes, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were all stiffs... Not to mention lesser known defensive specialists you probably have never heard about like Walter Dukes, Gene Wiley or Clyde Lee.
This is not even a conversation. It has been MJ vs LeBron, and here y’all go trying to sneak this one through the backdoor. 😂😡NO DICE! A failed Western Conference campaign has not only eliminated LeBron from the conversation, but has tarnished his legacy. Too many tank Bill Russell over Wilt Chamberlain to have the audacity to include Wilt in the conversation with Michael freakin’ Jordan. You can say that Wilt was the better scorer, even though MJ has more overall points and has the highest average ever (with Wilt Chamberlain underneath Michael Jordan at number 2), but Wilt was 7’0” tall. Speaking of 7’0” tall, again too many people throughout history ranked, ranks, and will rank Kareem Abdul-Jabar over Wilt Chamberlain TO HAVE THE AUDACITY to try and squeeze Wilt into the Goat conversation with the Goat of goats aka Michael Jeffrey Jordan. I suspect that now that LeBron James has officially fallen out of the argument, you guys will desperately try to prolong the Goat debate by throwing these hail marys like Kareem, Wilt, and Bill. It’s all comical at this point. Anybody with two eyes and at least half a brain can tell that the sky is blue in the daytime AND that Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the greatest NBA player and the greatest basketball player who ever lived. The only reason that a little boy or GIRL picks up a basketball at anytime from birth to elementary school, to middle high school, high school, college, and even early adulthood is because of MJ and everybody’s mystical desire to still (after all of these decades) to be like Mike. 🤷♂️ (1992 Game 1 shoulder shrug on ya). 😂
Mj had the hardest competion bar none. ...80s 90s 00s were the golden era of badketball. Wilt is fantsstic but the game was still evolving and 8 teams..
Jordan played against Drexler ONCE in the payoffs. He played against an NBA75 player at his own position one out of 37 playoff series. This is who Wilt played against in 29 series. Russell(8), Kareem(2), Thurmond(NBA75)(3), Reed(NBA75)(3) and Bellamy and other HOFers(4). Bellamy is close but not quite NBA75 talent wise. So, Wilt played 17/29 series against beyond legit centers.
@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 and his team mostly lost...position wise you may be correct...but ovetall the teams and talent level jordan had to go through in the playoffs and finals were deeper and better...and dont kid yourself jordan often had to play against a whole team especially in younger years where the supporting cast was less then average
and look at the video theres 1-3 guys hanging off wilt chamberlain this happened nearly every game the nba allowed this coz wilt was so dominating when the pistons bullied jordan the nba came in and created the rule "jordan rules" where youd get fouled for breathing on him
@@thebuilder2018 fckn hell the jordan rules were created by coacj daly to stop jordan from driving anyway possible...learn spme facts b4 you start sprouting off
It’s like a Wilt cult in here. There’s no way we’re watching the same highlights. Rim grazing dunks with someone saying he got a 54 inch vertical. That ugly ass fadeaway and layup. Like come on
