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Michelin Pilot Sport 4S vs Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 - In Depth Review! 

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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
A huge thanks to Honda and Fitment Industries. You can check out Fitment Industries here: www.fitmentindustries.com/?ambassador=tyrereviews Make sure you subscribe for more tests like these in the near future!
@benw1620
@benw1620 Год назад
Great review! Did you notice differences in tramlining between the two tires? I found the original ExtremeContact Sport did so more than I would like.
@silentnode946
@silentnode946 Год назад
Cool x-over, I enjoy content from Fitment Industries as well!
@remiltonsilveira7314
@remiltonsilveira7314 Год назад
Man... The fitment website is offline... Tell them to check it out
@b.mensah9624
@b.mensah9624 15 дней назад
Do a test and review on Triangle Effexsport TH202
@Ficon
@Ficon Год назад
Can we just appreciate how bananas it is that PS4S remains dominant all these years later? Thank you for another outstanding analysis.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
It really is impressive!
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 Год назад
Those Frenchie's have some kind of magic formula I think... recently replaced the PS4 (not the S as this is my daily driver) I had with the PS5 - I thought the PS4 was pretty unbeatable for a UHP road tyre - but the PS5 is actually noticeably better - and supposedly it has a longer life (only done 1000km on them so far so don't know how true that is)
@robertf9521
@robertf9521 Год назад
Really in-depth review! I’m a fitment customer and Elantra N owner and had to set up some 18” for every day driving as road conditions are horrible where I live. Price will more than likely influence any track setup as I won’t be competing and no sponsorship!
@furtivedig
@furtivedig Год назад
I suppose it has something to do with how tyres get updated over the years.
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 Год назад
They now have a PS5S, I think it’s on the new DB12. Should be a year or so and they’ll have their new and improved PS5S out in other sizes to compete.
@Promit
@Promit Год назад
I was literally, no joke, googling for a comparison of these tires two hours ago and bemoaning that nobody seems to have done a decent test of the ECS 02. THANK YOU!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
:D hope it was useful
@rawbeejay
@rawbeejay 4 месяца назад
Which did you pick?
@OxBlitzkriegxO
@OxBlitzkriegxO Год назад
probably one of the most important tire reviews that has ever been done, ever. thank you for this review.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@Vo0Do0972
@Vo0Do0972 Год назад
Please never stop these comparisons and reviews
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I'll try :)
@TedTedness-wu4vb
@TedTedness-wu4vb Год назад
Shout out for Fitment Industries for their support!!! This channel is so so important for tire buyer data.
@Wised1000
@Wised1000 Год назад
I own them both. For road use they are both superb. Superb handling with very civilized ride and noise chracteristics. They should be since they are also superbly expensive and the top rated summer tire for each brand. I had to replace one of the rear Contis on my GLS 580. When I saw the price of the 305, I almost wept😂
@Malficion
@Malficion Год назад
I used to run ECS 265/35R19, 305/30R19. Then I saw the 02 prices. You know what, I'm not really in the position to autocross this year... 245/40R19, 265/35R19. 😂
@robertolesnica4569
@robertolesnica4569 9 месяцев назад
Za niedługo kupimy chińczyka za 20% ceny równie dobrego :)
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 Год назад
Thanks for clearing the difference up between the SC7 and the ES02! As a European I bought the SC7 over the PS4s because it was 30% cheaper! Saved myself 200 bucks and I'm quite happy with them cause there's a ton of grip and they look brand new even after 5'000km. Interesting to see the US version in comparison
@daveyofyeshua
@daveyofyeshua Год назад
I have the SC6 and will hopefully be moving in the the SC7 when the time comes
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 Год назад
Had to replace tires on my 911 last fall, wanted something around 200-220TW, really was hoping they’d get the SC7 to us in time but I ended up going with the new Sport Cup 2 Connect (240 TW), and while I’ve been very happy with the new SC2C, I’m still hoping the SC7 is sold here by the time I need new tires again next year.
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 Год назад
@@joeracer302 SC7 is also 240tw (usually for conti) however they seem to last longer than the PS4s, a TW300 tire.
@m0LN4r
@m0LN4r Год назад
me too, very good tyre for mixed use
@AB-80X
@AB-80X Год назад
@@v12-s65 It is almost impossible to use tread wear ratings for anything across different manufactures. Look at it this way. A Cup 2 is 180, by comparison a PZ4C is 80. Yet the PZ4C is comparable to the Cup 2 Sport 240. During this summer I have done some track days and road trips on the SC7 and so far, it outperforms the MPS4S all across the board including wear. While it is a real road tyre, it has a much larger temperature operating wiondow than the 4S. The 4S is pretty much done at 50*C and thereafter it falls apart. By comparison, a Cup 2 only starts to come alive after 45-50*C and run into the high 70's to low 80's. The SC7 has the cold and wet weather properties of the 4S, but its temperature range goes well into the high 60's. It will obviously not grip like a hot Cup 2, but it will demolish a 4S in short order. This is the party trick of the SC7, its temperature range. Brilliant for road cars that see both wet and dry track days in situations where a good time is more important than actual lap times. That said, it is not that far behind a Cup 2 on a track like Spa or Paul Ricard. The MPS4S was never a good track tyre and it was never designed for the track. And compared to the SC6, it is an absolute game changer.
@mattmiller3673
@mattmiller3673 Год назад
A lot of us are using one or the other of these tires as "rain tires" in autocross and time trial competition that requires 200tw tires (i.e. no dedicated track tires) because they are so good in the rain. I would love to see a comparison of them on a wet track, including their respective hydroplane resistance. Love your reviews! Thanks.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I've seen a lot of people using them, the Conti gets used as a rain tire in some series too.
@imistimed6901
@imistimed6901 Год назад
I ran the Michelin PS4S a few years ago during a track day and it did superbly well at UMC during ISS in super hot weather. Had good turn in then some mush but once it dug in and I pushed it through it was awesome! 30k miles later and they're still super good letting me dig the car in through corners. But now I've got a new option to consider with this new Continental 👀. But then again a full race tire is also competing to be the replacement
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad we found the same!
@peterknight6791
@peterknight6791 Год назад
I too have been waiting for this test. Just recently swapped from 4s's to the Conti 02's and have not been disappointed with my decision. Running 245/35-19 on my golf R and like any space I can get in the wheel wells. 02 seams a bit quieter on paved roads. Mid turn I can understand the vague feel comment but once hooked to finish the turn, I feel the Conti has a bit more positive bite which helps my car feel neutral in the turns with a bit less push. Braking seams as strong with the Conti's as the 4s's and have yet to get too much aggressive driving in the rain- Thinking the slightly wider grooves on the Conti's may inspire a little more confidence against hydroplaning but we shall see. Love your test's and I completely agree that if for nothing more than the cost alone, they are well worth the gamble!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad we found the same things, please stick your review on www.tire-reviews.com/submit.htm?match=Continental-ExtremeContact-Sport-02---Tire-Reviews-and-Tests if you get some time :)
@spsp6345
@spsp6345 6 месяцев назад
I am going to be installing the extreme sport contact 02 on my Golf R next month, I think these tires will be a good fit for mostly road/highway driving with the occasional spirited driving. How have they been for you on your Golf R
@eboucher19682103
@eboucher19682103 Год назад
Got some continental extremesport02 on my 996 C2 and I love them ! Smooth, precise very good grip on Dry and Wet, great on braking. Will buy them again.
@MatthewFerrell
@MatthewFerrell Год назад
What tires did you have before? I currently have a set of PS2 N3s on my 996 and have ordered a set of the ECS 02.
@eboucher19682103
@eboucher19682103 Год назад
@@MatthewFerrell Pirelli PZero Rosso
@thegirthquake8574
@thegirthquake8574 Год назад
Thank you for taking my request! I've cross-shopped these tires forever and never found a real comparison!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Hope you like it!
@thegirthquake8574
@thegirthquake8574 Год назад
@@tyrereviews It was fantastic! I'm interesting in seeing what people say about longevity with both tires, as my OE P4's on my car wore out in less than 20k miles of road driving.
@timw2083
@timw2083 6 месяцев назад
​@@thegirthquake8574what did you end up getting
@thegirthquake8574
@thegirthquake8574 6 месяцев назад
@@timw2083 Nothing yet, I'm still using my DWS06+'s as they had a ton of life on them. I'm probably gonna go Conti again though!
@Roddy451
@Roddy451 Год назад
I've had the 4S for about 5 months now. I've had to get used to the first few moments at the initial part of the turn where the tire has "to get settled". The first time this happened, it caught me off guard, and I felt that I was going to understeer badly, but it was not the case. Once at the limit, the tire tends to understeer (2018 Focus ST Mk. 3.5). But it is quite safe at the limit. Kudos to both manufacturers for engineering great performance tires. Another enjoyable, great review for tire freaks... like me. 👍👍👈 P.S. Because of this channel, my cars are fitted with Kumho, Michelin (4S & XClimate 2), Continental, & Bridgestone. Happy? Very much so!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad you're finding it useful :)
@solodolo2896
@solodolo2896 Год назад
Can we just appreciate that for the money, Continental has given us the ultimate 300 treadwear tire!
@alexmaclean1
@alexmaclean1 Год назад
Continental has really grown so much in the last few years. I usually try to stick with either a new design or at least one that moves fast because around here if you try to buy a set of anything that isn't extremely popular they roll you out a set of tires made 5 years ago that has sat stacked for the last few years in a warehouse lol
@iwillnoteatzebugs
@iwillnoteatzebugs 10 месяцев назад
I refuse anything with a DOT older than 6 months .
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 Год назад
Thanks Jon for the invaluable information you give us about these tires. Your preferences are closely aligned with mine, and I think for many others, and so your input informs us so well in the tire choices we make. Keep up the good work.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad you find it useful :)
@ericdraven7857
@ericdraven7857 Год назад
I had continental tires on a Mercedes c300 years ago and I loved it. The drive improved greatly to what was on it at the time.
@bira896
@bira896 Год назад
I have the Continentals on my Mustang and love them. Great grip in the dry and wet!
@turbotrana
@turbotrana Год назад
Thanks for your great reviews. For me, sidewall stiffness is important for one reason.Flatspotting. I can let my R35 sit on the OEM runflat Dunlops with very hard sidewalls for months and no flatspotting. On Bridgestone RE003, with very soft sidewalls, it will pitter patter overnight everytime untill it warms up. Soft sidewalls also mess up the balance. When you balance the tyre after the car has been sitting an hour you will see the flatspot. On the hand the very old Bridgestone s001 non run flats have very hard sidewalls, never flatspotted and balance always good from cold
@IDGAF732
@IDGAF732 21 день назад
But also a rough ride. And very expensive to replace. Many people I know had more flats with run flats than regular tires believe it or not. Atleast one can be repaired
@henrycervantezzz5566
@henrycervantezzz5566 4 месяца назад
Just put 19 inch conti 02 on my Audi S4. They are beasts and the price difference makes conti the clear winner for me. Great video btw.
@_chanimal_
@_chanimal_ Год назад
There have been a lot of afternoon monsoon type storms here in Utah lately. They come out of nowhere, dump a lot of rain, and then dissipate all within an hour. Come out to UMP again when you get a chance, its an awesome track.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
We ran the east circuit, really enjoyed it. I live in SLC now so I'll be there a lot going forward!
@_chanimal_
@_chanimal_ Год назад
@@tyrereviews Right on! Hope to see you up there sometime! I just picked up a GR Corolla so I'll be doing the Alpine Loop and a few track days at UMC as often as I can get up there
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
@@_chanimal_ I've not driven that loop yet, I've been using the emigration canyon for a beautiful filming spot!
@acerimmer8338
@acerimmer8338 Год назад
It's been a whacky spring/summer.
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- Год назад
+1 .. Another inspiring Michelin PS 4S challenge... The competition is getting close in many of the performance tire metrics.... Shoulda Coulda Woulda after 6 years (4S) on the market. .. An informative performance tire review. .. Danke! .. Cheers, Vail, Colorado
@gabeh7373
@gabeh7373 Год назад
I was just comparing these two tires online and there wasn't too much out there on a comparison and then this morning I woke up in this popped up 😎.... Good timing you answered all my questions. I think I'm going to spring for the Continentals this time and see how they do considering the 4S successor isn't out yet Thx!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Let me know how you like them :D
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 11 месяцев назад
Im on my second set of the PS4S in 43,000 miles after steering clear of Michelin for two decades. I'm glad my tire shop, former track buddies, and Jon convinced me to try them. Not disappointed at all.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast Год назад
It really seems like performance tires of today have become so good that it really comes down to price for which one you pick. I had to choose between the Pilot Sport 4S, Conti Sport 02, and the Pirelli PZ4. Most people would automatically exclude the PZ4 because it is an older tire now. However, the PZ4 was 10%-20% less expensive than the others and it actually offers fairly similar performance for normal road use.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I'm sure there's been an update rolled into it silently which improved it a lot in the wet too.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast Год назад
@@tyrereviews good point. I honestly like these Pirelli PZ4 tires as much as the PS4S tires they replaced. They were $300 less expensive too.
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 Год назад
@@LearningFast yep the PZ4 can be the cheapest depending on the size and there are 2 versions for either luxury or sportiness. I had it on my suv and they were really good to be honest, for a normal car they are absolutely fine. You don't race in the rain and in the dry they offer plenty of grip. A lot of people tend to hate on them for no reason
@nasa444444
@nasa444444 Год назад
Actually bought the PZ4. It’s a fun tire. But had the rears burn out in just one summer which was pretty disappointing. Price difference taken into account. It’s still cheaper to get the Michelin or Continental. They will definitely last 2 seasons unlike the PZ4s
@r.d.9399
@r.d.9399 Год назад
Most of them are extremely overpriced and overrated
@ItsJanHi
@ItsJanHi Месяц назад
I got 60K miles on my Michelin PS4S, rotated every 5K at 35 PSI. Grip was out of this world, but after 45K miles, wet grip starts to dwindle and noise starts to creep in. At 60K miles, you'll start to hear rumbling tire noise which is the reason I have to buy new tires. I got twice the mileage warranty on my set, will buy again when the economy is right.
@shenava
@shenava Год назад
I think the fact the Conti has failed to move things on from the 6 year old 4S is probably a win for the new S5, when we eventually see it available to the aftermarket.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Maybe that's why the aftermarket S5 is delayed so much, because it's really hard to do any better!
@juggie19
@juggie19 13 дней назад
I was researching tires pre pandemic and saw the Pilot Sport 4s. I parked my car for 4 years and started desearching again and suroised to see the same ps4s still a top pick
@niikon
@niikon Год назад
You are a machine Jonathan! I am always amazed by your consistent lap times, great stuff man! Too bad none of the tires are available for my 17“ OEM S2000 wheels in Europe, either way, thank you for your always awesome vids!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Thanks!
@Earl_VTEC
@Earl_VTEC Год назад
which tyre size do you use at your OEM S2000 wheels?
@niikon
@niikon Год назад
@@Earl_VTEC I‘d like to use 225/45 R17 and 255/40 R17 but had to settle for 225/45 R17 and 245/40 R17 since Bridgestone doesn‘t offer the Potenza Sport in 255/40 R17 ☹️
@emmamitchell1582
@emmamitchell1582 Год назад
It would be great to have a tag in the title for the applicable regions. So the title could start (or end) with [EU] [US] etc in various combinations. So this video would be tagged [US]. These tags get even more important when tires are named the same across regions but have different characteristics and compounds.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I agree, however it would cripple the video if half the channel didn't click through, youtube would assume it's a bad video so not promote it. It's a no win situation for me currently :(
@emmamitchell1582
@emmamitchell1582 Год назад
@@tyrereviews true, that would be bad. Thanks for explaining!
@AhsanU
@AhsanU Год назад
Was waiting for this - thank you Jon! Even though Continental has matched the MPS4S overall, it just means they're behind again as Michelin has already announced the MPSS5's which will undoubtedly be better given their compound and the information we have already. I'd be very curious to see how the MPSS5 stacks up vs. the Continental SC7's though.. such a shame that we don't get the SC7's here in the USA. As usual, excellent video
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
The SC7 is available in a few sizes in the US!
@Rebecca_The_Dragon
@Rebecca_The_Dragon Год назад
I personally prefer the DWS-6, its an amazing tire. Does flat spot a bit easily, but a great tire all round
@just.a.simplejoe
@just.a.simplejoe Год назад
I literally did what he recommended but earlier this year. Was doing PS4S on my miata and then this spring switched to ECSO2. I loved the old tires and could easily keep pace for a bit with a 200tw tire but the rain was always King. With the ECS02 I'm feeling just as good rain grip but slightly better hook up after numerous runs, aka endurance. Love both but I'll stick with conti for warranty and savings.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
:D Please stick a review on www.tire-reviews.com/submit.htm?match=Continental-ExtremeContact-Sport-02---Tire-Reviews-and-Tests
@just.a.simplejoe
@just.a.simplejoe Год назад
@tyrereviews hey thanks for the link - happily contributed my review. I love the work you do and have watched for quite a while. Excited to see more summer and 200tw comparisons!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
@@just.a.simplejoe Great reviews, really appreciated!
@sticky40sx71
@sticky40sx71 Год назад
I’ve been waiting for this review for a while! Ended up getting the Sport 02 for my ISF. Haven’t tracked it but for daily use, it’s excellent. Feels direct and has a decent sidewall stiffness. Not very loud and still enough to compliment the ISF suspension. I chose this because of Continentals warranty, longevity, and price. (400$ saving compared to 4s)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad you like it. Get a review on www.tire-reviews.com :D
@timw2083
@timw2083 Год назад
Good to hear... what did you have before the Contis. I plan to put the Sport 2 on my LC500. Yesterday I had some DWS 6+ put on my IS500 since it's my daily.
@twfinc6855
@twfinc6855 Год назад
@@timw2083 lexus guy.... i love the Lc500. Drove a IS500 recently.. bought a RX500h last week. I wish it had the V8 !! that would have been something if Lexus put the V8 in the RX500..
@AnontheGOAT
@AnontheGOAT Год назад
@@twfinc6855Get behind the wheel of a GSF. 😊
@bigjdm5460
@bigjdm5460 11 месяцев назад
@@AnontheGOATI drove a GSF and ended up with an is500
@juicemor1
@juicemor1 Год назад
I absolutely love your final verdict between ECS2 and CSC7, thats a decision maker. Thanks
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
What did you decide?
@juicemor1
@juicemor1 Год назад
@@tyrereviews I think I'll go for the ExtremeContact Sport 02, for daily and occasionally spirited drive, durability is one the biggest concern. I'd sacrifice maybe a little wet grip from CSC7 to trade 10k more miles on tyre life.
@lasercats9297
@lasercats9297 Год назад
@@tyrereviews I decided I didn't live in US so cant buy extreme contacts, but honestly I was so blown away by the SC7's in the previous review I went up a wheel size to be able to buy them later.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
@@juicemor1 Good choice, let me know how you find them!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
@@lasercats9297 They're an amazing tyre :)
@davidgonzalo4002
@davidgonzalo4002 Год назад
Patiently waiting for the Pilot Sport 4s vs Pilot Sport 5s... or maybe not so patiently hahaha Great video as always!!
@AZMTB
@AZMTB 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this. I've got a ZL1 1LE and have been looking for a set of "street" tires. I was mostly dead set on the Michelin's but I've been hearing lots of good things about the conti's.
@koreantaco7
@koreantaco7 Год назад
i would like to see a comparison between the sportcontact 7 vs extreme contact sport 02. also i would love to see a semi-slick comparison with the bridgestone potenza race
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
They're on the list :)
@charlesjames1442
@charlesjames1442 Год назад
I’ve had the Continental DWS 06 + for 2 years. I drove the ST through a 4 hour downpour in Wisconsin last week and was shocked by how stable the car was in the wet on these tires. 59 years of driving and these are the best.
@makimoko
@makimoko Год назад
We have the DWS06+ on the Sportwagen and are eeally happy with them. Plently of dry road performance, superb wet handling and no worrying at freezing temperatures! Hesitated between these and the EC02, but figured our use case did not justify summer UHP.
@entrrt
@entrrt 11 месяцев назад
I just switched to the to these Conti's a couple weeks ago replacing my PS4S'. So far the Conti's seem a lil' quieter but similar in performance(wet/dry). Time will tell how long the Conti's will hold up, my PS4S' ones lasted about 22K(2.5 yrs). Decided to try the Conti's since they were a good $400 LESS than the PS4S. (MK7.5 Golf R)
@seref2669
@seref2669 9 месяцев назад
Update?
@entrrt
@entrrt 9 месяцев назад
@@seref2669 so far so good. Comparable to the PS4s
@erik9108
@erik9108 Год назад
I've had the Conti ECS 01 tires on my '16 Golf R and E92 M3 and have nothing but great things to say about them. Stood up to a few HPDE sessions on the M3 and didn't look bad at all. Looking forward to trying out the 02 version.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
if you like the 01 you'll love the 02, I'm excited for you :)
@raispang6258
@raispang6258 Год назад
Never got the chance to experience PS4S (Pilot Super Sport, yes) but I am really happy and impressed with SC7. The wet and Braking performance was amazing, much better than my car's original fitment PZ4. It is really in a different league than the PZ4. The icing on the cake is the price, much cheaper than PS4S.
@w.c.3714
@w.c.3714 Год назад
Amazing review I am currently running the michelin's and looking at having to replace them soon. I am glad he did hit on a point that is important to me made me tilt back towards the michelins when I reorder. That sidewall protection for the rims and its slightly fatter look on the rims totally wins me over.
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 Год назад
Yeah sidewall protection for me is an essential (hope the wife doesn’t read this!) .
@phillippinoFLASH
@phillippinoFLASH Год назад
Perfect timing. Was looking for a new set of tires for my Camaro SS and was trying to decide if the PS4s were worth the extra money. Doesn't look like it! Thanks!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad I could help! Let me know how you like them?
@tigerishgrain6081
@tigerishgrain6081 Год назад
2:20 that's really interesting, it'd be really cool to seem more stuff about what technology and processes go into developing some of these tires
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Michelin keep their secret process very secret sadly
@TBagr
@TBagr 8 дней назад
I have 2 sets of wheels for my 24 C8 Z51 and have 1 set of these tires on each. Perfect ability to swap super fast.
@Nathan_King
@Nathan_King Год назад
You're not the first reviewer to talk about the dead on-center feel. That's a deal killer for me. I hate that feeling, and I'm very happy with the PS4Ss on my car right now.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Who else has? I'd love to see some other people talking about tires properly :)
@Nathan_King
@Nathan_King Год назад
@tyrereviews off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure it was tirerack. Your channel is definitely the first place I go to for comparisons, but I consider their input also. If you two don't agree on which tire is faster, I assume you're right and they're wrong, haha.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
@@Nathan_King ah that makes sense! Tire Rack are great, I know TJ and he's a great driver :)
@NikolayKadnikov
@NikolayKadnikov Год назад
In my opinion, there are no bad brands among the leaders of tire brands, they are all +/- good.
@lastpally
@lastpally Год назад
I have the continental's on my m340i. I prefer them over the michelin. The continental's seem to have better grip in the wet and road noise is quieter.
@GoFast865
@GoFast865 10 месяцев назад
As you mentioned, I prefer the linear feel of the contis. Love my extremecontact 02s
@DerpyDude777
@DerpyDude777 10 месяцев назад
I have the Conti Sport 02's on my 97 Civic Coupe on some RPF1s and man, they WORK! So grippy.
@Bhargav537
@Bhargav537 Год назад
And the one and only quality RU-vidr is back from his den ❤
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
😂
@sungkim742
@sungkim742 10 месяцев назад
I'll go will the cheaper tire since I will rarely reach the performance limits of these tires. I just care about grip to limit wheelspin and comfort.
@bulletprouf4
@bulletprouf4 Год назад
Been waiting for this comparison! I went with the Continentals last month due to the better price for my size (19in) and treadwear rating and am very satisfied with them. Thank you for a more in depth look!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad you enjoy them, get a review on www.tire-reviews.com sometime :)
@925-n5x
@925-n5x Год назад
Recently put the Continentals on my tt Mk1. Road use only. Definitely enjoy them.
@mastershredder2002
@mastershredder2002 Год назад
I have purchased 2 michelins and 2 continentals, thank you.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Michelnis on the left and Conti on the right? :D
@dkv674
@dkv674 3 месяца назад
I just ordered these continentals and got curious how good of a tire it was so I decided to watch some reviews on it. I can sleep good at night knowing I made a good purchase.
@makstod6903
@makstod6903 Год назад
Hi, just bought new Michelin tires with help from watching your videos. I was wondering if you could do a video on new tire care, should you clean them, wash them, how to drive etc. I don't believe there is a video like that on YT, and you are the tire guy so!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
there's one from covid times, thumbnail is me hugging a tyre. Most important thing is regular pressure checks, and a good dressing with UV blocker. I'll add it to my video list, thanks for the idea
@makstod6903
@makstod6903 Год назад
@@tyrereviews Thank you for honoring the comment, I will definitely check the video out, cheers!
@stefandanalexandru9401
@stefandanalexandru9401 Год назад
I have the sc7 on my bmw e63 from 1+ year now I’ve done 16000 km and the rear look at half life the fronts are like new and i love the grip amd security it gives. Rode them all the winter and they were superb even below 0’C, not to mention that I’ve never felt so much confidence even in the rain they feel like they are glued to the road. I’ve all ready bought another set cause i love them so much.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I've never tried them in the cold so that's good info!
@stefandanalexandru9401
@stefandanalexandru9401 Год назад
@@tyrereviews I can ensure they are really a one of a kind at low temp. I've never felt so much grip in a winter tyre (michel winter pilot and lots of other w.tyres that I tried) in the cold and a bit of ice here and there the car skid all over the place, lacked any kind of confidence and even at 60km/h it just hydroplaned like crazy on any small rain (that was happening even on s.tyre during summer). Since i had the sport contact 7 I've never had these problems and the car has always this strange really comfortable feeling that it can get you out of any situation, that is why I let them all winter and it was so great so much more confidence, direction and grip even on casual ice you feel this strange small tyre slip but so controllable and so grippy at same time. (I think it makes some micro slips caused from my car weight but the compound of tyre it's so soft that it manages to get grip) Similar situation (slight rainy day, 6-7°C, similar year period, same road same corner 1 year apart) with the winter tyres the car hit a major hydroplane from the back at 60km/h, (got lucky didn't end up in the ditch) with the sc7 it just pushed trough no effort at 80km/h like not even thinking about it😀
@kylebarnhart7855
@kylebarnhart7855 Год назад
I have had the 02 on my Cayman S (235/35R19 265/35R19) since end of April. I got it because it was cheaper and newer in Canada, at least at the time. It's been very good.
@JaideepVaidya22
@JaideepVaidya22 Год назад
My Kia Stinger AWD came fittted with PS4Ss from the dealer when I bought the car. 30K miles later, I got the Conti's from Tire-Rack for about $400~ cheaper than a new staggered set of PS4Ss. They come about 95% of what the Michilens do. I litereally chuck the car into conrners and it has grip for days; fantastic wet and dry grip. Have about 12k miles on them so far, which about 7k have been hwy, car stays planted. Tire noise is a touch above the michelins as well as fuel economy dropped by an avg of 2.5/4 mpg (hwy/city), but that could just be because of now having more miles on the car. Good set of tires the CONTIs. Go for them if you can find them in your size and price range. (Y)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad you like them :)
@E.T.GARAGE
@E.T.GARAGE Год назад
I have had Cooper RS3, Continentals, Uniroyal, and the 4S on my the C4 Corvette and 4S are so far the best.
@perpetualgrin5804
@perpetualgrin5804 Год назад
I'm happy with my Maxxis HP5 tyres, still going at 35k km.
@paulh373
@paulh373 Год назад
Glad this video came up. Right now my ATS-V is on the 4s and was thinking about changing to the sport 02’s
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
let me know how you find them!
@lf4_greg
@lf4_greg Год назад
I’m moving to a set of BC Forged wheels on my CT4 Blackwing and will be going with the Continentals so I can fit 305’s in the rear with less chance of rubbing. Plus they’re around $250+ cheaper for the set. I don’t know if the PS4S is $250 better.
@phillm156
@phillm156 Год назад
I’ve always been happy with Continental tires. Sporty but always comfortable to live with (sport contact 6)Michelin is more edgy, sharper (supersports) but not as quiet.
@HD.Motorsports
@HD.Motorsports 10 месяцев назад
I got the first gen extreme contact sport for my bmw e28 on a close out deal for $600 and I am very pleased with how quiet they are and overall performance.
@acerimmer8338
@acerimmer8338 Год назад
Hey, UMC is my home track! Live in SLC and it's a wonderful facility. Tracked my cars and have done things like Boss Track Attack and Ford Performance School there as well. Really hope it survives as they've (the owners are Geely now) really scaled back on events here. Cancelled all professional races, which is never a good sign, torn down half the bleachers and not renewed contracts w/ many manufacturers- like Ford, for their schools. It's really bummed me out. Anyways, glad the Continental wears better now. Had the Continental EC on my GTI at UMC and tons of scrub after 7/10ths driving. Doesn't help that UMC is hell for passenger side front tires, especially the shorter (east??) circuit. Anyways, awesome review as always!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I'm in Taylorsville now so maybe see you at the track!
@Zoonie81
@Zoonie81 Год назад
I like before I watch these videos. Love it!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad you like them!
@jesterlead
@jesterlead Год назад
I've owned lots of supercars and have had nearly every type of performance tires, and at this point, I only put Michelins on my cars. Their overall performance, wear, ride, noise is significantly superior to every brand I've tried. Had PS 4S on my M5 Comp most recently.
@kleroooo
@kleroooo Год назад
what about the non S PS4. Did you try those?
@jesterlead
@jesterlead Год назад
@@kleroooo Yes, had PS4's on my Cayenne Turbo most recently last year. I had also tried the lower priced Latitude's as well on the Cayenne, but definitely didn't perform as well as the PS4's.
@wafflesnfalafel1
@wafflesnfalafel1 Год назад
Super vid - I've had both that Michelin and the prior gen Conti. I don't do any track time and I admit I am a Michelin guy. I really did like the Conti's but the set I had ended up with two that were slightly out of round and wouldn't balance well. I have not had that issue with any set of Michelins I've had and have a set of the Pilot Sport 4S on my WRX currently. Additionally, I prefer both to the original Dunlops that came on the car which while were fine in dry conditions were poor in any wet conditions.
@goredknight3017
@goredknight3017 3 месяца назад
Sorry that I have missed some of the old videos. On my VW Passat estate tdi 2003 estate I have tried 3x different bands and some ate some brands up in hardly any time, but the Continental just work so well in all weathers & and worked out cheaper because they lasted longer on the every day driver. Now need new tyres for the wife’s new VW Golf tdi and will most likely stick to Continental. I use two tyre companies, but one of them is the garage that takes on all the contracting needs for VW/AUDI/SKODA. Surprised that the tyre’s need to be mounted in a certain way especially the continental’s. Nice video again & thanks
@rev68
@rev68 Год назад
Awesome review, Thank you. The only way this video could have been more relevant to me is if you'd tested it on either the Mustang Mach 1 or an E46 M3.
@Peylix
@Peylix Год назад
I love both, but favor the Conti's more. I do not track my car, but I do Touge and daily drive the car in the PNW. I've found The Sport 02's offer the best all around performance. Especially in the wet. I'm eagerly waiting for the PSS5 though. Hopefully Michelin gets the butts in gear and launches them outside OE only. Because while I love the Sport 02's, the 4S have been around for much longer and have offered what the 02's offer now. So the PSS5 are going to be huge.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Get a review on www.tire-reviews.com/submit.htm?match=Continental-ExtremeContact-Sport-02---Tire-Reviews-and-Tests if you get the time :)
@skynetsworld
@skynetsworld Год назад
Thank you for adding tread and weight information. This is also interesting.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@skynetsworld
@skynetsworld Год назад
@@tyrereviews btw: Would you recommend one of those two tires or rather the Michelin Sport Cup2 for ambitioned road driving?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
@@skynetsworld if you don't use it daily or get any wet, I'd still take the cup 2
@skynetsworld
@skynetsworld Год назад
@@tyrereviews Thank you. 🙂👍
@TheAngryDuckman
@TheAngryDuckman Год назад
Welcome to Utah. UMC is my second home. Come by during the next NASA Utah event at the end of July. There will be a 6hr endurance race on Saturday.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I need to work out how to get into one of those races, I used to love endurance racing in the uk!
@Zedaine7
@Zedaine7 Год назад
Welcome to Utah! I'm hoping to get some track time on my 2018 Honda Civic Htachback late this year or next year and I have been contemplating which tires to get for track use since I doubt my daily driven DWS 06+ will be up to the task. Great review as usual!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Someone was there in a Cayman on the DWS06+ having a lot of fun!
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute Год назад
Back 10+ years ago, I adored the Pilot Super Sport but also tried the Continental ContiExtremeContact DW and it was a terrible tire; squidgy sidewall feel, mediocre wet performance, way too prone to aquaplaning even with full tread. The dry grip seemed good but the sidewall was so flimsy driving the car hard felt like driving hard on a flat tire. Nowadays though, I agree with your "Steer twice" complaint with the michelins; they feel technically excellent but disconnected for the driver. I had Conti ECSs on my Miata until recently and while they did lack feedback immediately off-center as you say, their honest feel through the rest of the steering angles made me really like them. Also a huge step in wet performance based on those old Contis. After being a big Michelin stan for ages, I'd be tempted to pick the Conti over the Michelin these days (though a Goodyear might pip them both...)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Glad we seem to agree on things :)
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute Год назад
@@tyrereviews More like I'm glad I agree with you! You're good at this tire/tyre stuff! 👍
@bigwilliearmitage
@bigwilliearmitage 3 месяца назад
I had the PSS on my Miata and immediately understood the "steer twice" thing. I never really thought about it until mentioned in this review, but it was definitely a thing. I'll be OK with a slightly less twitchy initial off-center response if overall grip is the same. Waiting to have ECS02s mounted. We'll see.
@OmegaTigerX
@OmegaTigerX Год назад
Did some research before buying for my accord 2.0T, alot of people complained about the 4S being to soft with the sidewall on road imperfections and easily getting bubbles on low mileage compared to the continental.
@zd141
@zd141 Год назад
what's the difference between the sport contact, extreme contact and ultra contact ?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Sport is eu, extreme is us, ultra is Asia and now low rolling resistance touring
@waynegood9233
@waynegood9233 Год назад
I had a Michelin Pilot on my 2014 Corvette when it was new !!!! A run flat tire and terrible in the rain and a very rough noisy tire !! I went to Continental Extreme Contact non run flat a lot smoother and great in the rain Now it is my tire right now with the 2nd set on my 9 year old car
@sirbobbinhood
@sirbobbinhood Год назад
If you ever have the chance it would be very interesting to see a comparison between these 2 tires and some of the super 200TW tires, Yokohama AO52, Bridgestone RE71RS, in some cold and wet weather. For autocross there's always a discussion on what tire is better when it's both cold, at or below the minimum operating temperature of the super 200's and wet whether a UHP or autocross specific tire is better.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
That would be super interesting. Controlling the weather is hard but I'll see what I can do later this year.
@hksp
@hksp Год назад
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@honestreviewer3283
@honestreviewer3283 9 месяцев назад
Appreciate this. I had the Michelins on my 2005 MINI and they're awesome, but apparently they are all out for the year and my retailer suggested the Continentals. So I've got the Contis coming, and we'll see. If there's an edge on road comfort and noise and the handling is virtually the same, I'll switch for good. I'm running 205/45r17.
@davidl2050
@davidl2050 Год назад
Interesting, as my experience with the ECS 01 vs PS4s was that the ECS only lasted around 60% of the PS4s in the canyons, and was more sloppy, so it looks like they’ve improved it a lot in the second version
@Driving_Somewhere
@Driving_Somewhere 10 месяцев назад
Greetings from Singapore! Thanks for clarifying that ExtremeContact Sport 02 isn't available in Europe - I can't find it in Singapore either. Always assumed it was a grade above the Sport Contact 7 due to the word "Extreme". But I guess the treadwear of 340 and 240 respectively says it all....
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 10 месяцев назад
The SC7 is the slightly faster tyre, doesn't last as long though
@PM-vp3dy
@PM-vp3dy 5 месяцев назад
Great segment! Excellent analysis & insights! Tough choice, but think I'll stick with the PS4S. What sold me was the mounted tread width. That little bit of rim hangover has saved my butt on a couple of occasions from some nasty curb rash. Thank you for the review!
@AB-80X
@AB-80X Год назад
I have tested the Sport Contact 7 on my F8 on track. It is absolutely brilliant. Much more durable than the 4S as it does not have the overheating tendencies and it does not have the rolling sidewalls. You need to give it a try on a proper RWD sports car, it is a tyre for Michelin to be properly worried about here in Europe. I will say this. The Contact 7 comes in two varieties. One is a regular type, and one is targeted towards EV. That said, the rears I have on the F8 are the EV rated boots. Yet they still outperform the 4S all across the board and are extremely well balanced with the non-EV fronts - car feels neutral and balanced. Even on cold roads, on my Dragy, the 0-100 km/h times are consistently 0.12 seconds lower during a launch on the 7's. My guess is that they are more of a flagship tyre for Conti than the Extreme 2, so I'd guess that this in part means they have put more effort into the 7's.
@RedC63AMG
@RedC63AMG Год назад
Just received a set of Sport 02’s for our Q3 but before we could mount them someone cancelled on a just arrived RS3. Needless to say we won’t be getting much time on the new Conti’s
@kleroooo
@kleroooo Год назад
Superb level of details and thoroughnes, mind blown again. It's almost funny, that the old PS4S, the GOAT, is still not defeated. 6 years passed, which is a long time. But still no new tire which just beats it in every aspect. Or have the same advantages without the same cons. Maybe the SC7 could be considered better, or the Assy6 , but still not a nobrainer. (and in its own UUHP league it was always the comfy, dull one, and no difference there :D)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I expect the goat has had a few silent midlife updates but yes I agree it's amazing it's still going
@TodayzTomSawyer
@TodayzTomSawyer Год назад
Hey Continental! If you're listening, please consider making a 305/35/19! There is not a huge selection of this tire size.
@jaybyme
@jaybyme Год назад
Love the new add of the tyre spec sheet.
@doorkicker8507
@doorkicker8507 Год назад
I just purchased the 4S for my 2020 G70 AWD. I love these tires especially in the rain. It grips amazing. Looking forward to see how the do in the snow in Chicago.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
They'll do incredibly badly in snow lol
@shhhpark
@shhhpark 2 месяца назад
Been on runflats for almost a decade with BMWs. Just put in an order for PS4s and I'm so excited! The PS4s have gone up in price over the year to about 300 though which stinks
@kiritowow2736
@kiritowow2736 Год назад
one thing I have to say those 300 tw tire heat cycle out so fast... they can only last for like 2 track days I will say? and there is no grip at all on the third track days after 2 hot lap,
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 Год назад
I wanted to see how they take heat on track. I have been waiting for S5 but if my ps 4 wears out I might have to jump on one of these two. I am a fan of your track driving and really want to see you driving Toyota GR86 for a test. I hope Toyota lets you borrow one.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
I was actually considering buying a GR86 as a test car as I really like the idea of them, but I'm worried I'd end up wanting a little more power, especially with the sticky stuff.
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 Год назад
@@tyrereviews You might or you might not, it's a nice underpowered car that handles very well on track, it's meant to have fun. That's why I am avoiding sticky stuff. Do try getting press car from Toyota if you could, would be nice to see it in review of UUHP tires.
@arielatom300heps
@arielatom300heps Год назад
@@tyrereviews Please test some tyres on a GR86… I’d love to hear what’s best for track days… and then another test for the best all round tyre for everyday driving 😎
@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO
@UhhhhhnooOOo00oO Год назад
Great review. The Michelin is old. I've had it for quite some time and the A/S 4. Continental is German for my German cars but, I usually go only with the French (Michelin and their stars for restaurants.) I think it's time to try a Continental. They have always been a bit softer and more catered to sport in my opinion. They have advanced immeasurably in the last 5 years. Still, the S5 Michelin looms in the shadows.
@DraganSavic85
@DraganSavic85 Год назад
Amazing review with so much information, just brilliant, as always 👍👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Thanks :D
@mikelanglois4737
@mikelanglois4737 5 месяцев назад
On my Mustang GT, I started with OEM Perrelli P-Zeros, followed by Michelin Pilots and then Continental ControlContact Sport SRS+, which I just put on yesterday. In the short drive home from the tire shop, which included freeway time at high speed, the Continental's performance was excellent, but time will be the ultimate judge. I'm crossing my fingers. By the way, I liked the Perrelli's better than the Michelin's, which I know is atypical.
@singular9
@singular9 Год назад
Use Michelin's for a long time until I tried my first continentals. Never going back. What sucks is michelin has like 5 plants near me....and we get discounts/lower pricing...so...yeah
@dalewhitney5082
@dalewhitney5082 9 месяцев назад
Nice review. All tire reviews, especially summers, always have track time. If I were testing Id spend as much time on the track as I could because it's fun. But in the real world we also drive on summers at the low point of their temperature range - in the cold rain. Do you have any insights on how these summers perform at 40 degrees in the wet?
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